A hazy evening.

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I'd print that one really big if I were you.
 
quantity of PP to disguise the basic problem (a hazy, dull evening).

Which is why I wasn't too sure about it, but it seems to be passing muster here, so I'll let it run on flickr and see what happens :-)

Basaically, the cliffs look soft because of the haze, so they've been sharpened (hello artifacts), and the sky was a murly orange / grey / blue, so the colour temp has been raised on it and the vibrange boosted to give an orange glow. That's fine, but of course the sea, like that, is a horrible murk, so the colour temperature on that has been LOWERED to keep a pleasing colour, and the forground lightened for drama.

Toroble is, that raises in the viewer's mind:

1) What are those things on the cliff and why is it soft?

2) How is the sky orange when the sea is blue and, if that is an orange sunset, how come the FRONT of the rock "castle" is lit?
3) Where is the light coming from to light the foreground?

And the only answer I have is I drove a very long way, much of it on semi-passable dusty tracks, so I'm coming back with a picture even if I have to create it myself...

So, cheers, but that is MORE than enough PP :-)

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Great shot.

I guess you have your own style which is - IMO - pretty rare: I knew it was your picture before actually looking at the name of the poster.

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Man are you livin' the life, you have posted some great beach scene's lately. For me what makes this one is the tonality and I don't think the cliffs or anything else in a shot/this shot has to be razor sharp, it wasn't when you saw it....

Sometimes just the beauty of the scene makes it work and that's the case here...the haze probably had an effect on the beautiful light.

Cheers,

Bill

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Bill Wallace
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I've been meaning to ask you this for some time but, at my advanced age, I sometimes forget! ;-)

Most, if not all, of your images have a tonality to them that I'm trying to get a grip on. If you don't mind, would you explain your basic PP technique? If not, I'll understand. BTW, I usually like what you've done and this is no exception.
Perhaps it's just a Portugese thing???

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Bill
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Fantastic PP with your workmanship, almost like a trademark.

Thank you for sharing!

Respectful,
StanJR
 
We start the same way, but you, as I understand it, use the fill light, and I make multiple 16bit tiffs, paste them on top of each other one at a time, and mask them, either filling in with the brusn, or using the gradient tool.

That shot started grey, hazy and murky with a redeeming touch of orange in the sky.

So I took the image and pushed the clour temp right up (to change the tone to orange) and then hammered the vibrance. That gave me the orange sky. I don't normally fake stuff this blatantly, but here I had a really dramatic shot spoiled by the weather, so I had no choice.

Then I created a second version, this time with the colour temp pushed down, to give me the sea.

I pasted the sea version over the sky version, picked quick mask, and used the gradient tool fade out the sea version at the top, so the sky stayed orange.

Then I created an over exposed version of the sea shot, pasted it over the top again, and masked the water this side of the wave before deleting the rest. Then I deleted the overexposed foam to get the detail back from the darker layer below.

Finally, in an attempt to shapen up trhe hazy, dark cliffs, I created a seriosuly over exposed image vith the contrast psuhed to the max, pasted it over the top, masked the cliff, deleted, reduced the opcaity, and ran smart sharpen over it.

I don't like this shot - it has gone beyond enhanced to being a blatant fake IMHO. It is a good example of how far I can push my technique though :-)

I'm one of those people who can't draw a straight line with a ruler, so it is all technique, not skill. The secrets seem to be big, bold strokes, and keeping any joins in the dark, not the light parts.

Another thing - I really disliked the original, but now I look at it, maye I like it beter than the fake. Here's the original, untouched...

Which do you prefer?



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Light it up a bit with a touch of more contrast, & a bit more exposure…thats it…

I like the feeling in there…

The 'fake' is a fake with no soul in it……sorry…

eMikael
 
An excellent tut. Thanks.

Unlike the previous poster, I prefer the "faked" version for a couple of reasons which I'll get to in a minute.

The 2nd version, "original" that you posted, has a great amount of potential and could probably be made in to a very nice, technically good, image but...

would lack YOUR vision. See my post here: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=19714403

The images that you post can be reaily identified as "Louis Dobson" images merely by viewing them. I'd thought for a while, and you rebuked that thought, that you used Photomatix for toning. This image, the "faked" one, is representative of your vision and represents what YOU saw when you made it.
Kudos for a very nice representation of what you saw when you made the image.

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The 2nd version, "original" that you posted, has a great amount of
potential and could probably be made in to a very nice, technically
good, image but...
would lack YOUR vision. >
Sorry Bill. but after downloading both and open up in PhShop, I dont agree…

The great atmosphere of the original (and that is for me the magic here)

seems to be lost after a lot of work…very good technically done, but not interesting…
Result is nice, but boring…

The magic is made with the Camera shot, not with PhotoShop…
PhotosShop is a great Tool…nothing else…

The more I look at the original, the more I like it…honestly…
The lightning in the middle part is just great.
Try zoom out, and u see what I mean…

eMikael
 

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