Have Your Say: Best Gear of 2017

The term " Best" is so vague anyone can choose what they like. This poll is simply a survey of people who reads Dpreview and the result shows simply the highest number of votes for that category. If "best" equals highest votes, then Leicas are the opposite - worst cameras ;)

@Barney Britton Maybe the reason they weren't in the Best Gear of 2017 review...? :)

Nikon will probably update the D5, D750 and the D500.

So, don't hold your breath about that switch back. BTW, Kind of a strange thing to be worried about.

osv - I don't know where your figures came from. I'm talking about THIS award for best product of 2017, in which D850 got 25.5%, beating the world's best mirrorless (a7Riii) which had 22.6%. You are talking about the combined scores of two mirrorless cameras, which is a different thing.

sounds like your flapping mirror is clouding your reading comprehension skills ;-)

because your exact words were: "Traditional DSLR beats the world's best mirrorless."

don't try moving the goal posts... the a7riii had more votes than the d850 in the previous round, that was already settled.

osv - No it is you that is having trouble comprehending what was written and it is you who is trying to move the goalposts. I said "Traditional DSLR beats the world's best mirrorless.". In that quote, the words "DSLR" and "mirrorless" are in the singular. I did NOT say "Traditional DSLR beats both of the world's top mirrorless cameras combined", which what you are incorrectly trying to infer.

@entoman- "the words "DSLR" and "mirrorless" are in the singular"

oh? so what's the plural of "mirrorless"? is it "mirrorlesses"?? lol, wrong

you failed to specify a7rii vs. d850, and now that you are wrong, you are trying to move the goalposts... it's because you, as a dslr owner, aren't capable of admitting what sony accomplished this year with the a7riii and the a9.

no company has anything close to that, in any of the segments listed here... the a9 in particular is an engineering tour de force

It was hardly necessary to specify D850 and a7Riii, as they were in 1st and 2nd place in the awards, so quite obviously everyone apart from you understood exactly what I meant in my lighthearted post. Why are you so desperate to turn this into a deeper debate? Lighten up buddy, and have a good Xmas!

osv - dude you are being pathetic. You really need to chill out and stop being so defensive. DSLR and mirrorless are equally good, just different. As stated in my post I expect mirrorless to win next year. Good grief, get over it.

@entoman - you really do need to get over yourself, lol... mirrorless won this year, and it'll win next year, so get used to it.

and no, dslr and mirrorless are not "equally good"... see how you keep trying to move the goal posts from dslr vs mirrorless to a7riii vs. d850, and then back again to dslr vs mirrorless? it's proof that you were trying to troll mirrorless all along.

you deliberately posted flame-bait, and then trolled it multiple times.

grow up boy

You're a good man, Barney. That sounds most reasonable.

sony doesn't make dslrs anymore

Michael - REALLY?

Nikon D750 lacklustre?
Sony a7Riii lacklustre?
Sony a9 lacklustre?

You gotta be kidding dude.

Iphone has the most realistic colors in daylight. Not only among smartphones, but also dedicated cameras.

... if you don't mind a yellow cast mimicking golden hours during peak sunlight and yellowish skin tones that often make people look like they carry a liver disease...

We got the 85 f/1.4 IS. I don't need another camera, so I'm happy this year.

"Canon fanboys". Isn't that the majority of professional photographers? Maybe 'photography fanboys'? Or just photographers don't who buy the hype because they are working, thanks very much; and their photos are being bought.

No Richard, it isn't mate. I shoot landscape and I only personally know one photographer who doesn't either shoot Nikon or Sony now. Canon are no longer a serious proposition - this isn't new, it's been happening for years and it's only getting worse.

I haven't seen "Canon fanboys" bragging about their cameras and being even rude to other brands' users all the time in forums. I see "Canon fanboys" only going out and enjoying themselves.

What brands the people you personally know are using, that's not really relevant here. An argument from personal experience doesn't provide any statistically significant market data.

The fact is that Canon's market share has increased in recent years, and they now have about 50% of the ILC market, Nikon's share has decreased from 35-40% to about 25%, and Sony is pretty stable at 12-15%. It's a well-known fact that the majority of professionals do use Canon, not as overwhelming a majority as in the ILC market as a whole, but still a majority.

Cool. Canon are all set then. I can’t wait to see how this works out. May 2018 be filled with more bodies like the 6DMKII...

''I haven't seen "Canon fanboys" bragging about their cameras and being even rude to other brands' users all the time in forums.''

-_-

Russ, it is not that you wouldn't be right about Canon having an unimpressive release lately, but, on the field, the best things you still see from Canon. Check 500px, check Vimeo, check YouTube. Look at these guys, the best wedding videographers out there in the US , in my opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kajOK2qGtOU&index=2&list=PLTnWp1VRTPwYHhRjjdWvPFP78y_8oSsHf
They use 1DXii. I mean, Dave Dugdale and Max Yuryev, the Nothrups may do as many videos as they want proving Canon is inferior, but when you look on the field, Canon has the best shooters

lol hilarious 😂

For you RX10 IV wins, for others though...

hmmm the fuji against the sony

the fuji has a superb 24 mp apsc sensor ... and well trounces the flimsy sony

the fuji has the worlds most advanced hybrid evf ovf vs sonys pathetic nonsense ... comparing then is to compare an oversized meteorite to an elegant actual camera ... there is a reason the category of giant zoom is actually almost extinct

fuji is built like a camera with dedicated direct controls on incised dials
for all important control paremeters .... vs sonys pathetic menu dives and unmarked dials .... vcr blinking ar 12: 00? nope,,, its a Sony compact

metal vs plastic, prime vs zoom, a camera ,or sonys control nightmare ?
there is no comparison

@cosinaphile How about yes to everything?

Sony people used to be the most irritating fanboys. Before that it was Canon. Recently it's the Fuji people.

I think it's because even the Sony people don't need to defend products.

Brand loyalty is like religion.

Only sensor is old (with better processing). All other is new....

A7RIII is an iteration of A7RII. Improved A7RII in every way but nothing is new or earth shattering.
But A7RIII is probably my next FF camera :)

...and the D850 was an updated D810, which was an updated D800e...

ozturert: ...and yet both are vastly more usable cameras than their predecessors. Fancy that.

Deliverator, did I say opposite? D810 was really much better than D800 and A7RIII fixes nearly every problem I had with A7RII. But those are fixes, not innovations.

@ozturert Thank You! I wish more people understood this. The Sony A7RIII seems like quite a capable complete camera to me (still needs some work, but really getting there). The A7RII I considered then as I do now... rubbish.

My point is that all the cameras are updates on previous cameras. All of them.

Yes, all the cameras released in 2017 are updates of previous models, significant and very worthwhile updates yes, but updates nevertheless.

Do you see that as a negative point? A high proportion of working photographers would tell you that they'd much rather have incremental updates to familiar camera bodies, than to have radical changes.

CaPi - I'm impressed by anything that makes a camera more versatile, gives it better DR, less noise, faster burst speeds, improves ergonomics or introduces new technology that has value to me (e.g. silent shooting, removal of mirror slap, live histogram).

Sony ticks most of these boxes, Nikon ticks many of them, Canon currently ticks only a few.

In my photographic life I've switched brands several times, switched from TLR to rangefinder to SLR to DSLR to mirrorless and back to DSLR. My next camera will probably be mirrorless.

But my DSLRs continue to serve me extremely well, so I'm in no hurry, and I'll wait until Canon go FF mirrorless. Not out of brand loyalty, but because I value familiarity and I know how easy it is to miss vital shots while adapting to unfamiliar equipment.

@Capi
I agree, Eos 6D mkII is the best camera from 2014.

6Dii is an excellent camera for anyone upgrading from 6D, or upgrading from APS to FF. Big improvement over 6D except base DR, and most people won't even notice, as very few people actually shoot at base ISO anyway.

Canon should have fitted a better sensor, they should have fitted twin SD slots, then it would have also competed better against the Nikon D750. It will probably outsell D750 because most people seem to prefer the styling and user-friendliness of Canon cameras, despite their higher price and lower spec.

DR is poor on Canons compared to Nikon and Sony (according to reviews), but I rarely find it a problem. If the basic exposure is "correct" then it's normally quite easy to pull extra detail out of shadows and highlights without introducing excessive noise.

The only time noise becomes an issue with my* Canon cameras (when shooting below 3200 ISO) is with under-exposed grey skies or very out-of-focus dark backgrounds. Even then fairly easy to correct with selective application of noise reduction.

*Currently 5Ds, 5Div and 1Dxii, but previously had 6D, 5D3, 7D, 7Dii, 50D)

Well, a real tough man always says the final words: Yes of course darling :)
I don't I will buy a large FF camera with large lenses again. A7RII was OK but I didn't like the ergonomy and horrible battery life on a $3000+ camera (when I bought). Now selling all Nikon and some Canon lenses slowly. FF is good but mostly comes with heavy lenses (espacially if you want a reasonably fast zoom lens). I have a problem with my back now so cannot carry a big bag.
Maybe Canikon will come up with a FF mirrorless camera with smaller lenses or I will buy an A7RIII, not sure.

Looks like it is in first place to me. Just another failure attempt at trolling

I've been following dpreview for at least fifteen years, and it may be my memory, but, firstly, I don't remember such polls from back then, and, secondly, I don't remember such a ridiculous amount of useless polls even from last year.

And – while you do have my respect both as a person and as a writer of serious reviews – your humourless defence against my ironic comment seems just as symptomatic for what has become of dpreview today as the plethora of votes and awards at year's end I joked about.

He probably started to use them ;)