If posts to our news articles and forums are any indication, one of the most exciting announcements from Photokina is the Canon Powershot G7 X, a genuinely pocketable camera with a large 1”-type sensor. In this video, DPReview’s Richard Butler takes us through the highlights of the G7 X and gives us an idea of what to expect from it.
I was wondering how the Canon G7X could suddenly shoot to the very top of the popularity list ie was at 97% for a number of days. Simple grade school math shows that DPRs totals for most popular camera do not add up to 100% overall so something is seriously wrong with DPRs measure of "popularity"
I believe that DPR measures their popularity by how many page hits there have been to review or preview articles in the last 5 days. In this case they apparently based it on the number of video photos displayed ie 30 pictures per second to come up with these astronomical figures.
Make no mistake the G7X is a very popular new addition but it ranked nowhere near this high when initially introduced and previewed?
Come on DPR isn't it time you came up with a more accurate measure for your popularity listing?
How do you hold those things? Seriously, so awkward, no grip, just a slippery box. Not a great design at all. At least the Panny's give you something to hold.
That is a fair point. Although the Canon's surface is textured a little bit more than the Sony so it might be slightly more secure to hold. But it would've been nice had they put that little indent in the front like they did with the Powershot S100.
Canon G7X or Canon RX7 ? Canon, a follower of Sony? Exit, the successful interface of (most of) G serie cameras. The best one was those of G12: its fully articulated screen, its set of dials and its menu. Now, a fragile tilting mechanism, a fouling touch screen! What a pity !
One more who spkeak without having tried a Canon touch screen. I was like you before, then I bought one. Now, my S95 is awkward to use. To be fair, now i want BOTH : dials & button for settings kick access AND touchscreen for AF zone selection. On the G7X, you have both : dual dial design, customisable buttons, expo comp dial and tilting touchscreen.
Considering the fast lens covering big 1" sensor I wonder why couldn´t Canon make an S series compact with brighter lens. If they are capable of producing 24-120mm lens with f1,8-2,8 for 1" sensor, how come they were not able to make the S100/110/120 with small 1/1,7" sensor any brighter than f1,8-5,7. I onwed the S100 and it was a nice small camera, but the slow lens (at telephoto) made me angry; I wasn´t able to lock focus at 120mm anywhere but in bright sunlight. So making a S130 with f1,8-2,8 would breathe new life into this small camera.
As you get beyond f/2.8, lens becomes more complicated and advantages in terms of light actually captured by sensor smaller (because of the angles of the light, the light rays falling under angle are partially lost because of the sensor structure).
A zoom around f/2.8 or a prime around f/2 is the optimum, faster than that, and disadvantages (weight and cost and vignetting and even color shifts for WA) grow faster than advantages.
It's hard to believe that they can make a lens that small, with that zoom range and aperture. On paper at least it looks better than the Sony RX100III and Panasonic LX100 but I get the feeling that something has to give. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the image quality is like.
On paper it might look nice, but a large sensor enthusiast compact for this money in 2014 must have an EVF. But as usual, Canon made a great camera and then put something away, in order to be able to add it in later generations. I am sure the successor will have an EVF, but for now you have to look elsewhere.
People take pictures in bright light with their smartphones every day. Lack of a VF of any sort has never been a problem. If you say it's a personal preference, ok,but it's not a must for everyone.
Yes, people take pictures with smartphones in bright light... and only when they come home they can finally see what they shot. ;-) I have quite advanced smartphone with great camera specs (considering this market segment of course): 1/2,3" sensor, f2 lens, great 5" screen, but shooting in sunlight is a punishment. But it´s only a phone so I can live with those limitations. Not so with the dedicated enthusiast camera that costs 700 USD.
Gah. Enough with the "EVF as a necessity" talk already. You like it? Great! But it's not a necessity at all, especially on a cam this small. You know what is, but is missing here? All day battery life!
So although some are fervent about the EVF, the majority of people who actually buy these enthusiast pocket cams barely care about it as a feature, and most reviews are honest about the M3 EVF being "OK" and not even used most of the time.
The reason Sony put it on the M3 is because they didn't have much else to innovate on between the M2 and M3. Full sensor sampled video, a further tilting screen, and a brighter (but shorter) lens were too iterative to guarantee a lot of upgraders from the M2. But they knew the EVF would get the cam a lot of ATTENTION from digicam and techblog press, even if people barely used it.
Of course, everyone has their own preference and anecdotal usage statistics, but as most reviewers pointed out, it often gets used less than half the time.
@splendic: there really may be people that do not use the EVF and shoot straight-handed, I have even see a woman shooting like this with a big DSLR. ;-) But anyone who got mad aboutthe impossibility to see the LCD in bright sunlight welcomes the EVF. Plus the Sony EVF is retractable, so if you don´t need it, it does not get in the way. So having an EVF is clearly an advantage, even if you don´t use it all the time, because when you need it, it is there. And because most EVF add almost nothing to the weight of a camera, every large sensor compact in 2014 costing more than 500 EUR definitely should have an EVF. I had many enthusiast compacts (including Canon), but I am not goint to buy one without an EVF.
Gottschalk. the lens is not faster then the but has more zoom.(mkIII) Or it has the same reach while being faster (mk1/2)
it doesn't have both.
daniella The Sony MKIII has the Xavc s codec. Which is very solid. It also has 120 fps in 1280x720. a nice high speed option. You can change all setting during recording. basicly using the same handling as in stills.
Canon's touch based system may be more intuitive for video. But the RX100 MKIII has a viewfinder which makes it more stable when used. The LCD can also tilt down. Making recording from above much easier. The Canon only tilts up for selfies.
I find the auto panorama mode on my RX100 to be worthless anyway. Why? Because the camera defaults to 1/500s shutter speed to avoid motion blur while panning. So unless you're shooting in full sunlight, the image quality is poor. I much prefer to take individual shots and stitch using Hugin. (It takes much more effort of course. ) IMO, there are too many useless features and settings on these compacts making them more complicated than DSLRs.
and what is the use for 180 degrees apart from selfies? can't get to the controls from the other side.
upside down is good one. but that means the shutter is on the bottom as well.......... well at least it will work in video. if the camera flips the image while recording.
i prefer vari angle as well. bu it requires a wider body. not great for a camera this small.
24-100mm is a great range. That is the main attraction of this camera. Since it has access to the popular 85-100mm portrait range that the competitors lack.
I prefer the viewfinder and Xavc s codec of the rx100. and will just crop or digitally-zoom to get further away to not distort peoples faces.
But can't deny i'd rather have this lens on the Rx100 mkIII body.
At BarnED, actually it is faster, for any given equal focal length. Remember, both are F1.8 to 2.8 BUT the Sony only goes to 70mm whereas the Canon goes to 100mm. Comparing both at 70mm (and across the whole zoom range actually), the Canon is faster at all focal lengths accept 24mm.
you can see that the canon is F2.8 from 50mm till 100mm The Sony drops even quicker though but still the claim that the canon is faster at all apertures aside from 24mm equiv. is wrong.
Simple really. First, they seem to address a few of the handling issues people had with the Sonys. The big thing though is that it has a much better focal range than the Sony mkiii. The Sony is limited to 24-70, which is a deal killer for many as it misses the optimal portrait focal range. The mki has the focal range but the lens speed drops real quick once you start zooming in. The Canon addresses this. It zooms from 24 right through to 100mm, with F1.8 to 2.8. That's a big deal! A real feat of engineering. Not only that, at all matching focal ranges, the Canon actually has a smaller F-stop. The IOS also seems to perform better. Basically, the Canon addresses all the Sony's shortcomings.
I was also surprised by the designation "one of the most exciting announcements". It is really a nice camera, but definitely not as exciting or as expected as Panasonic LX100, 7D II, D750, NX1...
Wow. Gottschalk, thanks for the great explanation. As a canon fanboy I'm still not too excited. I guess I'm a bit disappointed that they just wrapped all of that excellent engineering around a now ancient sony sensor instead of coming up with something a bit better. Thank you very very much!
Based on past experience between the brands its safe to say that the Canon will have superior high ISO performance (both RAW & JPEG) compared to the Sony RX100 III & Panny FZ1000
Regarding the fast f1.8-2.8 lens... Sensor size plays an important role here... so its unlikely to beat the 7D II at high ISO... but may come dangerously close to superseding the renowned 7D, 60D & 550 - 700D ...
Canon doesn't have a reputation to have good High ISO It actually is mostly the other way arround.
at the long-end F2.8 is 2 stops faster then F5.6 That is 4 times more light
The sensor is 1/3rd the size. And superior in technology(BSI Cmos vs normal Cmos)
The 7D MKII seems to use the 70D sensor and all the marketing BS won't make it amazing. With the 18-135 F3.5 5.6 it will have more noise in low-light then the G7X. since the g7x can use Iso 400 instead of 1600 for instance
The price will be the key point for this camera. I don't think it can surpass the IQ of the RX100 Mark III sony sensor, but canon always compete in price.
The 100mm 2.8 in 1" and that size it's just impressive, but i won't trade it for 24mm IQ. To me, the 24mm to 35mm focals are far more important.
I think they buy the Sony sensor. Same pixelcount and size. No heritage of this sensor in any canon camera before. And canon has bought Sony sensors for their compacts before.
I still think the rx100 is a better option. It has something very useful that the canon has not. A good evf built in.
Nice presentation, Richard, It really helped to envision size relationship to the hand. Saying that the G7X is one of the most capable cameras (in the segment) is like choosing one of the two available at this moment, other being RX100(MX)
Where's that said, out of interest? I can't find it in the video.
If it's text somewhere, I'll update it to make clear that I mean this and the RX100s are the most capable (compared to small enthusiast compacts, not just in comparison to each other).
Can't see the video yet, but given the specs I expect the Photokina model is tethered to the power cord, or they are swapping out batteries every half hour?
@Mustafa - I'll try to remember that next time we shoot one. It's probably a combination of nerves and frustration at having fluffed the same line for the fifth time.
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