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ZY Optics launches optically improved version of its Turbo Adapter for Micro Four Thirds

Published Oct 22, 2015 | Damien Demolder

Chinese lens manufacturer Shenyang Zhongyi Optics has redesigned the optical construction of is Turbo Adapter that allows Micro Four Thirds users to mount Nikon and Canon lenses to their cameras. The details are slight, but the company says the configuration is completely different, although still using four elements, and new coatings have been applied to reduce flare and increase contrast.

To make the Turbo Adapter compatible with non-G Nikkor lenses the new Version II model features an aperture ring that connects with the iris controller on the lens mount.

The Turbo Adapter comes in fittings to allow either Nikon F or Canon EF lenses to be used with Micro Four Thirds cameras. Users can expect an increase of 1-stop in the maximum effective aperture as well as the focal length in use to be widened by 0.726x.

Of course, when mounting a full frame lens on a Micro Four Thirds camera we expect to double the marked focal length to understand the angle of view we’ll experience. However, this adapter interrupts the equation making the shift in effective focal length less dramatic. A 100mm Canon EF lenses would normally take on the use of a 200mm when mounted on Micro Four Thirds bodies, but with the adapter in place the new apparent focal length would be just over 145mm.

The company is keen to point out that Micro Four Thirds cameras the Turbo Adapter is compatible with include those from Olympus and Panasonic, as well as the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera. Available mid-November, the Turbo Adapter will cost $149. For more information see the ZY Optics website.

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J_Jaskari

So what´s the craic with the EF aperture?

What aperture will the Turbo Adapter use with an EF lens? Random? Wide open?

Is there any way to control the aperture of an EF lens? If not why the **** get one? Just to use it only as wide open? :)

Thanks for civilising me.-- ;)

Jan 20, 2016permalink

Quarkar

To all interested, B&H photo video just got Lens Turbo II (Mark II) Canon EF to MFT in stock yesterday. I've ordered mine and it's on its way. A lot easier and a lot faster than waiting for it to arrive from China I believe. Price is not a cent higher than what's it listed for on official Zhongyi website... $149 US

Direct link to the Canon EF to MFT focal reducer at BH site:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1194657-REG/mitakon_zhongyi_mtkltm2efm43_canon_ef_lens_to.html

Oh yeah... also, this falls into "orders above $99" category = free shipping to Canada.

Note: I am not affiliated with B & H nor with Zhongyi in any way or form. I simply thought it's a nice info for all those who planned to order it anyway. Forum mods - please feel free to remove this post if it's fighting with forum rules in any way.

Nov 27, 2015*permalink

Quarkar

I just received mine. Sent from B&H (NY) on Friday, arrived today Tuesday here to Toronto. It looks like this latest batch Zhongyu started shipping inside new box design with Lens Turbo II image (mark II version).

Few images of the Lens Turbo II and the packaging:

http://i.imgur.com/Qs5LddG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/pO0NOxa.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/due5aQO.jpg

Dec 2, 2015*permalink

Glen Barrington

Anything similar with good quality for Canon FL/FD? I don't mean a basic manual adapter, I have one of them, but one with the optical elements.

Oct 29, 2015*permalink

spencerberus

FYI, they recently announced an FD to MFT adapter, still not available from B&H but you can order it from the manufacturer: http://www.zyoptics.net/product/zhongyi-lens-turbo-adapters-for-micro-four-thirds-cameras-m43/

Jan 18, 2016permalink

LJ - Eljot

I like to have this for Contax/Yashica-Mount to m4/3.

Oct 24, 2015permalink

Zhivko Yakimov

Novoflex makes one, it costs €119 without shipping costs. It is a manual adapter (but the one above is too) and you don't get an increase in f-stop. Focal length is doubled and depth of field becomes more shallow. It is far from ideal, but I have used my old Contax/Yashica lenses with Olympus MFT bodies when I've felt nostalgic about shooting on film. Not practical for professional work, though.

Oct 24, 2015permalink

LJ - Eljot

I have allready an adaper witch has no optics in it. The focal lenght stays the same. I don't want to have an telconverter (there are Zeiss teleconverter for C/Y). I like to have the opposite of a teleconverter, like this one and the speedbooster from Metabones. Metabones Speedbooster C/Y-m43 costs 399$. Quite expensive. But maybe cheaper ones are inappropriate for the excellent Zeiss lenses.

Oct 24, 2015*permalink

madmaxmedia

Most will just use a C/Y to Canon EF adapter along with this, although I understand the desire for a native C/Y solution. The good thing is EF mount has pretty small flange distance so many mounts can be adapted to it (M42, Leica R, etc.)

Oct 26, 2015permalink

Esen Draga

I use old Zeiss C/Y lenses on M4/3 with a simple adapter, but I'm disappointed with the results in terms of image quality. It seems they were designed for full frame film, and they don't perform very well on electronic sensors. Have you tried them?

Nov 7, 2015permalink

LJ - Eljot

I have a simple adapter with no lenses. I find the resutls very impressive. Stoped down to at least f/4 they are pretty sharp and stopped down to f/5.6 they are sharp as possible with the 16MP mFT sensor. That is very impressive because they are designed for small picture format. It is well known that they are not very sharp wide open. That was allready known in the film days. But it is true. I don't remember so much CA wide open with film. I use mainly the 50mm f/1.4 and the 85mm f/1.4. Sometimes I use the 135mm f/2.8. For the 28mm f/2.8 I have better alternatives now. but is is also very sharp at f/4. They all have very nice color rendition.

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/6379824642/photos/3290353/sauhaufen

Nov 7, 2015*permalink

eyeswideshut

I don't quite see the point of this. With current prices for a Sony A7 used or new and a $10 adapter we can get far better results with our legacy lenses.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

ijm5012

Yes, and how does the video from a used A7 compare to that of a GH4? The answer is, not well.

With the Lens Turbo/Focal Reducer/Speed Booster, m43 users can use FF lenses and effectively achieve the same FoV of a super35 sensor (minor differences for aspect ratios).

While the A7R/S II do deliver better video and have a native S35 crop function, those cameras are many times over more expensive than a GH4.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

Androole

You mean that the current prices of a Sony A7 used or new + $10 are less than the $149 that this costs? That's remarkable.

Oct 23, 2015*permalink

G G

"Far better results" Not too sure. An a6000 equipped with the E mount Lens Turbo will have the same signal to noise ratio as an A7 with the same lens at the same aperture. The only benefit of the A7 then is a one stop increase in dynamic range at high illumination.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

eyeswideshut

@ijm5012 Sorry, not thinking in terms of video but it may well be useful for your purposes.

@GG I agree with your assesment of snr and dr - but my point is that a focal reducer reduces IQ - that's why Zhongyi redesigned it.

@Androole I said no such thing

What I am saying is simply that if you love your legacy ff glas, treat it to a ff sensor.

Oct 23, 2015*permalink

ijm5012

@eyeswideshut, yes if you're talking about photos then a FF camera will outperform a m43 camera. Although I must say that I own two GH4's, a lens turbo similar to this, and three Canon FD lenses and find the photography results very acceptable. Where the GH4 really excels is in video though, and that's the reason why I bought the FD lenses and Lens Turbo in the first place.

You are correct though, as used A7's can be found for ~$700 in virtually brand new condition. If someone want's to used some adapted glass, the A7 or A7II are tremendous values (I don't feel the same way about the native lenses, bu that's a whole 'nother story).

Oct 23, 2015permalink

eyeswideshut

@ijm5012 Don't worry. I find the the results from mft cameras more than acceptable too. Been using them since 2009, first as a backup to a DSLR and in time for about 80% of my photographic needs. Anything needing "modern" lenses (sharp wide open, corner to corner type of stuff), autofocus, zoom, long reach or uwa and I go with mft. Anything having to do with my pile of Pentax K mount, Takumars and growing cache of Leica M/M39 lenses and I stick on a Sony A7. That has little to do with the real, marginal or putative benefits of the ff sensor as such. It is simply about the size of the sensor - the native format of my legacy lenses as it were. Who wants to shoot a 50mm Sonnar or Summicron with the equivalent angle of view of a 100mm lens all the time ? ;-) That's where the A7 comes in.

I'm certain the results are better than using a focal reducer - which in any case limits you to only one mount (Nikon or Canon in this case).

Oct 23, 2015permalink

meanwhile

"Who wants to shoot a 50mm Sonnar or Summicron with the equivalent angle of view of a 100mm lens all the time?"

Hmm, I'm not sure you read up on what focal reducers actually do.

"which in any case limits you to only one mount (Nikon or Canon in this case)."

Not at all. An EOS mount focal reducer allows you to mount M42, OM, Contax, Nikon, etc glass. It has a flange distance shorter than most other legacy mounts.

Oct 23, 2015*permalink

eyeswideshut

@maenwhile Golly you are right - should have said 50mm * 0.726 = 68.8705234159779614mm. Silly me using such short hand.

I'm also in full agreement with you regarding the mount. Buy an eos=>mft focal reducer, stick a Pentax K => eos adapter on it, insert the original Pentax M42 => Pentax K adapter ring into it (important to get the original, the chinese knock offs are no good), mount a 50mm Takumar and enjoy the fov of a 68.8705234159779614mm lens on ff. Wow. That sounds like a plan.
Now what am I going to do with the Summicron? Wait for the M/M39=>mft focal reducer?
Again, imo if you love your legacy glass treat it to a sensible sensor and don't fiddle with focal reducers.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

meanwhile

Ha ha, anyone can make something quite simple sound complex. I have both, both have their uses.

Golly, sorry for using the shorthand "most", thought you'd understand that rangefinder glass has a really short flange length. There will be no M focal reducer.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

meanwhile

"if you love your legacy glass" ... use it any way that works for you.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

obsolescence

There are practical benefits to expanding the capabilities of legacy or other-format lenses that we either own or can buy cheaply, but there are also drawbacks. I'm skeptical about the performance of wide angle lenses toward the edges when used with these "speed boosters," and I wonder whether it's worth all the fiddling with adapters to switch between focal lengths. There may be some advantage in light gathering, but this will be at the expense of size and weight. The mFT lens lineup is already so extensive and refined that I think this solution represents a compromise.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

photominion

Usually lenses perform better with the turbo, at least in the center.
In the corners you get whatever weak performance the lens had anyway.

Using a vintage 50/1.4 will nicely balance on the m4/3 camera, because those lenses never exceed 300g

One stop gain in light gathering is a very strong point
Where else can you get an f/1.4 lens instead of the 1.8 for only 100 bucks more?
A Helios 44 becomes an f/1.4 and you get most of the great bokeh.

Also, vintage lenses on modern cameras aren't ment to compete with Sigma ART stuff, but rather to provide some unique "character" that got lost with modern lens design.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

Theelderkeynes

Not entirely clear that this is for Nikon F to M4/3 (as the article seems to indicate ) or Nikon G (which is the manufacturers line......???

Oct 22, 2015permalink

AshMills

You haven't read the article have you?

Oct 23, 2015permalink

SeeRoy

"To make the Turbo Adapter compatible with non-G Nikkor lenses the new Version II model features an aperture ring that connects with the iris controller on the lens mount."
Eh? Surely the reverse...
Non-G lenses already have an aperture ring.

Oct 23, 2015*permalink

eit412608

I think the iris controller in Nikon G lenses is a pin inside the lens mount, so when the ring on the speed booster is turned then the aperture is changed inside the Nikon lens.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

G G

The ring is actually there to make the adapter compatible with G lenses. This ring acts on the depth of field view lever. For non G lenses, it should be set at wide open to prevent it from interfering with your aperture setting.

Oct 24, 2015permalink

GDB

I am a bit confused. Will this adapter work with EOS lenses (knowing that no electronic connection will be made and the lens will be manual focus). Also, if I have, say, a 15mm f3.5 EOS lens, what will the new focal length and aperture be?

Thanks,
Gary

Oct 22, 2015permalink

(unknown member)

I have the original Lens turbo for EF to M4/3.
There is no control of anything.
It just allows the lens to be used manual focus.
Unless the lens has an aperture ring it will shoot at whatever aperture is being used
40 2.8 STM I can not even focus.
The Kipon AF adapter is much better most of the time.....fast AF with many lenses and full control and no glass in the adapter but you do get a different angle of view.

Oct 22, 2015permalink

Tons o Glass 0 Class

Yes, EF lenses are crippled by using a passive adapter. However, I think the company offers EF-mount knowing that it's possible to adapt OM/PK/M42/CY/F/QBM/DKL/more to it. By adapting to an adapter you are compounding your chances of lens decentering/misalignment, but doing so is quite useful and cost effective.

Oct 22, 2015permalink

photominion

Yep, I'll get the EF-FUJI Lensturbo, because like that I can use all my adapted glass on the Fuji, with only one adapter.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

HB1969

There are other manufacturers that make lenses in EOS EF mount. Some of them are manual focus and have aperture rings like the Samyang lenses and many others. The lens turbo with an EF mount would work perfectly well with these.

Oct 26, 2015permalink

joe6pack

I think there is a mistake here. The focal reducer from Zhongyi usually have an advertised magnification factor of 0.726x, not 0.762x.

I have to wonder why the Nikon-F aperture ring support isn't applied to the E-mount adapter as well.

Oct 22, 2015*permalink

meanwhile

I'd say it's coming, when they release the new optics version for E-mount.

Oct 22, 2015permalink

Damien Demolder

Thanks joe6pack. The press information states 0.762x, but the website, which may still refer to the older model, says 0.726x. I'll try to clarify what the answer is.

Oct 22, 2015permalink

Damien Demolder

Indeed - it should be 0.726x. I'll get it fixed.

Oct 22, 2015permalink

eit412608

E mount is electronic control of aperture while G is mechanical, so most likely there will not be an E mount with aperture control.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

meanwhile

The electronic aperture control of E-mount is not relevant to manual lens use, and the Lens Turbo does not utilize it, so it's quite possible.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

mrc4nl

Finally a Nikon G speed booster (besides metabones ofc)

Oct 22, 2015permalink

Paul Boddie

From the linked product page: "It is not compatible with Blackmagic cinema cameras."

Also, in case one might be wondering: "The Lens Turbo is a manual adapter offering no electronic communication between lens and camera."

Oct 22, 2015permalink

AshMills

I would be surprised if it did not work - I have a BMPCC with an old one (and a Metabones) and they work/mount fine.

Oct 23, 2015permalink

LingoDingo

...I guess it will depend on how deep the back of the focal reducer protrudes past the lens mount ?

Oct 26, 2015permalink

Androole

Interesting 0.762x seems less aggressive than most of the other adapters on the market. The cheap off-brand (or old RJ brand) focal reducers on eBay typically are 0.72x.

I can't compare the optical quality of the new Lens Turbo, but for a $90 product, the eBay ones are remarkably decent as long as the lens you are focal reducing is at f2.0 or smaller. Once you try to boost an old f1.4 lens wide open, things start to get pretty glowy...

Oct 22, 2015*permalink

AshMills

it is 0.726

Oct 23, 2015permalink

LingoDingo

The "glowy" quality is caused by coma from the old f/1.4 lens, which can easily be cured by stopping down your f/1.4 lens to f/2.0 or more.

I own the original Zhongyi focal reducer for Nikon F lenses and a Metabones Nikon G focal reducer, and the Zhongyi holds up well in comparison. I expect this new version should prove to be excellent when paired with a decent lens.

Oct 26, 2015permalink

Androole

"...which can easily be cured by stopping down your f/1.4 lens to f/2.0 or more."

Yes, this is what I said.

Oct 26, 2015permalink

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