Are you being ignored?

[tim martin]

One thing I always try to do is come up with subject line that will
be helpful to everyone that reads the forum. In most forums
there are quite a few messages each day. So people obviously
can't read every thread in the forum.

The trick to being considerate is not thinking about yourself, but
thinking about others.

A subject line of, "please help me", or "can you answer this one ?"
is not helpful, because if every person looking to be helped or
have their question answered used a subject line like that then
everyone would have to click on every thread to see what the
"subject" is. Hence defeating the pupose of subject lines.

The perfect subject line at least gives some hint as to the subject
of the question or whatever.

Take at least 25 seconds to think about what your subject line
will be, as maybe 400 people will be spending 2 or 3 seconds
looking at it during the next day. Be considerate, let them know
what it is about there, at that level, rather than trying to force
them to click on it to see what it's about.

And lastly, years ago, I heard something awful, but true, on Usenet.
Somebody said the Internet was, for too many people, just "the
new place to say 'gimme' ". I don't think anybody in here is that
way, but it is something to think about. For me, a subject line of
"please help me", or "can you answer this one ?" looks, to me, too
much like a subject line of simply "gimme" ... so I would never use
a subject line like that.

 

[Ted B.47613]

You post history has a gap between 2 months and 11 months. Either
they've been ignoring you for 11 months, or only 2 months. You
haven't posted 'grabber' subjects, so try something that will make
people curious, without being misleading.

It may also be true that they read your posts but find nothing
worth commenting on. I have no idea as I have not read them, being
a Canon DSLR forum regular.

Ted

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--
Hide not your talents, they for use were made. What's a sun-dial in
the shade? Benjamin Franklin



http://svphoto.us My Website

--

Hide not your talents, they for use were made. What's a sun-dial in the shade? Benjamin Franklin



http://svphoto.us My Website

 

[Chrissp]

Oh, no, I don't take it personally at all. I see many posts and many unanswered posts, and I am guilty of "lurking" and not posting, also. I'm just curious to see how others navigate around this wonderful site.

Also, you make a very good point, in that someone will start a post, get help or comments and then disappear, never to be heard from again. If I addressed someone's thread and never heard a word from then again, I wouldn't be angry, tho. I would just assume I helped ..... (hopefully).

I am getting a lot of feedback and some great things to ponder. I also am possibly not involved enough. When I have time, I like to surf this site, but I don't come back here every day and don't post every week. So, of course, how can anybody get to "know" me? I understand that, too.

I'm having fun reading everyone's input and continue to learn and see things from the other side of the coin

I certainly do not feel ignored anymore.

You seem to already understand that this happens in other forums,
chatrooms, etc The forums here are no different. Some folks have
been here years. Others drop by once, and are never heard from
again. The STF is also a really busy forum ( I think it's the 2nd
busiest here at DPR). So threads move to page 2 and further back,
very fast. I find that if I post late at night (on the west coast
of the US), I miss most of the US members. By the time they wake
up, my thread may be on page 2 or 3.

Also, look at the other side of the coin. Many very helpful folks
devote a lot of their time and energy to help complete strangers,
here on the DPR forums. If you check out some threads, you will
find a new person asking a question. Many times, even after
multiple posts giving assitance are received, the original poster
never comes back. Not even to say "thanks", or "you're wrong", or
"why doncha go take a flyin leap at a rollin donut"....LOL
Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Do these members stop helping others,
because of this? Nahhhhhhhhh.

You really shouldn't take it personally. You can read to many
things, that usually aren't true, into it. Like Mike saying, no
comment=poor pic. That may or may not be true. It might have been
one of those "here it is" posts, versus "How can I improve this
one".

Just my opinion, which you may feel free to ignore ;-)

Steve

But hey! Just ignore this post ;-)

Mike

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--
Shooting a hundred, come up with one...
One day I hope to up the odds a bit.
http://mikeb.instantlogic.com

--
http://www.pbase.com/slo2k
'There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though
nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a
miracle' - Albert Einstein

 

[Ulysses]

Chrissp -

I guess maybe this counts as a reply to you. But I'm sure that this isn't the sort of attention that you would like to have obtained in the forums, right?

You've posted something like 50 times in the past 11 months.
Of these, the vast majority most were responded to. You're hardly ignored.

As near as I could tell, you posted five messages that were really about anything at all but which were ignored. Of these, one was an out-of-focus ladybug that you hadn't seen before. Another was a thumbnail size image of an eye. A third was of a website that perhaps you enjoyed more than others did themselves.

You have something like 13 posts about being ignored. Most of these were also responded to, so you've grabbed some attention there.

Some 10 of your posts were mere observations and did not garnish any reply because your message didn't require one. You were saying thanks or making a brief observation yourself. Rarely did I note a question that really engendered a response from other readers.

You haven't done that badly, Chrissp.

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--

Ulysses

 

[Chrissp]

has it really been around 50 postings? yikes, that's a lot (especially for me).

Well, seeing as you put it that way, most likely I was feeling ignored when I really should not have been. Point well taken.

I guess maybe this counts as a reply to you. But I'm sure that this
isn't the sort of attention that you would like to have obtained in
the forums, right?

You've posted something like 50 times in the past 11 months.
Of these, the vast majority most were responded to. You're hardly
ignored.

As near as I could tell, you posted five messages that were really
about anything at all but which were ignored. Of these, one was an
out-of-focus ladybug that you hadn't seen before. Another was a
thumbnail size image of an eye. A third was of a website that
perhaps you enjoyed more than others did themselves.

You have something like 13 posts about being ignored. Most of these
were also responded to, so you've grabbed some attention there.

Some 10 of your posts were mere observations and did not garnish
any reply because your message didn't require one. You were saying
thanks or making a brief observation yourself. Rarely did I note a
question that really engendered a response from other readers.

You haven't done that badly, Chrissp.

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--

Ulysses

 

[Steve Cavigliano]

I am getting a lot of feedback and some great things to ponder. I
also am possibly not involved enough. When I have time, I like to
surf this site, but I don't come back here every day and don't post
every week. So, of course, how can anybody get to "know" me? I
understand that, too.

Chris,

This is a great idea. From what I've seen, @ DPR, you will usually get back what you put in. If you participate more, people feel more comfortable with and you will build relationships. There's nothing wrong with lurking. But, if you really want to feel "involved" you'll not only have to post your own threads. You'll have to participate in other people's threads, also.

Personally, I see it as a kind of payback. I've been helped often and learned so much here, I just try to give a little back

I'm glad you are feeling a little more loved...lol

Steve

--
http://www.pbase.com/slo2k

'There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle' - Albert Einstein

 

[Zephalephelah]

But I don't care. I feel that a lot of people here treat this place like a high-school. There's cliques here & there & if you are nice & wear your smile then people will talk with you whether you know good information or not. And hardly anyone is honest here. It's really pathetic when someone puts up a pic & it stinks & everyone is like, WOW, GOOD, WE LOVE YOUR PICS... gag!

Hey I know my photography isn't on par with some people here, maybe even most people here, but when I post a really good pic, then I get the negativity, not because the picture is bad, but because I don't have the right attitude. I could take a picture of some landscape that was so perfect that if you made it your wallpaper you might feel like you could fall through your computer screen. But because I don't have the high-school-hey-i'm-your-bud-let's-go-to-a-movie-together thing going on, someone with an electron microscope is going to dismantle that picture & say it sucks because of bad interpolation or some other excuse, & because he's an in-person, the other in-people will shake their heads like cows & follow the herd, mooo, you're right, mooo, it's no good.

Then some goof will post a picture of a dog, flower, or child, and it will be all crooked, the composition is off & their lucky they didn't cut off anyone's head. The white balance looks like it came from a 60's poloroid & there's something about it that is so utterly common that you just think blah...

But, hey, that's their garden. That's their dog. That's their kid. You can't be mean. And the in-crowd goes, Awwww.... soooo sweet. When they really should say, eewwwww... so common & quite bad actually. You see people come here for 2 reasons, to learn about cameras & make friends. I don't know about you, but the best friends in my life were not afraid to tell me I was bad or wrong & eventually that made me better at what I wanted to be good at. Hey, manners are important, that's for sure, but you know, so is the truth. You tell someone that they are good & they are not, then you are just being cruel, leaving them in a dream that has no reality. That is being a jerk, not a friend.

I think out of all the people that I've come to know here, I would let maybe 1-3 ever come to my house. Not because I don't trust people here, because most of you are harmless, but because most of you are fake people that can't stop acting like you're in high-school.

So, I'm ignored. But I don't care. I'm still going to tell you the truth. And most of the time, you won't like the truth. But every once in a while, someone does something really right, like perfect right, & you know that when I say that, it counts to them. It counts to them because they know me & they know that I'm not going to be here for my own popularity. If I don't like ballheads or Ansel Adams, I'm going to tell you. I'm not going to nod my head at the hype. I can think for myself. I don't REQUIRE to be popular & I much rather work alone than with others. I'm here for two reasons too, to learn about photography & to be straight with people regardless of how that might make them feel. I'm not mean on purpose, but I'm also not going to tap dance around the issue. If I don't like it & think you are silly or pretentious, I'm gonna tell you. I expect the same treatment. But you know what? People don't like knowing the truth. But you know what? I don't like being a pretty little liar. So I guess we'll just have to deal with each other.

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--
--

There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary & those that don't.

 

[Kevin P Kitching]

Way to go Zeph!

Sounds like you come from Yorkshire (English County, north of London)... If you don't, well get you an honorary membership!

We are pretty much the same here - tell it how it is and to hell with what everyone else thinks. Gets much more respect than just 'going with the flow'.

I too have loads of 'could-have-been-better' images, but I also have some real 'crackers'! Photography is a bit like Gold Prospecting was.... You gotta shift a load of crud to find a nugget. I once had a shot criticised for not being composed properly... maybe they should have been on the rock-face, holding on with one hand, SLR on the other and holding small rucksack in teeth!



Kevin (Yorkshire, UK)

Hey I know my photography isn't on par with some people here, maybe
even most people here, but when I post a really good pic, then I
get the negativity, not because the picture is bad, but because I
don't have the right attitude. I could take a picture of some
landscape that was so perfect that if you made it your wallpaper
you might feel like you could fall through your computer screen.
But because I don't have the
high-school-hey-i'm-your-bud-let's-go-to-a-movie-together thing
going on, someone with an electron microscope is going to dismantle
that picture & say it sucks because of bad interpolation or some
other excuse, & because he's an in-person, the other in-people will
shake their heads like cows & follow the herd, mooo, you're right,
mooo, it's no good.

Then some goof will post a picture of a dog, flower, or child, and
it will be all crooked, the composition is off & their lucky they
didn't cut off anyone's head. The white balance looks like it came
from a 60's poloroid & there's something about it that is so
utterly common that you just think blah...

But, hey, that's their garden. That's their dog. That's their kid.
You can't be mean. And the in-crowd goes, Awwww.... soooo sweet.
When they really should say, eewwwww... so common & quite bad
actually. You see people come here for 2 reasons, to learn about
cameras & make friends. I don't know about you, but the best
friends in my life were not afraid to tell me I was bad or wrong &
eventually that made me better at what I wanted to be good at. Hey,
manners are important, that's for sure, but you know, so is the
truth. You tell someone that they are good & they are not, then you
are just being cruel, leaving them in a dream that has no reality.
That is being a jerk, not a friend.

I think out of all the people that I've come to know here, I would
let maybe 1-3 ever come to my house. Not because I don't trust
people here, because most of you are harmless, but because most of
you are fake people that can't stop acting like you're in
high-school.

So, I'm ignored. But I don't care. I'm still going to tell you the
truth. And most of the time, you won't like the truth. But every
once in a while, someone does something really right, like perfect
right, & you know that when I say that, it counts to them. It
counts to them because they know me & they know that I'm not going
to be here for my own popularity. If I don't like ballheads or
Ansel Adams, I'm going to tell you. I'm not going to nod my head at
the hype. I can think for myself. I don't REQUIRE to be popular & I
much rather work alone than with others. I'm here for two reasons
too, to learn about photography & to be straight with people
regardless of how that might make them feel. I'm not mean on
purpose, but I'm also not going to tap dance around the issue. If I
don't like it & think you are silly or pretentious, I'm gonna tell
you. I expect the same treatment. But you know what? People don't
like knowing the truth. But you know what? I don't like being a
pretty little liar. So I guess we'll just have to deal with each
other.

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--
--
There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand
binary & those that don't.

--
Kevin P Kitching

 

[Chrissp]

Zeph,

I like your forthrightness and honesty and agree with some of what you say. I havne't found people to be liars, but I do see cliques of "friends".

You prove my point that people are ignored!

Hey I know my photography isn't on par with some people here, maybe
even most people here, but when I post a really good pic, then I
get the negativity, not because the picture is bad, but because I
don't have the right attitude. I could take a picture of some
landscape that was so perfect that if you made it your wallpaper
you might feel like you could fall through your computer screen.
But because I don't have the
high-school-hey-i'm-your-bud-let's-go-to-a-movie-together thing
going on, someone with an electron microscope is going to dismantle
that picture & say it sucks because of bad interpolation or some
other excuse, & because he's an in-person, the other in-people will
shake their heads like cows & follow the herd, mooo, you're right,
mooo, it's no good.

Then some goof will post a picture of a dog, flower, or child, and
it will be all crooked, the composition is off & their lucky they
didn't cut off anyone's head. The white balance looks like it came
from a 60's poloroid & there's something about it that is so
utterly common that you just think blah...

But, hey, that's their garden. That's their dog. That's their kid.
You can't be mean. And the in-crowd goes, Awwww.... soooo sweet.
When they really should say, eewwwww... so common & quite bad
actually. You see people come here for 2 reasons, to learn about
cameras & make friends. I don't know about you, but the best
friends in my life were not afraid to tell me I was bad or wrong &
eventually that made me better at what I wanted to be good at. Hey,
manners are important, that's for sure, but you know, so is the
truth. You tell someone that they are good & they are not, then you
are just being cruel, leaving them in a dream that has no reality.
That is being a jerk, not a friend.

I think out of all the people that I've come to know here, I would
let maybe 1-3 ever come to my house. Not because I don't trust
people here, because most of you are harmless, but because most of
you are fake people that can't stop acting like you're in
high-school.

So, I'm ignored. But I don't care. I'm still going to tell you the
truth. And most of the time, you won't like the truth. But every
once in a while, someone does something really right, like perfect
right, & you know that when I say that, it counts to them. It
counts to them because they know me & they know that I'm not going
to be here for my own popularity. If I don't like ballheads or
Ansel Adams, I'm going to tell you. I'm not going to nod my head at
the hype. I can think for myself. I don't REQUIRE to be popular & I
much rather work alone than with others. I'm here for two reasons
too, to learn about photography & to be straight with people
regardless of how that might make them feel. I'm not mean on
purpose, but I'm also not going to tap dance around the issue. If I
don't like it & think you are silly or pretentious, I'm gonna tell
you. I expect the same treatment. But you know what? People don't
like knowing the truth. But you know what? I don't like being a
pretty little liar. So I guess we'll just have to deal with each
other.

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--
--
There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand
binary & those that don't.

 

[Chrissp]

I like your comparing photography to gold prospecting. That's a good one.

By the way, surfed past your site and your pictures are awesome. I'm not even close to being a photographer, but if I could take pix like you, I would be happy and would not care what others say. We take pictures for ouselves first .....

Happy snapping

Sounds like you come from Yorkshire (English County, north of
London)... If you don't, well get you an honorary membership!

We are pretty much the same here - tell it how it is and to hell
with what everyone else thinks. Gets much more respect than just
'going with the flow'.
I too have loads of 'could-have-been-better' images, but I also
have some real 'crackers'! Photography is a bit like Gold
Prospecting was.... You gotta shift a load of crud to find a
nugget. I once had a shot criticised for not being composed
properly... maybe they should have been on the rock-face, holding
on with one hand, SLR on the other and holding small rucksack in
teeth!



Kevin (Yorkshire, UK)

Hey I know my photography isn't on par with some people here, maybe
even most people here, but when I post a really good pic, then I
get the negativity, not because the picture is bad, but because I
don't have the right attitude. I could take a picture of some
landscape that was so perfect that if you made it your wallpaper
you might feel like you could fall through your computer screen.
But because I don't have the
high-school-hey-i'm-your-bud-let's-go-to-a-movie-together thing
going on, someone with an electron microscope is going to dismantle
that picture & say it sucks because of bad interpolation or some
other excuse, & because he's an in-person, the other in-people will
shake their heads like cows & follow the herd, mooo, you're right,
mooo, it's no good.

Then some goof will post a picture of a dog, flower, or child, and
it will be all crooked, the composition is off & their lucky they
didn't cut off anyone's head. The white balance looks like it came
from a 60's poloroid & there's something about it that is so
utterly common that you just think blah...

But, hey, that's their garden. That's their dog. That's their kid.
You can't be mean. And the in-crowd goes, Awwww.... soooo sweet.
When they really should say, eewwwww... so common & quite bad
actually. You see people come here for 2 reasons, to learn about
cameras & make friends. I don't know about you, but the best
friends in my life were not afraid to tell me I was bad or wrong &
eventually that made me better at what I wanted to be good at. Hey,
manners are important, that's for sure, but you know, so is the
truth. You tell someone that they are good & they are not, then you
are just being cruel, leaving them in a dream that has no reality.
That is being a jerk, not a friend.

I think out of all the people that I've come to know here, I would
let maybe 1-3 ever come to my house. Not because I don't trust
people here, because most of you are harmless, but because most of
you are fake people that can't stop acting like you're in
high-school.

So, I'm ignored. But I don't care. I'm still going to tell you the
truth. And most of the time, you won't like the truth. But every
once in a while, someone does something really right, like perfect
right, & you know that when I say that, it counts to them. It
counts to them because they know me & they know that I'm not going
to be here for my own popularity. If I don't like ballheads or
Ansel Adams, I'm going to tell you. I'm not going to nod my head at
the hype. I can think for myself. I don't REQUIRE to be popular & I
much rather work alone than with others. I'm here for two reasons
too, to learn about photography & to be straight with people
regardless of how that might make them feel. I'm not mean on
purpose, but I'm also not going to tap dance around the issue. If I
don't like it & think you are silly or pretentious, I'm gonna tell
you. I expect the same treatment. But you know what? People don't
like knowing the truth. But you know what? I don't like being a
pretty little liar. So I guess we'll just have to deal with each
other.

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--
--
There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand
binary & those that don't.

--
Kevin P Kitching

 

[Kevin P Kitching]

Hi Chris,

Glad you liked the images. They are even better full size! I'm not sure that I like my own work too much and the web-site really needs sorting out. This is a preliminary 'test' before I redesign it.

Thanks & keep posting... There's at least two of us 'in here' who will talk!

Kevin

I like your comparing photography to gold prospecting. That's a
good one.

By the way, surfed past your site and your pictures are awesome.
I'm not even close to being a photographer, but if I could take pix
like you, I would be happy and would not care what others say. We
take pictures for ouselves first .....

Happy snapping

--
Kevin P Kitching

 

[Mark_A]

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.
Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.
Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

Chris ....

Sure I have experienced the same thing.....

However I think I understand a little what is going on...

Is a basic human nature to respond first to people who you feel some connection to .... time is limited .. sometimes you dont get to respond to some peoples posts each time at all ...

However that said .. I post mainly in samples & galleries now and the number of people who come in post some pictures and expect others to comment on them within hours ... is quite amusing ... there is no reason why someone must comment on anything ....

So if they have been there for a while as in there I have now been they will feel some obligation to comment for people who have reurned the favour .. some however do state that they do not feel comfortable commenting and just want to share some pics ... others want to be part of a community .. so they take the actions compatible with this .. i.e not only posting but also commenting on posts by others.

It would be easier if there was a number viewed stat against each thread or post as some may think that their message or image has simply not been looked at but that is rarely the case .... I would guess (phil would know) that there may be at least a 10-1 ratio of lookers to speakers in samples ... perhaps it is the same in Sony ....

Well anyhow .. if you want to join into it in samples come on in I am sure you would be welcome if you join in rather than just post images on its own ..

hope that helps a little .. dont get mad if I miss your first posts ... I dont spend all my time in there anymore .. only an hour or two per day and not always every day either ...

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Mark

As you can see from my comments below ... I try to encourage people to join in as well ... it is not always appreciated

in Samples lets not only post pics & comment on em - how about talking to each other about the pictures .... just an idea

 

[Ulysses]

Exactly. You really have gotten attention. It's just that you're not as prolific as some of the others might be. They get a lot more responses simply because they talk a lot more. I think it's just the math of the situation.

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Ulysses

 

[theblue]

It is true, you post a legitimate post to get some information and nobody answers.

Ypu put a post in with a ridiculous or controversial heading and people jump on the thread.

It doesn't say much for the mentality of some and i believe it comes down to a lot of contributors with a "days of our Life" mentality with little or no knowledge.

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

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[theblue]

I think people should just stop being rude and open their eyes that when somebody posts they want some help or have some information to pass on.

That said I have seen some stupid posts with photos for instance "She's a ???? in our ......" which always seems to get plenty of replies month after month when decent posts go unnoticed.
Personally the "She's" type post makes me want to vomit.
If this guy is love sick than he is in the wrong forum.

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--
Misha

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[nburton]

I'm not from there, but my great grandpappie was! lol....and I think there may be a Yorkshire gene . . . grin

Sounds like you come from Yorkshire (English County, north of
London)... If you don't, well get you an honorary membership!

We are pretty much the same here - tell it how it is and to hell
with what everyone else thinks. Gets much more respect than just
'going with the flow'.
I too have loads of 'could-have-been-better' images, but I also
have some real 'crackers'! Photography is a bit like Gold
Prospecting was.... You gotta shift a load of crud to find a
nugget. I once had a shot criticised for not being composed
properly... maybe they should have been on the rock-face, holding
on with one hand, SLR on the other and holding small rucksack in
teeth!



Kevin (Yorkshire, UK)

Hey I know my photography isn't on par with some people here, maybe
even most people here, but when I post a really good pic, then I
get the negativity, not because the picture is bad, but because I
don't have the right attitude. I could take a picture of some
landscape that was so perfect that if you made it your wallpaper
you might feel like you could fall through your computer screen.
But because I don't have the
high-school-hey-i'm-your-bud-let's-go-to-a-movie-together thing
going on, someone with an electron microscope is going to dismantle
that picture & say it sucks because of bad interpolation or some
other excuse, & because he's an in-person, the other in-people will
shake their heads like cows & follow the herd, mooo, you're right,
mooo, it's no good.

Then some goof will post a picture of a dog, flower, or child, and
it will be all crooked, the composition is off & their lucky they
didn't cut off anyone's head. The white balance looks like it came
from a 60's poloroid & there's something about it that is so
utterly common that you just think blah...

But, hey, that's their garden. That's their dog. That's their kid.
You can't be mean. And the in-crowd goes, Awwww.... soooo sweet.
When they really should say, eewwwww... so common & quite bad
actually. You see people come here for 2 reasons, to learn about
cameras & make friends. I don't know about you, but the best
friends in my life were not afraid to tell me I was bad or wrong &
eventually that made me better at what I wanted to be good at. Hey,
manners are important, that's for sure, but you know, so is the
truth. You tell someone that they are good & they are not, then you
are just being cruel, leaving them in a dream that has no reality.
That is being a jerk, not a friend.

I think out of all the people that I've come to know here, I would
let maybe 1-3 ever come to my house. Not because I don't trust
people here, because most of you are harmless, but because most of
you are fake people that can't stop acting like you're in
high-school.

So, I'm ignored. But I don't care. I'm still going to tell you the
truth. And most of the time, you won't like the truth. But every
once in a while, someone does something really right, like perfect
right, & you know that when I say that, it counts to them. It
counts to them because they know me & they know that I'm not going
to be here for my own popularity. If I don't like ballheads or
Ansel Adams, I'm going to tell you. I'm not going to nod my head at
the hype. I can think for myself. I don't REQUIRE to be popular & I
much rather work alone than with others. I'm here for two reasons
too, to learn about photography & to be straight with people
regardless of how that might make them feel. I'm not mean on
purpose, but I'm also not going to tap dance around the issue. If I
don't like it & think you are silly or pretentious, I'm gonna tell
you. I expect the same treatment. But you know what? People don't
like knowing the truth. But you know what? I don't like being a
pretty little liar. So I guess we'll just have to deal with each
other.

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--
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There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand
binary & those that don't.

--
Kevin P Kitching

--
Nancy Burton . . . if something's worth doing, it's worth doing badly

 

[Mark_A]

Chris ....
Sure I have experienced the same thing.....
However I think I understand a little what is going on...

Chris it is not surprising that you feel that way because as you have only commented / posted yourself ... 53 times since registering 11months ago ... it is more than likely that a large population of the forums in which you post ... think of you as someone who ignores them .....

Do unto others Chris as you would have them do unto you ...

Its a pretty good motto I think ...

Wish I had looked at your profile before posting my last message ..

I probably would not have bothered ....

You chris have not decided yourself yet to take part in the dpreview forums apart from this complaint about them. They (internet forums) are a participatory medium ... if you dont participate you will be ignored .... we cant see people who are only lurking and thats what you have been doing.

No offence intended.

--
Mark

 

[Michael Meissner]

It is true, you post a legitimate post to get some information and
nobody answers.
Ypu put a post in with a ridiculous or controversial heading and
people jump on the thread.
It doesn't say much for the mentality of some and i believe it
comes down to a lot of contributors with a "days of our Life"
mentality with little or no knowledge.

Ummm, nobody pays me to respond to articles, and the same goes for everybody else except for Phil and his staff (and he is only paid in running the site, not answering questions which doesn't bring in much revenue). I have days when I'm busy, away from a computer, or I have connection problems with my ISP. Even when I'm reading the site, I limit myself to maybe 4-5 groups, and don't read every thread in the groups I do read. I pick and chose what threads to read, based on my interest. So if your title says something generic like "Newbie Question" I will usually not read it. If on the other hand your article says something "What kind of flash should I use for my Olympus camera?", I will more likely read it and respond to it.

So tips for getting people to respond to you:

1) Have a title that summerizes what you are asking for, including things like camera model.

2) Provide as much information as possible (ie, don't ask what camera you should buy without saying what type of photography you want to do, and how much you can afford).

3) Monitor the group for awhile to see what types of questions people answer in the group (and if you are lucky, it will have already been answered while you are monitoring it).

4) Post queries in the appropriate group. IMHO, asking should I buy an Olympus or a Canon in either forum will generally get you answers appropriate to that forum (ie, most of the Olympus people will answer that you should buy an Olympus, and the Canon people feel you should buy a Canon). I personally tend not to answer such questions when in the camera specific group, since in general they are off topic.

5) Recognize that nobody may be able to answer your query. If you are asking to compare an Olympus C5050Z to a Canon G5 on some small point, realize that by and large there will be few people who have used both cameras to be able to answer your question.

6) Make an attempt to show that you have already searched for the answer via the search function or with google. If people think you could have found an answer simply with the search function and you didn't, it probably isn't worth their time to respond.

7) Since the site seems to be somewhat US centric and most people presumably read it on their own time rather than at work, do the initial posting around 5-6pm EST on a Monday-Thursday, so that the article is on the front page when a lot of people are reading it. Obviously slow moving groups like say the lighting forum, this isn't as critical as say the Olympus forum, where a thread that hasn't gotten a post in 3 hours will go off of the top page.

 

[Cliff. Johnston]

Chrissp,

It depends upon the subject matter. I've made several posts on the Sony forum - some got ignored, some got some responses, today's is HOT (Who'd a thunk it? - Not I.).

Personally, I don't look at most flower images. I do look at the lovely ladies (Yehuda is a prime poster. His aren't all Hollywood types - a nice slice of life cross-section). Bugs usually get a hit as does lightning/storms. Mundane stuff stays untouched by human hands - at least mine.

So it goes. Keep posting.

Cliff.

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--
Cliff. Johnston

 

[Ted B.47613]

You post history has a gap between 2 months and 11 months. Either
they've been ignoring you for 11 months, or only 2 months. You
haven't posted 'grabber' subjects, so try something that will make
people curious, without being misleading.

It may also be true that they read your posts but find nothing
worth commenting on. I have no idea as I have not read them, being
a Canon DSLR forum regular.

Ted

Okay, I am getting a little ticked that in some forums some
postings get ignored. Yes, this has happened to me MANY times, but
I find that it happens to others, too. Seems like you get into a
certain forum, in my case Sony, and you post messages or pictures
and not a single person will acknowledge or read the message! Yet
others carry on conversations like they are lifelong friends. They
all seem to know one another and are some sort of a clique.

Before you say, give it time, this has been ongoing for me for 7
months.

Have any of you out there experienced/felt the same thing?

--
Hide not your talents, they for use were made. What's a sun-dial in
the shade? Benjamin Franklin



http://svphoto.us My Website

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Hide not your talents, they for use were made. What's a sun-dial in the shade? Benjamin Franklin



http://svphoto.us My Website