So ... do you put a filter on the front of your lens?
Maybe you should try shooting through a condom?
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PIXSurgeon
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...You are joking, right? I would rather have SEAL's success, EVER and FOREVER than anything of what these lost souls may ever reach...
Also, I would definitely keep blood INSIDE my body/veins/arteries rather than OUTSIDE. Life can't get simpler and better than this (believe me). Also, I am willing to bet that my blood-inside-your-body-and-not-outside proposition is going to be backed by 99% of the audience.
Want to try? Why don't we open a new thread and ask the folks?
I challenge you, NOW.
bitjunkie
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The artist depicted in your daughter's photo from last weekend's Austin City Limits festivalis Ben Kweller. He burst a blood vessel - Austin is the allergy capitol of the South West.
After trying to tough it out for quite a while he was still bleeding so badly that he had to stop the performance and seek medical attention.
His apologies were almost as profuse as his bleeding.
My wife and I were there and I can assure you it was a real medical issue and not a stage stunt - unlike the next day's satire of the incident on stage 'performed' by "The Flaming Lips" who's lead singer poured fake blood on himself during his act in a 'tribute' to the first performer.
I found "The Flaming Lips" set to be a ridiculous farce, but the bleeding incident the previous day was quite a cause for concern and luckily Ben Kweller got medical help.
The temperature was 100 degrees in the blazing Austin sun that day and the extremely high humidity didnt help the situation.
FYI
After trying to tough it out for quite a while he was still bleeding so badly that he had to stop the performance and seek medical attention.
His apologies were almost as profuse as his bleeding.
My wife and I were there and I can assure you it was a real medical issue and not a stage stunt - unlike the next day's satire of the incident on stage 'performed' by "The Flaming Lips" who's lead singer poured fake blood on himself during his act in a 'tribute' to the first performer.
I found "The Flaming Lips" set to be a ridiculous farce, but the bleeding incident the previous day was quite a cause for concern and luckily Ben Kweller got medical help.
The temperature was 100 degrees in the blazing Austin sun that day and the extremely high humidity didnt help the situation.
FYI
Mark Smith145430
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I saw a gig in my home city, by the Manic Street Preachers and it was a whole lot worse than this (in fact the incident I say is infamous as the lead singer ended up in hospital)
But lets be honest, there's nothing depicted in these shots that hasn't been seen before countless times. Maybe I am desensitised, but the point is if the actual event was that bad these images don't communicate that.
sorry
Mark
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rebel without a clue
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Right. Understandable, given the subject matter.
Once again, I have to say "great job".
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Once again, I have to say "great job".
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rebel without a clue
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I am society.
I have a desperate need to learn everything about the human condition.
Yes, even those nasty things mostly hidden away in all of us.
F* k censorship. Everyone should be allowed to express themselves however they want so long as it doesn't harm anyone else.
If the subject matter deals with any of the wide variations and experiences in life (be it a photo or a song), give it to me.
Who are you to deny me?
(I don't mean to offend, I just feel strongly about this point and want to encourage you to THINK.)
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Stu.
I have a desperate need to learn everything about the human condition.
Yes, even those nasty things mostly hidden away in all of us.
F* k censorship. Everyone should be allowed to express themselves however they want so long as it doesn't harm anyone else.
If the subject matter deals with any of the wide variations and experiences in life (be it a photo or a song), give it to me.
Who are you to deny me?
(I don't mean to offend, I just feel strongly about this point and want to encourage you to THINK.)
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Stu.
Petteri Sulonen
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...do you feel the measure of artistic excellence is the size of the public that finds it appealing?
Petteri
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rebel without a clue
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you are bad Petteri.
But only because you make a valid point.
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Stu.
But only because you make a valid point.
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PIXSurgeon
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...THIS is how I measure it the degree of "SANITY" (not artistic excellence, which you probably got "confuzed" about, somewhere in the discussion):
...Assume your four-years old stumbles accross an image like this, and starts browsing the whole collection, and looks at the blood, the scratches, etc., and suddenly you realize (because you did not know) that he is looking at them...
My question to you: What would be your first, natural reaction? What would you do? The answer to this question will reveal your true value-system, your core-fabric...
I am ANXIOUSLY awaiting for you, Petteri, and anyone else around here, to answer this question. All you need to be is HONEST and TRANSPARENT, regardless of your answer.
Choose your "path"...
...Assume your four-years old stumbles accross an image like this, and starts browsing the whole collection, and looks at the blood, the scratches, etc., and suddenly you realize (because you did not know) that he is looking at them...
My question to you: What would be your first, natural reaction? What would you do? The answer to this question will reveal your true value-system, your core-fabric...
I am ANXIOUSLY awaiting for you, Petteri, and anyone else around here, to answer this question. All you need to be is HONEST and TRANSPARENT, regardless of your answer.
Choose your "path"...
PIXSurgeon
Veteran Member
...to expect (or event want me) to "forgive" this "spit-through-an-as*-hole" garbage, and accept it as "uncensored" freedom? WHO are you?
..Absolutely agree with you... But, boy, you REALLY need to think, hollistically and constructively . And as soon as you embrace those principles, believe me, it will be SO easy to get the record straight...
Happy shooting!
How ironic.
Seal is a fine singer. I have all his albums. Certainly easy listening. But he never does tell people how he got those scars on his face. Just claims he woke up one morning and they were just there.
I've listened to Dir En Grey. Don't think they're a bad group at all of their kind. The lead singer has a suprisingly strong ballad voice.
They do NOT want to be easy listening.
And their act is certainly intense.
I saw a documentary a while ago about a guy who nailed his ***** to a board. In close-up. Women fainted in the cinema watching it. I thought it was prety heavy going. But by the end of the movie I understood his point completely. Not everything has to be easy.
Kyo is a much-loved singer by many in Japan. Amazingly the group even managed to perform in Shanghai. Their "family values" ain't yours. The whole point of the tour title.
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Small children are exposed to much more graphic and realistic blood and violence on T.V. than these few still photos depict. I doubt if these photos would have any effect on a 4-year old, because the child probably wouldn't realize what he's looking at. Some bloody scratches. Big deal.
My "path" would be not to let my four year old @rse around on the computer.My question to you: What would be your first, natural reaction?
What would you do? The answer to this question will reveal your
true value-system, your core-fabric...
Choose your "path"...
We do not censor adult expression for the sake of four year old children.
We do not take them to porno movies either. I still feel adults should have every freedom to decide for themselves.
If this stuff really depraved, who' be more depraved by than the censors?
Gary
Why the hypocritical asterisks? You letting others censor your expression?
Try typing the word in a post here and you'll find out.
Petteri Sulonen
Forum Pro
So, are you of the opinion that only "sane" art deserves to be shown?
First off, what would the hypothetical four-year-old be doing browsing the Net without adult supervision to start with?
Second, my reaction would depend on the reaction of the four-years-old, of course. Most four-years-olds I know are naturally curious and not at all easily shocked by stuff they come across, unless the shocks are directed at them personally. That is, if you yell "BOO!" at them really loud, they're liable to start crying, but if they come across, say, fresh roadkill, they're liable to be more curious than alarmed. If the kid's reaction was curiosity and s/he started asking questions about what's going on, I would try to answer those questions to the best of my ability in such a way that the kid will understand the answers. For example:
"Is that blood on his face?"
"Yep."
"Why is he bleeding? Did someone hurt him?"
"No, I think he hurt himself."
"Why did he hurt himself?"
"I'm not sure. It could be he's sad or angry and wants everyone to see how sad or angry he is. Maybe he feels that hurting himself is the best way to show everyone how sad or angry he is. Sort of like you do sometimes when you're angry and throw yourself on the floor and scream and beat it with your fists."
"But I don't bleed!"
"No, and it's a good thing too. You shouldn't hurt yourself so bad you bleed."
And so on. You get the picture?
I hope this helps.I am ANXIOUSLY awaiting for you, Petteri, and anyone else around
here, to answer this question. All you need to be is HONEST and
TRANSPARENT, regardless of your answer.
Choose your "path"...
Petteri
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DA*n. I thought it was "fack".
Probably looking for games to play or funny cartoons.
Yes, a good picture. Not bad for somebody who's (apparently) never lived with a 4-year old child.
Sh*cks, you can write "darn".
Now we're getting near the dangerous edge.
Maybe he means "fock".
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