SD10 SPLIT SCREEN order info / FAQ

Lance Brown · May 30, 2005

i wanted to give everyone, who is interested in a split screen, information on how to order. the text below is from rachael who is making the screens:

Payments should be made to the PayPal account [email protected]. I’ll run a batch of whatever number we get when I return next Monday (June 6th). So let people know that if they want to be in on this batch, their order must be placed by Friday (June 3rd). After that, I’ll either run a batch each time we get to 4-5 orders or it might make sense to just run a batch every two weeks. Just tell people to get their orders in this week and the next batch will be sometime in the future. http://www.keoptics.com **

FAQ (by lance)

HOW MUCH?

$200 US funds. includes domestic USA priority mail shipping. international orders will incur an additional shipping charge. consult with rachael.

IS IT REALLY AN IMPROVEMENT OVER A STOCK SCREEN?
for focus - yes, huge improvement to me...

IS IT BRIGHTER THAN THE STOCK SCREEN?

not at wide open. theoretically, it is brighter while using M42 lenses with aperture closed down. i have not had the opportunity to check this yet by comparing another camera with the same M42 lense.

IS INSTALLATION EASY?

apparently those with average mechanical skills will be able to install themselves. there will be detailed instructions with photos on how to install the screen.

CAN I HAVE SOMEONE INSTALL IT FOR ME?

rachael has the name of someone that will install it for you (at an additional charge), if you feel so inclined.

WILL IT VOID MY WARRANTY?
check with your local Sigma distributer.

WILL IT WORK IN AN SD9?

yes, but check with mike gerstner on metering challenges with the SD9. he has one installed in his SD9 and will be installing it in his SD10. (he would be good to question about the installation process as well).

feel free to ask any other questions here.

Rachael7 · May 31, 2005

I just wanted to follow up on the cost of international shipping.

USPS Global Priority Mail adds an additional $15USD to any of the countries they can ship to. This includes Canada, Germany, UK, Australia, Sweden, Switzerland, and many others. USPS Airmail Parcel Post will cover most other countries for the same additional $15USD.

Both of these services are economy air services that do not include any customs expediting. You will be notified by your customs bureau when the package arrives, if you are required to pay any duties or taxes before your order can be delivered. In addition, these services do not include much ability to track your package, nor do they guarantee a delivery time. However, they quote 4-6 days for most countries.

If you want FedEx or UPS, please email me for a quote at [email protected]. The cost is generally $70USD or more, which is why I don't usually use these services.

For the standard Global Priority or Airmail Parcel Post, just add the $15 charge to the total when you place your order through PayPal. Please be sure to include a complete accurate shipping address as well as your phone number.

Thank you very much.

Best regards,
Rachael Katz
Katz Eye Optics
http://www.keoptics.com

MdjHtown · May 31, 2005

I can of course do a search on split screen and try to find out that way. But I am too lazy. So here goes. What is a split screen and why would I want to have one (let alone pay for one

)?

Cheers,

Marcel

Thomas Mottl · May 31, 2005

A Split screen was common in the good ol days of manual focus cameras. (If theses where good ol days

)

In the center of the screen is a sort of prism, when a line is crossing this part it looks broken when the picture is unsharp and it looks intact when the picture is sharp. You need this for manual lenses or if you have a bad AF.

It could also be nice for Macro work, but as I know from my manual camera, when trying to use a bellows or something else to get real big magnification, the split screen is often becoming dark and will help you in no way.
Cheerio
Thomas

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Topi · May 31, 2005

Thomas Mottl said:
It could also be nice for Macro work, but as I know from my manual
camera, when trying to use a bellows or something else to get real
big magnification, the split screen is often becoming dark and
will help you in no way.

Depends on the speed of the lens system, anything below f:5.6 will generally darken at least one half of the split screen. So bellows will mostly be a no-go.

Cheers,

-Topi Kuusinen, Finland

DaSonyGuy · May 31, 2005

Thomas Mottl said:
A Split screen was common in the good ol days of manual focus
cameras. (If theses where good ol days )
In the center of the screen is a sort of prism, when a line is
crossing this part it looks broken when the picture is unsharp and
it looks intact when the picture is sharp. You need this for manual
lenses or if you have a bad AF.
It could also be nice for Macro work, but as I know from my manual
camera, when trying to use a bellows or something else to get real
big magnification, the split screen is often becoming dark and
will help you in no way.

It will, you just need to use a brighter light source when you are using high magnifications.

I have found that when using a small 12V 50W Halogen bulb sited fairly close to the subject the viewfinder is bright enough to allow easy focussing at 12x mag' (210mm + reversed 17mm), even without a split screen.

Regards

DSG
--
http://sigmasd10.fotopic.net/

Halldor Eiriksson · May 31, 2005

Marcel de Jong said:
I can of course do a search on split screen and try to find out
that way. But I am too lazy. So here goes. What is a split screen
and why would I want to have one (let alone pay for one )?

Cheers,

Marcel

The very best thing would be a microprism around the split screen circle, like in alomst every SLR before autofocus. With new technology, you hardly get all the goodies of the old technology it replaces. Focusing in the good old days of manual focusing was never a problem, I have never got so many out of focus pics after I went digital with autofocus lenses. My SD9 might possibly be faulty, I don't know, but sometimes it wont focus at all and "hunts" endlessly.
Halldor

MdjHtown · May 31, 2005

Doesn't sound like I need (and I don't think I want) one

Cheers,

Marcel

Lance Brown · May 31, 2005

the keoptics split screen has the microprism around the split screen.

also of note the hi-lux treatment allows focus aiding down to f5.6 before the circle becomes too dark.

i'll see if rachael has pictures of the screen that can be posted.

-lance

Halldor Eiriksson said:
The very best thing would be a microprism around the split screen
circle, like in alomst every SLR before autofocus. With new
technology, you hardly get all the goodies of the old technology it
replaces. Focusing in the good old days of manual focusing was
never a problem, I have never got so many out of focus pics after I
went digital with autofocus lenses. My SD9 might possibly be
faulty, I don't know, but sometimes it wont focus at all and
"hunts" endlessly.
Halldor

Laurence Matson · May 31, 2005

Marcel de Jong said:
Doesn't sound like I need (and I don't think I want) one

Where have I heard that before?

--
Laurence

There is a tide in the affairs of men,
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.

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Spiky · May 31, 2005

How well does this mimic the Sigma "sports finder" grey area around the outside of the screen?

pyatak · May 31, 2005

Lance Brown said:
Payments should be made to the PayPal account
[email protected].

paypal only payments = no russian customers

paypal refuse to provide service for russian federation...

armaco · May 31, 2005

Does it affect the metering of SD10 in any way???
Which are the drawbacks?

Is it a good idea adding grid lines at the one third rule ? (This will cost 60usd)

Kostas Sarris

Kendall Helmstetter Gelner · May 31, 2005

I'll try to have my payment in later today. Thanks for posting the info.

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armaco · May 31, 2005

from [email protected]

'Please be sure to tell me exactly what you are ordering and include a complete shipping address with phone number when you place your order. '
Shipping for Greece is 15$ as well.

I just want to make sure that it doesn’t affect the metering or something other in a bad way.

I do think that it will help when AF is a problem or when Battery life is more important but it’s not inexpensive either.

But from a different perspective, that cost is nothing in contrast to the joy that gives, the feeling of easy and accurate MF.

What do you think?

Frits Thomsen · May 31, 2005

armaco said:
from [email protected]
'Please be sure to tell me exactly what you are ordering and
include a complete shipping address with phone number when you
place your order. '
Shipping for Greece is 15$ as well.

I just want to make sure that it doesn?t affect the metering or
something other in a bad way.
I do think that it will help when AF is a problem or when Battery
life is more important but it?s not inexpensive either.
But from a different perspective, that cost is nothing in contrast
to the joy that gives, the feeling of easy and accurate MF.

What do you think?

I think this is great.!!

I have allways believed the lack of a decent focussing screen was the biggest drawback of my SD10 and any other DSLR... I can´t imagine why the manufacturers want to make such crippled cameras,... a SLR without focussing screen is only half a camera....

I will certainly buy one as soon as possible...

--
Frits Thomsen
See my pictures at
http://www.pbase.com/yoicz

Pavel Sokolov · May 31, 2005

Rachael7 said:
I just wanted to follow up on the cost of international shipping.

How much it cost with DHL to Russia/St.Petersburg?

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Lance Brown · May 31, 2005

kostas - it does not affect the metering on the SD10 from what i've seen so fart. if it does, it's very very small.

for the SD9, check with mike gerstner.

Lance Brown · May 31, 2005

pictures will be posted of the screen - so you can see for yourself ho w that was approached. pictures are certainly better than a description.

Spiky said:
How well does this mimic the Sigma "sports finder" grey area around
the outside of the screen?

Lance Brown · May 31, 2005

you should check with rachael on how to purchase without paypal. i imagine you could send a money order. it just will take longer.

pyatak said:
Lance Brown said:

Payments should be made to the PayPal account
[email protected].

Click to expand...

paypal only payments = no russian customers
paypal refuse to provide service for russian federation...

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