Todd Meyers
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Have you guys seen these G2 Photos....
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ZipperZ63395
Active member
your better believe it, he'll probably take BETTER pictures if he used a 707...lol
a "good" hockey player is still a good hockey player...no matter what hockey stick he uses
can you say...p h o t o s h o p
again, can you say...p h o t o s h o p
let me guess...p h o t o s h o p...yup
people have got to stop going googly eyed over heavily photoshopped/unsharp masked photos on sites like this.
lets see them raw at full size and you'll see the only difference between the 2 cameras is...umm....ours is better.
the only thing he's got over you and me is the 3rd cyclops eye of his that assists him in superb composition.
or creative cropping...lol
BryanS
Veteran Member
No, but I can say "full of it," which is what you are if you think the difference here is something Photoshop contributes.
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Robert Holloway
Veteran Member
Todd
get your point
But I just bought a "computer" 3 months ago
That's the real point here
Rob
get your point
But I just bought a "computer" 3 months ago
That's the real point here
Rob
BryanS
Veteran Member
This argument would hold up if you weren't in the Canon forum from the launch of the G2 several weeks ago onward. There were jaw-dropping photos instantly.
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Ron Parr
Guest
I didn't want to bring this up b/c I didn't want to start slinging mud, but I've been checking in with the Canon forum regularly and have been very disappointed with the quality of images we've been seeing straight from the camera. I've downloaded many and tried tweaking them. The colors look really great. The level of detail is disappointing and white spots are numerous and weird.
If your point is that the average Canon user is better a postprocessing than the average Sony user, then I totally agree.
Ron Parr
If your point is that the average Canon user is better a postprocessing than the average Sony user, then I totally agree.
Ron Parr
BryanS
Veteran Member
Ron, I'm not going to argue this here... I did that once, and never again.
However, the images straight from my camera have been the best I've seen, and the supposed "white spots" are figments of other-brand-supporters' imaginations.
Heck, from what I've seen, I might agree with that. Perhaps on average they're better photographers, too?
Bryan
Perry
Leading Member
I am a little suspecious that photoshop may be involved in some of those images. THe colors in some of the sunsets look a little too surreal. Do we know for a fact that they were not extensively retouched. Also he used RAW mode in most that I looked at. THe in camera image enhancements may be responsible for some of the problems the G2 has had.
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Ron Parr
Guest
Hmmm... In the interest of amity, I'll avoid a discussion of the white spot question.
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BryanS
Veteran Member
Good idea. Truce.Hmmm... In the interest of amity, I'll avoid a discussion of the
white spot question.
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HelenPB
Guest
How frustrating! I've been trying for two days to access the site, both thru the link and Internet Explorer, but all my attempts have failed. Looks like I'm the only person having this problem.
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ZipperZ63395
Active member
-heres what you said orignally as referring to this site: http://medlem.tripodnet.nu/singo/g2/
Yes, but would the pictures have been as good with the Sony F707?
Did you notice that shot of the boat in the dock that was heavily backlit... and no purple fringing?
How about that red boat (or any of the reds, for that matter)?
The heavily lit green leaves against the dark house?
I haven't gotten my F707 yet and only have the samples I've been seeing from others to judge against the many shots I've seen so far from the G2. However, I can't help but wonder why we're not seeing at least an occasional stunning shot like these here.
Bryan
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i said yes, and absolutely.
Yes...this photographer can take the same pics or better with the 707 and most of the pics if not all had some cleaning up thru photoshop or other program.
Your denile that this exist is just a lack of understanding the processes involved.
I use photoshop. And not just for improving photos but for the graphic arts job that i do.
Im not an expert but i can recognize photos that have been adjusted.
Your comment to not seeing stunning shots like those have already been posted by another 707 user here.
Look up "SDommin", he's posted quite a few pictures already(cat, outdoor fall colors) im sure youve seen them.
Everyone has complimented him on those pictures including myself. They are beautiful and compositions are superb.
But,(heres my eye again), i recognize the pictures are not "raw"
And "raw" as meaning... shutter... pic... to memory stick....to...photo album upload....to your monitor.
So i asked Scott(SDommin) if pics have been photoshopped and he was honest to acknowledge that they were.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&page=1&message=1616026
Now back to the photos involved.... http://medlem.tripodnet.nu/singo/g2/
take a good look at them...look at ALL of them
a8m,a7m,a14m,b1,b3,b5 are the most obvious.
another poster here also recognizes this artwork
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&page=1&message=1617408
your denile is valid
so based on your beliefs i guess you'll be buying the G2 that gives you pink/fucias sunsets
cheers
Yes, but would the pictures have been as good with the Sony F707?
Did you notice that shot of the boat in the dock that was heavily backlit... and no purple fringing?
How about that red boat (or any of the reds, for that matter)?
The heavily lit green leaves against the dark house?
I haven't gotten my F707 yet and only have the samples I've been seeing from others to judge against the many shots I've seen so far from the G2. However, I can't help but wonder why we're not seeing at least an occasional stunning shot like these here.
Bryan
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i said yes, and absolutely.
Yes...this photographer can take the same pics or better with the 707 and most of the pics if not all had some cleaning up thru photoshop or other program.
Your denile that this exist is just a lack of understanding the processes involved.
I use photoshop. And not just for improving photos but for the graphic arts job that i do.
Im not an expert but i can recognize photos that have been adjusted.
Your comment to not seeing stunning shots like those have already been posted by another 707 user here.
Look up "SDommin", he's posted quite a few pictures already(cat, outdoor fall colors) im sure youve seen them.
Everyone has complimented him on those pictures including myself. They are beautiful and compositions are superb.
But,(heres my eye again), i recognize the pictures are not "raw"
And "raw" as meaning... shutter... pic... to memory stick....to...photo album upload....to your monitor.
So i asked Scott(SDommin) if pics have been photoshopped and he was honest to acknowledge that they were.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&page=1&message=1616026
Now back to the photos involved.... http://medlem.tripodnet.nu/singo/g2/
take a good look at them...look at ALL of them
a8m,a7m,a14m,b1,b3,b5 are the most obvious.
another poster here also recognizes this artwork
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&page=1&message=1617408
your denile is valid
so based on your beliefs i guess you'll be buying the G2 that gives you pink/fucias sunsets
cheers
Todd Meyers
Senior Member
Wow ZipperZ, you pretty much ended that argument. I agree, a little image processing can work wonders.
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Todd Meyers
Senior Member
Not sure what you mean, Robert. I'm just making the point that if you constantly wait for the "next" great digital camera to come along before you make a purchase, you're going to be waiting a long, LONG time.
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Todd Meyers
Senior Member
Bryan,
Maybe we see things differently, but I've been seeing plenty of jaw-dropping photos from the F707. That's why I bought one. I could have bought a G2 but I did not see anything in the pics that you can't get with the F707, and the Sony fit my other needs better. So that's my choice, and yours is different. I'm really not sure why you feel the need to try and prove the F707 is inferior. Why can't they both be great cameras, and just leave it at that?
Todd
Maybe we see things differently, but I've been seeing plenty of jaw-dropping photos from the F707. That's why I bought one. I could have bought a G2 but I did not see anything in the pics that you can't get with the F707, and the Sony fit my other needs better. So that's my choice, and yours is different. I'm really not sure why you feel the need to try and prove the F707 is inferior. Why can't they both be great cameras, and just leave it at that?
Todd
BryanS
Veteran Member
OK, I'm willing to look. Show me a link or two.
Seriously, I've seen several impressive portrait shots. I remember one of a guy sitting down where you could see the dust on the glasses and one of a little girl that impressed the heck out of me. But I'm seeing way, way too many with colors that are FAR off that would take forever in photoshop to try and fix... frankly, I don't want to work that hard on my shots.
So, I go hot and cold with the samples. I'll see one where I say, "I gotta have one of those," and then I'll see a gallery that will make me cringe... not because of the photography, but because of the camera.
How about this one I just looked at... nearly fell out of my chair. What could have POSSIBLY happened to the green in this photo?
http://www.pbase.com/image/409861
Sure, we can. I didn't start this thread, and am waiting for my own F707 from Sears next Tuesday so I can compare for myself. But when I see photos like the above, I'm starting to wonder if it's worth the bother.
Bryan
How can you be so sure that these were actually taken with the G2... pretty convincing having one in hand looking at the mirror! That could have been put in there via layering/pen tool etc., I especially like the blurring around the edges of the frame!
May be it was taken with a F5, 85MM, Kodacolor 200 and drummed in...
Have you seen the Nessy lately, I am sure that you can find it on the web somewhere! By the way, if you could please do that with the popular G2 you will get more recognition in the digital world as well
Just a thought because they do look too good!
May be it was taken with a F5, 85MM, Kodacolor 200 and drummed in...
Have you seen the Nessy lately, I am sure that you can find it on the web somewhere! By the way, if you could please do that with the popular G2 you will get more recognition in the digital world as well
Just a thought because they do look too good!
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Ron Parr
Guest
The picture has been altered and resaved. It's awful at a number of levels, so I'm not sure what indignities it suffered before it reached pbase. We can only hope that it didn't look like this straight out of the camera.
Ron
BryanS
Veteran Member
Gosh, I sure hope so. I nearly called Sears and told them to forget it.
That's what scares me, though. I keep seeing photos with huge greenish tint that was supposedly fixed before production, or occasional abnormally blown out colors. That mixes with the fact that I've never seen something so out-of-bounds with the G2 (so far).
Bryan
ZipperZ63395
Active member
heehee...not looking to win...just want others to understand that with a litttle creativity, they too can produce supreme well composed digital photos on their 707.
but im surprised no one else picked this up.
http://medlem.tripodnet.nu/singo/g2/b3.htm
i saw it at the get go and i waited,, and waited,...and no one said anything.
its funny how the photographer actually states hes meshed 2 photos together using photoshop. lol
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&page=2&message=1585610
and even thou hes only had the C2 for a week...and he posted the web page on October 03rd....some of the pics are dated a"after"...October 3rd???? lol
i know...im wacked....
pass me another beer
cheers
Zip
but im surprised no one else picked this up.
http://medlem.tripodnet.nu/singo/g2/b3.htm
i saw it at the get go and i waited,, and waited,...and no one said anything.
its funny how the photographer actually states hes meshed 2 photos together using photoshop. lol
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&page=2&message=1585610
and even thou hes only had the C2 for a week...and he posted the web page on October 03rd....some of the pics are dated a"after"...October 3rd???? lol
i know...im wacked....
pass me another beer
cheers
Zip
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