Think this is useful for m4/3 users - It is about IS OIS

[Aleo Veuliah]

• This is an article by Thom Hogan, but I think it may be applied to all image stabilization systems

• Where you read VR, translate to IS for Olympus and for OIS on Panasonic Lumix

• http://www.bythom.com/nikon-vr.htm

• I have to say that from my experience I agree with rule one, I rarely turn on OIS (IS), only use it on, when I really need it

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org

 

[dgrogers]

I refuse to read anything written by him.

• This is an article by Thom Hogan, but I think it may be applied to all image stabilization systems

• Where you read VR, translate to IS for Olympus and for OIS on Panasonic Lumix

• http://www.bythom.com/nikon-vr.htm

• I have to say that from my experience I agree with rule one, I rarely turn on OIS (IS), only use it on, when I really need it

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org

--
Completely infatuated with the "OMG"

 

[jeffharris]

• This is an article by Thom Hogan, but I think it may be applied to all image stabilization systems

• Where you read VR, translate to IS for Olympus and for OIS on Panasonic Lumix

• http://www.bythom.com/nikon-vr.htm

• I have to say that from my experience I agree with rule one, I rarely turn on OIS (IS), only use it on, when I really need it

I must say that OIS has screwed up more photos than it's helped. I use it only when absolutely necessary.

 

[krisdalmine]

I refuse to read anything written by him.

Me too

 

[Aleo Veuliah]

• This is an article by Thom Hogan, but I think it may be applied to all image stabilization systems

• Where you read VR, translate to IS for Olympus and for OIS on Panasonic Lumix

• http://www.bythom.com/nikon-vr.htm

• I have to say that from my experience I agree with rule one, I rarely turn on OIS (IS), only use it on, when I really need it

I must say that OIS has screwed up more photos than it's helped. I use it only when absolutely necessary.

I don't let that to happen, I turn it off mostly, as I said

But it is a good article, and there are some reasons why any IS can not help in some situations

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org

 

[Aleo Veuliah]

I refuse to read anything written by him.

Why ?

I do not consider him the owner of the truth but sometimes he says somethings good to know

Or you don't like him because he is mainly a Nikon guy ?

• This is an article by Thom Hogan, but I think it may be applied to all image stabilization systems

• Where you read VR, translate to IS for Olympus and for OIS on Panasonic Lumix

• http://www.bythom.com/nikon-vr.htm

• I have to say that from my experience I agree with rule one, I rarely turn on OIS (IS), only use it on, when I really need it

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org

--
Completely infatuated with the "OMG"

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org

 

[phototransformations]

Thanks for this link. I like Thom's thoughtful approach to things and will think about his comments on VR next time I'm shooting anything significant. In my own limited testing I have not seen this VR-based image degradation with the Panasonic OIS (except in the 45-175), but I do remember that it was more likely to be problematic with my Nikon VR lenses.

• This is an article by Thom Hogan, but I think it may be applied to all image stabilization systems

• Where you read VR, translate to IS for Olympus and for OIS on Panasonic Lumix

• http://www.bythom.com/nikon-vr.htm

• I have to say that from my experience I agree with rule one, I rarely turn on OIS (IS), only use it on, when I really need it

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org

 

[MichaelKJ]

Thom used to post on DPR, including here, but stopped doing so some time ago. I assume this was because got tired of endless bashing by people who preferred calling him names rather than engaging him in a rational debate.

Thom has never been afraid to criticize Nikon, but those who don't like him simply choose to ignore that.

His new sansmirror.com site has some excellent articles (IMO). He has a clear preference for mFT, including being partial to Oly bodies, but also does a good job of pointing out the strengths and weaknesses of several brands.

 

[Tim in upstate NY]

Thom used to post on DPR, including here, but stopped doing so some time ago. I assume this was because got tired of endless bashing by people who preferred calling him names rather than engaging him in a rational debate.

Thom has never been afraid to criticize Nikon, but those who don't like him simply choose to ignore that.

His new sansmirror.com site has some excellent articles (IMO). He has a clear preference for mFT, including being partial to Oly bodies, but also does a good job of pointing out the strengths and weaknesses of several brands.

+1. Thom is a good resource for us m4/3 users who doesn't deserve some of the hostility that's often seen in these forums. I've read through his articles at Sansmirror and think they're quite good. I don't always agree with everything he says but respect his expertise and working knowledge of the equipment.

 

[Tim in upstate NY]

Thanks for this link. I like Thom's thoughtful approach to things and will think about his comments on VR next time I'm shooting anything significant. In my own limited testing I have not seen this VR-based image degradation with the Panasonic OIS (except in the 45-175), but I do remember that it was more likely to be problematic with my Nikon VR lenses.

. . . I wish there was a more direct method of turning the IBIS on and off with Oly cameras. The SCP works OK but it would really nice if the IBIS on/off function could be assigned to one of the buttons. The perfect solution for me would be a on/off IBIS switch just like Panny used to have on their OIS lenses.

 

[MAubrey]

Well, that's incredibly ridiculous.
--
--Mike

 

[Timur Born]

I do wonder though how much the article relates to Olympus sensor based IS? It surely makes a difference whether an optical element in the middle of the lens is moves or the sensor at the end of the end?!

 

[Aleo Veuliah]

Thom used to post on DPR, including here, but stopped doing so some time ago. I assume this was because got tired of endless bashing by people who preferred calling him names rather than engaging him in a rational debate.

Thom has never been afraid to criticize Nikon, but those who don't like him simply choose to ignore that.

His new sansmirror.com site has some excellent articles (IMO). He has a clear preference for mFT, including being partial to Oly bodies, but also does a good job of pointing out the strengths and weaknesses of several brands.

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org

 

[nxp3]

I agree. I think the oly ibis solution is the best and less prone to messing up. It doesn't involve as many sensitive parts as the in lens kind. So this article might not apply to IBIS very well. People say they turn on IS only when necessary. Who has time to do that easily except for panasonic lens with built in IS button, all others require you to go into menu, which takes too much time. For most people it's probably better leave it on. That's one of the main reasons I'm getting a em5.
--
-bokehmokehshmokeh-

 

[Aleo Veuliah]

Thom used to post on DPR, including here, but stopped doing so some time ago. I assume this was because got tired of endless bashing by people who preferred calling him names rather than engaging him in a rational debate.

Thom has never been afraid to criticize Nikon, but those who don't like him simply choose to ignore that.

His new sansmirror.com site has some excellent articles (IMO). He has a clear preference for mFT, including being partial to Oly bodies, but also does a good job of pointing out the strengths and weaknesses of several brands.

+1. Thom is a good resource for us m4/3 users who doesn't deserve some of the hostility that's often seen in these forums. I've read through his articles at Sansmirror and think they're quite good. I don't always agree with everything he says but respect his expertise and working knowledge of the equipment.

Yes I agree, thank you for your opinion, have to look at the sansmirror

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org

 

[Anders W]

• This is an article by Thom Hogan, but I think it may be applied to all image stabilization systems

• Where you read VR, translate to IS for Olympus and for OIS on Panasonic Lumix

• http://www.bythom.com/nikon-vr.htm

• I have to say that from my experience I agree with rule one, I rarely turn on OIS (IS), only use it on, when I really need it

I read that article already long ago, about the time it appeared. All I can say, is that it does not match my own experiences with the two particular stabilization systems I am familiar with: SR as implemented on the Pentax K100D and OIS as implemented on the Panasonic 14-45, 45-200, and 100-300. In none of these cases have I yet seen any ill effects of keeping stabilization enabled even on shots where I might have done without. Consequently, the only case in which I turn stabilization off is when working off a tripod.

 

[amipal]

Thanks for sharing the link, very interesting and informative. I'd never considered that Mega OIS might be having negative effects on image quality, though I have noticed that some of my longer shots with the Panasonic 14-140mm can contain excessive blur with it switched on.

 

[Aleo Veuliah]

Thanks for this link. I like Thom's thoughtful approach to things and will think about his comments on VR next time I'm shooting anything significant. In my own limited testing I have not seen this VR-based image degradation with the Panasonic OIS (except in the 45-175), but I do remember that it was more likely to be problematic with my Nikon VR lenses.

Hope you are right, anyway I only use OIS when is really needed, glad to hear that is not so problematic with Panasonic

• This is an article by Thom Hogan, but I think it may be applied to all image stabilization systems

• Where you read VR, translate to IS for Olympus and for OIS on Panasonic Lumix

• http://www.bythom.com/nikon-vr.htm

• I have to say that from my experience I agree with rule one, I rarely turn on OIS (IS), only use it on, when I really need it

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org

 

[Aleo Veuliah]

• This is an article by Thom Hogan, but I think it may be applied to all image stabilization systems

• Where you read VR, translate to IS for Olympus and for OIS on Panasonic Lumix

• http://www.bythom.com/nikon-vr.htm

• I have to say that from my experience I agree with rule one, I rarely turn on OIS (IS), only use it on, when I really need it

I read that article already long ago, about the time it appeared. All I can say, is that it does not match my own experiences with the two particular stabilization systems I am familiar with: SR as implemented on the Pentax K100D and OIS as implemented on the Panasonic 14-45, 45-200, and 100-300. In none of these cases have I yet seen any ill effects of keeping stabilization enabled even on shots where I might have done without. Consequently, the only case in which I turn stabilization off is when working off a tripod.

It is difficult to judge when we should turn it off and at what speeds, the article is only a guide, and in case of doubts if I am using a shutter speed that can prevent any blur I decide to turn the OIS off, my logic is if it is not needed at high shutter speeds why leave it on

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org

 

[Aleo Veuliah]

Thanks for this link. I like Thom's thoughtful approach to things and will think about his comments on VR next time I'm shooting anything significant. In my own limited testing I have not seen this VR-based image degradation with the Panasonic OIS (except in the 45-175), but I do remember that it was more likely to be problematic with my Nikon VR lenses.

. . . I wish there was a more direct method of turning the IBIS on and off with Oly cameras. The SCP works OK but it would really nice if the IBIS on/off function could be assigned to one of the buttons. The perfect solution for me would be a on/off IBIS switch just like Panny used to have on their OIS lenses.

No doubt, I am glad that I still use lenses that have the button to turn off an on, hope Panasonic will think on this and at least on some models don't do that via the menus

--
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.

God is the tangential point between zero and infinity.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

God always take the simplest way.

• http://aleo-photo.org

• http://blog.aleo-photo.org