Canons Digital 300V ? 1000.00 dollars

[Steven]

The release mentioned a second new digital SLR known as the EOS 300V, also due for unveiling at Photokina. According to Westfall, this model is identical to the Canon Rebel Ti, which was announced in the States on August 27. Canon expects that this camera, likely to be priced at an astoundingly low $1000, will "become the world's number-one selling SLR camera."

Whats this I dont understand? This was supposed to be a film Camera but at 1000 dollars it cant be.
--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

 

[DavidP #28649]

PCMag screwed up. It's a film SLR.

The release mentioned a second new digital SLR known as the EOS
300V, also due for unveiling at Photokina. According to Westfall,
this model is identical to the Canon Rebel Ti, which was announced
in the States on August 27. Canon expects that this camera, likely
to be priced at an astoundingly low $1000, will "become the world's
number-one selling SLR camera."

Whats this I dont understand? This was supposed to be a film Camera
but at 1000 dollars it cant be.
--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

 

[BayAreaFoto.com]

Here is the spec for the EOS 300V (film SLR)
http://www.eos-magazine.com/System_EOS300Vspec.html

Shutter speeds: 1/2000 second to 30 seconds (in 1/2-step increments), bulb; flash synchronization at 1/90 second

"an astoungdingly low $1000" for the EOS 300V? WTF!!@#

PCMag is definitely smoking something for printing that statement.

and Canon is in the same boat if they try to sell the EOS 300V at that price and think "... is predicted to become the world’s number 1 selling SLR camera."

For $1000, I can buy a new EOS 3, or a little more to buy a used EOS 1V.
The spec on the EOS 300V is more like an updated Rebel.

The release mentioned a second new digital SLR known as the EOS
300V, also due for unveiling at Photokina. According to Westfall,
this model is identical to the Canon Rebel Ti, which was announced
in the States on August 27. Canon expects that this camera, likely
to be priced at an astoundingly low $1000, will "become the world's
number-one selling SLR camera."

Whats this I dont understand? This was supposed to be a film Camera
but at 1000 dollars it cant be.
--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

--
TN

http://www.photovideodisc.com

 

[Chris Maddock]

For $1000, I can buy a new EOS 3, or a little more to buy a used
EOS 1V.
The spec on the EOS 300V is more like an updated Rebel.

Unless there is a third Canon due out, this is the EOS300V and it is indeed a Rebel2000/EOS300 Mk2.

$1000, if that price is correct, is surely a kit price with at least one of the new lenses chucked in. The EOS magazine site mentions kits with one of the new lenses and a 75-300, although that isn't anywhere near $1000.

My other thought is - what the heck does a PC mag know about cameras?

KRs
Chris

 

[Valliesto Bailey]

Everything they have to say regarding the 300V is just simply flat wrong. I think they got caught up in the 1Ds and started seeing digital everywhere.

I doubt Canon will price this thing anywhere near $1000USD.

Shutter speeds: 1/2000 second to 30 seconds (in 1/2-step
increments), bulb; flash synchronization at 1/90 second

"an astoungdingly low $1000" for the EOS 300V? WTF!!@#

PCMag is definitely smoking something for printing that statement.
and Canon is in the same boat if they try to sell the EOS 300V at
that price and think "... is predicted to become the world’s number
1 selling SLR camera."

For $1000, I can buy a new EOS 3, or a little more to buy a used
EOS 1V.
The spec on the EOS 300V is more like an updated Rebel.

The release mentioned a second new digital SLR known as the EOS
300V, also due for unveiling at Photokina. According to Westfall,
this model is identical to the Canon Rebel Ti, which was announced
in the States on August 27. Canon expects that this camera, likely
to be priced at an astoundingly low $1000, will "become the world's
number-one selling SLR camera."

Whats this I dont understand? This was supposed to be a film Camera
but at 1000 dollars it cant be.
--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

--
The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons
http://thewilkinsons.crosswinds.net
Photography -- just another word for compromise

--
TN

http://www.photovideodisc.com

--
Valliesto
'A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five
minutes longer.'

• R.W. Emerson

 

[Valliesto Bailey]

Well that is what it looks like this time.

For $1000, I can buy a new EOS 3, or a little more to buy a used
EOS 1V.
The spec on the EOS 300V is more like an updated Rebel.

Unless there is a third Canon due out, this is the EOS300V and it
is indeed a Rebel2000/EOS300 Mk2.

$1000, if that price is correct, is surely a kit price with at
least one of the new lenses chucked in. The EOS magazine site
mentions kits with one of the new lenses and a 75-300, although
that isn't anywhere near $1000.

My other thought is - what the heck does a PC mag know about cameras?

KRs
Chris

--
Valliesto
'A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five
minutes longer.'

• R.W. Emerson

 

[John Foote]

Did PC-Mag just make this $1K figure up? NOT likely. Not if they actually talked to Chuck Westphal. If it's a film cam, it sure ain't going to be the 'worlds best seller' at $1K, but as a digital? It undoubtably WOULD be the worlds best selling DSLR at that price point. Why shouldn't Canon introduce a $1K DSLR @ say...3.5MP? $1K is a lot of money for a small gizmo, a LOT of money. Two pretty nice camcorders, for example. PLUS its sells a pile of other, equally expensive small gizmos, like lenses and flashes. If true, I wouldn't want to Nikon or Minolta sitting on piles of equally priced pointy shoots, that's for darn sure.

 

[Steven]

could there be a digital SLR in there but they just got the 300V name put in by mistake. I know there was a lot of talk about a new Digital Rebel in the works for 1000.00. Could there really be one?

--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

 

[Julio Gonzalez]

This has been discussed before. If you want to see a picture of the 300v and try to read some french, go to http://www.photim.com/Infos/UneInfo.asp?N=654 .

Notice no LCD screen, and if you look carefully, there's what appears to be a slide switch to open the back cover to install the film cartridge.

Julio

The release mentioned a second new digital SLR known as the EOS
300V, also due for unveiling at Photokina. According to Westfall,
this model is identical to the Canon Rebel Ti, which was announced
in the States on August 27. Canon expects that this camera, likely
to be priced at an astoundingly low $1000, will "become the world's
number-one selling SLR camera."

Whats this I dont understand? This was supposed to be a film Camera
but at 1000 dollars it cant be.
--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

 

[BayAreaFoto.com]

Directly from Canon.de
http://www.canon.de/presse/infos/fot/300v

I don't read German, but it's pretty easy to make out.

EOS 300V Gehäuse 319,- Euro (assume body only)
EOS 300V QD Gehäuse 369,- Euro (with Date)
EOS 300V mit EF 28-90 399,- Euro (body and a cheap lens)

To be release around mid September 2002.

The used price of a D30 would give any new DSLR within the $1K range a hard time selling. Why? Because the chances of a new $1K MSRP DSLR outperforming the D30 is slim to none. Just ask one question, if they introduce a $1K DSLR, what sensor would it have?

Anything less than 3.3Mp, people would laugh at it. If it's the same as the D30 then it's like re-inventing a camera they already have. Anything higher than that and it's competing with the D60.

But again, introducing a new "film" camera in this day and age is a business decision that I don't understand either, so anything is possible.

could there be a digital SLR in there but they just got the 300V
name put in by mistake. I know there was a lot of talk about a new
Digital Rebel in the works for 1000.00. Could there really be one?

--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

--
TN

http://www.photovideodisc.com

 

[Harlod]

The list price of the EOS3 is $1500 even though it sells for half that retail.

The release mentioned a second new digital SLR known as the EOS
300V, also due for unveiling at Photokina. According to Westfall,
this model is identical to the Canon Rebel Ti, which was announced
in the States on August 27. Canon expects that this camera, likely
to be priced at an astoundingly low $1000, will "become the world's
number-one selling SLR camera."

Whats this I dont understand? This was supposed to be a film Camera
but at 1000 dollars it cant be.
--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

 

[jerpat]

http://www.steves-digicams.com/diginews.html says it's a digital camera.

EOS-1Ds SLR

I have been swamped with emails from folks all over the globe letting me
know about the premature release of info on Canon Europe's web site
yesterday about the upcoming EOS-1Ds SLR. This info was supposed
to remain a secret until just before the start of the Photokina show in
Germany on Sept. 25th but it's out of the bag now. The new Canon
EOS-1Ds will feature a full-frame (in 35mm equivalent) image sensor
with a total of 11.1 million pixels of resolution. We can only guess at this
point that it will be built on the existing EOS-1D body and get this, it will
possibly sell for around $6000.

And if that wasn't big enough news, another tidbit of info also slipped out
in reference to another Canon digital SLR to be introduced at Photokina.
The Canon EOS 300V which will be identical to the Canon Rebel Ti
35mm film camera. And can I have a drum roll please, the expected
price of this new dSLR will be an amazingly low $1000. No other details
as far as imager resolution or focal length multiplier is available just yet
but Canon expects the EOS 300V will "become the world's number one
selling SLR camera."

Oh boy, is this going to be an interesting and fun year or what!

 

[hoang nguyen]

I don't know about the problem with $1,000 for a D30 equivalent camera.

Canon should not worry too much about used equipment.

~ $2,000 for D60.
~ $1,000 for D30 equivalent ie. 300V.

The D30 was not a terrible Camera, maybe they are just repositioning the line.

Does not look too bad to me.

Just my 2 cents..

Hoang

I don't read German, but it's pretty easy to make out.

EOS 300V Gehäuse 319,- Euro (assume body only)
EOS 300V QD Gehäuse 369,- Euro (with Date)
EOS 300V mit EF 28-90 399,- Euro (body and a cheap lens)

To be release around mid September 2002.

The used price of a D30 would give any new DSLR within the $1K
range a hard time selling. Why? Because the chances of a new $1K
MSRP DSLR outperforming the D30 is slim to none. Just ask one
question, if they introduce a $1K DSLR, what sensor would it have?

Anything less than 3.3Mp, people would laugh at it. If it's the
same as the D30 then it's like re-inventing a camera they already
have. Anything higher than that and it's competing with the D60.

But again, introducing a new "film" camera in this day and age is a
business decision that I don't understand either, so anything is
possible.

could there be a digital SLR in there but they just got the 300V
name put in by mistake. I know there was a lot of talk about a new
Digital Rebel in the works for 1000.00. Could there really be one?

--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

--
TN

http://www.photovideodisc.com

 

[Mitch M]

Julio's right, if you read the specs in the PCMag article you can easily see it's a film camera. It's faster than the previous film version (what other digital can boast that?) and it mentions "film advance" and "film prewind."
Once again we all get our hopes up just to be let down.

Mitch

http://www.eos-magazine.com/System_EOS300Vspec.html

Notice no LCD screen, and if you look carefully, there's what
appears to be a slide switch to open the back cover to install the
film cartridge.

Julio

The release mentioned a second new digital SLR known as the EOS
300V, also due for unveiling at Photokina. According to Westfall,
this model is identical to the Canon Rebel Ti, which was announced
in the States on August 27. Canon expects that this camera, likely
to be priced at an astoundingly low $1000, will "become the world's
number-one selling SLR camera."

Whats this I dont understand? This was supposed to be a film Camera
but at 1000 dollars it cant be.
--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

 

[Jim K53618]

I don't know about the problem with $1,000 for a D30 equivalent
camera.

Canon should not worry too much about used equipment.

I agree. It's not like any existing D30's are flying off store shelfs, but they certainly would be for $1000!!!!

I still think it's a possibility, but won't pretend to know for sure.

~ $2,000 for D60.
~ $1,000 for D30 equivalent ie. 300V.

The D30 was not a terrible Camera, maybe they are just
repositioning the line.

Does not look too bad to me.

Just my 2 cents..

Hoang

I don't read German, but it's pretty easy to make out.

EOS 300V Gehäuse 319,- Euro (assume body only)
EOS 300V QD Gehäuse 369,- Euro (with Date)
EOS 300V mit EF 28-90 399,- Euro (body and a cheap lens)

To be release around mid September 2002.

The used price of a D30 would give any new DSLR within the $1K
range a hard time selling. Why? Because the chances of a new $1K
MSRP DSLR outperforming the D30 is slim to none. Just ask one
question, if they introduce a $1K DSLR, what sensor would it have?

Anything less than 3.3Mp, people would laugh at it. If it's the
same as the D30 then it's like re-inventing a camera they already
have. Anything higher than that and it's competing with the D60.

But again, introducing a new "film" camera in this day and age is a
business decision that I don't understand either, so anything is
possible.

could there be a digital SLR in there but they just got the 300V
name put in by mistake. I know there was a lot of talk about a new
Digital Rebel in the works for 1000.00. Could there really be one?

--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

--
TN

http://www.photovideodisc.com

--
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some camera's fall short of coming!
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[dgrogers]

The only way I could see a Rebel costing $1,000 is if it were digital. Although prices are kind of screwy in Europe (this was a European website that spilled the info, right? Although I thought Westfall was employed by Canon USA), they can't be that bad. Perhaps Canon meant 1000 meant Pesos or Yen?

The release mentioned a second new digital SLR known as the EOS
300V, also due for unveiling at Photokina. According to Westfall,
this model is identical to the Canon Rebel Ti, which was announced
in the States on August 27. Canon expects that this camera, likely
to be priced at an astoundingly low $1000, will "become the world's
number-one selling SLR camera."

Whats this I dont understand? This was supposed to be a film Camera
but at 1000 dollars it cant be.
--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

--
dgrogers

http://www.pbase.com/drog

 

[Peter Phan]

It's the Rebel Ti here in the states. It is the replacement for the Rebel 2000.

http://www.canoneos.com/rebelti/flash/rebelti_f.html

The release mentioned a second new digital SLR known as the EOS
300V, also due for unveiling at Photokina. According to Westfall,
this model is identical to the Canon Rebel Ti, which was announced
in the States on August 27. Canon expects that this camera, likely
to be priced at an astoundingly low $1000, will "become the world's
number-one selling SLR camera."

Whats this I dont understand? This was supposed to be a film Camera
but at 1000 dollars it cant be.
--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

 

[Keith Lommel]

I don't know about the problem with $1,000 for a D30 equivalent
camera.

The problem is that to Canon, the cost of making a D30 is the SAME as the cost of making a D60. Actually, it would be more because they'd have to set up a new production line (or reconfigure the one they're now using for D60's). Now why would they want to sell the one for $1000 and the other for $2000?

--Keith

 

[Valliesto Bailey]

The CMOS chips in the D30 and D60 are the same size. The major factor that determines sensor cost is size. I just don't see any area of a D60/D30 for Canon to squeeze the extra $1000 out of.

I don't know about the problem with $1,000 for a D30 equivalent
camera.

The problem is that to Canon, the cost of making a D30 is the SAME
as the cost of making a D60. Actually, it would be more because
they'd have to set up a new production line (or reconfigure the one
they're now using for D60's). Now why would they want to sell the
one for $1000 and the other for $2000?

--Keith

--
Valliesto
'A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five
minutes longer.'

• R.W. Emerson

 

[David Knight]

See:
http://www.eos-magazine.com/News_35_EOS300V.html

I don't read German, but it's pretty easy to make out.

EOS 300V Gehäuse 319,- Euro (assume body only)
EOS 300V QD Gehäuse 369,- Euro (with Date)
EOS 300V mit EF 28-90 399,- Euro (body and a cheap lens)

To be release around mid September 2002.

The used price of a D30 would give any new DSLR within the $1K
range a hard time selling. Why? Because the chances of a new $1K
MSRP DSLR outperforming the D30 is slim to none. Just ask one
question, if they introduce a $1K DSLR, what sensor would it have?

Anything less than 3.3Mp, people would laugh at it. If it's the
same as the D30 then it's like re-inventing a camera they already
have. Anything higher than that and it's competing with the D60.

But again, introducing a new "film" camera in this day and age is a
business decision that I don't understand either, so anything is
possible.

could there be a digital SLR in there but they just got the 300V
name put in by mistake. I know there was a lot of talk about a new
Digital Rebel in the works for 1000.00. Could there really be one?

--
Steven
D30
22-55
24-85
28-80 L
80-200L
100-300L
50 1.8
2x Tamron
420ex

--
TN

http://www.photovideodisc.com