Canon issues EOS 5D Mark III firmware v1.1.3, adding 40mm F2.8 support: Digital Photography Review

Canon issues EOS 5D Mark III firmware v1.1.3, adding 40mm F2.8 support

Published Jun 19, 2012 | dpreview staff

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Sad Joe

Solid review of the Nikon D800 D4 and Canon 5D3 on U Tube - check out: Full frame shoot out: D4 vs D800 vs 5Dmk III - not my video-but very interesting.

Jul 6, 2012permalink

DSiegfried

It does NOT support all the features of the 40mm STM lens. Specifically, it doesn't support continuous autofocus in video mode. If Canon knew they had this lens in the pipeline, WHY did they not include the Hybrid AF in the 5D3?? What is the point of a full-frame lens with continuous autofocus in video if NO FULL-FRAME BODY SUPPORTS THE FEATURE??

Jun 27, 2012permalink

Muresan Bogdan

Because no serious videographer will use autofocus. The 5d mark III is aimed at profesionals. Both photographers and movie makers. So a feature like autofocus during movies is normal on entry level bodies, but not on this. Autofocus in movie mode uses Contrast detection and it is not possible to have a smooth focus that will even get close to professional expectations. You can use a USB follow focus to focus easily, it let's you do focus switches with the exact speed you want and much more...

Feb 4, 2013permalink

wy2lam

don't get it - why does firmware need to be upgraded in order to support a new lens?

Jun 23, 2012permalink

EthanX

I don't *know*, but I can guess it might be for adding parameters for a lens correction function, if the 5D has this feature.

Jun 23, 2012permalink

Sad Joe

Well, this simply confirms one of my earlier posts - the 5d Mk3 is already out of date as regards AF (which of course we all knew) and shows that like SONY Canon have different design teams working on different products WHO DON'T SPEAK WITH EACH OTHER - otherwise the 5d Mk3 would have been ready for the new 40mm lens...which I still think is a stupid focal length having owned the Pentax 40mm back in the 1980s' Why oh why didn't Canon take this opportunity to introduce a new 35mm lens ? The current ones are 35 F2 - good lens, but SLOW old AF and the 35mm f1.4 L - lovely but for too many users far too expensive.

Jun 21, 2012permalink

Calvin Chann

You're not speaking for me are you?

Jun 21, 2012permalink

wkay

never heard of software 'features' before. Do the math to determine every possible variety of illogical operating conditions with every possible hardware set that a consumer can apply to a camera and you will see why things get through.

Jun 20, 2012permalink

Hugo808

Why don't manafacturers finish their cameras before selling them?

Jun 20, 2012permalink

DarkShift

Because digital cameras are zillion times more advanced and complicated compared to yeasterdays mechanical stuff.

Be happy that they actually work as good as they do.

Jun 20, 2012permalink

Joseph S Wisniewski

They did finish it. They added something beyond what it was when it was finished, to accommodate a lens that didn't exist at that time.

Jun 20, 2012permalink

Sad Joe

No, they like to keep us 'guessing' - see my new post regarding different design teams NOT TALKING WITH EACH OTHER despite all working for the same manufacturer

Jun 21, 2012permalink

Higuel

jeeezus! why are ppl so blind and ready to say crap to defend brand B or A???

(before any ppl call me nikon lover/or hater or whatever, let me say that for more then a decade my choice has been Canon!
BUT that doesn't mean i'm their blind fan like from a football club! Neither is this Religion- a question of faith!_ THIS IS SIMPLE, WORK, OR DOESN'T WORK EQUIPEMENT SITUATION!!!
Are you going to excuse them also when the 1d mkIII was released with problens in the autofocus!?! Really? A sport's camera?

Give me a brake people, and instead of saying silly things on the web, GET OUT AND TAKE GOOD PICTURES!!!

Jun 21, 2012permalink

aluxious

(sarcasm) Why don't photographers finish their pictures after shooting them? Why do they need to do post processing?

Jul 8, 2012permalink

RawDogg

Does this mean the Mark III will supports continuous focus with the 40MM STM?

Jun 20, 2012permalink

ipopkin

I just called Canon teck support with that very same question. They confirmed to me that that is exactly the case.

Jun 23, 2012permalink

DSiegfried

That's WRONG. I just called Canon tech support and the new 1.1.3 firmware only supports lens corrections, it does NOT support continuous autofocus with the 40mm STM. You need the Hybrid AF for that and the 5D3 doesn't have it. You were either given bad information or you misunderstood.

Jun 27, 2012permalink

Ithackermike

Unspecified change?

Jun 20, 2012permalink

raincoat

Why does it need firmware just to support a lens?

Jun 20, 2012permalink

KieranGee

Because it is a new lens. Not only optically speaking, so any lens corrections that the 5D MkIII has baked in would need to be added for it, but also possibly because this particular lens uses a type of motor to drive the autofocus that Canon have not previously used. This might mean that the camera needs to treat it differently when focussing.

Jun 20, 2012permalink

eyeport

hiya, not sure really why. If it's because 40mm is a new lens then all other cameras like 5dmk2 would all need firmware updates! LOL

Jun 20, 2012permalink

KieranGee

Well it's entirely possible I'm wrong about one or both of my suggestions, I am just guessing after all. I'd say that the most likely of my two theories is that it has to do with the software based lens corrections, which no other Canon camera has, making it a pretty safe bet that the update affects that.

Jun 20, 2012permalink

Calvin Chann

Because, unlike previous cameras in the range, the 5D3 has enough processing power to apply corrections in-camera. Hence, for each new lens they release, they will need to update the firmware so that the corrections can be applied correctly. There now, wasn't that difficult to understand was it?

Jun 21, 2012permalink

ENicolas

Does it come with a piece of black tape to fix the light leak from the top LCD?

Jun 19, 2012permalink

JadedGamer

No, the 0.1% of owners who use it in long-exposure, low-light situations where the problem would occur, and who are unable to compensate for that in post, can get the tape they need from any department store.

Jun 21, 2012permalink

aluxious

Sorry black tapes cannot be downloaded off the internet, silly

Jul 8, 2012permalink

Absolutic

my 40mm F/2.8 has been working fine with 5DM2 and 7D..,,, does it actually ad the AF during video ability? Also what do you guys mean "to be released at the end of June" the lens has been on sale at US Biggest Retailer - Best Buy since Sunday, the 17th.

Jun 19, 2012permalink

Richard Butler

It's not us meaning anything: everything below the line is Canon's writing.

Jun 19, 2012permalink

Absolutic

Oops, Sorry, Richard, of course, it is an official release from Canon.

Jun 19, 2012permalink

Denton Taylor

Phenomenon? lol. Used to be called BUGS.

Jun 19, 2012permalink

Richard Butler

That's why we used the word bugs, not phenomenon. Canon used the word phenomenon.

Jun 19, 2012permalink

Ruy Penalva

Phenomenon is a Latin word and means something "unexpected":
MW Unabridged;
a : a fact or event in the changing and perceptible forms as distinguished from the permanent essences of things: as (1) : a mutable, caused, or developing aspect of things as contrasted with their fixed and substantial natures (2) : a perceptible aspect or appearance of things as contrasted with their true or ideal being (3) : an object of sense perception as distinguished from an ultimate reality (4)

Jun 20, 2012permalink

Richard Butler

Clearly I'm not going to dispute that. But it's also a relatively neutral term - there isn't the assumption that a phenomenon is positive or negative. In a situation in which the LCD won't turn off in certain (presumably rare) circumstances, although it wouldn't be incorrect to call it a phenomenon, it could appear somewhat disingenuous, as it suggests it's just something that happens, not a problem.

As such, it's quite reasonable for Canon to call it a phenomenon but any attempt to impartially report the problem should probably use a term that calls a problem a problem. Hence we used the term 'bug.'

Jun 20, 2012*permalink

SOTUS

The word "phenomenon" is 100% Greek word and means something that is observable

Jun 20, 2012permalink

alexkrich

Does this mean that my 7D won't work with the new 40mm pancake without the firmware update if its own (which is not available)?

Jun 19, 2012permalink

misolo

It should work just fine, but the automatic lens corrections (vignetting, chromatic aberration) won't - which is irrelevant unless you shoot in jpeg mode with the automatic corrections turned on.

Jun 19, 2012permalink

Bosman Photography

Actually Canon is releasing a 7d firmware update and i comes with a pile of improvements.
http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/06/canon-eos-7d-firmware-version-2-coming-soon/

Jun 19, 2012permalink

Calvin Chann

No it won't. I suggest you go and upgrade to a 5d3. :)

Jun 21, 2012permalink

EmmanuelStarchild

I have a 35mm and 50mm prime lens. No need for this.

Jun 19, 2012permalink

misolo

Thanks for sharing this important information.

Jun 19, 2012permalink

EmmanuelStarchild

You're welcome. :-)

Jun 19, 2012permalink

Breitling

I don't have 35mm and 50mm primes. So?

Jun 20, 2012permalink

JadedGamer

I think he means that if you do not have the one-two punch magnificent combo of a 35mm and a 50mm then you need this...?

Jun 20, 2012permalink

BaldCol

I don't have a 5D so why are DPR reporting this clearly irrelevant piece of news.

Jun 20, 2012permalink

aluxious

I only have the 35mm, so......I need this somewhat?

Jul 8, 2012permalink

Zafar Kazmi

Does this mean that the new 40mm will not work on 5D Mark II until a firmware update is provided?

Jun 19, 2012permalink

misolo

It should work just fine, but the automatic lens corrections (vignetting, chromatic aberration) won't - which is irrelevant unless you shoot in jpeg mode with the automatic corrections turned on.

Jun 19, 2012*permalink

Petka

a) Camera is brand new, and now already Canon has to fix problems. How can they let unfinished products get to the market? Canon is on the decline, seriously!

b) Great service, Canon! even the small details are immediately fixed and new products accommodated in firmware, pronto! I hope other companies were as good! Future looks great!

(just trying to cover all angles and save much unnecessary postings...)

Jun 19, 2012permalink

AbrasiveReducer

Well done. And sadly, exactly spot on.

Jun 19, 2012permalink

CAYMANTED

Just downloaded today's firmware update for the 5D3, on my Mac
Book Pro, and I can't get the file to self extract. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Jun 19, 2012permalink

Damon Lynch

Delete it, and download it again. You may have had a corrupted download.

Jun 19, 2012permalink

pcook

+1 no problem on my mac

Jun 20, 2012*permalink

D1N0

use windows

Jun 20, 2012permalink

eyeport

Such a funny comment Petka! Covering all angles.. hahaha

Jun 20, 2012permalink

Chaitanya S

Nikon D800 has far serious issues of its own. It cant still reliably trigger speed light wirelessly. chk this link for more details: http://nikonrumors.com/2012/06/18/rumor-second-nikon-d800-firmware-update-coming-out-soon.aspx/

Jun 20, 2012permalink

JadedGamer

The Mac download is a drive image (.dmg) file, should open as a "volume" in Finder. Then you can copy oper the .fir file and read the instructions in the folder with PDFs.

Jun 20, 2012permalink

Calvin Chann

It's not the first camera to be updated shortly after launch, and I'm sure it won't be the last. I seem to remember that there was one camera that was updated before the camera itself was widely available.

Jun 21, 2012permalink

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Canon issues EOS 5D Mark III firmware v1.1.3, adding 40mm F2.8 support

Firmware Version 1.1.3 incorporates the following improvements and fixes:

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