Canon announces two EF-M lenses to accompany EOS M mirrorless camera: Digital Photography Review

Canon announces two EF-M lenses to accompany EOS M mirrorless camera

Published Jul 23, 2012 | dpreview staff

Canon EF-M 22mm F2 STM and Canon EF-M 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 STM IS

Canon EF-M 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 STM IS

Canon EF-M 22mm F2 STM

In addition to compatibility with Canon’s existing EF lenses1, accessories and Speedlites, the EOS M launches with its own bespoke range of compact accessories. Two new EF-M lenses offer portability and high performance when using the new model – the EF-M 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM standard zoom and the EF-M 22mm f/2 STM pancake lens. Both feature new Stepper Motor technology for exceptionally smooth AF performance, as well as precision Canon optics, while their compact designs offer the perfect form-factor to complement the camera’s pocket-sized body.

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samhain

The camera is pretty cool....but Lol @ those lenses! Woah, a slow-ass 18-55mm kit zoom, where do I pre-order?!? :)
Seriously, they should've took a page from the Fuji lens playbook.
And how does 22mm=35mm focal length on aps-c?
Shouldn't that read 33mm?

Jul 24, 2012permalink

szal

No. The Canon crop factor is not 1.5×, but 1.6×.

Jul 25, 2012permalink

kodachromeguy

"Slow-ass kit zoom." Exactly what the standard Joe Suburban soccer mom buys with his/her Rebel.

Aug 5, 2012permalink

qwertyasdf

I'm gonna repeat it again and again and again.
You've gotta gotta gotta gotta have a decent ultra-wide lens for a mirrorless system.

This is because landscape photographers:

A)Do not care for slow AF
B) Do not care for FF DOF
C) Do not have to change settings rapidly, thus do not care for bad ergonomics
D) Do not care for super high ISO performance (applicable to older M43 sensors)

AND

E) Cares for the weight of gears.

Do not call me a girl for the last point (Actually girls take landscape photos too). If you never went on a photography trip for a whole week, you will not understand how the fatigue builds up.

Jul 24, 2012permalink

3tagebart

Very true words qwertyasdf. But you can use the EF-S 10-22 (385 g) with the adapter. Should be a relatively lightweight package.

Jul 24, 2012permalink

qwertyasdf

Can't be too kind to Canon
Can't just call it a complete system because it has an adapter...
it's a solution, but it's one step forward and half step back! haha

If Panasonic just lower the price of their 7-14, everything is sorted out.

Jul 24, 2012permalink

samhain

Dude, it's Canon your talking about- you'll have to buy 2 mediocre lenses before they release a 'L' quality version. And then as soon as you buy it, they'll release a stabilized(IS) version :)

Jul 24, 2012permalink

dorianlee

Lens roadmap, please Canon!

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Sdaniella

No need... by offering just the few 'starter kit' EF-M lens, it will satisfy the majority who will be 'base entry' shooters who don't mind the 'base' EOS-M body (less featured than any prosumer model).

And anyone wanting to shift to go all out for other focal lengths and zooms of other lenses already have most of it mapped out with pre-existing EOS EF/EF-S lens family. That's why the EOS-M EF-Adaptor already exists.

Although I've never been keen on 'smartphone/tablet-pad' touchscreen systems, which is how the EOS-M will function when carried around apart from its lens. Imagine a whole set of 'bodies' being used to shoot/review 'on set' for a film shoot?

Super35 film/video schools and 'micro' studios could have bundles of bodies, much more readily transportable, along with ENTIRE SET of various lenses of the entire focal length range of EF/EFS for either Stills or Cine-Video.

more advanced users will go with the next body, a prosumer one instead.

Jul 24, 2012*permalink

Sdaniella

The only lens remaining of interest to me on an APS-C system is always the 'golden' focal length of 24mm FOV (equivalent), thus it could be a fast flat prime wide 15mm instead of the long-ish 22mm now offered.

If Canon balks on offering 24mm on its PowerShot G series (it has held off for too long), then an EOS-M with an EF-M 15mm STM pancake lens is what will interest me. (24mm FOV equivalent)

Jul 24, 2012permalink

JesperMP

Absolutely need a roadmap. It must be one of the most important informations for when a whole new camera system is launched. Very odd for Canon to not announce the roadmap together with the camera.

Jul 24, 2012permalink

Gesture

Kit should be choice of lens, $100 extra for both.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

goblin

Wow !

Canon managed to copy all of the weak points of the existing mirorless offerings: no onboard flash, no articulated screen, no EVF, NO EVF PORT (!!!), in one sweep :D

REALLY, CANON ?!?

PS: Any word on the AF with the lenses through adapter ? CDAF ? PDAF ? Hybrid ?

Jul 23, 2012permalink

PatMann

PDAF on the sensor per the report.

Jul 24, 2012permalink

Uaru

I do not find lack of onboard flash a weakness - it always provides horrible results. I think it is a good thought to remove the flash from camera, but put it in the box.

Jul 27, 2012permalink

BJL

DPReview reports slower AF on the 22/2 pancake due to it not using internal focusing, where only lightweight internal lens elements are moved while the bigger, heavier front elements stay put.

Is this an inherent problem with pancake lenses, or can there be pancakes with fast internal focusing?

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Chas2

Yes, just look at the Panasonic 14mm f2.5 as a perfect example of an internally focusing pancake.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

BJL

Thanks @Chas2 Looking around, that is so far the only IF pancake, but at least it show that there is hope. I expect more now that the combination of lightweight internal focusing groups driven by small linear stepper motors is taking of as the best approach for mirrorless systems (Olympus, Panasonic and Canon all doing it in some of their lenses.)

Jul 23, 2012*permalink

Valentinian

The sensor is great (at least in principle - let's wait for the review), the 22mm lens seems also very good; too bad Canon didn't make a camera to compete with the E-M5, GH3...
(are they afraid it would compete with their own DSLR ?)

Jul 23, 2012*permalink

trekkeruss

This new Canon is much more akin to a NEX-5N than the high-end M4/3.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

nelsonal

Amazon has the 22mm MTF chart, it looks quite similar to the recent 40, so I'd expect good things from it.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

peevee1

5N? It is more like Oly E-PM1 or Pana GF5.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

stelioskritikakis

i'd like an EF version of the 22mm f/2 :D
just like the 40mm 2.8 pancake

Jul 23, 2012permalink

nemark

...and 10 or 12mm UWA prime pancake, too.
(of the quality of the 40mm)
;-)

Jul 23, 2012permalink

AshMills

Presumably the adapter for EF lenses is not optical, so should be dirt cheap?

Jul 23, 2012permalink

ThePhilips

It would have to contain conversion electronics. So dirt cheap they will not be.

For the taste of price, you can check prices for 1st party FourThirds to MicroFourThirds adapters: Olympus MMF-2, Olympus MMF-3 (weather-sealed) and Panasonic DMW-MA1. (In Germany - 140€ and upwards.)

Edit1: The simple Sony's Alpha to NEX adapter in Germany also goes for 140€.

Jul 23, 2012*permalink

JackM

I think it will have to be optical, due to the difference in flange-to-sensor distance.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

ZAnton

@JackM,
they do have a lens - made of air. :) This air-lens increases the flange-sensor distance.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Liamness

Nope. When mounting SLR lenses to a CSC camera, you just need an empty tube of the correct length, to replicate the flange distance the lens was designed for. You only need glass if it's the other way around, such as mounting FD glass onto an EOS mount.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

JackM

Right, so that has the same effect as an extension tube. Won't EF lenses then behave as macro-only? You won't be able to focus at longer distances.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Karl Gnter Wnsch

@JackM, you got it the wrong way around! The EF-M lens would be an extreme Macro lens when mounted on a DSLR even if the adapter were 0 mm in length. The EOS EF or EF-S lens mounted on the extension tube (which basically the adapter is) OTOH will behave just like it should as it is used at the correct distance from the sensor due to the adapter...

Jul 23, 2012permalink

gdfthr73

It is not optical but not dirt cheap. B&H pre order is $199 U.S.
Since Flange distance is farther for EF lenses an extension is all you need. Would be cool to see an FD adaptor too!

Jul 23, 2012permalink

nemark

I`d expect it to cost somewhere as a Extension Tube EF 25 II, but third party adapters should go for much less.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

PatMann

Just like the Nikon 1 adapter - just over $200 for an extension tube with electronic connections extended. About the price of a full-frame film SLR.

Jul 24, 2012permalink

Koulang

Why there is no wide angle or tele lenses like 10mm, 200m or 300mm for mirroless camera?

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Plastek

Cause you'll more likely want real, ergonomic and potent camera for shooting with 300mm lens instead of running around with tiny mirrorless.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

WT21

You mean primes? Panasonic has a pretty nice 100-300mm tele, and I use it on my tiny EPM1.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Gothmoth

boy this is a new model line...
do you think they will introduce all lenses at once?

which company does that...???

Jul 23, 2012permalink

nemark

EF 200 and 300mm lenses via adapter should be OK, if you want them, but I`d appreciate a 10 or 12mm compact and quality (and cheap ;)) rectilinear prime. I miss one for xxxD (APS-C) line, too.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

oysso

no need. You have adapter to the EF-lenses.
Only small lenses are needed for this camera.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Koulang

I miss Panasonic 100-300mm. Thanks for telling me!

I refer to pancake lenses because I saw the IQ of the 40mm being excellent and good price too. If 10mm Pancake or 300mm would take away some photographers from big DSLR.

Jul 24, 2012permalink

oluv

no pancake zoom? WTF?

Jul 23, 2012permalink

douple

street photography lens, no need to zoom

Jul 23, 2012permalink

gdfthr73

Take your zoom and shove it. Primes Rule!

Jul 23, 2012permalink

oluv

what primes? there is only one!

Jul 24, 2012permalink

ZAnton

As usual insane pricing: Price of the 18-55 STM > Canon 18-55 IS mkII + Mount adapter.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

walnist

Hopefully IQ will be higher too?

Jul 23, 2012permalink

ZAnton

18-55 IS is already good enough. It is sharp at all lengthes from corner to corner.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

snackwells

Remember that the fit, finish, and quality of the materials play into the pricing, and from the looks of it, the STM has a metal mount and far better fit/finish.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

PatMann

They have to suck all the money out of the early adopters before they reduce the price to something that fits with the rest of the market. Same as NEX, same as Nikon 1. It's just marketing.

Jul 24, 2012permalink

qwertyasdf

EOS-M (298) + 18-55 kit (120) = 418g
650D (575) + 18-55 kit (200) = 775g

418 / 775 = 53.9%

Weight savings are nice for kit lens users.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

nemark

But no EVF sucks for us with aging eyes (all of you shall get sunken to that coast), so I`ll stick to xxxD EOS cameras so far.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

peevee1

The 18-55/3.5-5.6 is 29-88mm/5.6-9 FF eq. 418g with protruding lens. 4 fps. $1000 or so.

Sony RX100 1.8-4.9, is 28-100mm/5-13 FF eq. 240g almost flat. 10 fps. $650.

Why would anybody even think to buy the EOS-M for the 18-55 use?

Jul 23, 2012permalink

TristanW

very good EOS-M 22/2 lens. Seems my waiting E24/1.8za has chance to buy with normal price now.

Jul 23, 2012*permalink

ZAnton

They would better make good 35mm f/1.8 of f/2 for normal DSLRs.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Jun2

These lenses look like SONY

Jul 23, 2012permalink

TristanW

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Michael Jardine

Sure do. Looks like OEM to me.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

pc168

Ugly. In terms of finishing, Pan's 14-42 X is the best looking kit lens.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Katie Piecrust

Who buys their lens based on how it looks? Isn't performance what matters most to you? I'd happily use the ugliest lens ever created in the history of photography if it meant I was also getting the sharpest lens ever made in the history of photography lol. :)

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Plastek

Katie - sadly: it's never like that. And if I pay large pile of money for something - it'd want it to look decently. (That's one of the reasons why I will never buy X-Pro 1 which looks like plastic toy from '90s)

That said - I don't think that EF-M lenses look ugly. They're ok. But at the same time - they do look like an OEM from Sony. Seems like they got some agreement behind the desk - even flange focal distance is the same as in NEX as far as I'm aware.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

gdfthr73

Or Nikon 1.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Gesture

Just as in the film 35mm SLR days, there is clearly a commonality of design elements and components that OEMs draw from. I doubt that all these companies arrived at the same design solutions independently, right down to the icons on buttons. I think the medium format SLRs probably had the most distinctive individual design and components. Bronica SLR, Pentax SLR, Mamiya RB, Hasselblad, etc.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

EsVeeFoto

What about a tele zoom? It will be interesting to see how compact it will be.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

photonius

Don't expect wonders. The sensor is still APS-C, so we are in the same physical constrained realm as the Rebel bodies. A 55-250 lens would essentially be that same as the existing 55-250IS. And longer lenses will still be like EF lenses, because focal length is focal length (unless you make fancy things like with the DO lenses), and f stop is f-stop (i.e. focal length divided by diameter of light intake).
The reason that P&S have small "long" teles, is that the sensor is much smaller, so that effectively a 100mm lens is like a 400mm or whatever. Effectively, you take your FF or APS-C sensor, and crop. In the future, when they have 100 Mp APS-C sensors, you just crop like crazy to get the same effect as a P&S camera.

Jul 23, 2012*permalink

Chaitanya S

22mm lens will make a good combo with the EOS-M

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Liamness

Very reminiscent of the GF1 + 20mm combination, which is a very fun combination.

Jul 23, 2012permalink

Alex P Scorsch

This preview doesn't make any mention of manual focusing. Does anyone know if it is possible to focus manually?

Jul 24, 2012permalink

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