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D80 ISO1600 sample

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David Chin said:
... a high-ISO image shot in similar conditions, aperture and
shutter speed that exhibits better characteristics.

Except maybe images from the 5D (haven't explored the 1Ds MkII and
1D Mk whatever in sufficient detail)
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I seen some fairly clean images from the 30D shot at ISO3200 with very impressive noise reduction without much loss of detail. That would be the only reason why I would buy a Cannon.

Mark
David Chin said:
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Nikon D80 Links:
http://www.nikond80links.com
http://www.pbase.com/dlcmh/nikon_d80_sneak_pictures

Links to all my other sites:
http://www.flickr.com/people/davidchinphoto
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Church Event Photographer

Full time auto tech, part time photographer. Just wished it were the other way around. Mark Thompson/MTT
Louisville, KY. USA

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DuncanM1 said:
This is an image that has great depth, but is shot handheld at
1/25sec at F3.5. Inevitably the image will be soft, because, by
definition, most of it is OOF.
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Here's a DOF calculater:

http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/DOF-calculator.htm

you'll note that under default (IE non critical viewing) a 20mm f3.5 lens might be said to provide acceptable focus in this situation, but if you change the parameters to mimic more critical viewing (IE closer viewing distance and 20" print size) then the image is clearly OOF, by definition, because f3.5 @ 20mm cannot provide adequate DOF.

Duncan
 
too many possibilities for user and lens limitations.

no way to judge high ISO sharpness from this sample. The other that was posted a week or so ago vs. the A100 is a better sample...yet still with the 18-135.

Lets see a 50 f1.4/1.8, on a tripod, ISO1600 - until we get good samples no one can judge detail retention. In another decent comparison posted the detail retention and noise performance is better than the 30d.

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http://www.ianz28.smugmug.com

 
The D80 does seems to be sharper and has less color noise.

Mark
ianz28 said:
Lets see a 50 f1.4/1.8, on a tripod, ISO1600 - until we get good
samples no one can judge detail retention. In another decent
comparison posted the detail retention and noise performance is
better than the 30d.

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http://www.ianz28.smugmug.com

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Church Event Photographer

Full time auto tech, part time photographer. Just wished it were the other way around. Mark Thompson/MTT
Louisville, KY. USA

http://mtt.smugmug.com/
 
johanmorck said:
Richard Fossum said:
I think my d70s church pics at iso1600 looks pretty much the same.
I'll save my upgrade till they release something really special (or
a used d200 when I can afford it).
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If you compare the D70 pic from the church (from the same page)
you should notice that it is taken at ISO200, not at ISO1600 at the
one from D80.
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Well, what I ment was MY church pictures, I didn't bother to look at those that might be on that site. And what about the C? Canon? Of course it's better. So what? When my pictures look more noisy than any canon out there, I just sit back and think of how troublesome analog photography must have been (and still amazingly striking pictures with blur and grain stick to your mind and gives you the feeling of soul...yeahyeah I am getting emotional about it) I feel lucky, and my Nikon feels good :-) I am not saying the D80 isn't any better, just not enough for me.

Kind regards,
Richard Fossum
 
... and this is at 986x660, before I view it at 100%! I'm talking about the ceiling.

With today's sensor technology, Nikon should've done better. It may be worse than my D70 at the same size (986x660) but of course I can't be sure until a side-by-side is done.
digigenic said:
DCresource recently updated their D80 gallery, and I just noticed
for the first time they've got an ISO1600 shot posted.
Here's a link to the full gallery:
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/nikon/d80-review/gallery.shtml
Here's the ISO1600 shot:
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/nikon/d80-review/DSC_0017.JPG

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JC Mason
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100% crop. All hand held.

D50



Nikon D50
2006/08/04 20:12:56.8
Compressed RAW (12-bit)
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 18-70mm F/3.5-4.5 G
Focal Length: 18mm
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/20 sec - F/5
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 1600
Optimize Image: Custom
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-A
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp.: Normal
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Normal
Sharpening: Medium high
Image Comment:
Long Exposure NR: Off

D80



Nikon D80
2006/08/22 12:58:49.1
JPEG (8-bit) Fine
Color
Lens: 18-135mm F/3.5-5.6 G
Focal Length: 18mm
Exposure Mode: Programmed Auto
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/25 sec - F/3.5
Exposure Comp.: 0 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 1600
Optimize Image: Normal
White Balance: Auto
AF Mode: AF-A
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Color Mode: Mode Ia (sRGB)
Tone Comp.: Auto
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation:
Sharpening: Auto
Image Comment:
Long Exposure NR: Off
High ISO NR: On (Normal)

D70



Nikon D70
2006/07/30 19:18:27
Compressed RAW (12-bit)
Image Size: Large (3008 x 2000)
Lens: 17-55mm F/2.8 G
Focal Length: 17mm
Exposure Mode: Aperture Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
1/30 sec - F/2.8
Exposure Comp.: +0.3 EV
Sensitivity: ISO 1600
Optimize Image: Custom
White Balance: Incandescent +3
AF Mode: AF-S
Flash Sync Mode: Not Attached
Auto Flash Comp: 0 EV
Color Mode: Mode II (Adobe RGB)
Tone Comp.: User-Defined Custom Curve
Hue Adjustment: 0°
Saturation: Enhanced
Sharpening: Medium high
Image Comment:
Long Exposure NR: Off

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Church Event Photographer

Full time auto tech, part time photographer. Just wished it were the other way around. Mark Thompson/MTT
Louisville, KY. USA

http://mtt.smugmug.com/
 
Photobug197965 said:
With today's sensor technology, Nikon should've done better.
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That is the very essence that keeps nikon from being the best brand without doubt. To me they without doubt make the best houses and interface.

BUT it seems that the only answer they have to noise is more NR, not a better sensor.

They seem stuck in a corner and that is woring. If only fuji came with a new killer dslr in that segment.... or even better, nikon started to use fuji sensors, ahh what a dream.

Anyway i will await the review, that unfortunately seem to be long off as usual with the reviews here.

Best wishes

Jakob
 
It's impossible to compare this images.
D50 image is more underexposed compared to others.
D50 and D70 images are converted RAW files while D80 is jpg with NR turned on.
 
The squirrel surprisingly enough is jpg. I read somewhere that the noise suppresion is better for jpgs so I was trying it out. The flower and my son were raw. I mostly shoot raw though. I'm beginning to feel more comfortable shooting at high iso's lately. But back when I used to shoot film I would push tri-x to 1600 so its something I like to do and fortunatly for me so does the d50.

Dan
 
Thanks a lot!

Now if they would just make a D150. All the features of a D200 with the D50's sensor.

Dan
 
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