Don't like the WHITE on your L?

[Tbedna1]

Check out this post

Thought it would get more attention in this forum than the 40D forum...

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=26807278

TB

 

[jpr2]

seems to be needed here

jpr2

 

[jpr2]

Thought it would get more attention in this forum than the 40D forum...
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=26807278

looks like you've been mistaken - the other thread seems to move along,
while this is dormant; but anyway - what are your ideas, broadly speaking?

jpr2

 

[Tbedna1]

Thought it would get more attention in this forum than the 40D forum...
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=26807278

looks like you've been mistaken - the other thread seems to move
along,
while this is dormant; but anyway - what are your ideas, broadly
speaking?

jpr2

I've been reading about a lot of people that would like to hide, camouflage, modify, protect their white or black Canon lens. Unfortunately, there's not really an easy way of doing it that's not either permanent or hideous. So, in the name of helping all those out there who would like to hide, cover, protect or whatever, I'm going to try manufacturing somewhat of a cheap, effective, semi-permanent solution that will be affordable and customizable. I literally just came up with the idea the other day and there's going to be a lot of design/testing that needs to be involved because I'm not going to distribute some half @$$ product. Bottom line...be patient. In the mean time, if you're interested in being a tester, send me an email by clicking on my profile. I'll keep you in the loop with updates and you may be lucky enough to test the product.

Thanks,
TB

 

[Voyager13b]

I like my white lenses. Could you come up with a product that turns my camera bodies white, and keeps them clean?

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Voyager

 

[psebi]

n/t

 

[Knackerman]

The lens elements inside the barrel contain material that may change its properties with fast (heat) temperature swings. The white color make sure that the temperature doesn't swing too fast, keeping the lens sharp and quick to focus in most conditions.

The white lens is also a bit of a marketing gimmick too (especially at sports events), more of a secondary effect though.

If you don't like it, don't buy the longer L's, go for Sigma or 3rd party lenses......or you may try your luck with Nikon

Regards

K

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http://znapper.ath.cx/

 

[glasswave]

1. Many wildlife photographers feel a white might spook a timid subject.

2. Many believe that white lenes attrack an inordiante ammount of attention. Affecting their ability to be anonomous when shooting "street candids." This attention could also invite theft.

3. Many sporting or entertainment venues may refuse entry to someone with a white (they consider it "pro") lens, when a black lens of similar proportion may be allowed.

4. Others simply prefer black.

I´m sure their are other reasons as well, but these are the most often sited.

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There is simply too much beauty in the world to photograph it all, but I'm trying.

 

[ARH1956]

Lens Coat offers covers in several colors for most of Canons white lenses for those seeking a disguise. Kata & several other companies offer rain covers in black & their are other options as well. I guess I'm saying if you truly have a problem with the white on Canons L's there are ways to deal with it. I have never given it a thought. Whether shooting sports, weddings, my family/friends @ Walt Disney World or anywhere else I've never had a problem in 30+ years. Oh, if I've got the 300L f2.8, 400L f2.8, or even the 100-400L out I've had people come up & comment on it, no big deal. I've had people ask questions or make comments when I'm shooting with the 135L f2 or 16-35L.
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[filmluvr]

The white color
make sure that the temperature doesn't swing too fast

I looked up "hype" in the dictionary, and this was the definition. )

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[mmullen]

The lens elements inside the barrel contain material that may change
its properties with fast (heat) temperature swings. The white color
make sure that the temperature doesn't swing too fast

It's not only the lens elements. The lens barrel itself is subject to uneven expansion if the top part is hotter than the bottom from solar radiation. Also, a black barrel will create more prominent convection air currents inside the tube that will get magnified by the lens elements. If the lens barrel is perpendicular to the sun the effect is much stronger.

Most high-end astronomical refractors are white. The transfer of radiant energy is slower on a white or silver surface compared to black.

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Mike Mullen

 

[Knackerman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_L_lens

"Larger sized L-lenses, such as the 70-200mm and 100-400mm zooms and longer focal length primes (300mm+), usually have an off-white barrel (sometimes referred to as the color "putty") to reduce heat absorption under the sun that may otherwise affect the performance of the lens, as well as to identify Canon's lenses (for example at sporting events). However, shorter focal length L-lenses can be black (such as the Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L and all L-lens primes under 300mm, with the exception of the discontinued 200mm f/1.8L and newly announced 200mm f/2.0L IS.). Therefore L-lenses can be identified by either a lens barrel's off-white colour or, as on all L-lenses, the distinctive red ring on the lens barrel."

Cal it whatever you like, I don't care.

K

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http://znapper.ath.cx/

 

[jpr2]

with the exception of the discontinued 200mm f/1.8L and newly
announced 200mm f/2.0L IS.).

I really do need one of these 200mm F 1.8/2 for opera, ballet and
philharmonic events, but as they are both white, the obvious choice
would be the AF-S 200/2 VR (black) - somehow ushers are not fond of
these white monsters, and they give ones like myself rather hard
time (and by the way - neoprene socks, as a camo, do not go well
with tuxedos, it is akin to be thrown out for not wearing a tie);

However, it is very often so hot at these operatic events, sweltering
even = all this energy of too much hands clapping, yelling, etc.

so, I guess I should reconsider, and go for a heat dissipating whites? )
jpr2

PS can anyone explain WHY these black (and long) tele-nikkors are so
much immune towards heat expansion? very puzzling indeed

 

[js20D]

The white colour being a marketing gimmick and really a SECONDARY matter.

I think Canon must be laughing their heads off. 'come on, all those white lenses lined up at the side of the fields, you cannot get better publicity. I am sure they have patented it was well.

And all those other manufactures suffering from warped lenses right?

THIS IS PRIMARILY A MARKETING TOOL!

It is funny how you get engineering talk in some of that marketing material to justify a belated market strategy. Anything half scientific will do. They even make you believe you cannot do without. Face Recognition anyone? Really need it, latest technology, can't do without anymore.

Dilbert comes to mind. Funny

 

[psebi]

In the end it's just a matter of taste. I have no problem with white on a lens.

I prefere black on a car. Others might prefer white or blue or red. It's just about taste.

2. Many believe that white lenes attrack an inordiante ammount of
attention. Affecting their ability to be anonomous when shooting
"street candids." This attention could also invite theft.

3. Many sporting or entertainment venues may refuse entry to someone
with a white (they consider it "pro") lens, when a black lens of
similar proportion may be allowed.

4. Others simply prefer black.

I´m sure their are other reasons as well, but these are the most
often sited.

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There is simply too much beauty in the world to photograph it all,
but I'm trying.

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[kjuh]

I looked up "hype" in the dictionary, and this was the definition. )

... and don't tell me you never wondered as a little kid why bonnets of black cars were so much hotter that white ones in sunshine.

...or that you didn't notice that black paper catches fire fastest when you were playing with a magnifying glass.

... or that you never learned at school what "colour" means when talking about radiation and reflection?

Secondary or primary reason, white is an engineering solution and the benefit can be felt by hand.

 

[jpr2]

... and don't tell me you never wondered as a little kid why bonnets
of black cars were so much hotter that white ones in sunshine.

it is not as much important to dwell on such surface temperatures,
but rather on insides, and after a while interiors of two exactly identical
copies of the same car model, one black and white, would be of the
same temperature, however, the black one will cool quicker - again
in exactly the same circumstances,

...or that you didn't notice that black paper catches fire fastest
when you were playing with a magnifying glass.

false again, as it has no bearing on the subject at hand - to catch fire
these temperatures would need to be at least in several hundreds
degrees region - at such conditions there will be no lens, no body,
nor even any photographer left to conduct some more testing

Secondary or primary reason, white is an engineering solution, and the
benefit can be felt by hand.

and of course ONLY canonites are smart enough to realize this?

jpr2

 

[Vibrio]

Check out this post

Thought it would get more attention in this forum than the 40D forum...

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=26807278

TB

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[marsbar]

I've thought the same thing. White really stands out, turns heads, I go out for simple walk along sea wall, and at least get a few questions. I rahter have it black, once made a PS'ed image of my 70-200, just to see what it might look like:



I kinda like it
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[stanve]

Urgh, I think i will prefer white - that black 70-200 is just ....ugly.

Regards.