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Pconline.com.cn - copyright infringement
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Alan Manewitz
Member
Phil
Could you bill Dell, Canon etc for advertising on this site with your material? You could either ask an outrageous amount or ask them to pay an equal amount to what they give the site. If you can't beat'em, make it profitable. The reputable advertisers would either pay, stop advertising there or do nothing. If they did nothing, an email based boycott could be a follow up. Just a thought
Alan
Could you bill Dell, Canon etc for advertising on this site with your material? You could either ask an outrageous amount or ask them to pay an equal amount to what they give the site. If you can't beat'em, make it profitable. The reputable advertisers would either pay, stop advertising there or do nothing. If they did nothing, an email based boycott could be a follow up. Just a thought
Alan
Mike Karmyshev
Active member
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Well-known member
Hidalgo you obviously have a lot to learn.
Look what Phil created for us, and now your not even helping him out when he needs us the most. You can philosophize all you want. Even if your silly theory could be applied, this is DPreview.
Show your support for it.
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Look what Phil created for us, and now your not even helping him out when he needs us the most. You can philosophize all you want. Even if your silly theory could be applied, this is DPreview.
Show your support for it.
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notpc
Senior Member
Meaning, is there enough traffic from china so that the loss of that traffic would significantly affect the number of hits here? Since it's a Chinese site and dpreview is in English, I doubt many potential dpreview users would go there instead of here. I'd say just forget it and assume there's no money to be made from the Chinese market.
MarkKLC
Active member
It was fine this morning, but when I checked it just now, I got error pages when navigating some of the pages in Phil's links.
Coincidence?
'Fear is a darkroom where negatives develop'
Coincidence?
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Phil Askey
Guest
You know I'm shocked when I read this kind of rubbish.
This has NOTHING to do with money. This has to do with the hundreds of hours of work that goes into what we publish every week, it has to do with so called 'editors' at large publications such as pconline taking those hours of work and passing it off as their own. I do not work 100+ hours a week for that. I do it for dpreview.
Phil Askey
Editor / Owner, dpreview.com
This has NOTHING to do with money. This has to do with the hundreds of hours of work that goes into what we publish every week, it has to do with so called 'editors' at large publications such as pconline taking those hours of work and passing it off as their own. I do not work 100+ hours a week for that. I do it for dpreview.
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Phil Askey
Editor / Owner, dpreview.com
I feel for all of you in DPReview. Try blocking the entire spectrum of IPs. Put a nice article page informing them why they're being blocked. I'm sure a lot of Chinese will stand by you and feel ashamed too. Use the viewers to put pressure on the authorities!
Horrible act!
http://www.pbase.com/chonchat
Horrible act!
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http://www.pbase.com/chonchat
And I second Phil on this. It's not because of the hits, money, adverts or what. It's because of hard work, originality and authenticity!
http://www.pbase.com/chonchat
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http://www.pbase.com/chonchat
Seems like they (pconline.com.cn) have published an apology article on their website. Great job on their part!
However, I think this is not enough. They'll need to remove those articles. They're still there!
http://www.pbase.com/chonchat
However, I think this is not enough. They'll need to remove those articles. They're still there!
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http://www.pbase.com/chonchat
i am a chinese,that just live near the office building of Pconline.com.cn in
Guangdong province. i am ever so shame for i am chinese,Pconline.com.cn
has wiped out all the pages which belonged dpreview as for as i see.
you know some chinese corporations are still unware of the importance of copy right. it is a traditional bad habit and a kind of traditonal vice cultural phenomenon.
Guangdong province. i am ever so shame for i am chinese,Pconline.com.cn
has wiped out all the pages which belonged dpreview as for as i see.
you know some chinese corporations are still unware of the importance of copy right. it is a traditional bad habit and a kind of traditonal vice cultural phenomenon.
Mackintosh
Forum Enthusiast
..for Pete's sake (no offense Pete).
Mackintosh
Mackintosh
David Wong
Leading Member
Don't be ashame because u a Chinese..
Pconline.com.cn did something wrong..not u.
Be proud that China won 63 medals in the Olympic..and the next country that host the Olympic is China!!!
As for the copyright issues..It happen in other countries too..not just China...Example the DVD burner, it make it easier to copy films.
Pconline.com.cn did something wrong..not u.
Be proud that China won 63 medals in the Olympic..and the next country that host the Olympic is China!!!
As for the copyright issues..It happen in other countries too..not just China...Example the DVD burner, it make it easier to copy films.
a t o m i c
Senior Member
a t o m i c
Senior Member
Well, I hate watermarks as much as anyone, but it rather seems to me that it's your only choice at this point. Perhaps you could even include a chinese languge warning into it.
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Adrian
And making into a huge deal?
Yes, it's wrong to copy someone else's work especially when you have spent 100 hours per week on it.
However, look at it this way -- if you must respect copyright laws, then it should not end iwth the work in teh 20th century
How far back should it go? How about gun powder, invented by the Chinese, brought to Europe by Marco Polo and then was used against China during the Opium wars. I think that was much more of a "wrong doing" than some 100 hours per week, at least you didn't get killed So i think all countries should pay royalties to china when they build a bullet, a bomb, etc. Anything that uses gunpowder AND its derivative products. That's how copyright laws works today, and it is literally extended forever!
Copyright laws, in my opinion is used today by mega coporations to STIFLE competition, not to promote it. Same thing with patents.
It's funny how these double standards exist -- when China comes out with a new DVD standard to protect its domestic market, every other country barked about htat, even though it is a better standard than the current DVD standard
As far as someone who said don't sell to China -- fine, do that and you'll find yourself driven out of competition by others who will sell to China.
Yes, it's wrong to copy someone else's work especially when you have spent 100 hours per week on it.
However, look at it this way -- if you must respect copyright laws, then it should not end iwth the work in teh 20th century
How far back should it go? How about gun powder, invented by the Chinese, brought to Europe by Marco Polo and then was used against China during the Opium wars. I think that was much more of a "wrong doing" than some 100 hours per week, at least you didn't get killed So i think all countries should pay royalties to china when they build a bullet, a bomb, etc. Anything that uses gunpowder AND its derivative products. That's how copyright laws works today, and it is literally extended forever!Copyright laws, in my opinion is used today by mega coporations to STIFLE competition, not to promote it. Same thing with patents.
It's funny how these double standards exist -- when China comes out with a new DVD standard to protect its domestic market, every other country barked about htat, even though it is a better standard than the current DVD standard
As far as someone who said don't sell to China -- fine, do that and you'll find yourself driven out of competition by others who will sell to China.
a t o m i c
Senior Member
It is actually a shame that our ancestors created a lot for the world but our modern chinese have to buy and copy/pirate most techologies and ideas from other countries.
minnow
minnow
And making into a huge deal?
Yes, it's wrong to copy someone else's work especially when you
have spent 100 hours per week on it.
However, look at it this way -- if you must respect copyright laws,
then it should not end iwth the work in teh 20th century
far back should it go? How about gun powder, invented by the
Chinese, brought to Europe by Marco Polo and then was used against
China during the Opium wars. I think that was much more of a
"wrong doing" than some 100 hours per week, at least you didn't get
killed
when they build a bullet, a bomb, etc. Anything that uses
gunpowder AND its derivative products. That's how copyright laws
works today, and it is literally extended forever!
Copyright laws, in my opinion is used today by mega coporations to
STIFLE competition, not to promote it. Same thing with patents.
It's funny how these double standards exist -- when China comes out
with a new DVD standard to protect its domestic market, every other
country barked about htat, even though it is a better standard than
the current DVD standard
As far as someone who said don't sell to China -- fine, do that and
you'll find yourself driven out of competition by others who will
sell to China.
Copyright laws have time limitations (usually ranging from 0-100 years post mortem of the copyright holder).However, look at it this way -- if you must respect copyright laws,
then it should not end iwth the work in teh 20th century
far back should it go?
Inventions can not be copyrighted. They are patented, and as with copyrights, have a terminal life.
This is not how copyrights, patents, trademarks, or any other intellectual property laws work. I suggest you read up on the topic before making any conclusions about intellectual property rights.I think that was much more of a
"wrong doing" than some 100 hours per week, at least you didn't get
killed
when they build a bullet, a bomb, etc. Anything that uses
gunpowder AND its derivative products. That's how copyright laws
works today, and it is literally extended forever!
One can argue that IP laws stifle competition. One can also successfully argue IP laws encourage progress. For example, why should I invent product X only for Microsoft to steal it and mass produce it with its industrial, marketing, and financial might versus my one man operation? Why should I publish anything if someone else can steal it, claim it as their own, and peddle it without my consent?
IP laws serves to protect both corporate entities as well as individuals.
You know one defining charcateristic that differentiates first world countries from third world countries is the former all have IP laws while very few of the latter have any form of IP rights. It's no coincidence.
What double standard?It's funny how these double standards exist -- when China comes out
with a new DVD standard to protect its domestic market, every other
country barked about htat, even though it is a better standard than
the current DVD standard
I agree.
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