Samsung NX1 firmware 1.40 adds digital video IS and AF while zooming

Mitch452 said, mistakenly, "Stabilization for video should have been there from the get-go, along with everything else they neglected to include until years later. " You don't get it. Stabilzation was always there for video, same as the Panasonics and Canons - based on the OIS in the lens. This ADDS digital stabilization which works either with or instead of OIS for any lens from any manufacturer. No other camera in its class has this feature, and it works really well in stabilizing video with little visible loss in quality. This feature was never "on the box". It is new, and I daresay totally unexpected. A bonus, not a fix or a late promised feature.

I dont know of any camera that has kept its listprice for so long as the NX1, that should be proof for good sales of it.
From where do you here that it is not selling well?
H2.65 opens fine in powerdirector and plays well with potplayer, with more supporting software to follow.
Since you threw out that there was too many software features lacking, could you please mention which features you are missing?

I consider the NX1 to be the most feature packaged camera out there, connectivity features are unbeaten, fps unbeaten, APS-C Megapixel count unbeaten, Video support unbeaten.
Unbeaten Dpreview test score and very much improved since that.
High ISO performance only beaten by the d7200 but not by much, NX1 outperforms all Canon and Sony APS-c dslr´s regarding High ISO performance.

You can hardly blame samsung for apple not supporting NX1 raw.

/Mats

Windows 10 supports H265 natively. Its two built-in video players play H265 files, and you see thumbnails of H265 clips. The last two generation Intel chips (including Atoms) hardware decode H265.

Mitch452: So will Sony fix their overheating with a firmware? Should they have got it right before release? Canon have notoriously fixed issues in firmware after release!! Samsung are fixing issues and adding features and by doing this setting the bar really high for other manufacturers.

Lots of desperate, miserable, hapless NX1 owners pimping and putting their insecurities on display as usual. Howaboutraw should be here soon with his usual outrage,, how very dare you criticize this camera! I will agree that the video on this camera is brilliant,, but the stills AF tracking is comical,, even a t2i with 4 fps will give you more keepers in field sports than this turd will at 15 fps.

Pentax has digital stabilisation during video mode, despite having sensor based shake reduction, and it's sht. Hope Samsungs isn't like Pentax's, though it would be really hard to be that bad, even if you tried.

Don't get the firmware knockers. Lol I said knockers. Still, updates to new features is awesome. You simply can't deliver the software you'll develop in a year or two's time, so saying it should be there from the start is super stupid.

Canon has only done well in the video scene by virtue of Magic Lantern providing the software their hardware deserved in the first place.

Juck:

Well like you say, I'm here, but all I'm going to say is "Whine Apple doesn't support NX1 raws" is tiresome to read given that Apple dropped serious raw extraction software development.

Haven't tried shooting sports with the NX1 and latest firmware, but Imaging Resource didn't seem to have any problem months ago.

I wish the NX1 had fewer pixels and better high ISO performance, would also like 2 card slots.

Others have already well defended the camera here. And it is an excellent camera, but it's the access to better Samsung lenses that make it stand out a bit from Canon APSC DSLRs--though I guess SigmaArts help the Canon.

I just shot the Blue Angels flying at each other at 500+ MPH and the focus tracking was very good...lots of keepers. Juck, you may be thinking about an older firmware. With even the 1.3x firmwares, AF tracking is pretty amazing.

Markr041:

Careful, just so you know Windows 10 is full of MS keyloggers, this is not simply about meta data either.

As for H265, on a fast Win7 machine it will play--I find Light Alloy to be the best.

However native editing is more important.

NX1 being canned by a guy with a Canon M about focusing? Oh and a 7D that got silver? and has a sensor thats 4-5 years old?????

There will always be 2 viewpoints with firmware updates

- Company x sold me an incomplete product and is adding features that should be there from day 1 or,
- Company x sold me a product that is improving over time and increasing it's life span

Likewise, using your Canon analogy:
- Canon sold me a product which they make sure it works as advertised therefore there is no need for firmware or,
- Canon sold me a product with no goals for improving so they can sell me the upgrade which has more features down the track

Pick your side. There's no winner's in this eternal debate

Good to see so many people hate on Samsung by other brand fanboys. It's a good sign for Samsung. They are finally being seen as a competitor and a threat. The Canikon fanboys feel insecure about their manufacturer because their manufacturer have really been slacking on development or have priced the features they want into their unaffordable professional line. Oh look, Canon just released the exact camera I wanted, except it's not $3000, it's $12,000. Booohoo.

Mitch:

There aren't major problems the NX1 and there weren't at release time. (Albeit H265 video is still a stretch for many computers.)

Since when do you count the lens price as part of the body, that's not how say one would ever price a Nikon D750.

You've describe the expensive kit, and there is a less expensive NX1 kit too.

There are excellent inexpensive Samsung lenses, like the f/1.8 45mm--that one is less than $300. That you chose not to buy one is not a deficiency of the camera.

Look, if the camera is not for you by all means return it, or sell it.

I see Samsung NX bodies on the street about as much as I see Sony full framed mirrorless bodies.

Don't see many Pentax DSLRs.

See a few Fuji XT1s, but not the XE2.

I see some Olympus + Panasonic mirrorless.

Probably see as many Leica Ms as I see all varieties of Sony A7s.

The standard good tourist camera remains an APSC Canikon DSLR. Then there are some Canikon+Sony+Panasonic+Olympus cameras with big zooms. After that comes small P&Ses from Canon, Panasonic and Sony.

Only then does one see Sony APSC mirrorless and other smaller mirrorless bodies.

It is sad but true!!!

Between Samsung and Fuji they are making the cameras that keep on improving and improving even more!

I am kind of jealous as a Canon shooter to see they have a much better commitment to their costumers (listening to them and adding features and stuff that is useful) and ironing bugs.

Though I also think it may be a poor marketing plan from Samsung too, they should be doing more fanfarre and live demos... heck they could even open a whole effing youtube channel for this camera to talk about its features!!!

What is sad is that here in spain the camera isn't available yet... (And I would loooove to test drive it!!)

If Canon had the NX1 it would sell for double the price. Just look at the XC1 .

VP:

In the USA Samsung did a trade your old working DSLR in for a new NX30--two events one on the west coast and the first on the east coast.

But no, I can't speak to Samsung marketing in Spain.

EH:

I live in the US, and I see about 1 M a week on the street. More in vacation months.

Now that I've stated this, I'll see zero Ms for 8 weeks and 5 A7s in the next week.

That's how it works.

Old Camera:

The NX system has close to a full range of lenses, though no Samsung has not shipped the big fast 300mm yet--they've shown it.

Many of the NX lenses are optically very good, and some are amazing. There are a few of questionable optical quality too.

This is far from the first Samsung NX camera.

Still image quality from NX cameras has been good since the first one released in 2010.

"Where is their full range of lenses and accessories? It will never exist." And it won't have to. That truckload of 'L" lenses and accessories will be obsolete (to a professional) in 10 to 15 years --the very idea of what a photographer is and does is changing radically, as is the equipment. *Video* is taking over, and going where? I can't see --but I suspect it's the younger upstarts like Samsung who will be at the forefront (Sony? maybe...)

Agreed. If Nikon or Canon released a camera like this, it would garner as much attention as.... the A7RII, essentially a FF version of the NX1 in my eyes.

Old Camera, what's wrong with a camera sharing the same brand name as your washing machine or television? Is it worse than if it shares the same brand name as your printer or the copier at the office? Only Nikon and Leica have cameras and lenses as their main business among the major manufacturers, so are those the only camera brands that people feel comfortable buying?

Revenant, actually cameras have only been Leica's main business quite recently, after the company was split up. Leica also makes microscopes etc (different company, same brand) which is a bigger business I believe. Nikon is also very active in other imaging areas and they are probably very large earners. Nikon is also owned by Mitsubishi of course. But you're right that the image of Nikon and Leica is cameras. Keeping the camera companies going probably helps the prestige of the other, higher earning, branches. Maybe Samsung also hopes that producing top-quality cameras and lenses will also give it wider credibility.

Der steppenwolf, did you compare both head to head? I didn't so I can't speak about the difference. But I assure you that DIS in video coupled with a stabilized lens looks like the camera is on a cheap gimbal. Which is outstanding imo.

Well.. IBIS means In Body Image Stabilisation... do you say that DIS is outside the body..?? Fact is that it works really well for Video and it works together with ILIS wich by the way means In Lens Image Stabilisation.

Tell me any other DSLR that offers that?

Where does the need for rudeness come? Is it really necessary to make personal attacks in your posts? Follow your own advice.. THINK before you post

The 16-50 is f/2-2.8, an absolutely unique lens, which adds a lot to the cost he cited. Besides, I noticed the only thing you were able to brag about was sensor size.

Does your full-frame also shoot 4k video, 15fps, 120fps 1080p video, focus peaking, touch screen, and of course a company that releases firmwares every few months with new features?

Never really got the FF is massive thing, when digital MF is out there. If you really want to go down that line, the difference between APS-C and FF is relatively tiny compared to FF vs MF.

It's such a stupid line to assume that FF = pro or better etc. Sensor size should be determined by what you need to shoot and what look you're aiming for, not by advertising/being a sheep.

"It's the only way." Nonsense --it just lowers the level of discourse further.

It's a great question. With Samsung, one of our challenges in the original review was keeping up with firmware updates. In fact, we had a review ready to push out a couple months earlier, but a few days before it was published Samsung released a firmware update that rendered much of it out of date.

Don't get me wrong, it's an incredibly impressive camera. I just don't hear very much about Samsung in either mirrorless or SLR (which this might as well be) discussions, which is a shame.

Maybe if the NX500 had been slightly less dammed with faint praise the system would be more in the spotlight..

If any camera was going to carry the APS-C Pro torch it was this, but I'd honestly forgotten it exists and meanwhile the internet is on fire for Sony FF - like everyone forgot this already did 99% of what the A7rii can do months ago.

Oh well.

The camera is very impressive, but I marked it off my list when Samsung made the decision to cripple it by not including IBIS.

Sheep mentality maybe? I too have been tempted by the A7RII, but from what I am seeing it could be another Sony that halves (or worse) its value over 2 years. I don't trust Sony to fix the issues with firmware after owning an A900 which has zero firmware updates. So currently if I jumped from the NX! I would be poorer, (a lot) I would lose 120fps at 1080, I would lose 15fps, and I would gain a camera that turns off after a short time videoing. I would gain FF, which is appealing, and about 2 stops of low light. It does amaze me how much the Sony is being gushed over versus the absolute silence of the Samsung that is batting way above it weight and probably Sony fanboys should thank Samsung for some of the features that Sony added to the A7RII. Samsung need to start communicating their lens map accurately. Even some Ambassadors? My NX1 over the weekend gained stabilising that now allows me to shoot hand held video with lots of legacy glass! Significant..YES

This camera costs about the same as an a7ii, but aps-c is just less sexy.. I do think it was an own-goal styling this so much like a curvy DSLR, I know they did it on the assumption that people want to look credible when they turn up to a wedding shoot, but Fuji/Olympus sell more XT1/EM1s at a comparable price with half the features so go figure.

Would more lenses make the difference? Its not like Sony has many lenses, although they do advertise their road map more.. Marketing? Maybe if the NX500 had an efv and took down the a6000 and got people into the system?

I'm not really sure what I'd say to a Samsung engineer at this point, except maybe just pat them on the back. It seems like at a certain price point everyone expects full frame, and camera performance isn't key, unless you have a cult following like the 7d.

I think as a still camera the NX1 is overpriced, as a Still camera with killer video its an absolute bargain. So depends how you look at it.

NX1 crippled without IBIS? Nikon, Canon, Panasonic? I would say that a camera that overheats after between 8 to 40 minutes in video is what I would class as crippled. :-) I think if the NX2 had IBIS it would still be a small seller because of peoples perceptions of the brand, only sales success and time can remedy this. In the mean time the NX1 is still a strong contender on many video based forums and after the weekend many are reconsidering it.

I suspect that to a large extent, Samsung designs and builds especially for their captive Korean market. For example, the NX500 has no EVF....why? Because Koreans don't want or need one. Never mind the rest of the world.

I've got an NX1 and I'm very happy with it. If people weren't so tied to other systems due to lens collections, I think the NX1 and NX500 sales would be much better.

FodgeandDurn:

The A7RII is nice camera, it has compressed raws. Is not particularly sealed against the weather. The NX1 does not use compressed raws, and is well sealed.

And the A7RII costs more than twice as much as the Samsung NX1--this will not change in 12 months time.

As others have pointed out, there aren't widespread reports of overheating while shooting 4K video with the NX1, unlike shooting 4K with the Sony.

When Sony first introduced the A7 series it was clearly going to be a big deal. But the mechanical shutter remained very audible until the release of this new A7RII.

Sony has a lot to be proud of with the A7RII, but it is an expensive body, without a second card slot and Sony has so far refused to do full 14 bit raws.

like you can think of original? Samsung created chips for iPhone and there's Samsung AMOLED and etc...

Samsung released the first apsc mirrorless camera. Some what original I think.

Actually, the NX10 was announced several months before the NEX-3 and -5, which were announced in the summer of 2010. So much for the frequent accusation that Samsung copied the NEX name, when naming their system NX.