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I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects? Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
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Maybe it might work on footballers?



Excal
Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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Hmmm, maybe. Could we agree to never let them defrost? NIce shot by the way, although you evidently nudged the zoom ring with your hand!
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Excal said:


Excal
Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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Hi Seb,

I've this image of your intended subject slowly coagulating next to the ice maker . Reptiles DO slow down in the cold but don't know about birds or insects. What are you thinking about doing?

To avoid the wrath of the UK version of PETA or SPCA, you might consider borrowing stuffed animals from your local natural history museum.

My mother teaches science, and one night when I went to my parents' home for dinner, I was greeted by a bobcat in the living room. After that moment of "fight or flight," I saw that it was an exhibit model from the museum.
Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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I don't know about your european footballers, I know american football players are cold blooded or is that their brains are the size of lizards. Oh well, they're too big to get in my freezer?
Excal said:


Excal
Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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Well you can get those cans of "cold spray". No diea what they're really called! Used in electronics work to stop components overheating when soldering.

Really though, I keep on reading snippets about people doing this. I found it hard to believe at first but it seems quite a lot do. Or maybe they're all taking the pee (it won't let me say p1ss!) and I'm falling for ti!
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Paul S said:
I've this image of your intended subject slowly coagulating next to
the ice maker . Reptiles DO slow down in the cold but don't
know about birds or insects. What are you thinking about doing?

To avoid the wrath of the UK version of PETA or SPCA, you might
consider borrowing stuffed animals from your local natural history
museum.

My mother teaches science, and one night when I went to my parents'
home for dinner, I was greeted by a bobcat in the living room.
After that moment of "fight or flight," I saw that it was an
exhibit model from the museum.
Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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This is a really strange question. Lizards are cold blooded and may survive for a short time in the freezer but not for long. Birds and insects are not and would die quickly, assuming they would ever survive your capturing them to put them in the freezer. Why not put in the work to capture them in their natural setting...
Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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It's not something I was gonna start doing davo, but my curiosity was stirred. If I'd only seen it mentioned once I'd have ignored it...
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davo said:
Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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Seb

Yes works well. I do it quite a bit down here in Australia where we all have very big freezers for storing whole cows and sheep for the winter.

Works particularly well with lizards and insects - slows them down a treat. Have also tried with small rodents and marsupials - baby wombats and wallabies are very good. I've found it best to put them in a large sack inside a plastic bag so that during more extended freezer stays their bodily outputs don't foul the edibles.

Have a friend in the outback who has a very large freezer - walkin type - he claims that 25 minutes at -15 works for a full size crocodile. He lures them in with a couple of dead kangaroos. Only trick with the fullsize croc is that you need someone to keep a close watch on them while your taking the shots as they liven up pretty quickly when the outdoor temp is 110+.

Only bad experience I had was with a Brolga (rare Australian water crane), we set it in a life like pose using wires and gaffer tape and put it in the freezer for 20 minutes, it came out looking great, took the gaffer tape off and unfortulately I knocked it over and the darn things head broke right off it's neck. Few quick repairs with some tape and we were able to get in a couple of shots before it fell off again. I guess the lesson from that one is that your larger water birds probably only need about 15 minutes.

Hope that helps regards

MJP
 
Please don't do this. I don't know how "safe" it is, but it can't be very good. This sounds like something a nasty little boy would do for amusement. Just so you can take better pictures? I'm not one of those animal "activists" but when I hear stuff like this I think maybe they have a point! We should never harm something else just for our own gain...doesn't that seem just "wrong" to you? I hope so. K.
Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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Jeez, I'm with Koo on this one. I'm not an animal freak, but for crying out loud, FREEZING them so you can take a picture? Of course, I'm sure the laws in Australia are quite lax compared to the US. Tell you what, you try that kind of stunt in the States and I can almost guarantee you jail time.

Legal aspects aside, why even do it? Like someone else said, hone your skills and shoot 'em in the wild. I was reading this thread and almost couldn't believe my eyes. I certainly thought we were all a little more decent humans than that. Crane's head breaking off? Come on. That's not only ridiculous, but extremely cruel.

I suppose you beat your dog until it sits still so you can take a picture of it.

Here's hoping that croc wakes up early and takes the camera from you (and maybe a bit of that hand too).

JF
koo22 said:
Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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JF

gee, those laws must be terribly restrictive in the US - how do you get a decent wildlife photo? Maybe just the gaffer tape and wire without freezing - would that be ok?

regards

MJP

PS - something else we do in Australia is take an extreme humorous position, that no one (?) would take seriously, to take make fun of something quite ludicrous - like putting wildlife in the freezer.

PPS - my wife won't let me beat the dog - she insists that I use a little ether on a cloth - the dog seems to be quite pliable for about half an hour after this - a little floppy (more wires and gaffer tape) - but wakes up quite chipper and looking for a meal!
JF said:
Legal aspects aside, why even do it? Like someone else said, hone
your skills and shoot 'em in the wild. I was reading this thread
and almost couldn't believe my eyes. I certainly thought we were
all a little more decent humans than that. Crane's head breaking
off? Come on. That's not only ridiculous, but extremely cruel.

I suppose you beat your dog until it sits still so you can take a
picture of it.

Here's hoping that croc wakes up early and takes the camera from
you (and maybe a bit of that hand too).

JF
koo22 said:
Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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Ahh, you crazy Aussies and that trademark sense of humor. (?).

G'Day. Mate.

JF
MJP said:
JF

gee, those laws must be terribly restrictive in the US - how do you
get a decent wildlife photo? Maybe just the gaffer tape and wire
without freezing - would that be ok?

regards

MJP

PS - something else we do in Australia is take an extreme humorous
position, that no one (?) would take seriously, to take make fun of
something quite ludicrous - like putting wildlife in the freezer.
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It takes much less than a freezer to slow them down or even STOP them. We had a 3 foot iguana that when his heat light burned out one night and the temp got to 65-70 he was VERY SLOW.

 
.....who needs Steve Irwin when you've got all those tricks worked out?
 
This is worse than British humor. I never could get that either. Oh well, it all comes from the same place, maybe that explains it. (had no idea you weren't being serious) K.
MJP said:
gee, those laws must be terribly restrictive in the US - how do you
get a decent wildlife photo? Maybe just the gaffer tape and wire
without freezing - would that be ok?

regards

MJP

PS - something else we do in Australia is take an extreme humorous
position, that no one (?) would take seriously, to take make fun of
something quite ludicrous - like putting wildlife in the freezer.

PPS - my wife won't let me beat the dog - she insists that I use a
little ether on a cloth - the dog seems to be quite pliable for
about half an hour after this - a little floppy (more wires and
gaffer tape) - but wakes up quite chipper and looking for a meal!
JF said:
Legal aspects aside, why even do it? Like someone else said, hone
your skills and shoot 'em in the wild. I was reading this thread
and almost couldn't believe my eyes. I certainly thought we were
all a little more decent humans than that. Crane's head breaking
off? Come on. That's not only ridiculous, but extremely cruel.

I suppose you beat your dog until it sits still so you can take a
picture of it.

Here's hoping that croc wakes up early and takes the camera from
you (and maybe a bit of that hand too).

JF
koo22 said:
Seb (UK) said:
I've heard talk of how it is safe to put lizards and the like in
the freezer to make taking photos easier. If this is true I assume
it's because they're cold blooded that this can be done. Is this
common practice? What else can be frozen with no harmful effects?
Are birds cold-blooded? Insects?
  • seb
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Excal

did you use the TCON-300 ? if so you zoomed out just a little bit and that would cause vignetting as you can see in the right two corners

Mike
Excal said:
excal said:
although you evidently nudged the zoom ring with your hand!
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I thought it was a bit of just camera shake. What are you looking
at to spot that it was the zoom ring?

Excal
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