jkoch2, what is your agenda? Something is making you blind to the truth here. This raw video is an incredible breakthrough for the 5D3. Listen, Vimeo is only 720p for free users. You have to pay them to be able to show your videos in 1080p.

Did you download the original 1080p? I put it on a memory card last night and watched it on a 50" TV. It looked better than any DSLR video I have ever seen. It is VASTLY, HUGELY better than standard 5D3 video. It's literally a different camera.

5D III RAW,,, Side by side at night,, pretty impressive.

http://vimeo.com/66083408

Magic Lantern is Canon-only hack group

EOSHD is wrong. At least it won't be Magic Lantern. That's Canon only hack group who have been around for years. They have never done anything on other brand other than Canon. That won't change

They mention the possibility of implementing on CANON 600d! NOT Nikon D600!

DPReview007 , There is difference between uncompressed video (8-bit) like Nikon and RAW. RAW is RAW (like raw in still mode). Uncompressed 8-bit video is not RAW

This is better by a massive gulf.

Just saw the comparison videos in youtube. The difference is breathtaking. I don't do video, so I wonder how people lived with such limited DR before.

DPReview007 ,, sorry,, umm,, are you saying you're some kind of DPR secret agent with that name? Does your mommy know you're on her PC?

Hah! Like the difference between trying to win Monaco with an F1 car or a Yugo.

"Ask yourself the following question: what's the core difference between Canikon DSLR video, and the likes of RED or Alexa ?"

2k-3k versus 5k or 6k, 24fps versus 90fps to 120fps, 12 stops of dynamic range versus 16 to 20 stops.

Let's not forget global shutter, and an array of physical outputs, compatibility with many industry standard hardware, and as mentioned above, a lot more DR for the cinema look, and for flexibility in all situations. And I agree about the frame rate as well, so far 24FPS seems to be it for the MarkIII, high end cameras doing a lot more with that, when you want at least 60 for some slow mo. Still, if I can get faster cards, and the hack becomes available on the Mark II (so far, kind of) then I will have to try it out once it matures for better workflow

Yeah, but you guys didn't get my point.

Sure there's a lot more to these cinema cameras, of course.

My point was that once these DSLRs start to output RAW, the IQ at normal shooting speeds (24fps) and 2k resolution (which still is the standard for most productions) is basically the same between cine cameras and DSLRs.

The same for all real purposes. Sure someone will test them at the extreme ends of the chart, and find hair-splitting differences.

My point is that regardless of price difference, the RAW output from both will be near identical for all practical purposes.

PS: don't get fooled thinking the more resolution, wooow, instantly the better.

Cine cameras do not sell by megapixels like the consumer oriented D800.

A proper high quality 2k camera is still the most desirable for big budget productions, and it's "only" 2k, just like your DSLR.

Canon does not handicap anything.

According to your definition of "handicap", Toyota handicaps the Yaris by not equipping it with a V8 engine.

If there was no product differentiation, no company would ever make any money.

@whtchocla7e - but in this case the Yaris DID have a V8 engine

Well a Yaris does not have a V8 engine that is using only 6 cylinders because Toyota wants to sell another car for more money. The capability is there in the Canon camera you just haven't had the ability to access it. Big difference. I am not sure Canon can do anything about it except void your warranty. I can put a different OS on my computer, once I own it I can do whatever I want. Just like putting a super charger on a car, if the engine blows its on me. Federal court just ruled that phone companies cannot prevent you from jail breaking your phone if it is yours and not under contract. I cannot see how Canon can prevent me from changing the Camera or prevent a group from helping. It gets even harder since ML is not even charging.

@whtchocla7e A better analogy would be if Toyota sold you a Yaris with an engine that could output up to 150hp but with an engine control unit that limited it to a maximum of 80hp.

Guys, Nikon does it too, not just Canon.
When you see a maker disabling a feature that has nothing to do with hardware (for example, no bracketing in a lower cost model), what do you think that is? Your allegations that this isn't happening is just myopic and naïve.

"According to your definition of 'handicap', Toyota handicaps the Yaris by not equipping it with a V8 engine."
No. According to Benarm's definition, it would be exactly like Toyota putting a V8 on every Lexus — only to disable the fuel injection to 2 cylinders on the V6 models so they can charge more for the fully functional V8 version.

Much cheaper than spending $70,000 on an Arri Alexa to do it Nishi.

Or cost you $2700 as you rush out to buy a second 5D3 ;)

jkoch2 -
you're missing the point. Read the article and prior posts by EOSHD. Otherwise, this improvement is not really for you.

If you did absolutely no post work to either files, then indeed you'd see little difference (except in high movement scenes), but as soon as you start "grading" your files, the difference will be great. Read to any jpg vs RAW debate, and it's the same deal.

The vast majority of iPhone users are completely tech-inept. That how they sell so many,, pure lowest-common denominator.

" it would of taken"

Is that a thing?

Hey Juck, you're a funny guy. :-) Rotflmao.

Betcha the engineers knew, but marketing squashed it.

Canon has at least 2 reasons:
1. It doesn't cost Canon to have Magic Lantern right now
2. Canon has it's more expensive video cameras to protect

That said, I do wish these advanced features are supported by the default firmware if the hardware is capable of doing it.

well you have to take a look at it this way .. ML add on - if it screws up your camera .. oh well. don't use it.

If canon software engineers screw up the firmware - they are obligated to fix it.

It's alot easier for ML to rapidly implement features and release code because they are only working on released cameras, with a very limited ... well, zero warranty.

@MediaDigitalVideo .. everyone does it .. do you not think most cameras could have additional feature sets if someone hacked the firmware and improved it?