Canon Mirrorless EOS M5

[skamaraju]

What is going to be the effect of entry of Big Two into mirrorless world? Is this going to effect Olympus future? Your opinions please..

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[dv312]

Body wise, it's not too bad in terms of specs

The lens offering is still meager, the kit zoom slowish

I'm sure some will jump on this just to experience APSC sized sensor

The system needs to mature a bit in order for it to compete in the mirrorless arena IMHO

At least it's more appealing than the Nikon 1 offering me think which is going nowhere at the moment

Maybe we'll see a surprise from Nikon to counteract the M5 at Photokina?

Cheers,

 

[wolfie]

Body wise, it's not too bad in terms of specs

The lens offering is still meager, the kit zoom slowish

I'm sure some will jump on this just to experience APSC sized sensor

The system needs to mature a bit in order for it to compete in the mirrorless arena IMHO

At least it's more appealing than the Nikon 1 offering me think which is going nowhere at the moment

Maybe we'll see a surprise from Nikon to counteract the M5 at Photokina?

Cheers,

Reminds me of Fuji mirrorless - not much saving in overall size due to APS sensor and lens size.

Personally not a temptation to move away from M43 as it doesn't offer decent WR sealed body and lenses.

 

[Bhima78]

It will sell like crazy. Likely take number one spot on mirrorless sales simply because of that Canon badge. I mean, the warmed over M3 put Canon in the #3 mirrorless sellers and its a terrible camera. This camera looks like Canon's first real attempt at a solid mirrorless offering, so I'm expecting this to shake up the market sector.

 

[wolfie]

It will sell like crazy. Likely take number one spot on mirrorless sales simply because of that Canon badge. I mean, the warmed over M3 put Canon in the #3 mirrorless sellers and its a terrible camera. This camera looks like Canon's first real attempt at a solid mirrorless offering, so I'm expecting this to shake up the market sector.

there will be an adapter so the C users can mount their big old 35 format lenses on it

 

[Bhima78]

It will sell like crazy. Likely take number one spot on mirrorless sales simply because of that Canon badge. I mean, the warmed over M3 put Canon in the #3 mirrorless sellers and its a terrible camera. This camera looks like Canon's first real attempt at a solid mirrorless offering, so I'm expecting this to shake up the market sector.

there will be an adapter so the C users can mount their big old 35 format lenses on it

 

[averagejoe576]

Not an entry for Canon, just a improvement over existing EOSM cameras (thought adimittely it look as they're fixing a big weak spot, AF performance). Is there a Nikon rumor? I heard a Canon FF mirrorless rumor, but guessing that turned out to be the m5?

The best thing EOS-M this camera is that you can get a 1st party EF adapter for $99, but its an APC-C sensor. People with a big Canon FF lens collection would be much better off with a used A7rii + MB Aapter or A6300 + MB SpeedBooster. Now if Canon cameout with their on EF speedbooster for $200 that'd be really interesting. Even if they had to loose money off the thing it might be justifiable to increase sales of EOS-M cameras.

However, I dont expect much better than average performance/features from this camera, but who knows, if they knock it out of the park and show they are going to be continuing developing the system maybe it will become a real contender.

 

[Messier Object]

Body wise, it's not too bad in terms of specs

The lens offering is still meager, the kit zoom slowish

I'm sure some will jump on this just to experience APSC sized sensor

The system needs to mature a bit in order for it to compete in the mirrorless arena IMHO

At least it's more appealing than the Nikon 1 offering me think which is going nowhere at the moment

Maybe we'll see a surprise from Nikon to counteract the M5 at Photokina?

Cheers,

Reminds me of Fuji mirrorless - not much saving in overall size due to APS sensor and lens size.

why must a mirrorless system be small ?

As a Canon user (as well as Olympus 4/3) I have zero interest in a new Canon mirrorless format if I cannot natively use my EF lenses. I would be delighted if Canon would, when the technology is ready, simply remove the mirror and install an EVF on their existing sized APS-C and FF bodies - provided that the AF performance is good enough

And Micro 4/3 will be better served by market share if the 2 big players (Nikon and Canon) do not replace their line of DSLRs with mirrorless cameras that are compact and lightweight. That way m.43 retains its size difference to differentiate it in the market.

Peter

Personally not a temptation to move away from M43 as it doesn't offer decent WR sealed body and lenses.

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[Jorginho]

But....the problem for APS-c sensors is and Always will be that now the body is smaller but the lenses never will be. Well that is a problem for those who want smaller size and weight allround. But it seems like a solid product and Cannonhas a huge amount of loyal customers some of them will consideer mirrorles NOW since it is a Canon. Same goes for Nikon if they get serious about their 1.7 crop mirrorles..

 

[MinAZ]

The M has always been (and still is) based on a different philosophy. Canon looks at the M as a travel companion and/or secondary camera to a DSLR. You can see this from the set of features included in the M line so far. Olympus and Panasonic look at mirrorless as their flagship. Olympus cameras are more full-featured whether that is a good thing or not (there is a lot to be said for simplicity too).

 

[wolfie]

I can the headline now at Rockwell.com !!

 

[Jorginho]

Body wise, it's not too bad in terms of specs

The lens offering is still meager, the kit zoom slowish

I'm sure some will jump on this just to experience APSC sized sensor

The system needs to mature a bit in order for it to compete in the mirrorless arena IMHO

At least it's more appealing than the Nikon 1 offering me think which is going nowhere at the moment

Maybe we'll see a surprise from Nikon to counteract the M5 at Photokina?

Cheers,

Reminds me of Fuji mirrorless - not much saving in overall size due to APS sensor and lens size.

why must a mirrorless system be small ?

Well it is the raison d'etre for mirrorless. What else did it have over DSLRs back in 2008? Mostly a lot fo downsides.

As a Canon user (as well as Olympus 4/3) I have zero interest in a new Canon mirrorless format if I cannot natively use my EF lenses. I would be delighted if Canon would, when the technology is ready, simply remove the mirror and install an EVF on their existing sized APS-C and FF bodies - provided that the AF performance is good enough

Well that is you and you are surely not alone. But what advantage does mirrorless get you a really if it is not comparable in performance but smaller and much easier to carry. This cam, M5, does not even seem to have 4K video so why not just stick to a 80D or so?

And Micro 4/3 will be better served by market share if the 2 big players (Nikon and Canon) do not replace their line of DSLRs with mirrorless cameras that are compact and lightweight. That way m.43 retains its size difference to differentiate it in the market.

Peter

For the manufactueres that is fine, but for me as a user I welcome a Nikon 1.7 series or something even closer to mFTs. I am seriously invested in mFTs but I am not married to it and Oly and Panny are just manufacturers like all other who want my money. If Nikon provides me a significantly better platform for my money I can switch. So please: get me some brands that offer some serious competition. They will for sure, but they wopuld be more so if their crop factor was anywhere between 1.8 and 2.3 I'd say.

If is is 1.4 to 1.6 crop than Fuji and Sony are getting more competition which to my mind is good for their current respective users especially in the light that SOny Esystem did have a new lens for I think years now...A dedicated APC-c user could seriously consider jumping ship and again: so could we if we miss something in mFT that a new 1.8-2.2 crop cam get us.

 

[Jorginho]

It will sell like crazy. Likely take number one spot on mirrorless sales simply because of that Canon badge. I mean, the warmed over M3 put Canon in the #3 mirrorless sellers and its a terrible camera. This camera looks like Canon's first real attempt at a solid mirrorless offering, so I'm expecting this to shake up the market sector.

there will be an adapter so the C users can mount their big old 35 format lenses on it

 

[Pixnat2]

With the Fuji XPro2, X-T2, X-A3 and now the EOS-M5, APS-C mirrorless is rising the bar.

The IQ gap with m4/3 is widening.

Fuji has a wonderful lens lineup, Canon not yet, but the have some little jewels that are cheap and optically awesome (22mm , 11-22mm).

The bar is high for m4/3. They'd better take their thumbs off and work on solutions to provide better IQ. If they succeed, m4/3 will remain the best mirrorless system. If not...

 

[Jorginho]

Not an entry for Canon, just a improvement over existing EOSM cameras (thought adimittely it look as they're fixing a big weak spot, AF performance). Is there a Nikon rumor? I heard a Canon FF mirrorless rumor, but guessing that turned out to be the m5?

The best thing EOS-M this camera is that you can get a 1st party EF adapter for $99, but its an APC-C sensor. People with a big Canon FF lens collection would be much better off with a used A7rii + MB Aapter or A6300 + MB SpeedBooster. Now if Canon cameout with their on EF speedbooster for $200 that'd be really interesting. Even if they had to loose money off the thing it might be justifiable to increase sales of EOS-M cameras.

However, I dont expect much better than average performance/features from this camera, but who knows, if they knock it out of the park and show they are going to be continuing developing the system maybe it will become a real contender.

The problem is that they have a seriously huge DSLR user base and in contrast with Olympus (much smaller userbase) a switch to mirrorless will not be to the liking of a whole lot of existing users, So where Oly could leave it after E5 Canon and Nikon cannot just leave it after 80D or D500.

I think their best option, in order not to have to invest in a full fledged DLSR, is to drop their low budget DSLR lines first and than gradually work up. Gradually stopping their DSLR lenses and invest in mirrorless versions.

A scenarion like the SOny translucent mirrorseries....but we can see at the lack of development in the current A-series how difficult and expensive it is to keep two systems developping....

Now if they also want to go into FF that is some serious investment on top of that.

Fuji and Panasonic and OLy had a huge advantage with a dwindeling DSLR line: they were not going to disappoint a huge numbers of users. The others will have to make a choice that in the shortterm probably is not getting them much applause.

 

[Chris R-UK]

If the dual pixel PDAF sensor allows existing Canon lenses with an adapter to focus as fast as on a DSLR then this is going to be a very serious competitor indeed.

It will be interesting to see how it is priced and whether it is intended to be a replacement for Canon's entry level DSLRs or as a small second camera body for DSLR owners.

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[Wu Jiaqiu]

It will sell like crazy. Likely take number one spot on mirrorless sales simply because of that Canon badge. I mean, the warmed over M3 put Canon in the #3 mirrorless sellers and its a terrible camera. This camera looks like Canon's first real attempt at a solid mirrorless offering, so I'm expecting this to shake up the market sector.

there will be an adapter so the C users can mount their big old 35 format lenses on it

 

[nzmacro]

Competition is good for all of us don't you think. Hopefully they will do better over time and so will m4/3.

Besides which, if you can't mount Oly and Panasonic lenses on them, why are you worried ;-)

Danny.

 

[yahoo2u]

What is going to be the effect of entry of Big Two into mirrorless world? Is this going to effect Olympus future? Your opinions please..

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[Astrotripper]

Looks like it might be something decent this time. But even if those specs are true, it will still be miles behind MFT flagships.

Whether this affects MFT in any way will have more to do with marketing and pricing than technical merits. It will take Canon years to take EOS-M to the place MFT is now. Which absolutely does not mean it cannot be a success for Canon. Those are unrelated things.

And those that think that a 1.25 crop factor of MFT somehow makes a big difference in image quality are kidding themselves.