The Leica TL2 is a good, slightly silly, but great-looking camera

This Visoflex has nothing to do with the Olympus. Jono is right.

Where is the market?

Check-out this Sekonic video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPqILS6Vj4c to see a moder touch-screen in action.

the red dot commands you ..

In that logic, Xiaomi M1 would satisfied you. 😂

"You can see a touchscreen in the dark as well."
This is the problem : when you use a touchscreen, you can no longer be in total darkness if required...

"touchscreen are the future"
Touchscreen-only devices are not the future for everyone : ask blind people if they can use a smartphone...

@T3,
I did not talk about cameras but devices in general... As the comment "touchscreen are the future" is also general and was not limited to cameras.
So please think twice before saying my comment is ridiculous...

Good luck with that LCD screen acting like a mirror in bright sun

Touchscreens are the future for most things, but some cannot be replaced. See how the new Toyota Camry took a step back from touch-only interfaces to keep physical knobs for volume and radio tuning.

I feel like Knobs, and to a lesser extent buttons are here to stay for things that require blind usage. So modern camera usage, which is focused almost completely on the viewfinder, will still have those. Makes sense for almost full-touch for non-VF cams tho.

The nex-5 replacement is the A5000/51000

Photodesignch Oh don't get me wrong, nothing against the Nex-5. It is just surprising Leica rather than doing their own unique style went with a "me too" design philosophy here.

I agree on your view of how mirrorless bodies changed though.

@Dr Blackjack, it wasn't. Because A5000/5100 can not attach additional EVF. With that EVF (Same resolution as Sony A7), it clearly is the winner of it's own kind. nothing else come close besides Leica TL series. Even Fuji won't allow their tiny bodies such as X-70 to add additional EVF. so it's not even the same league.

The issue with the NEX was that the flash was also external...

@Dr Blackjack, indeed... and refreshing rate is slow... For it's compactness, there are always going to be compromises.

Anything before and after, nothing seems to be as compact. It saddens me there is no new version of NEX-5. Yet! anything came after it are heavier and bulkier. That's the only reason why Ricoh GR II although it's a few years old, the used price is higher than new. As long as no one comes up better camera in that compact size, Ricoh GR II would probably live like a king till then.

I agree.
DPreview occasionally using inappropriate wording on their article headlines. Usually perhaps to catch more readers but to also cause more upset commenters to waste their time. Like I am doing right now. :)
I only wish the editors do not use judgment on their headlines but use more suggestive attitude so that, us, users can come with our own decisions and opinions after reading.

Look at these article headlines from just this past month:

The Leica TL2 is a good, slightly silly, but great-looking camera
The Fujifilm Instax Square SQ10 is less fun than it should be
3 things that will bug photographers about the Polaroid movie trailer
Video: Sony a9 falls short with Canon 300mm and 400mm lenses attached

Actually it is really curious no-one has used the 28MP Samsung APS sensor, you'd have thought they would have made them for people if they wanted a decent quantity...

Dr_Jon:

Wouldn't that mean that Samsung would have to keep the chip plant running, and of course be willing to sell the sensors?

Also the newest 24MP Sony sensor is a better higher ISO sensor than the 28MP Samsung sensor used in the NX1/NX500.

I don't think they dropped a few billion on a fab just to make the sensor and then closed it afterwards... Although they might have mothballed the odd machine.

Oh and in what sense is the Sony sensor better, there's a lot of criteria to cover sensor performance and for a lot of people QE and a deep pixel might mean more than DR? (The QEs seemed very similar, I saw 54% and 57%.)

Dr_Jon:

As I say the Sony 24MP sensor is better at higher ISOs, so is the 20MP sensor in the Nikon D500/7500.

The 28MP Samsung sensor is plenty good, though a bit noisy at lower-middle ISOs--at least in the NX1.

My question is better how?
Higher QE so captures more light so lower noise in the main part of the image?
Higher DR so the shadows will be less noisy if you need to lift them?
Etc.
Or are you saying better in every category? It doesn't seem great in readout speed (hence all the rolling shutter).

Dr_Jon,

Lower noise, able to shoot at higher ISOs.

Didn't comment on read out speed.

I confined my comments to higher ISO shooting. (With the added bit about the NX1 being somewhat noisy at ISO 800, or thereabouts.)

Never said "every category", please don't pretend I did so.

I wasn't pretending anything, but as I said there are a lot of criteria to good high ISO performance and I was trying to see what you were talking about. Since the NX1 seems to have about the same QE as the latest Sony sensor I don't understand where the noise comes from though, unless Sony are cooking the Raws at high ISO, which is quite possible. Also it may be used dual gain and the Samsung not. The 6300 is dual gain (changing below 800) and cooks the raws at ISO 12,800 and up. The NX1 sensor isn't dual gain (or at least isn't used that way). So maybe that's it.

Dr_Jon:

Okay, what does the acronym QE stand for? I guess that's something I'm not clear about.

Sorry, Quantum Efficiency, i.e. what % of incoming photons get turned into electrons in a pixel. Since the noise is the square root of the electron count (as you only "see" sampled photons) and the amount of photons that arrive is set by the rules of standard exposure (probably an essay subject tho) the higher the QE the more electrons and the less noise. Then add camera noise (usually negligible outside the dark shadows). The apply tons of noise reduction (to the JPEG and often to the Raw at higher ISOs) . Then you're done... :-)
P.S. most people who quote QE start from DXO's numbers and there are two steps along the way that have substantial error issues and are cumulative. Plus QE varies quite a bit over the frequency of light - fun fun fun...
See the table:
http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/Sensor_Characteristics.htm
http://sensorgen.info/
Remember the bit above about errors tho... Sensorgen, D2x, 476% ;-) oh and no it doesn't have an image intensifier in front of the sensor.

Not sure what you are complaining about, camera and lens is about the same price as a 7D mkII with a decent lens or a Fuji X Pro 2 and a kit lens.

If you decide to pick it up, it's your choice. For me, if I see someone with this camera, I'll consider him/her a brand buyer, who has nothing to do with photography. Like the tourists who carry the best of L glass on their Canons, but the flash pops up during focusing.