D60 - not rumor!!!

Started Dec 31, 2001 | Discussions thread
Larry H. Smith Veteran Member • Posts: 6,270
In Defense of Peter G.

Peter S.,

I am bothering to make some observations, because you have made what I consider an unwarranted personal attack on peter G. (whom I do not know), and I think it deserves a response.

I am aware that Mike Greer has done so, and well, but I have some things to add (I am also aware that you acknowledged M.G.'s post, but a few things went unremarked, IMHO):

Peter Stewart wrote:

Peter, I take you to task for your posting about the D60. It seems
that some people, like little kids, just can't take privileged
information and keep it to themselves. They must be the FIRST to

NOT the first, ...the "trainer" was the first. And, like Mike said, made NO accompanying request for confidentiality.

It's an all too human failing to be sure but it too often creates a
lot of hurt. I fear it's possible here.

What the man you refer to as your personal teacher, etc. said, I
must admit, was out of line. He made a terrible mistake. He should
not have let the genie out of the bottle, and for that he must be
and I fear, will be, held accountable.

P.G. said nothing to judge/characterize the trainer's action. YOU do, quite negatively, calling it "a terrible mistake" for which "he must be held accountable".

But, what bothers me every bit as much is how you ran screaming
here to tell everyone about it. One of the reasons it bothers me is
how you have portrayed your position in this and declared a few
words in a post as a Public Proclamation confirming an impending
release. It IS NO SUCH THING!!!! Canon itself has not released a
flipping thing.

Is there something about the word "impending" (YOUR word) that you don't understand? It implies "not yet", ...exactly as you did, in the sentence which followed.

I am a close personal friend of the man you call your personal
photography trainer. I asked him about it this morning. His reply:
"What a joke."

If "the man" said this to you, did he say it intending for you to post it worldwide?

You participate in an online teaching forum; this
does NOT make you a special pupil of a very special man.

I didn't hear P.G. say he was a special-student, ...I DID hear him say the teacher was a special man. Hardly a disservice! (?)

At this point in time I feel I'm as close to this man as any, and I
see him on a regular basis. At times, when I have a specific
problem or question he will take the time to give me of his wisdom
but I know him to be extremely busy and hard working despite a very
advanced age and has little time for personal tutoring. He has NO
personal students!!!

Please, for the sake of your ego (and what you feel is confirmation
of your importance, and therefore, credibility) stop telling people
you have a special relationship that gives you an inside track.

Why does this sound so much like "He's not YOUR special-friend, ...He's MY special friend!"?

And why did you "Name-drop" the teachers name in your reply to M.G. (FIRST-name, we duly note, since YOU are so close. )

Some have been careful to "protect" the source's anonymity, IN-CASE he might prefer it (for reasons P.G. gave), ...you apparantly have no-such concerns for your "close personal friend" .

Again, I wish to make it absolutely clear that what was said by him
in his forum was a mistake. He is the one ultimately responsible
for this, not you, and as I already said, I fear he might pay a
terrible price himself.

Shouldn't/couldn't the teacher apologize for his own "mistake", if in-fact it WAS one? Or has he authorized you to speak-for-him?

You just furthered it because the word will spread quickly as a

Absolutely-to-be-expected when anything is posted ON THE INTERNET (Hello?).

And to no good end.

The "end"? Sharing, with others who would like to know, ..the reason-for the existence of these forums. Many of us consider thai "good".

... xcept perhaps, the feeling of
importance you have for being the first to tell everyone. I guess
that's pretty important, eh?

I'd like to mention that, as a result of my friendship with him

(WE know, ...we know, ...he's YOUR friend!)

I had the opportunity to personally handle and fire off quite a few
frames with a 1D a fair time before it's introduction.

I never said a word to anyone in the world about it.

That's nice, if you were ASKED to keep it confidential.

I know it's going to be real hard not to take this personally; I
think I would. But, for one of the rare times I ever write anything
in these forums, I needed to comment on this.

"Needed" is the active word!

Peter Stewart

A final note: After beginning your reply to M.G. with mention of avoiding "nit-picking",etc., you end with a "pick" at his writing-style, ...which, incidentally, I didn't find "confusing" at all.

There's some transparency here, ...and it's not the "film" kind.
All-in-all, maybe one of those 'better-left-unsaid" posts.

Now about that new "D60" ...


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