Fujifilm X-T3 is three-time winner in our updated buying guides

Gosh so tempting. at that price

I'd wager an A7ii with a $1200 lens would could be a better tool for some things than the similarly priced A7iii with a kit lens.......

Nov 10, 2018permalink

wy2lam

Does the A7ii has a silent shutter?
Just saying. Sometimes 1/32000 is quite useful.

Nov 11, 2018*permalink

generikku

The original A7 is also a great deal at a few hundred dollars cheaper, for those who are OK with not having IBIS or eye AF. It's also a good body for those who want to use vintage glass on a full frame sensor. Anyways, nice to see more competition as it just provides people with more (and more affordable) options.

Nov 14, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

Not really a winner in all 3 so the title is misleading. It’s two first and a second.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

Unfortunately this is "par for the course" with dpreviews click bait titles these days.

Another example is the recent lens roundup titled "best lens" then when you read the comments it's the best bang for the buck lens so not even close to the best.

Nov 10, 2018*permalink

dpreview: You claim to have updated the buying guides but they are a total mess as you are not tracking current MSRPs (let alone street costs.).

The only way the XT-3 makes the $1000-$1500 buying guide is because you put it on that guide based on the price without lens ($1499). But the only way other cameras make the same list is because you are using the price of the camera with lens (the pentax, olympus, some of the canons etc)

At the extreme is the Canon M5 Currently selling (body only) for $579 from canon USA with a MSRP of $979. Either price would exclude it from the $1000-1500 guide but given the street prices you are grouping a $579 camera with a $1499 camera; a totally useless comparison to most of your readers.

Yeah it's hard to track street prices, but given you update these guides for xmas they should at the minimum accurately contain cameras based on the end-of year MSRP, and consistently be based on with kit lens prices or w/o lens prices

Nov 9, 2018*permalink

Richard Butler

We base our buying guides on launch price because that gives the clearest indication of where a model is intended to sit in each company's lineup and the market as a whole. The alternative would be recommending cameras against wildly mis-matched peers just because they're being flogged-off cheap at the end of their product cycles (then annoying anyone in a country where they're not yet discounted or have already run out).

Basically there are downsides to every way of categorising cameras, especially when it comes to price.

However, I agree it's important to be consistent. We'll check our categorisation.

Nov 10, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

Hi Richard. Wouldn't it make more sense to use current pricing rather than launch. For example, a potential buyer of the X-T3 or any other new camera isn't considering competitors at the launch price, they look at the now. They don't care if the launch price was $10,000, if the current price is the same as the X-T3, that is what is important.

Nov 10, 2018permalink

photofisher

Richard, product life is considerably longer than it was even 3 years ago. Many manufacturers are now doing what Sony does......they don’t discontinue older models, they just lower the price. I really think that you should change your methods to current MSRP to reflect this change in the industry. It would match more accurately what both consumers and manufacturers view as the competition for a given model, which is the whole point of these buying guides.

Nov 11, 2018permalink

> product life is considerably longer

Exactly. For example sony still lists the A7 as a current model with a body price of $800 and the A7II with a body MSRP of $1300. But neither are mentioned in the below $1000 or below $1500 guides.

If you think about it that's fairly incredible a new, current full frame camera for $800? (and who knows how low it will go with holiday pricing).

Nov 12, 2018permalink

Mr PapaBear

That X-T3 is very tempting. I wish their F2.8 zoom was 200mm instead of 140mm though. It is a 210mm F4.3 equivalent zoom (1.21 stop difference between apsc and ff).

But the 100-400mm F/5.6 looks appealing. If the X-H2 is as good with IBIS. I might not be able to pass it up.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

Richard Butler

In fairness, there's a historical precedent to suggest 75-210mm equiv is a range that people find useful.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

I own the 50-140 and 100-400 and both are wonderful pieces of glass. Also, the OIS in these lenses is very good.

Nov 11, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

Best for events? Seriously? Do you even shoot events? Do you understand the importance of battery life at events, and how the X-T3 doesn’t have it?

Do you just fish these titles out of never never land?

Nov 9, 2018permalink

LightPriority

Battery grip? Couple of spares in your pocket? It takes seconds to change them.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

Banh Mi

I shoot many events and never miss any moment with Sony A6500 / A6000.
LOL. Battery is small, and take me second to change them. Also, shooting events, u are already know all the schedule and what will happening already. With the lightweight of mirrorless , I can stand more than 8 - 10 hours no issue. Unless someone is a noob on events shooting, then grab a canon and go home, spend like 7 days editing their photos. LOL. DSLR can't even spot the face focus, and auto adjust / increase shadow / light when backlit behind subject. The only reason I use Sony on Events is backlit light on event, I need the face of my subject brighter automatic, and I don't want go home and spend 1000 hours edit.
P/S: I had shoot fujifilm X-T10 in the past, and turn it 's also nice, when choosing film color mode, go home and just copy JPG, send to client. Colors are perfect.

Nov 9, 2018*permalink

I have an A6000 and it's a total PITA keeping multiple batteries charged and juggling them while shooting.

The fact that you put up with it is fine, but don't pretend short battery life is a non-issue.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

Battery grip is fine but it adds extra weight and if you are an event photographer doing long events, that’s not fun, hence the reason so many event photographers use the D750 over the D5. As for the batteries, that’s great in theory but it comes at a price, you have to keep track of which have and haven’t been used, and you have to keep them charged. Then you add in the cost of your battery grip and twice as many batteries as the A7 and suddenly the X-T3 isn’t all that cheap.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

I shoot events.

My A9 and XT2 easily go through a 2 hour show, with about 6-7k images, on a single battery. I don't chimp while I shoot.

My only gripes are that sometimes these cameras get hot, and it's the battery compartment area where the heat appears to accumulate in.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

arjunmehta

It’s one of the few cameras available with always-on USBC power delivery (18W). Meaning you can hook up an external 20000 mAH battery to it kept in a pouch and have nearly unending power.

Most cameras with USB charging can only charge when the camera is off.

Nov 10, 2018permalink

myfujilife, then stick with the Sony system. The battery life bitching is getting very old. I carry multiple batteries with my Fujifilm cameras. What a concept!

Nov 10, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

Racin06, thanks. You just proved my point.

You have to carry "multiple", which are more costly than Sony's battery, despite Sony having twice the battery capacity, so you have to buy twice as many. And Sony still managed to fit a full frame sensor, ibis and a battery with twice the capacity in a camera the size of the xt3 which had a smaller sensor, no ibis and half the battery. The Fujifilm battery hasn't changed since the xt2 and yet fujifilm uses it across multiple models so the economy of scale means it should be dirt cheap, but it isn't. It's damn expensive and fujifilm continue to rip off their customers.

But you continue to support that from fujifilm. I believe they have a term for that.

Nov 11, 2018permalink

Yes, the term being a very satisfied Fujifilm shooter for two years now. Also, $65.00 per battery is a fair price to me, in which I have no problem paying.

Nov 11, 2018*permalink

(unknown member)

You can buy 6 third party batteries for the price of one Fujifilm battery. Fujifilm must love people like you. You're so easy to satisfy you'd buy stale bread for twice the price and be happy.

Nov 11, 2018permalink

LOL this site has now degraded into battery arguments?
Maybe we should call it dpbreview.com

Nov 11, 2018permalink

myfujilife, I would never purchase POS third-party batteries. Nothing but the best for me.

Nov 11, 2018*permalink

Relaxed, you made me laugh with that comment!

Nov 11, 2018permalink

entoman

Haha, so now all the dicks who say you are biased in favour of Sony, Nikon, Canon or Pentax will be claiming you are owned by Fujifilm....

Nov 9, 2018permalink

bladerunner6

I can honestly say they seem to favor some brands, including Fuji and they absolutely show a bias against Pentax.

It has been nine years since Pentax introduced Composition Adjustment and seven years since Astrotracer and never a review.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

bladerunner6

But I will say they are getting hot and bothered over Fuji lately.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

Aleks7

well deserved, sweet camera for APS-C

Nov 9, 2018permalink

beavertown

Best aps c system that is better than some FFs.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

nimo_or

Which FF you are talking about here ?

Full frame sensor with comparatively less number of pixels ( 20 MP in 6D) offer big pixel size and so better low light capability and DR.
Has this fact been changed or challenged by Fuji? 😯

Nov 9, 2018*permalink

len_streets

nimo_or,
That's it? All that matters?

Nov 9, 2018permalink

nimo_or

@len-streets,

Not yet.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

larkhon

Pff... last time I was arguing about the lower pixel density it got heated and I had to concede that it doesn't matter that much anymore. Between a 42mp A7r III and a 20mp Canon 6D, the technology in the A7r III is compensating for the smaller pixel size, and if we compare them at the same resolution it is again an advantage for the A7r.

Now, I can only say, I've shot again with the A7 II last weekend and to me there's not the same difference with my X-H1 I had with previous Fuji cameras, at least not in perceived sharpness/resolution.

Nov 10, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

It's a flaw to say better than full frame. Full frame will always have better low light and dynamic range given the same megapixels. The question isn't whether it's better than full frame, but rather whether it's "good enough" and that it has been for years already

Nov 10, 2018permalink

larkhon

just for the sake of arguing I don't agree. One might argue that X-T3 is better than Canon 5D for instance. It's not only about sensor size alone or even pixel density.

That being said, a way to read your comment would be "do I need FF? if FF is better is it worth the price for the kind of photography I chose?"

Nov 12, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

I think if you compare full frame to APSC, you can't compare selectively because there are always going to be good systems and bad systems, good dynamic range, bad dynamic range, outdated systems due for replacement etc. At any point in time, a brand new system is going to be better than other systems that haven't been outdated. Personally I always think it's better to test the best of the best, for same genre obviously, so not comparing a D5 with an X-T3, maybe maybe the D750, A7iii, and other 24MP-30MP sensors.

That said, the X-T3 doesn't have to be better than full frame. The X-T2 was good enough to be a pro camera, so obviously the X-T3 is and the majority of photographers aren't constrained by APSC, they are constrained by their own skill and their egos tell them the full frame part makes a difference.

Nov 12, 2018permalink

larkhon

yes, of course, what I meant to say was that it's not wrong to say that those X-T2/X-T3 are better than some FF cameras (what was claimed above, not all FF but some). Does it matter? for some probably but as you mentioned those cameras are good enough for most people.

Nov 14, 2018permalink

PostModernBloke

Damn, here we go with the "buying guides" on a review site.

Christmas must be coming, and another 20 or 30 "buying guides" doubtless on their way to show us the way to the checkout. 'Tis the season & all that...

Nov 8, 2018*permalink

The Fat Fish

It's cameras like XT-3 that make APS-C cameras more appealing that cameras like the EOS R make full frame.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

lotzi

Geerlings,
I assume that you see some kind of performance advantage for the 6D on some dimension. What would that be?
---
Sorry, I have seen your other comments below - if I understand correctly, you argue that the still image quality is better. That doesn't show up for me in the dpreview compare between the XT3 and 6D, but ok.

Nov 9, 2018*permalink

The Fat Fish

I own the original 6D and it's a fantastic camera. My issue is 6 years later and there's still no compelling upgrade from Canon.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

The Fat Fish

I recommend looking up the work of Andy Mumford who is a fantastic photographer producing work with a Fuji camera. He does that because he’s a great photographer and the gear doesn’t matter.

My work has changed over the past few years and I require a hybrid stills/video camera. Canon simply don’t make one that’s suitable but the Fuji X-T3 very much is. I also worry about investing more in a brand that with each release becomes less and less competitive. Long gone are the days of the 5DII, 550D and 6D. Now Canon cripple and segment as much as they can with absolutely no desire to compete. That’s bad for the consumer.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

Sergey Borachev

Olympus, Panasonic and also Sony saw the X-T3 coming and did not bother releasing anything in this enthusiast category. 😉

Well done Fuji! Can't wait to see the review of the XF 8-16mm f/2.8. 👏👏👏

Nov 8, 2018*permalink

AlexisH

I can understand the mention of Sony/Canon/Nikon, but not that of Olympus/Panasonic.

What exactly do you find in the T3 that you cannot find in Oly/Pana cameras and why do you think it's an essential feature for the enthusiast category?

Nov 8, 2018permalink

@Sergey
I am curious to see a review to learn whether there is a reason to upgrade from the excellent 10-24mm other than 2mm at the wide end, 1 stop and some weather sealing.

Nov 8, 2018*permalink

Sergey Borachev

@Alexis, Way too many things to list. Larger sensor with 24MP, superior PDAF, much better IQ in both stills and video, a 3-way articulated screen that stays behind the body, ... ... ... ... and a very reasonable price of $1500. Read the review. The only thing lacking in the X-T3 is IBIS. If Fuji can add IBIS with all these features in the next X-T4, or X-H2, it's game over for M43.

Nov 8, 2018*permalink

Sergey Borachev

@Craig, That's enough justification to upgrade isn't it - "2mm at the wide end, 1 stop and some weather sealing"?

Those 2mm make a big difference, and from what I read from the early reviews (from ambassadors tho), the new lens has very low distortion. It's an intriguing lens, very expensive, and I wish Lenstip would be able to find a copy and review it.

Nov 8, 2018*permalink

AlexisH

@Sergey: I wouldn't upgrade for those features that you enumerated, much less change systems.

But maybe by enthusiast category you meant those people that get enthusiastic after reading about cameras? I don't belong to that category.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

3pgrey

@geerlings

If I was buying into a system that wasn't going to cost an arm and a leg, and be enjoyable to shoot and had the lenses I needed I'd go Fuji. They've got a nice range from pancake to telephoto and some great portrait lenses. I wouldn't buy a 6d because then I'd have to spend x4 the price of the body on every lens to justify... full frame?

Nov 9, 2018permalink

@Sergey:
'That's enough justification to upgrade isn't it - "2mm at the wide end, 1 stop and some weather sealing"?'

The key selling point here is the low distortion throughout the 8-16mm range. This will determine if people are willing to pay the premium.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

https://www.lenstip.com/546.11-Lens_review-Fujifilm_Fujinon_XF_8-16_mm_f_2.8_R_LM_WR_Summary.html

Lenstip wasn’t exactly thrilled with the Fuji 8-16.

Dec 1, 2018permalink

Hardly thrilled.

"Also when you find out that the optics specialists gave up distortion correction in order to get more slack when it comes to correction of other aberrations you might expect a perfect, ideal performance in all other categories. Only you don’t get it."

That is quite a rip.

I also like the line about the piece of cloth instead of a proper case for $2k

Dec 1, 2018*permalink

@Craig from Nevada, it’s best to stick with the Fuji 10-24.

Dec 1, 2018permalink

@ikaika777,

Agreed. It appears that Fuji hasn't made it over the price/value bar here. They should have weather sealed the 10-24mm and slapped a red badge on it and called it good.

Dec 1, 2018permalink

M Chambers

The Nikon zealots on this thread are very offended.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

True, because XT3 IQ is better that the Z7. LOL

Nov 8, 2018permalink

entoman

People who end their messages with "LOL" tend to be plonkers. Try finding something intelligent or constructive to say, and prove me wrong.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

m_black

Nope. Fuji is a great system. You're more likely to hear objection from the FF crowd.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

photofisher

@entoman

LOL

Nov 11, 2018permalink

entoman

photofisher :-)

Nov 11, 2018*permalink

That’s because Nikon just released to failed mirrorless camera’s with 3 year old technology. I’d be upset/jealous too.

Dec 1, 2018permalink

@entoman, you just proved the OP’s argument. Good job 👍🏻

Dec 1, 2018permalink

Oh no, now I have to sell all my equipment AGAIN and move to Fuji.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Mateus1

Three serious issues:

1. Freezing - even with new firmware and different cards. Fuji is not able to fix it right.
2. Week battery - for video you need extra 4-5 ones.
3. More PP work to set colours pleasant for skin tones vs X-T1/2 (awful purple)

Nov 8, 2018*permalink

Week battery: If my camera battery lasted a week, I'd be quite satisfied. ;-)

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Mateus1

Weak of course.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

None of the 3 issues there.

well, of course, video recording requires a lot of power. Nothing surprising..

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Same with me, I've experienced none of these issues with my X-T3. Also, the needing 4 or 5 batteries to shoot video...what does that mean? It all depends on what and how long you will be shooting. I shot video (4k 60P) with my X-T3 of every play of an entire college football game and expended 1 and 3/4 batteries. Yes, shooting video is power intensive. I currently own 6 Fujiiflm batteries for my X-T3. All of this BS talk about battery life is just a bunch of bellyaching. Get over it and buy multiple batteries or don't invest in the Fujifilm system.

Nov 8, 2018*permalink

dabhand

@racin06 - too true - doesn't matter what system one is using - to use (most of) your words, people and reviewers should "Get over it and buy multiple batteries or don't invest in the XXXXX system".

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Nas from the Valley

@Mateus1
1. A7III freezes, A7RIII freezes as well, Nikon freezes which camera doesn't freeze?
2. All mirrorless cameras have the same battery + who would record more than 2 hours constantly??
3. What are you talking about?? Fuji has the bets colors I handle Fuji RAW files without any issue on LR and CaptureOne.

What a stupid arguments you say just to prove to yourself that you want to hate that camera because you can't accept that Fuji made better camera than yours.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Strolic Furlan

Canon EOS 6D does not freeze, believe me.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Lenses that need to be updates is another issue.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

@TogLife: Obviously not an issue from the camera.. :-P

Nov 9, 2018permalink

Nas from the Valley

People want to hate on Fuji so bad that they say stupid things like lens caps are ugly therefore the camera is bad lol

Nov 9, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

Nas, the Sony’s battery is twice the capacity of the Fujifilm. To say all mirrorless have the same battery is an outright lie. 710 CIPA on the A7 Vs 350 on the X-T3

Nov 9, 2018permalink

ales82

2. Week battery - for video you need extra 4-5 ones.

Video on any camera requires a lot of power. And the more the professional video you are aiming at, the more power needs you have to account for: it's almost an exponential increase. Just imagine the power needed to feed 48V phantom power to professional mics or the power needed to light a set up.

Nov 11, 2018*permalink

Anti-Fuji trolls crack me up. 😂

Dec 1, 2018permalink

KCook

- 'people and events'

I guess event photographers no longer need flash??? TTL choices for Fuji are almost non-existent.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

imagei

Check again. This was true several years ago. On top of brand-specific solutions if you want cross-platform you can go Cactus and use pretty much any flash.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

seacow2001

I believe goddox and flashpoint have some fuji trigger options with ttl and has. It is compatible with all their strobes.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Perambulator

NISSIN has had TTL for some years now, and ELINCHROM now support Fuji for HSS and (I believe) TTL with their smaller, portable flash system.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

Hähnel works great here.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

lazerbean

You forgot to do your homework before posting. Only occasional need for flash during events with modern cameras, and Fuji is well covered these days with TTL flash support from themselves, Godox, Profoto, Nissin and possibly more.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

noshea

Meike also works, even if it's not a Fuji-specific one i.e. not TTL.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

Do you shoot much flash? If you did, you would know that fuji’s TTL is VERY immature. You cannot control settings on whether you want TTL to do fill or ambient. With Nikon an example, if you set the metering to spot, it only does flash for fill, if you set it to matrix it does flash for ambient. This is one of the reasons why you have to set the ISO manually on Fujifilm, where with Sony, Nikon etc you can leave it on auto ISO. In short, yes it has TTL but it’s TTL is terrible compared to the competitors on the market.

Nov 9, 2018*permalink

The Jimmy 86

You shouldn't be using ttl anyways.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

Lol. Just because Fuji’s TTL is crap doesn’t mean the rest of the market shouldn’t use it. Wedding photographers have been using TTL for years. Outdoor shooters have been using it for years. I shot an entire prototype softbox in TTL in bright changing sunlight. Profoto implemented TTL on their pro gear for a reason.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

The Jimmy 86

@myfujilife I shoot nikon for work with SB910s, and I still don't trust TTL. I'll make my own flash choices thanks. Therefore, fuji's TTL failings mean nothing to me.

Nov 11, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

Great. I’m sure you have fun metering between each photo while you’re at it. TTL works and has worked for ages.

Nov 11, 2018permalink

Um, I use the Godox V860II-F TTL and the Godox Xpro-F trigger for my Fuji flash needs. Research before you post. 🤦🏼‍♂️

Dec 1, 2018*permalink

Don Mario

go fuji! and don't forget about a rugged/ waterproof x100!

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Fidibus

Where light is - there is shadow. And so I have a little rant about my otherwise very pleasing X-T3. Its about the USB 3.0 C cable. Fuji has a socket for transferring data to your PC, in my case iMac, which can also be used for charging the battery. So good! But why on earth did they not include the cable for it? I ordered one via -bay which was the wrong one, since it can be mixed up with the bigger plug for USB 3.0 hard drives. Now I have the right one and find it very useful.
One can say that Fuji wants as to transfer our photos wireless, which can easily be done to your smartphone or table. But has someone ever tried to transfer photos via "PC Autosave"? What a fiddly, complicated task and once you succeed its sooo slow. So why not include the right cable??
Just a little rant for the otherwise gorgeous camera.

Nov 8, 2018*permalink

Aaron801

I've never bothered transferring images onto my computer since my very first digital camera, before I learned that it could be done much more efficiently by moving the card. With any other camera I've had since then, that cord has sat in a drawer...

For charging though (I've never owned a camera with USB charging), I could see it being useful. I always like to have a few batteries charged up and that way one or two could be sitting in chargers and the other charged in-camera. Nice too if you forget or loose your charger on a trip.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Aaron801

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Fidibus

Using the SD card for transferring depends on where your slot is on your computer. I find it rather inconvenient to always fiddle the card on the nearside of my mac. So I got accustomed to using a USB cord.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

black pearl

It is becoming quite common for cameras to come without USB cables (at least Fujifilm supply a handbook) as few people ever use them. The one for my other X bodies are still in the boxes.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Fidibus

What has become quite common is not necessarily user friendly. Besides my Fuji XT20 had a cable.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Richandhiscat

"which can easily be done to your smartphone or table"

I transferred photo's to my table, but it was fiddly, I had to get them printed first....

Nov 8, 2018permalink

taruaS

Why not rant against Apple who no longer include an SD card slot in their newer imacs? I still use my imac from 2010 using OS 10.6.8. They have gone downhill since this benchmark.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

https://camerasize.com/compare/#800,777

"Using the SD card for transferring depends on where your slot is on your computer."

Actually quite a valid point. I use a small card reader with a USB cord as a solution.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

oscarvdvelde

With the cable you can also use Fuji X Raw Studio to use the in-camera raw conversion from your PC or laptop.

Nov 10, 2018permalink

Nikoncanonfan

Such a pity it's not full frame...

Nov 8, 2018permalink

io_bg

That's what makes it so great.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

davesurrey

No, that's what makes it so small. ;-)

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Nikoncanonfan

I LIKE the look of it, it’s just got a small sensor and the GFX is tricky to use needing great discipline. It’s like Fuji is deliberately self harming it’s products and sales potential

Nov 8, 2018permalink

BlueBomberTurbo

@davesurrey

"No, that's what makes it so small. ;-)"

Huh?

Nov 8, 2018permalink

davesurrey

@BlueBomberTurbo,
I guess that in your rush to hit the keyboard you failed to notice my smiley at the end of the post ie it was to be taken tongue in cheek. A light hearted comment.
Oh well!

Also I've no desire either to play any comparison size games which usually end up by selecting cameras that "prove" one's point.

Nov 8, 2018*permalink

BlueBomberTurbo

Good thing that ALL Sony FF mirrorless is the same size. ;)

Nov 8, 2018permalink

FF is not the ultimate solution for everybody. APS-C will always have its place as a very good compromise between cost and quality, if you choose carefully. Most people don't really need any better quality than APS-C and good lens can provide.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

lazerbean

I kind of agree, although I understand why Fuji did what they did and it is probably the right strategy, and I love what they are doing, but just because I so much love their cameras and lenses I just can't help thinking that a Fujifilm FF line of cameras could be just perfect. I still think it is a future possibility, once the X and GFX lines are mature and Fujifilm has become an even more established cameramaker.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

ekaton

Size matters. A sensor surface of 368 square millimeters compares unfavourably to FF's 860 square millimeters. The laws of physics apply, even to Fuji.

Nov 10, 2018permalink

And no one can tell when looking at a printed photo or a photo posted online if it was taken with a FF sensor of crop sensor. The old debate holds no water.

Dec 1, 2018*permalink

Nikoncanonfan

ikaika doesn't sound like you've shot with a GFX camera, its honestly on another planet, its not just about pixels its the whole look of the image. You can bet the Apsc fujis would be FF if they had to start again with a clean slate they are in a hole for improving the small sensor further while FF just widens the gap

Dec 1, 2018permalink

NickyB66

Fujifilm makes some excellent, all round cameras these days. I have an X Pro with a few X prime lenses and they are excellent. Thought about the XT3, but will await for the X Pro 2, as sorts and fast action focus are not my thing.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

The XPro2 has been our for years.
You want the XPro3.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

dscobie62

No need to wait for an X Pro2 it's been out for approx. 2 years. I assume you mean a possible X Pro 3?

Nov 8, 2018permalink

LMAO. Is this you Patrick?

Nov 8, 2018permalink

HB1969

xpro1 released 2012, xpro2 released 2016....if the trend continues, we may not see an xpro3 until 2020.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

Geekapoo

Dpreview.com was "spot on" with the D750 (loved it) and again nail it with the XT3. It is a wonderful camera.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

semorg

X-T3 has a bad reliability issue.

At least according to a thread on the EOSHD. Users are seeing multiple failure only just after a month.

I’m curious if others are seeing a similar issues?

Nov 8, 2018permalink

panther fan

Well the X-T1 and X-T2 didn't have a stellar reputation, and for the X-T3 the production moved to china.
That said Fuji services seems good if your model is affected and without any hard data we cannot say how large the problem really is. Could also just be overblown

Nov 8, 2018permalink

FuhTeng

The threads on the X forum was why I kept my Z6 pre-order. random freezing, purple pictures, random other bugs? Sheesh.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

So far, no issue with the 1.5 year old X-T20 and with the new X-T3.

I just dislike the frond sync connector..

Regards

Nov 8, 2018permalink

adomolis

People here talk as if Fuji is the only one with issues from time to time. Surely Nikon had no oily shutter problem? Sony had no star eating problems, ovedrheating.? etc etc etc. theres tons of examples.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Tom_A

Re: comments about the grip. I have the xt2 which I believe is ergonomically similar. The small grip is sufficient to me. But, for people who prefer a bigger grip, Fuji offers an accessory with a bigger grip.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Androole

I understand the idea of accessory grips - I use a hotshoe thumb grip on my GX7 to simulate a much larger grip - but they always seem like an iffy compromise to me. You're taking space that could be very usefully taken advantage of to incorporate a larger battery, better heat dissipation, extra cards or I/O ports, or additional circuitry and instead filling it with a dumb hunk of metal and plastic.

Ergonomics are a very valid reason for adding that dumb hunk of material. And reduced size for cramming your camera with a pancake lens into a purse on a night out is a great argument for NOT having the prominent front grip in the first place. But I feel like there has to be a better way.

Maybe an even slimmer, perfectly flat front with no grip (and thinner battery to match), and an accessory front grip that could incorporate a 2nd identical battery in it, as well as providing really good ergonomics?

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Tom_A

But ergonomics depend on hand size. For my average hands the xt2 is ergonomic. Trump with his small hands might find a big grip unergonomic.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

Androole

I think I have relatively small hands, and don't consider any Fuji other than the X-H1 to be ergonomic in the hands without add-on accessories.

The reason the hotshoe thumb grip on the GX7 works is because it gives me a new handhold that is displaced upwards by 1" and back by 1/2," giving a lot of leverage and allowing me to move my whole grip upwards so that my pinky doesn't fall off the bottom. In effect, it simulates a prominent - both deep and tall - front grip.

Without a very prominent front grip, or a very prominent hook-like thumb grip on the back, none of these small-ish, short-ish mirrorless cameras are really very nice to hold with lenses that weigh more than, say, ~200g.

Just my opinion, though, albeit one supported by experience as an industrial designer. The Camera Ergonomics blog would also support this perspective.

Nov 9, 2018*permalink

TomCodyPleasedToMeetYa

DPR certainly has a love affair with this camera.

has the grip changed much since the XT1? I bought the XT1 and hated the small grip and with the shutter button on the top of the camera, it meant stretching the forefinger back to release the shutter. I couldn't find a comfortable way to hold the camera and took it back. I also thought the AF was awfully slow, but understand that has improved immensely since.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

They have a love affair with all great camera’s of this magnitude. Nothing wrong with liking the best.

Dec 1, 2018permalink

otto k

Awkward - article about Fuji camera ends with (on mobile at least) a link to the lens buying guide, but with no Fuji... Or R/Z/m43...
You need to step up your game before the shopping season starts.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Mariano Pacifico

Now that Fujifilm garnered three time winner in buying guides .... I am now confident of my photos. See, photo viewing is actually more about psychology despite objective findings.

I did a scientific test on how people react to pictures.

I put up a picture absent of camera brand, another picture with lesser known China brand, another with Leica and another picture with Canon and Lens brand including aperture and speed ... and those techie thingie ordinary viewers cannot know what those numbers are ... Guess which picture garnered the most votes ...

Pictures that garnered the most votes are those pictures with the most expensive camera first, 2nd to the last was unbranded picture and the last of the last picture branded with China-made camera.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Just watermark your images with DPreview’s camera score... :)

Nov 8, 2018permalink

(unknown member)

So funny, Mariano. The perception of owning a "winner" is why so many of the pseudo photographers here spend hours arguing about whether the new brand XYZ camera is silver or gold or "deserves" it's score of 89%, and on and on. But then they complain that the XYZ only has "outrageous" or "ridiculous" lenses. Sigh.....

Nov 8, 2018permalink

So the cheapest solution is to just tell people you used a Leica when showing them your pictures.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

FuhTeng

Cue fanboys mad that it's not the winner for EVERY category - best point and shoot, best camera over $2,000, best astrophotography camera, best sports camera, best coffee maker.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

panther fan

Probably also best drone ... :D

Nov 8, 2018permalink

otto k

If you throw it just right

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Aaron801

It slices and dices!

Nov 8, 2018permalink

... a hole in your pocket!

Nov 8, 2018permalink

It sure got the Canikonsony fanboys upset. 😂

Dec 1, 2018permalink

a user

With 18-55 (cheapest kit lens option) it has pretty much the same cost as full-frame D750 with 24-120... But is it as good? (excl. video ofc)

Nov 8, 2018permalink

badi

depends ...
For once you had to say "video excluded", so that is a one big win for the T3.
On IQ alone, i think the nikon lens is better, and coupled with the larger sensor it clearly has a better output fie. A big win for nikon here.
But on every day use, i would chose the T3 every day - smaller package, what is now a beautifully focusing machine and as responsive a DSLR. The responsiveness and AF speed were my main problems in miror-less compared with DSLRs.
Also Nikon wins on the battery life, but Fuji on the dual slot card :))

Nov 8, 2018permalink

coolguy4747

(for the record, D750 also has two card slots)

Nov 8, 2018permalink

badi

tx for the correction!

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Yes, the XT3 beats the D750. Especially when you take XF lenses into account.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Serban Claudiu

Keep dreaming. What lens has Fuji equivalent to Nikon AF-S Nikkor 800mm f/5.6E FL ED VR?

Nov 8, 2018permalink

better than the D750? I can't XD

Nov 8, 2018permalink

I don’t care about the 800mm. I wonder how many people care about that focal length anyway.

As a camera body, the XT3 beats the D750 hands down.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

Serban Claudiu

For what is good 800mm lens? Pro shooting soccer, wildlife pictures, for better compression...

Nov 9, 2018permalink

HB1969

@ Geerling: I'm calling BS on your claim that a 6D+ 2 lenses is cheaper than the XT3
NOWHERE can I find the canon combo for less than 3200AUD (approx 2200USD).
I would checked out your other claims but you lost credibility on the first one.
Secondly, you've chosen to compare old camera models with one that's just released. Why not compare the XT1 price with your other options in that case.

Nov 9, 2018permalink

Hinesbelike

Exactly I recently purchased the xt-1 with at 35mm 1.4 for $600 USD.

For $1500 I could get a xt-1 ($300-400 used), 18-55 ($300 Used), 55-200 ($500 used) and a 35mm 1.4 ($300 Used). Weighing a fraction of the 6d and im not stuck with an ancient auto focus system with 9 auto focus points, no wifi, and one sd card slot.

Nov 19, 2018permalink

princecody

No Real Grip? No IBIS? No buy!

Nov 8, 2018permalink

You must be new to photography.

Dec 1, 2018permalink

photomedium

For the year, can we return to the era of absolutes have a single category and a single winner and call the XT3 the best camera of 2018?

I don't care about the other categories such as what the best camera that can't autofocus is, or the best camera with the worst 4K cropping or the best weather sealed camera with the most banding artifacts, or the best camera with the worst ergonomics etc etc.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Androole

But the A7 III is a better camera in many ways, so I don't think that single category would turn out how you're hoping...

Nov 8, 2018permalink

panther fan

The categories make sense.

For example there are 5 on price: 500 / 1000 / 1500 / 2000 / over 2000
Why should we compare 500$ cameras to 2000$ cameras in the same category?

Cameras also differ vastly in capability across fields. Seperating landscape, sport, video etc... makes a ton of sense. There is not a single camera best in all of them

Nov 8, 2018*permalink

photomedium

Panther, the categories grading is one of those things that work 50% of the time, everytime.
It involves more math but there used to be a parameter called price/performance ratio. That now has been supplanted by the 'target audience' concept, basically brand boytoys will buy whatever they like, money is made in the process, no feathers are ruffled by the reviewers and everyone is happy.
Call me old fashion but sometimes life requires more than a finisher's medal.
I think the XT3 is that product for 2018.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

photomedium

Androole,
Aw shucks! I got confused I thought both the A7III and A7RIII came out in late 2017. ;-)
Well then it is a deathmatch between the A7III and the XT3, I am fine with that as long as a winner is picked.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Carol T

I wouldn't vote for it as best camera.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

ADW59

Is there such a thing as ‘the best camera’ yes we can compare specs but it’s how easily an individual can use it to get the best result. I am a Fuji user and really like the whole system but it just works for me. I have friends with canon, Nikon etc and they are equally happy. Concentrate on the end result and you’ll enjoy using any camera

Nov 8, 2018permalink

mainger

It's great that there is a new contender in the good-all-around range for most of us regular people who are just looking for something that will do most photo/video things well.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

I exchanged my XH1 with XT3. I miss the IBIS already...

Nov 8, 2018permalink

TomCodyPleasedToMeetYa

What about the lack of a decent grip and shutter release that sits forward from the body and nicely sits under the forefinger?

Nov 8, 2018permalink

black pearl

One of the reasons I switched from Nikon DSLR's to the Fujifilm X-T bodies is the smaller grip and shutter release on the top. For me its like having a FM/FE/FA/F3 again - all of which I absolutely loved using.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

User93.....
XH1 looks and feels better than XT series but still I wasn't comfortable holding that. For example you have to remove your shutter finger to press AE-L and even AF-On.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

TomCodyPleasedToMeetYa

ozturet - I bought the XT1 and returned it in favour of the D750. I was tempted to buy the XH1 and was convinced I was going to get it since it seemed to be an XT2 with IBIS and a proper grip and shutter release placed in a comfortable position.

I was really stunned to find that the XH1 was quite uncomfortable. I found the grip just wasn't right for me. I think it was too thin and sharp edged perhaps. I was convinced I would be leaving the camera shop with an XH1, alas no.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

I also felt weird with XH1. EM1 II looks similar but much more comfortable to hold and use.
Still, I think I'll sell XT3 also.

Nov 8, 2018permalink

Hinesbelike

ozturert- Your statements are absolutely false. I shoot my XH-1 with the AFon button at all times and have no problems reaching the shutter and I have tiny hands. Not sure what you're on about....

Nov 19, 2018permalink

Hinesbelike, my statements are my statements. They are not wrong, they are just mine.
Glad that you are happy with XH1.

Nov 19, 2018permalink