These are the best cameras you can buy right now

From reading the comments, everyone hates Canon...
...except professional photographers
...amateur photographers
...200,000 employees
...investors with $24 billion in equity

(zips up flameproof suit)

Dec 8, 2017permalink

Canon have lost their way mate. And everyone knows it. That's why they're not in the list. it's really very simple - when Canon start making just one compelling camera again, it will be on the list.

Dec 9, 2017permalink

ChickenBalls

lol another diehard fanboy
Are you saying that the 5D IV is just as good as D850/810 and A7RII/III or the 6D II is as good as the much older D750??

Dec 10, 2017permalink

https://g3.img-dpreview.com/BC90E238EA7E41CD8D96D80EDBF27848.jpg

I think he's saying you guys are amateurs.

Apr 20, 2018permalink

LightBug

Pentax K-1 still best value for high image quality.

Dec 8, 2017permalink

LightBug

Comparing K-1 pixel-shift vs 645z vs D850 vs A7Riii pixel-shift:
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=pentax_k1&attr13_1=pentax_645z&attr13_2=nikon_d850&attr13_3=sony_a7riii&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=100&attr16_1=100&attr16_2=100&attr16_3=100&attr126_0=2&attr126_3=2&normalization=full&widget=1&x=-0.5514783106248938&y=0.2044586429613169

Seems like K-1 is the best for fine details when pixel shift can be employed. The Sony pixel shift still has hint of false colors in region with fine lines:

Dec 8, 2017permalink

Jonathan Wilson

And even if you look at DXO results, the K-1 is still a strong performer against Nikon 850 and A7RIII: https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-A7R-III-versus-Nikon-D850-versus-Pentax-K-1___1187_1177_1075
Especially with signal to noise (actually K-1 possibly a little better if you look at "screen" resolution) and Dynamic range - even though these are without pixel shift turned on! And all for say 55- 60% of the cost.

Dec 8, 2017*permalink

Esign

For most users, holding the camera steady is still the most important challenge. You can tell everytime someone is shooting onehanded, which is impossible. Back home add some smart sharpening at 100 % view, works with any camera from 12 mpix up.

Dec 9, 2017permalink

Butoa

Pixel-shift requires a tripod and still scene; it has very limited practical usage. Repeatedly mentioning pixel-shift is silly. That shouldn't make any difference in buying decision. Lens availability, speed, and AF make a far bigger difference, and there K1 lags significantly behind others.

Dec 9, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

We could have a best use of the word best in the photographic world award for the year.

Dec 7, 2017*permalink

ikaika777

Where’s the Fuji X-T2?

Dec 7, 2017permalink

jthommo101

What absolute rubbish. Canon M cameras? If your going mirrorless there are plenty of decent m4/3 cameras out there.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

And the EOS M won not one, but two categories. Yes, get your head around that miracle which is up there with Jesus walking on water.

Dec 7, 2017permalink

escapewheel

Having shot Micro 4/3 since the system's inception, I moved to EOS M system six months ago don't regret it a bit. M43 DOES have a lot to offer, but image quality (at least vs 16MP 4/3 sensors) is a considerable step up with current-gen M cameras. Autofocus with the M5 fares better, especially in low light, than any of the Micro 4/3 cameras I've used (including latest gen Panasonics with DFD). Native lens selection is few, but the number of good, cheap lenses adaptable with full AF is endless. I get that it's not the idea system for everyone, but in practice I find the M system to be remarkably capable.

Dec 7, 2017*permalink

(unknown member)

Capable yes, the best (which was the criteria), no. Every review says that.

Dec 7, 2017permalink

Esign

"Every review says that." Yes, when they rule out cameras without giant right-hand grips, optical 100 % view finders and 10 shots/second. But if your'e willing to compromise to get a 2 lbs system, look no further.

Dec 9, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

You mean giant cameras like the Olympus mirrorless and fujifilm x-T20? Both of which beat the M6 in dpreview's own reviews but weren’t even included in the list of cameras? It was poorly researched if that was the shortlist, and dpreview claimed it was meticulously researched. That’s outright bull.

Dec 9, 2017permalink

escapewheel

Owned the X-T20, as well, and still much prefer EOS M system. And this brings us to the point here... these suggestions are for the "best" camera for the person making the decision. It's subjective. There's no need to be insulting or heap on the hyperbole. Someone at dpreview thought a particular camera is best in its specific class, nothing more or less.

Dec 10, 2017*permalink

(unknown member)

Then it’s not extensively researched like they claim.

Here is my definition of how "meticulously prepared and exhaustively researched" would happen, and why I say it did not occur:

1. You establish what the criteria is for the best camera for parents (as that category for example). For example, you may say "compact size, built in flash, good AF speed, easy to use, tilt screen etc".

2. Then you look at the market and fine the best cameras that meet that brief. You DON'T take 6 completely random cameras and decide what the criteria is afterwards (which is what it seems like they did and does not meet the brief of "meticulously prepared and exhaustively researched")

3. You evaluate those cameras based on their capacity to meet that set of criteria.

4. You declare a winner

The above is not opinion. That is objective.

Dec 10, 2017permalink

rhlpetrus

Strange D500, very highly rated at DPR and considered the best under FF camera money can buy, is not listed. D850 and new Sony FF ml deserve the billing, bit some other cameras here look out of place.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

Yes, its the best APS-C camera made. But, it's the same price as some FF cameras that offer better IQ. It's a niche product for birders or those with an investment in DX lenses.

Dec 8, 2017*permalink

(unknown member)

D500 isn’t full frame

Dec 9, 2017permalink

dr.noise

No, I can't buy them right now

Dec 6, 2017permalink

mike earussi

Welcome to another dpreview push poll where the only choices available to vote on are sponsored products.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

Carey Rose

But this isn't a poll...

Dec 6, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

@Carey Rose
But the implication here is that all available cameras released and current have been fully tested to the same degree by DPR. it is difficult to see how you can explicitly state these are the best cameras available without this being the case.

Dec 7, 2017*permalink

Carey Rose

Out of curiosity, which cameras are you interested in that we haven't been able to review fully yet?

Dec 7, 2017permalink

Tobamory

Dec 9, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

@Carey Rose
Canon G3X for example. Only previewed by your site and a 600mm equivalent 1" camera which is probably the only affordable example of its class for many. One half the price of the cheapest Sony equivalent the RX10 III and I would have thought merits your attention at least for that reason.
I am happy enough if you do not like the thing but there is no real evidence that you have examined it in detail. The best cameras there are is just puff really if you have not examined them all to the same extent.

Dec 9, 2017*permalink

wondrouslightdotcom

In my 50+ years of photography initially as an amateur and then as a part-time pro I have worked with all kind of formats, gear and subjects, and not developed a true brand loyalty. Since 2000, I have used digital cameras from Canon, Nikon, Minolta, Fuji, Pentax, Panasonic and Olympus. Today, I shoot outdoor/fine art with a couple of EM5II bodies and a bunch of Olympus and Panasonic lenses, both the pro and the minuscule but good "normal" glass. My choice is due to the M43 combination of portability, IQ, price, lens selection and fun to use which is hard to duplicate. It is obviously not good for every kind of photography but if one wants small and light with publishable IQ then the system shines. I got into it with the Pana GH1 and then moved to the Oly cameras (EM10, EM10II, EM5II) because Pana bodies got ever bigger and I take video with a camcorder. I find that often the M43 system, especially Olympus gear, does not get enough consideration.

Dec 6, 2017*permalink

Voodoo Blue

I too am quite frustrated with the lack of coverage for Oly EM series cameras. I spent quite a bit of time doing research before purchasing the EM-5 II, now I realize how little coverage DP Review gives them. I am at least happy to see a shout out to Fuji's mirrorless camera; it was also one of my serious considerations before I decided on the Oly.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

jimkahnw

I hardily concur. M43 gets far too little coverage. Conventional wisdom derides the small sensor, arguing it cannot possibly produce "professional" results. What rubbish. Clearly, no one sees the results, they just assume it cannot be. I do photo research for a living and source images from the smallest digital cameras through medium format backs and even film. True, there is a difference at the pixel level, but it seems only ill-informed photographers make comparisons that closely. When the ink hits the paper, the M43 is indistinguishable from all the rest.

Dec 8, 2017permalink

wondrouslightdotcom

Hi jimkahnw, I make my own fine art prints with Epson pro printers up to 24x36". For me, the key piece of information about a new camera IQ is imaging resource's report on how large it can print at what ISO. The Oly EM5II gives exhibition quality 24x36" prints at ISO100-200 and 16x20" at ISO1600, the typical ISO limit I normally work with. Processing my Raw captures in DxO OpticsPro (now PhotoLab) I gain another 1-2 f/stops (imaging resource reports on best jpegs straight out of the camera). Still images (my fine art studies in my little home studio) shot with the High-Res Mode can be easily printed up to 30x40" (my own experiments with image crops). The EM1II 20MP sensor is good for 30x40" prints at native resolution. At last, I ask myself how many pixel peepers do it with a serious Adobe RBG monitor.

Dec 10, 2017*permalink

(unknown member)

Another "Hi, We are DPR, we love Canikon and Sony article". Surprised Fuji even made a mention with the X100. Seriously, the EOS M? Was the writer a Canon fanboy? The Eos M???? What are there like 4 lenses available for it? As opposed to Olympus and Fuji who have about 10 times the range and are far better cameras? And the rest of the DSLR crap that you had on the low end? Wow, it doesn't get much worse than this.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

Ron Reefman

How about the best super zoom camera? You guys are too hung up on interchangeable lens cameras. OK for the Pro, but more than 50% of use 'regular' photographers are using super zooms now.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

Because people are using smartphones.

Apr 20, 2018permalink

noel2

What about the Pentax K-1 ?

Dec 6, 2017permalink

mike earussi

They weren't paid to promote it, so it wasn't listed.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

mediumgray

Interesting that these are the "Best Cameras You Can Get Right Now".
I work in a camera store. We are getting 2-3 Nikon 850's/month and have 25+ on backorder.
I've had a D5600 ordered for over 2 months. EN-EL 15A batteries have been back-ordered for over 2 months.
The Sony A7RIII isn't even shipping yet.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

You can buy a D850 and A7RIII right now. If not, you're not trying hard enough.

Dec 9, 2017*permalink

james s. kennedy

There is no perfect camera, but the one camera that I would most hate to relinquish is my iPhone 8+. My best al l around camera is my Fuji HS50EXR, my best digital SLR is my Nikon D700. My best travel camera is my ZS100. Others I am fond of are my Sony a6500 and Fuji X30.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

johnxe22

Agree - my iPhone. I use it all the time, add a little color depth in PS and you're golden. love my D700 with old Nikon glass (great lenses at next to nothing cost). yes it is a brick. And yes i have to think about what i am doing and manually focus. When it comes to autofocus - nothing beats the look of the Summilux lens wide open on my Leica Q.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

The phone works in a pinch.

Apr 20, 2018permalink

Mike FL

If you ONLY bring one camera for traveling, Olympus TG5 is the best camera you can buy right now b/c TG5 can go anywhere under any bad conditions. If you can survive, TG5 will survive.

Also, TGs has two waterproof conversion lenses with other add-on.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

De Fotoman

Sponsorsed by Amazon!
Where is the Xt20, Xt2? The D7200?
Fake advertising even!

Dec 5, 2017permalink

You can't buy the D850 on Amazon UK, it's not available and never has been.

Dec 9, 2017permalink

whawha

You might have forgotten to add “according to us” to the title...

Dec 5, 2017permalink

Eleson

I think you mean:
"Accordingly to me, you might have forgotten to add “according to us” to the title..."

Dec 9, 2017permalink

Wubslin

The best one I don't buy means more money for me... keep buying the shiny toys. My investments are counting on you.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

miatamich

Are there any particular ones you're especially not buying? I'm looking for suggestions on what not to get.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

Wubslin

I'm definitely thinking of not getting the Nikon D5 this year. It's really expensive so the savings will be huge.

Dec 8, 2017permalink

Yeap, keep shooting with that phone. You'll save a lot of money.

Apr 20, 2018permalink

NemanRa

1dx2, 5ds, a992?

Dec 5, 2017permalink

All bettered by other cameras from other manufacturers.

Dec 9, 2017permalink

pocoloco

Fake news

Dec 5, 2017permalink

Aleksei K

So, you shouldn't by Pentax K-1 by some unknown cause. As well as Olympus OM-D cameras. May be, they don't pay for their recommendations? But you should by Canon toys, that were criticised here in reviews. DPReview is falling to yellow press segment.

Dec 5, 2017*permalink

For some reason I'm not getting much out of these this year.

The comments are fun as all the trolls and fanboys are out in force but for the actual articles.... meh.

Show of hands: Who thinks these are well done, as good or better than in the past and "value-added" to your future camera shopping?

Dec 5, 2017permalink

james s. kennedy

I don’t blame DPR. There is flood of new cameras, all very good, but few standouts. Nikon used to update its flagship about every 10 years, but now updates come ever 3 months. It’s hard to keep track. DPR still my go to site for product reviews.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

The Silver Nemesis

DPR's finest...😂😂😂

Dec 5, 2017permalink

User5273771010

Flawed, YES!! Skewed, YES!! Must be a Christmas Pay-Off, Hmmmmm!

Dec 5, 2017permalink

El Lawrence

No Fujifilm X-T2 or Nikon D500. This list is flawed, and I'm being kind.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

Tonio Loewald

And two Canon mirrorless models. Go figure.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

captura

The winner is the one who pays the most.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

The Sgm

I suppose the list is accurate as far as what each individual needs and or desires. However, I have to laugh at the Sony 7RIII and the Nikon 850 being included since they are not readily available.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

SushiCub

Don't take their lists too seriously, please. From the comments I've seen, most of us know exactly what we like and want - no need to be influenced by these lists, right?? We can talk this is better than that for all day but that's not the point...

Dec 4, 2017*permalink

AdrianPocea

Let's face it. For how amazing A7r3 and D850 objectively are, Canon KNEW about this. They shoveled the 5div into their users bags, that being objectively an workhorse and a hell of a camera. Now most people are stuck with it, and waiting for the new Canon. Unless you are a rich youtuber, like the Northrups or Polin, a buck from photography comes hard, you won't drop 4000 just to switch for marginal improvements. Nikon and Sony played their cards,this is the utmost tech they can come with(especially Nikon, almost broke now). Now it is Canon's turn to amaze. If they come in 2018 with a 5dsrII with 60mpx ,same dr and low light as 5div, some crippled 4k but with the DPAF, and a flipout screen, I am sold. And so will be most people. Canon is smart. Canon is like Apple.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

disasterpiece

Come oooooon, the D500 is nothing short of amazing.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

Putting the entire Nikon range on there would have been difficult to do, but it would have been accurate. I guess they thought that they should at least try and be balanced.

Dec 9, 2017permalink

contadorfan

Still no DPR love for the excellent Sony a99ii. Pity

Dec 4, 2017permalink

As for the EOS M Line-Up. The handling is great (as is typical for Canon IMO and Dual Pixel AF is a joy to use, but this is not enough to get on a top list IMHO.

Why?

1. New EOS M models like the EOS M5 and M5 feel really cheap in comparison to older EOS M models and I'm comparison to the competition.

2. As those are ILCs, lens selection should be factored in. Though there are some high value lenses around, the EF-M lens line up leaves a lot to be desired.

3. The absence of such basic features like Auto-ISO settings in cameras of the price range like the EOS M5 (which is the top level camera of the EIS M line-up btw) and the EOS M6 us inexcusable IMO.

4. I can't tell for the EOS M6, but I encountered a serious quirk with my EOS M5: Once the attached lenses are stopped down and not used at their fastest aperture, the frame rate drops down significantly to about half the advertised max. frame rate of 8fps.

BTW, I did not even get started about 4K ;-)

Dec 4, 2017permalink

"the EF-M lens line up leaves a lot to be desired"

I think they've done a pretty good job. I shoot both sony and canon MILC and while sony has more lenses canon has more that I can actually afford and that I want to buy.

For the average user they have zoom covered 11mm to 250mm, a couple of nice primes (22mm F2, 28mm macro ).

They haven't duplicated EF lenses like the 50 or 40 but both of those, even with the adapter are the same size or smaller than sony's 50.

Sure there's no F2.8 zooms but those are huge anyway making the size of the adapter a non-issue.

On my wish list would be a prime wider than the 20mm but other than that not much else......

And compared to the rube goldberg adapter my A6000 uses with a built in pelical mirror based focusing system the canon adapter is a total joy. I have to look twice to see if it's even on my bigger lenses like the 100mm F2.8 Macro.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

What do you mean by this? Every canon I've used has auto ISO.

"absence of such basic features like Auto-ISO settings "

Also disapointing about the build quality. You can fault my origiinal EOS-M for a lot of things but it's built like a tank

One thing I'd add to your list is that you can't take a picture while taking a movie. Pro's don't care but for hanging out with family I've loved that feature but canon recently dropped from their entire line-up and even with 100s pages of coverage on the new canon's by dpreview it was not mentioned here once.

Dec 5, 2017*permalink

@ keeponkeepingon: Thanks for replying. As I said, I think Canon built "some high value lenses" and by that, I mean very portable and good quality lenses at a an affordable Price. I think the current lens seletion is totally sufficient for traveling and if ones EOS M is meant to complement a DSLR as second Body. But there are no really fast primes and not even e single fixed aperture zoom lens. As for adapting lenses, most EF lenses are really clunky on the EOS M and EF-S lenses usually do not have fast apertures. The EF 50 1.8 STM is one of the few EF lenses that make sense to use on the EOS M line-up and it gives a lot bang for the buck, but it has horribly CA.

I think the Problem is, that Canon probably built the whole EOS M System with the intention on selling current DSLR users a second body instead of Building up an Independent System. It is nice that one can adapt EF / EF-S lenses, but one should not need to.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

Regarding you second post:

Of couse EOS M cameras do have an AUTO ISO mode, but there is no possibility to adjust it to ones needs (e.g. Minimum shutter speed or Maximum ISO value in AUTO ISO mode). That is a real shame for cameras with high three digit price tags like the EOS M5 and M6. IMO that is especially true considering, that Canons native AUTO ISO setting does lead to long exposures too long for many applications. It's totally fine for static subjects, but I missed quite some candid shots of my kids and friends, because AUTO ISO chose a way to long shutter speed in many cases.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

I am totally agreeing with you on the original EOS M beeing a very solidly build camera. But that is not the case for the EOS M5 and M6. That's why I wrote "new EOS M models like the EOS M5 and M5 feel really cheap in comparison to older EOS M models". I owned the EOS M5 and it has the cheapest feel of any ILC I ever touched with mushy buttons and thin plastic. One can clearly hear the camera creaking and see the grip deforming if one presses the grip firmly. That's a shame for a camera of that price point, considering, that not even low end DSLRs like the EOS 100/200 D have such issues.

Regarding the Picture taking whilst shooting videos. When Shooting 4K video it is easy to grab single frames of the movie and save it as stills. Of Course this is possible with FHD movies too, but one Ends up with low detailed 2 MP Images.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

"When Shooting 4K video it is easy to grab single frames "

Which isn't supported on the M's. My theory is Canon dropped the feature because of 4K..... then forgot to add the 4K.

Even if they had 4K my problem with this solution is that I'm now left with big video files I need to watch to capture a scene of the perfect moment (potentially doubling the time taken for the capture) verus just snapping a pict when it happens

"but I missed quite some candid shots of my kids and friends, "

Wow this is still a problem? I call the firmware on my T2i "overly optimistic" because it often picks shutter speeds way to slow.

For anything that moves, often I'm using Tv or manual and keeping an eye on the ISO to let me know if I need to pull the flash out.

Agreed more lenses would be nice but I don't find my 100mm, 10-18 or 55-250 hard to handle on the M .. I just hold the lens instead of the camera (but of course the size is anything but small).

Thanks again for the info!

Dec 12, 2017permalink

shademaster

Dpr needs a guide to their guides. They're really prolific this year!

Dec 4, 2017permalink

johnami

pffff............
I wonder how many of these 'best' boxes will still be operational in 20 years time?

Dec 4, 2017permalink

BadScience

cue a long list of nerds getting triggered by this list....

Dec 4, 2017permalink

Suave

The almost exact reason I hesitate to plop 2k on FF Sony.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

Good question, but also a bit of one that one should not think about anymore. I currently own 0 specimen of the DSLR equipment I had 10 years ago. I buy in sense that I think of it as 5y investment. I can tolerate about 1k loss/year, so every 5 years I reason using 5k money on my photography equipment and take back what I get from used market from my old stuff (unless they are still usable). There's no really going back to the good old days, when you can fix the body with a screwdriver and only wearing part in your lenses was the aperture blades. Yet, rarely old digital cameras disappear completely, so you will able to find replacements from 2nd hand markets.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

Marc Bergman

Why shouldn't they be working in 20 years?

Is it the microprocessor you are worried about? My Canon AE-1 from 1976 has a microprocessor and it still works fine.

Is it autofocus you are worried about? My Konica C35 AF is from 1977 and it still works fine.

I think these cameras will do just fine in 20 years. I am more interested in what they can do today. The qualities of both the still pictures and video are incredible.

I can't wait to get a Sony A7RIII and try it with many of my older lenses. The in-body stabilization will bring out new capabilities with these lenses.

I also want to get some modern wide angle lenses and try the pixel-shift mode.

I want to shoot some 4k video.

There have been rare reports of electronic equipment failures due to the manufacturing techniques used. If your camera goes bad after 20 years you will have taken over 100,000 images with it. You now have time to start processing all of those old files.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

There are many reasons, why your current digital camera might not work in 20 years similar to film one. One notable being that you do not find working battery/charger for it and cannot re-cell an old one.

But I agree that 20years for the body is ridiculous demand. More interesting demand is that is there any use for the lenses you had bought for that body.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

Michael Ma

Heat degrades electronics. The silicon chips last forever, but the integrity of the board it sits on can last a few months to decades depending on how much you let it sit in excessive heat. Small cameras that produce a lot of heat, you know which ones, will have a very short lifespan in comparison to a large-body metal-chassis DSLR which can distribute the heat a lot better. So it's going to be interesting when people dropping $2000-$4500 for these new tiny cameras that can do everything, thinking they are spec-for-spec equals, all start crashing, freezing, and restarting unexpectedly. For the casual shooter, they'll be here to defend that the classic A7R is as good as when they first purchased it many years ago. As for the pros who are switching for the first time from a DSLR, they are in for a rude awakening.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

Suave

@Marc - you have one AE-1, I have may be 50. Trust me, they can (and do) go bad in a multitude of ways, incliding IC failure.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

scokill

What part would be subject to early failure?

Dec 5, 2017permalink

More electronics means greater chance for failure.

Apr 20, 2018permalink

davids8560

I read a lot, but sometimes I dunno. Mr. Mulcahey has been calling me in early a lot lately. And Sis has been talking about joining the Peace Corps again. Where does it end? Anyway. Might have to go get that Evinrude myself. It's still on the boat, and Larry needs it, but Lake Okeechobee is a bit of stretch for me right now, with time so limited. Probably just gonna upgrade my D7100, that's all.

Dec 4, 2017*permalink

Black_Daifuku

I personally think Canon has better optic (Judged by Dxo)
At least for wide primes and 24-70 2.8, Canon has better sharpness in the corner, while Nikon falls a little short in the corner. This should give Canon some credit.

I am a Pentax shooter, so I could be very wrong on my statement, feel free to bomb me with you thought, I need them to choose my first FF(also the brand I will stay).

Dec 4, 2017permalink

Yoyox

What is all this talk about Canon being a company in decline? Latest IDC-survey shows they have a marketshare of 43.3 percent and growing. By far the most succesfull camera-manufacturer. I am a pro Canon-user myself. And why? Reliability, real work horses, intuitive to handle, great batterylife, great IQ, AF in low light and world best lens availability. Nikon is equally good for Pro-use. Depends on what You prefer.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

I think we could be talking about decline in chat levels and excitement amongst gear leading edge fashionistas concerning the brand. I doubt that actual usage of the stuff comes in to it.

Dec 4, 2017*permalink

A big part of their sales was compacts, which are being replaced by phones. They still dominate other segments.

Dec 8, 2017permalink

Triplet Perar

Best cameras one can buy right now are those that 3 years ago were $1000, and today cost $300. Keeping yourself 2-3 years behind the curve brings tremendous value, at 1/3 of the cost, and, at the most, 1/3 stops of detriment. Totally worth it.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

derekwolrige

So true! I picked up an Fuji XE1 last year for next to nothing and love it!

Dec 4, 2017permalink

JakeB

Shoulda gotten the X-E2.

MUCH faster and more accurate autofocus among other improvements.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

larrytusaz

Yes that's what I recently did. I got a very lightly used D3300 kit for only $200, then got the 50mm 1.8G for $85. Thus I got a Nikon D3300, 18-55mm II and 50mm 1.8G for a grand total of $285. Its image quality is a match for any DX crop sensor model out there right now.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

The best camera is the one that suits your needs and your budget. I value warranty and knowledge of the history of my camera bodies, so I buy my main camera bodies new. With lenses I tend to go more with 2nd hand, as 1 lense breaking on me is far less catasrophic situation than the body breaking on me.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

cainsterr

Where can you find these older models? After doing some quick searching all the resell sites are still charging an arm and a leg

Dec 4, 2017permalink

shademaster

Except the NX1. I should have bought during the firesale. Then it was $1200 new WITH the 16-50 f/2-2.8. Now it is $2200 used body-only. :(

Dec 4, 2017permalink

derekwolrige

In Australia I bought my XE1 for $200 off a site called Gumtree (owned by eBay I believe, a buy/sell site).
At the time the XE2 were selling for around 350-400 in which I didn’t have the budget for.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

miatamich

You can buy a nice used X-E1 for a few hundred dollars less than an X-E2. Since I don't do any action photography, focusing speed is not an issue. Plus, the X-E1 has more pleasing JPEG colors.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

derekwolrige

Agreed. I only use a couple of adapted legacy lenses with the Fuji, so it was a no brainer for me. Love the output this camera produces!

Dec 5, 2017permalink

comsicherb70

Agreed. Got myself a Sony A6000 with kit lens for £400. Bargain for the quality of images you can get out of it, and more money for good lenses.

Dec 6, 2017permalink

Polacofede

I would add d7200 and K3II... Affordables and great

Dec 4, 2017permalink

jim seekers

What about the Sony RX1R II.
It delivers breathtaking image Qaulity.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

Donald B

are they the best selling cameras ?

Dec 4, 2017permalink

anwiko

I had been waiting for a 6d successor for a long time. Last year, I decided to switch to Nikon and started with a D750. I wondered whether it was not a bit old already. Now DPR still recommends it - and so do I. It is a great camera. The only disadvantage for me is the loud shutter. AF, low light IQ, weight are very good. I hope, Nikon F-Mount lenses will be fully compatible with a future mirrorless system.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

They can't be fully compatible. They'll require an adapter like Canon and Sony do.

Dec 8, 2017permalink

JohnHoppy

5 Nikons, 4 Sonys, 3 Canons...... and a partridge in a pear tree. Really, DPR, you are seriously myopic. Or deluded. Or both. "Best"???

Dec 4, 2017permalink

Joseph K Boston

Alright, John, enlighten us, since you've personally shot with each and every camera listed in the roundup and somehow dismiss them all because they are C-N-S. Please, with your 2 posts in the last year, no gallery, no gear listed, not even a profile avatar, enlighten all us from from your gear-superior pedestal on what would have made better choices for the roundup.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

kreislauf

he might recomend the Iphone, since it is always with him with no additional cost?

Dec 4, 2017permalink

KevinSB

Right on !!

Dec 4, 2017permalink

Edmond Leung

Concept of Best Camera to Buy is different from the concept of Best Selling Camera to Buy. I think DPR is predicting the Best Selling Camera to Buy.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

wasTF

With these Lists DPReview is weird in my opinion...

Best Cameras up to 2017 with good Lens-Options:

SLR:
Nikon D850
Canon 5D IV

FF Mirrorless:
Sony A9
....well anybody else want to step into the market?

APS-C:
Nikon D5600
Canon 80D (still very good)

MFT:
Panasonic GH5 (still the best)
Oly OMD EM1 Mark II

Smaller Sensors:
Not touching that ;-)

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LDunn1

FF Mirrorless:

Think there is a case for both the A9 AND A7R3 being in there.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

(unknown member)

FF mirrorless: you missed the Leica options. The M has plenty of lens options.

Dec 4, 2017permalink

wasTF

thanks for the comments! the a7R3 and leica options i have not personally used/tested so i cant tell, but the a7r3 looks good, although the star eating issue really ruines the camera in my opinion. For leica, i can only go with specs, and i think nobody needs a recommendation for a leica, either you know you can use it and like it or you just don't.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

LDunn1

@wasTF - I got an A7R3 in the past week to use alongside my 5d2's & Canon lenses. I also enjoy astro imaging, so the star eater was also a concern for me. however, I plan to continue to use my 5D2's for night sky - one of them is astro modded. Doesn't mean that I wont try out the A7R3 on the night sky as well though!

I canon understand why the A9 is in a 'gear of the year' list, because of its outright 'sports camera' capability, However, I see the A7R3 as one of the best 'all rounders'. Hence why I believe there is space for both on such a list.

As a Canon Eos owner & user for 30 years, & someone who is maintaining his Canon system regardless of adding an A7R3 to the line up, if the list wasn't sub-divided 'Mirrorless' & 'SLR' & instead had 'top end camera' that would have pitted the 5d4 directly against the A7R3 - I know which i'd have chosen to put on the list.

Dec 5, 2017permalink

wasTF

well, the d850 wins again the 5dIV, but what should all the canon glas lover do then? ;-)

A9 is remarkable both in terms of Speed and Autofocus, combined with a great image quality, too! I tested it with the sony g 70-200 and a running dog.... for me it won against 6d II and 5d IV ... too bad i could not test d5 and 1dxII against it...

Dec 5, 2017permalink