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You'll find it a very useful read and Michael does a good job assessing where the SD1 sits in the scheme of things...oh and Sigma provided a consultant to teach him how to use it. Guess who it was...
SandyF said:
DMillier said:
I've read the draft that accidentally escaped yesterday. He compares the SD1 to a range of cameras and that comparison will help you form a very good impression of where the SD1 is placed quality wise.
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gee, I hope it's based on image quality rather than where the dials are and 'features' or seconds to write to card.

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SandyF said:
AdamT said:
I Still have to say that I've not seen anything yet from the camera which would make me want to spend more than the price of a Nikon D300S or a canon 7D - in fact given the flat and often pretty lifeless colour from the thing so far (and the odd green business) ,
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rather my feeling too on most examples we've seen, and apparently SPP5 still has issues to be sorted out
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I'd have to have a hard think whether I'd even swap my SD15 for one let alone pay around £1000 ..
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I'd buy the SD1 though in an instant for US$2000 just for the experimental interest of it. $2500 I'd have to consider long and hard and see more landscape output.

My SD14 produces nice output, ie I know how to get good color, it has no particular 'quirks' such as lockups or errors. What I desire in another camera is more RESOLUTION. The only photos I've seen I really envy are MF.... such as Pentax 645D but I'm not going there for that cost! I don't want to go Canon/Nikon. I don't think the Pentax K-5 would get me much more resolution than at present with SD14 and Pentax K20D. So for the present, I use the DSLRs that I have. I did buy another Sigma (non OS) 17-70mm in Pentax mount, for our San Francisco-Monterey-Carmel California trip next month. It should arrive today, so soon more garden/park 'tests.' LOL
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Hi Mike,

I am saving my meager income for it...but as a die hard Foveon/Sigma my response may be skewed.
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As someone who is a NEX 3 owner (cost £180) and a panny G1 owner (cost £150) I have become a big convert of compact cameras.

The NEX, because it is so small (smaller than a DP1) that even without any native lenses, it makes an excellent compact solution for tripod based landscapes.

The G1 because it is small enough that carrying it around my neck all day is no problem at all and the viewfinder is pretty good despite being a EVF.

If the rumoured NEX 7 with a 24MP sensor based on the same kind of tech used in the Pentax K5/Nikon D7000 comes to fruition, and we get a compact Sony with huge resolution and a state of the art viewfinder, it could replace the NEX 3 and the G1 providing a one camera does everything solution. I'm hopeful that my contax G zeiss lenses will work on the nex without having to buy another expensive adaptor (I'm awaiting a cheap m4/3-NEX adaptor).

Even if the SD1 image quality is still quite a bit better, it won't be that much better and the sacrifice would be worth it in my mind for the weight and size saving.

I'd still keep the SD9 and 14, of course, but I'd get rid of everything else.

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Nobody has an unbiased view.

But a very experienced photographer like MR who knows what he likes is a valuable data point. Especially as it is one of his longer reviews, not one of those 30 sec snap judgements at a trade show where he occasionally drops a clanger...

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I'm still contemplating getting a Leica... If only it were half the price. It's so so so expensive.

I'd never ever buy the Sigma SD1 at that hilariously silly price. Even at half that price. Or a third. Sigma has proven that they can't be trusted to build a real system. Quality lenses, a wide range of lenses, and a professional remote flash system, are just a few examples of why ones money would be better spent on something else.

The SD1 was too big a step. Too many megapixels. Introducing noise and a crazy introductory price point.

Olympus also lost all my trust when they didn't release a follow-up pro camera after the E-1 for YEARS. Imagine being a pro, having bought into that system, with expensive lenses and all, and a 5MP bayer sensor in it. That's just so unacceptable practice from a company who marketed the E-1 and their pro system, as... a pro system... only to abandon it. Like pi* ing in the face of their pro customers.
 
Also have the NEX (5). A lot to like about the camera, but I see it as a supplement to a DSLR, not a replacement.
 
Hi, Probably not, way to much money and that is just the camera. The flash fiasco going on, etc.. I've always liked Sigma and just wish they would get it together.
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olivernielsen said:
Ah Ole, you have plenty years left - but maybe the Nikon is a better fishing rod;-)
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Thanks Oliver :-) Maybe it's right about the Nikon. I definitely know that the situations I like to photograph change so fast, that the camera has to be very fast too. Like my daughter sitting with her newborn son... you can't just wait for the perfect expression because it's gone when you press the shutter. You have to be 'in the situation' and the camera has to respond immidiately as a part of you. The Nikon D40 isn't fast enough for me, so ... but the SD10 set at medium resolution with the 50mm f2.8 actually was and the D40 might be at MR too...I might want to do that again. It's fun when photographing actually expands your perception and understanding of a situation because you see more than you are normally aware of...

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olivernielsen said:
I'd never ever buy the Sigma SD1 at that hilariously silly price. Even at half that price. Or a third. Sigma has proven that they can't be trusted to build a real system. Quality lenses, a wide range of lenses, and a professional remote flash system, are just a few examples of why ones money would be better spent on something else.
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I'll give you the flash system but Sigma is doing really well on the other aspects you mentioned.
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The SD1 was too big a step. Too many megapixels. Introducing noise and a crazy introductory price point.

Olympus also lost all my trust when they didn't release a follow-up pro camera after the E-1 for YEARS. Imagine being a pro, having bought into that system, with expensive lenses and all, and a 5MP bayer sensor in it. That's just so unacceptable practice from a company who marketed the E-1 and their pro system, as... a pro system... only to abandon it. Like pi* ing in the face of their pro customers.
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To me it seems odd to complain about what Sigma is doing, and then also complain about Oly... I mean, isn't Sigma's approach better? That they have taken a huge leap and are trying to land the jump, rather than taking years and years to move?

Even if Sigma does't lower the SD-1 price, you can still see somewhat smaller but still very high resolution imagers working backwards into the other existing products. Currently it's debatable if you'd want other small compacts over a DP-x camera, but with a slightly smaller version of the new sensor in a DP camera combined with the lenses they already have, there would be nothing that could touch it. Even if you pushed the limits of photosite shrinkage into a GF1 or X100, how would the lenses on those system fare?

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