Windows 11 24H2 26100.2161 today; monitor profiling still broken

[BobKnDP]

I checked using Calibrite Profiler. My guess is that the software still isn't identifying the monitor, and it defaults to sRGB. (The monitor is a Philips 21E1N8900, an OLED with a fairly wide gamut.)

I'm staying with the Philips-provided ICC profile until it's fixed. Pfui.

I didn't try DisplayCal/Argyll CMS, but from what Profiler does, I assume that it's unchanged from 26100.2152.

The widely known (but presumably harmless) issues with SFC and Disk Cleanup seem to be gone.

 

[Ken Seals]

Can you manually select the correct profile?

 

[BobKnDP]

Can you manually select the correct profile?

I can manually select a profile in the old Color Management control panel. As I mentioned, I reverted to the ICC profile provided by Philips. (It's a wide-gamut one.)

What I can't do is generate a new profile, unless it's sRGB. The monitor is not set to sRGB mode. (It's Rec 2020, which is a wider gamut than the monitor can display. There is no "native" setting available.)

If any other Win 11 24H2 users can check whether the issue exists for them, I'd appreciate it. Call me selfish: the more people it affects, the sooner it may be fixed.

 

[Ken Seals]

Can you manually select the correct profile?

I can manually select a profile in the old Color Management control panel. As I mentioned, I reverted to the ICC profile provided by Philips. (It's a wide-gamut one.)

What I can't do is generate a new profile, unless it's sRGB. The monitor is not set to sRGB mode. (It's Rec 2020, which is a wider gamut than the monitor can display. There is no "native" setting available.)

How would you do that? Calibrite/X Rite sensor and software?

If any other Win 11 24H2 users.

I am still on Win 11, 23H2. I did run Calibrite yesterday on my two wide gamut monitors with no issues.

 

[BobKnDP]

Can you manually select the correct profile?

I can manually select a profile in the old Color Management control panel. As I mentioned, I reverted to the ICC profile provided by Philips. (It's a wide-gamut one.)

What I can't do is generate a new profile, unless it's sRGB. The monitor is not set to sRGB mode. (It's Rec 2020, which is a wider gamut than the monitor can display. There is no "native" setting available.)

How would you do that? Calibrite/X Rite sensor and software?

I'm not sure what you're asking.

My colorimeter is an X-Rite i1Display Pro Plus. The 24H2 bug affects both Calibrite Profiler and DisplayCal/Argyll CMS.

If any other Win 11 24H2 users.

I am still on Win 11, 23H2. I did run Calibrite yesterday on my two wide gamut monitors with no issues.

The bug is new to 24H2.

 

[Chris Mak]

I checked using Calibrite Profiler. My guess is that the software still isn't identifying the monitor, and it defaults to sRGB. (The monitor is a Philips 21E1N8900, an OLED with a fairly wide gamut.)

I'm staying with the Philips-provided ICC profile until it's fixed. Pfui.

I didn't try DisplayCal/Argyll CMS, but from what Profiler does, I assume that it's unchanged from 26100.2152.

The widely known (but presumably harmless) issues with SFC and Disk Cleanup seem to be gone.

Did you find a way to solve this?

I have an Eizo CG2700X and after upgrading to 24H2, the monitor software Color Navigator cannot load the icc profile into the OS anymore, so the monitor profile will be sRGB (as seen in photoshop). The system settings show the calibrated Eizo profile as monitor profile, but it is not loaded into the OS correctly, and screen colors are dull.

This bug first appeared with the introduction of windows 11, was solved after half a year and now has re-appeared.

An additional complex curiosity, is that things work correctly when connecting the display using the hdmi input, but that limits the display to 8bit color. When connecting using the displayport input, the bug appears. No setting that I can find solves it, so it appears color managment in windows 11 is yet again broken

 

[Phil Shaw]

I checked using Calibrite Profiler. My guess is that the software still isn't identifying the monitor, and it defaults to sRGB. (The monitor is a Philips 21E1N8900, an OLED with a fairly wide gamut.)

I'm staying with the Philips-provided ICC profile until it's fixed. Pfui.

I didn't try DisplayCal/Argyll CMS, but from what Profiler does, I assume that it's unchanged from 26100.2152.

The widely known (but presumably harmless) issues with SFC and Disk Cleanup seem to be gone.

Did you find a way to solve this?

I have an Eizo CG2700X and after upgrading to 24H2, the monitor software Color Navigator cannot load the icc profile into the OS anymore, so the monitor profile will be sRGB (as seen in photoshop). The system settings show the calibrated Eizo profile as monitor profile, but it is not loaded into the OS correctly, and screen colors are dull.

This bug first appeared with the introduction of windows 11, was solved after half a year and now has re-appeared.

An additional complex curiosity, is that things work correctly when connecting the display using the hdmi input, but that limits the display to 8bit color. When connecting using the displayport input, the bug appears. No setting that I can find solves it, so it appears color managment in windows 11 is yet again broken

Thanks for your update.

 

[MrNHB]

I have the win 11 24h2 update. No problems color calibrating with datacolor unit.

 

[Chris Mak]

I have the win 11 24h2 update. No problems color calibrating with datacolor unit.

A few questions:

Do you have the display connected by means of displayport? It seems that hdmi (and perhaps usb-c as well, but that is not common with windows graphics) is working properly, but I get the profile not being loaded into the OS properly when using displayport for the 10bit color option.

Does the monitorprofile show up under photoshop color settings > monitor profile? Or does photoshop show sRGB as the active monitor profile?

As mentioned: this is relapse into a former windows 11 bug.

 

[MrNHB]

I have the win 11 24h2 update. No problems color calibrating with datacolor unit.

A few questions:

Do you have the display connected by means of displayport? It seems that hdmi (and perhaps usb-c as well, but that is not common with windows graphics) is working properly, but I get the profile not being loaded into the OS properly when using displayport for the 10bit color option.

Does the monitorprofile show up under photoshop color settings > monitor profile? Or does photoshop show sRGB as the active monitor profile?

As mentioned: this is relapse into a former windows 11 bug.

Displayport.

 

[BobKnDP]

I checked using Calibrite Profiler. My guess is that the software still isn't identifying the monitor, and it defaults to sRGB. (The monitor is a Philips 21E1N8900, an OLED with a fairly wide gamut.)

I'm staying with the Philips-provided ICC profile until it's fixed. Pfui.

I didn't try DisplayCal/Argyll CMS, but from what Profiler does, I assume that it's unchanged from 26100.2152.

The widely known (but presumably harmless) issues with SFC and Disk Cleanup seem to be gone.

Did you find a way to solve this?

I have an Eizo CG2700X and after upgrading to 24H2, the monitor software Color Navigator cannot load the icc profile into the OS anymore, so the monitor profile will be sRGB (as seen in photoshop). The system settings show the calibrated Eizo profile as monitor profile, but it is not loaded into the OS correctly, and screen colors are dull.

This bug first appeared with the introduction of windows 11, was solved after half a year and now has re-appeared.

An additional complex curiosity, is that things work correctly when connecting the display using the hdmi input, but that limits the display to 8bit color. When connecting using the displayport input, the bug appears. No setting that I can find solves it, so it appears color managment in windows 11 is yet again broken

For me, the culprit was "Automatically manage color for apps"

Right click on the desktop, and choose Display Settings.

Left click on > to the right of color profile, which brings up

Disable "Automatically manage color for apps".

That restored the proper behavior of profiling apps (Calibrite Profiler, DisplayCal/Argyll CMS) for me. I believe that if the monitor's gamut isn't detected, it defaults to sRGB.

 

[Paulmorgan]

I checked using Calibrite Profiler. My guess is that the software still isn't identifying the monitor, and it defaults to sRGB. (The monitor is a Philips 21E1N8900, an OLED with a fairly wide gamut.)

I'm staying with the Philips-provided ICC profile until it's fixed. Pfui.

I didn't try DisplayCal/Argyll CMS, but from what Profiler does, I assume that it's unchanged from 26100.2152.

The widely known (but presumably harmless) issues with SFC and Disk Cleanup seem to be gone.

I`ve just updated to 24H2, had a few mishaps, loss of sound and system display telling me my monitor is 8 bit (so its dropped a couple of bits)

 

[BobKnDP]

I checked using Calibrite Profiler. My guess is that the software still isn't identifying the monitor, and it defaults to sRGB. (The monitor is a Philips 21E1N8900, an OLED with a fairly wide gamut.)

I'm staying with the Philips-provided ICC profile until it's fixed. Pfui.

I didn't try DisplayCal/Argyll CMS, but from what Profiler does, I assume that it's unchanged from 26100.2152.

The widely known (but presumably harmless) issues with SFC and Disk Cleanup seem to be gone.

I`ve just updated to 24H2, had a few mishaps, loss of sound and system display telling me my monitor is 8 bit (so its dropped a couple of bits)

I've read of a bug with some audio drivers, but the thing with the display is odd.

Random suggestions:

Install the monitor's "drivers". (So that Windows identifies it correctly.)

Make sure that you have 10 bit color enabled in the control panel for the GPU drivers.

Best of luck.

 

[Chris Mak]

I checked using Calibrite Profiler. My guess is that the software still isn't identifying the monitor, and it defaults to sRGB. (The monitor is a Philips 21E1N8900, an OLED with a fairly wide gamut.)

I'm staying with the Philips-provided ICC profile until it's fixed. Pfui.

I didn't try DisplayCal/Argyll CMS, but from what Profiler does, I assume that it's unchanged from 26100.2152.

The widely known (but presumably harmless) issues with SFC and Disk Cleanup seem to be gone.

Did you find a way to solve this?

I have an Eizo CG2700X and after upgrading to 24H2, the monitor software Color Navigator cannot load the icc profile into the OS anymore, so the monitor profile will be sRGB (as seen in photoshop). The system settings show the calibrated Eizo profile as monitor profile, but it is not loaded into the OS correctly, and screen colors are dull.

This bug first appeared with the introduction of windows 11, was solved after half a year and now has re-appeared.

An additional complex curiosity, is that things work correctly when connecting the display using the hdmi input, but that limits the display to 8bit color. When connecting using the displayport input, the bug appears. No setting that I can find solves it, so it appears color managment in windows 11 is yet again broken

For me, the culprit was "Automatically manage color for apps"

Right click on the desktop, and choose Display Settings.

Left click on > to the right of color profile, which brings up

Disable "Automatically manage color for apps".

That restored the proper behavior of profiling apps (Calibrite Profiler, DisplayCal/Argyll CMS) for me. I believe that if the monitor's gamut isn't detected, it defaults to sRGB.

This is already disabled. I assume that Eizo color navigator disables any conflicting system settings at install anyhow..

System info lists the correct monitor profile in display settings, but still the profile is not loaded into the OS correctly, and the easy test is simply start up photoshop and look at what it lists as monitor profile, when it has no access to the monitor profile, it will simply show sRGB, or the OS tells it it is sRGB.

Prior versions of color navigator gave an error "unable to apply icc settings", but eizo has removed this pop-up in the latest update, alas without solving the problem. It may be that they cannot solve it and microsoft has to do that at OS level.

As mentioned, this bug happens only with displayport connected monitors.

 

[Paulmorgan]

I checked using Calibrite Profiler. My guess is that the software still isn't identifying the monitor, and it defaults to sRGB. (The monitor is a Philips 21E1N8900, an OLED with a fairly wide gamut.)

I'm staying with the Philips-provided ICC profile until it's fixed. Pfui.

I didn't try DisplayCal/Argyll CMS, but from what Profiler does, I assume that it's unchanged from 26100.2152.

The widely known (but presumably harmless) issues with SFC and Disk Cleanup seem to be gone.

I`ve just updated to 24H2, had a few mishaps, loss of sound and system display telling me my monitor is 8 bit (so its dropped a couple of bits)

I've read of a bug with some audio drivers, but the thing with the display is odd.

The sound problem was easily sorted out, downloaded the latest drivers.

Random suggestions:

Install the monitor's "drivers". (So that Windows identifies it correctly.)

Make sure that you have 10 bit color enabled in the control panel for the GPU drivers.

Best of luck.

I`d also installed the latest studio drivers, this bit of the software has changed, can`t find options for display settings.

This is what I see, looks like its already set.

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Hoka Hey

 

[BobKnDP]

I checked using Calibrite Profiler. My guess is that the software still isn't identifying the monitor, and it defaults to sRGB. (The monitor is a Philips 21E1N8900, an OLED with a fairly wide gamut.)

I'm staying with the Philips-provided ICC profile until it's fixed. Pfui.

I didn't try DisplayCal/Argyll CMS, but from what Profiler does, I assume that it's unchanged from 26100.2152.

The widely known (but presumably harmless) issues with SFC and Disk Cleanup seem to be gone.

I`ve just updated to 24H2, had a few mishaps, loss of sound and system display telling me my monitor is 8 bit (so its dropped a couple of bits)

I've read of a bug with some audio drivers, but the thing with the display is odd.

The sound problem was easily sorted out, downloaded the latest drivers.

Random suggestions:

Install the monitor's "drivers". (So that Windows identifies it correctly.)

Make sure that you have 10 bit color enabled in the control panel for the GPU drivers.

Best of luck.

I`d also installed the latest studio drivers, this bit of the software has changed, can`t find options for display settings.

This is what I see, looks like its already set.

I have no idea what screen that is.

I'm still using the old nVidia Control Panel, in spite of nVidia's intent to deprecate it.

 

[Paulmorgan]

I checked using Calibrite Profiler. My guess is that the software still isn't identifying the monitor, and it defaults to sRGB. (The monitor is a Philips 21E1N8900, an OLED with a fairly wide gamut.)

I'm staying with the Philips-provided ICC profile until it's fixed. Pfui.

I didn't try DisplayCal/Argyll CMS, but from what Profiler does, I assume that it's unchanged from 26100.2152.

The widely known (but presumably harmless) issues with SFC and Disk Cleanup seem to be gone.

I`ve just updated to 24H2, had a few mishaps, loss of sound and system display telling me my monitor is 8 bit (so its dropped a couple of bits)

I've read of a bug with some audio drivers, but the thing with the display is odd.

The sound problem was easily sorted out, downloaded the latest drivers.

Random suggestions:

Install the monitor's "drivers". (So that Windows identifies it correctly.)

Make sure that you have 10 bit color enabled in the control panel for the GPU drivers.

Best of luck.

I`d also installed the latest studio drivers, this bit of the software has changed, can`t find options for display settings.

This is what I see, looks like its already set.

I have no idea what screen that is.

That's in display settings.

I went searching for the old Nvidia control panel, turns out it was still installed on my system.

Sorted it, I think windows was just reporting it incorrectly.

I'm still using the old nVidia Control Panel, in spite of nVidia's intent to deprecate it.

I was surprised Nvidia left the old one in place, it was replaced on the desk top but not in my list of programs.

Thanks for that tip.

--
Hoka Hey

 

[Flycaster]

But, what if "Automatically manage color for apps" is not showing in in the Color Management screen (last screen in your post above)? BTW, everything else is showing. And, although I do have several calibrations showing, it does appear that when selected as default, none of them change the image. Furthermore, sRGB IEC61966-2.1 does appear to be the set default even when trying the other i1Display calibrations as defaults??? I guess my bottom line is how do I get images to change when selecting the difference profiles? Thanks.

 

[BobKnDP]

But, what if "Automatically manage color for apps" is not showing in in the Color Management screen (last screen in your post above)? BTW, everything else is showing. And, although I do have several calibrations showing, it does appear that when selected as default, none of them change the image. Furthermore, sRGB IEC61966-2.1 does appear to be the set default even when trying the other i1Display calibrations as defaults??? I guess my bottom line is how do I get images to change when selecting the difference profiles? Thanks.

What version of Windows do you have? (Run winver to check.)

I have 21600.2605 at the moment.

 

[Flycaster]

I have 21600.2605 at the moment.

I have the same version: 21600.2605