What Am I Doing Wrong?

Actually I didn't know you had to either but I experimented and it took maybe a minute to figure it out.
Try finding a location in the book that says to hold the button down
while turning the main control dial. It says press the button and
turn the
dial, not press and hold the button while turning the dial. For an
oldtimer
to the world of DSLR's like yourself this might be intuative but
for a novice
such as myself I read it lierally and it is not clear. I have
read, and re-read,
the FM and it ain't perfect by a long shot! Maybe some day I will
be able to
grasp all you seem to have. I can only hope!

TBP
The answer to all your questions can be found in the wonderful
manual that Nikon provide in the box.
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Lewis
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And oddly enough I did also, eventually. For those that knew the answer
it was not forthcoming when I asked the question. So it seems that you
knew the answer yet were not going to divulge it. Nice.... Thanks for
the help. Is your only purpose in life to deride those that you perceive
as less experienced than you with this camera, and behave
condescendingly before and after the fact?

TBP
 
I was probably the person you are referring to. I just try to steer people away from using auto, because this will not provide the best results that this camera can offer. Many people were disappointed in the images they got using Auto out of the box (muddy, dull photos). I totally understand the 'spouse' situation, where you want her to take a picture, and not have to worry about Aperture, Shutterspeed, or ISO. I would suggest using 'P' mode. This is very much like Auto, where the camera sets everything for you, but you can still customize the look of the image in the image settings. You can increase the saturation, contrast, hue, sharpening, etc - so you do not have to spend so much time getting the look you want in post processing. It seems the D50 has done a good job of delivering better jpgs in Auto modes, since the camera is aimed at first time D-slr people (ex point & shooters).

Do not return the camera. Just tweak some of the settings in the customize menu, and you will get better jpgs straight out of the camera. Leave the camera on P for the spouse. My girfriend knew nothing about photography when we bought the D70. She attended Nikon school with me, because I thought it would be a great learning experience. Some of my skills have rubbed off on her, and now she lives in Aperture priority just like I do, and she has captured some wonderful shots.
Hi,

I was on the phone with Nikon a minute ago and I am really upset.

I read the messages in this thread and I read the comment on the
AUTO mode. Someone said that if you bought the D70 for using only
the AUTO mode then you should have bought something else. This
sentence upsets me so much! My wife is not a photograph and is far
from being an amateur. She wants to use only the AUTO mode and do
not worry about any settings.

What upset me the most and I need your help there otherwise I will
return immediately the D70 I have just bought, is the following:
On the Auto mode, when you take picture, does the camera control
the ISO setting?

I spent the WE in New York.Saturday night, I took pictures at
ISO=1000.The day after that, we were outdoor with friends. I did
not want to do any manual settings. I just wanted to take picture
and that's it.
All my pictures were taken at ISO=1000, AUTO mode, having the
option ISO AUTO ON in the CSM menu!!!!! I threw them all!

Could you tell me that Nikon, in the AUTO mode can do a better job
than a Point & Shoot, because the Nikon's technical service could
not say so...

Thanks for having read this message
--
ShutterBugin
http://www.exposureproductions.smugmug.com

 
No I always offer help even if it is the answer to a question I have seen on this forum a million times before. This time I didn't think I needed to as the manual helped me, so I figured it would help you too. Jeez.
--
Lewis
http://chilipalmer.deviantart.com/gallery/
 
I really appreciate your answer because at least it is not one of these messages which stands that nothing but Nikon or Canon is better...

This is very surprising that a camera so great by many aspects ( I spent 10 months reading reviews, trying cameras, asking questions, budjetting, etc..) does not have such a common features that nowadays all P&S have. I compared cameras trying to see which one will fit the best to my use and I was at million miles away of thinking it would not do it in AUTO mode.

The guy from Nikon advised me to reset my camera each time I would have to select the AUTO mode! Can you believe that?

When you say that on the P mode it set everything, does it adjust the ISO, the shutter speed and the aperture to the best values for the situation or does it try to adjust the ISO at the closet value from the one set in memory, shutter speed and aperture to take the best picture?

Thank you very much for your answer
 
My pleasure. I truley hate the Canon vs Nikon thing. A good photographer can take a good picture with any camera.

It is a little surprising that the D70 does not take better pictures in Auto, but that was the point of my original post denouncing the auto mode. IMHO, a D70 should not be bought just to use in Auto, but to learn more about photography, and experience the difference in image quality from a P&S camera. Still, I agree that the camera SHOULD take better pictures in Auto mode, for the 'spouse' situation ;-).

I do not understand why that Nikon guy told you that. Does not make sense to me.

P mode will not adjust the ISO UNLESS you set the camera to 'ISO Auto'. Then, P mode will still select the Aperture and Shutter Speed that is appropriate for the situation, and adjust the ISO accordingly as well.

Good luck!
I really appreciate your answer because at least it is not one of
these messages which stands that nothing but Nikon or Canon is
better...

This is very surprising that a camera so great by many aspects ( I
spent 10 months reading reviews, trying cameras, asking questions,
budjetting, etc..) does not have such a common features that
nowadays all P&S have. I compared cameras trying to see which one
will fit the best to my use and I was at million miles away of
thinking it would not do it in AUTO mode.

The guy from Nikon advised me to reset my camera each time I would
have to select the AUTO mode! Can you believe that?

When you say that on the P mode it set everything, does it adjust
the ISO, the shutter speed and the aperture to the best values for
the situation or does it try to adjust the ISO at the closet value
from the one set in memory, shutter speed and aperture to take the
best picture?

Thank you very much for your answer
--
ShutterBugin
http://www.exposureproductions.smugmug.com

 
TBP

I haven't throughly read your thread, so if this point has been covered please forgive me.

You say that you have to hold down the shutter release button whilst turning either of the Command Dials to change settings.

This is a misunderstanding of how the camera works. You can only change settings whilst the camera is 'active'. You make the camera active by pressing the shutter release button. How long the camera remains active depends on your setting in CSM 23, the default is 6 secs, which is not long.
--
Jeff
 
Chilipalmer,

First, you made six posts in this thread, five of which told TPB to RTFM. The other message criticized him for not being intuitive enough to "figure it out by playing with it for only a minute." This, IMHO, borders on harassment. You made your point in the first post - no need to "sprinkle" your opinion throughout the thread.

Now, may I add something constructive? The D70 does, in fact, have semi-sticky buttons. One half press of the shutter release and you can make adjustments to the aperture or shutter speed even after releasing the button. However, the ability to make adjustments is no longer possible once the metering becomes inactive. The length of time it takes for the metering to become inactive is determined by CSM Setting #23. I keep mine on 16 seconds, although active metering does use up a fair amount of battery power. You may have your settings on as low as 4 seconds. If this were the case, then once you stop fiddling with the command dial for more than 4 seconds, the metering shuts down and the command dials will no longer be active until you give the shutter button another half-press. So the point I am trying to make is that you don't have to continue holding down the shutter release to adjust the command dials as long as the metering is active.

--Will
 
Thank you very much. I appreciate the information a lot.

Regards,

TBP
TBP

I haven't throughly read your thread, so if this point has been
covered please forgive me.

You say that you have to hold down the shutter release button
whilst turning either of the Command Dials to change settings.

This is a misunderstanding of how the camera works. You can only
change settings whilst the camera is 'active'. You make the camera
active by pressing the shutter release button. How long the camera
remains active depends on your setting in CSM 23, the default is 6
secs, which is not long.
--
Jeff
 
Will64,

I made an assumption that when someone buys a complicated item like the D70 they read the manual. I work all day with computers, software and hardware and I am used to figuring things out with little or no help. Results in my job depend on that fact. I made another assumption that if someone actually picks up the camera and starts playing with it they actully figure out things very quickly, the human brain excels at doing this. We have an amazing capacity for problem solving.

Now as for my repeated mentioning of RTFM, at no time did he say in the posts I read that he actually read the manaul, it was mentioned much later. I felt compelled to mention the manual more than once. Again I refer you to my assumption that someone can figure out the simple operation concerning when are where you can use command dials to alter settings, from the manual.

No matter...
Chilipalmer,

First, you made six posts in this thread, five of which told TPB to
RTFM. The other message criticized him for not being intuitive
enough to "figure it out by playing with it for only a minute."
This, IMHO, borders on harassment. You made your point in the
first post - no need to "sprinkle" your opinion throughout the
thread.

Now, may I add something constructive? The D70 does, in fact, have
semi-sticky buttons. One half press of the shutter release and you
can make adjustments to the aperture or shutter speed even after
releasing the button. However, the ability to make adjustments is
no longer possible once the metering becomes inactive. The length
of time it takes for the metering to become inactive is determined
by CSM Setting #23. I keep mine on 16 seconds, although active
metering does use up a fair amount of battery power. You may have
your settings on as low as 4 seconds. If this were the case, then
once you stop fiddling with the command dial for more than 4
seconds, the metering shuts down and the command dials will no
longer be active until you give the shutter button another
half-press. So the point I am trying to make is that you don't
have to continue holding down the shutter release to adjust the
command dials as long as the metering is active.

--Will
--
Lewis
http://chilipalmer.deviantart.com/gallery/
 
I think telling the OP what to do, and offering a simple explanation would have taken about the same amount of time as typing RTFM.
Now as for my repeated mentioning of RTFM, at no time did he say in
the posts I read that he actually read the manaul, it was
mentioned much later. I felt compelled to mention the manual more
than once. Again I refer you to my assumption that someone can
figure out the simple operation concerning when are where you can
use command dials to alter settings, from the manual.

No matter...
Chilipalmer,

First, you made six posts in this thread, five of which told TPB to
RTFM. The other message criticized him for not being intuitive
enough to "figure it out by playing with it for only a minute."
This, IMHO, borders on harassment. You made your point in the
first post - no need to "sprinkle" your opinion throughout the
thread.

Now, may I add something constructive? The D70 does, in fact, have
semi-sticky buttons. One half press of the shutter release and you
can make adjustments to the aperture or shutter speed even after
releasing the button. However, the ability to make adjustments is
no longer possible once the metering becomes inactive. The length
of time it takes for the metering to become inactive is determined
by CSM Setting #23. I keep mine on 16 seconds, although active
metering does use up a fair amount of battery power. You may have
your settings on as low as 4 seconds. If this were the case, then
once you stop fiddling with the command dial for more than 4
seconds, the metering shuts down and the command dials will no
longer be active until you give the shutter button another
half-press. So the point I am trying to make is that you don't
have to continue holding down the shutter release to adjust the
command dials as long as the metering is active.

--Will
--
Lewis
http://chilipalmer.deviantart.com/gallery/
--
ShutterBugin
http://www.exposureproductions.smugmug.com

 
Maybe, maybe not.

Sometimes I wonder why they bother with a manual.
Now as for my repeated mentioning of RTFM, at no time did he say in
the posts I read that he actually read the manaul, it was
mentioned much later. I felt compelled to mention the manual more
than once. Again I refer you to my assumption that someone can
figure out the simple operation concerning when are where you can
use command dials to alter settings, from the manual.

No matter...
Chilipalmer,

First, you made six posts in this thread, five of which told TPB to
RTFM. The other message criticized him for not being intuitive
enough to "figure it out by playing with it for only a minute."
This, IMHO, borders on harassment. You made your point in the
first post - no need to "sprinkle" your opinion throughout the
thread.

Now, may I add something constructive? The D70 does, in fact, have
semi-sticky buttons. One half press of the shutter release and you
can make adjustments to the aperture or shutter speed even after
releasing the button. However, the ability to make adjustments is
no longer possible once the metering becomes inactive. The length
of time it takes for the metering to become inactive is determined
by CSM Setting #23. I keep mine on 16 seconds, although active
metering does use up a fair amount of battery power. You may have
your settings on as low as 4 seconds. If this were the case, then
once you stop fiddling with the command dial for more than 4
seconds, the metering shuts down and the command dials will no
longer be active until you give the shutter button another
half-press. So the point I am trying to make is that you don't
have to continue holding down the shutter release to adjust the
command dials as long as the metering is active.

--Will
--
Lewis
http://chilipalmer.deviantart.com/gallery/
--
ShutterBugin
http://www.exposureproductions.smugmug.com

--
Lewis
http://chilipalmer.deviantart.com/gallery/
 

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