Hands-on with new Fujifilm X-T200

Huh? What is the improvement?

@smallpox
Faster AF
Usable 4K video
Joystick
MUCH improved grip
Faster, less laggy operation
Bigger, better articulating LCD

I really like Canon. The 5D mark IV is an true gem.
But the 6DII and RP are bad cameras. AF (especially on the 6Dii with only 45 focal points) was poor and IQ was even worse. The moire and artifacts in the video it produces is mostly unusable.
The XT200 is $799 but the 6Dii is $1400 almost twice as much. It is also twice the size with half the functionality. That dog can't even shoot 4K.
This site points out the 6Dii "Less low ISO dynamic range than even crop-sensor competitors", so well below the XT200.

Fuji body : 700 usd with zoom: 799
Canon RP : 1299 , with R zoom : 2399

@wats0n I'm convinced that most people who don't see the issue with Lr (I have both Lr and C1 and use Lr more often) are looking in the wrong place. X-Trans files in Lr are sharp if you look at the point of focus. Sometimes they're oversharp which results in worms. But the real problem is as the focus falls off into bokeh. This is where the details get smeared together in LR to a much greater degree than C1, for example. The effect is more noticeable in some images and with certain types of detail. That said, I still tend to use Lr for the majority of my images.

Thomas Heaton in his last video talks and tests about this. He ended up using the Iridium plugin. But to be honest - even without Iridiium he couldn't find a significant difference between CR1 and LR.
I would love to see an example though regarding the worms and oversharperning. For the live of it - I can't find/see it when woriking in LR. (I use Lr CC not the Classic version)

Plenty of people will buy the X-T200, especially by people who do a lot of vlogging with a limited budget. EIS is good enough for this segment of the market.

Most buyers of the X-T200 won't even know what Acros is.

@T3 agreed. and those who do know what it is, just slap it onto the raw in post

what is Acros?

You can buy a stabilized lens. The kit lens is stabilized. I understand why models like the T-3 should get criticized for their lack of IBIS but an entry level camera like this is going to get used with cheap, stabilized lenses.

“Most buyers of the X-T200 won't even know what Acros is.”

Have you asked most of them?

@Sine_Nomine - Well, given that most entry-level camera buyers these days have never shot film, I think that's a fair assumption. Besides, even if they do know, is it really going to be such a big deal? To most people, it's not going to be a big deal since the difference is rather nuanced, and it's not really anything that a tone curve tweak couldn't fix (or get you very close to it):

https://fujifilm-x.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Story1_Acros2.jpg

https://fujifilm-x.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Story1_Acros3.jpg

It would be a far bigger deal if the X-T200 didn't have any black-and-white image mode at all.

I don't think manufacturers really want to get mirrorless cameras down to the price level of entry-level DSLRs because that just means a lot less profit per unit sold. With entry-level DSLRs, it was a race to the bottom (price-wise) and once they got down there the manufacturers were STUCK there because that's what consumers became accustomed to. They definitely don't want to repeat that (at least not too quickly) in today's market where there are far fewer units sold than in the past.

@T3 I agree, but I think canon will start changing this in a few months when they release their even cheaper FF mirrorless. it'll force the apsc prices down. Really smart on Canon's part, will be difficult for m43 and fuji who's cameras are smaller sensor but not necessarily that much smaller in size as a whole. i htink this is why Fuji recently is putting so much effort into their video game... plus everything is going that way anyway.

M43 entry level bodies used to beat out bottom kit APS-C DSLR's a few years back when panasonic/olympus were rolling out vastly improved bodies every year in that segment. Then again, those old 12mp Panasonic and Olympus bodies were pretty awful at focusing and the sensors didn't have much dynamic range or resolution even compared to a low end DSLR at the time...

I disagree. I don't think Canon will kill EF-M in favor of an APS-C RF mount.

@T3: The M50 is Canon's best selling mirrorless camera. As long as sales are good, there is a zero chance that Canon will discontinue that line.

@justmeMN - Just remember, people like you also believed that Canon would never discard the FD mount as they transitioned to autofocus. People like you said, "As long as sales are good, there is a zero chance that Canon will discontinue that line. They'll just add AF capability to future FD bodies and lenses." But Canon made the bold move of introducing a new mount on which their future would be based (EF). Now, we see them doing the same: launching a new mount on which their future will be based (RF). And just like FD, the EF-M mount will be phased out over the course of a few years. They won't cut off EF-M sales immediately just like they didn't cut off FD sales immediately. FD and EF sold concurrently in the market for a few more years.

As for current EOS M sales, those are almost entirely low-end sales (ie, the EOS M50). The same applies to their lenses: all inexpensive lenses. APS-C RF will be more attractive to more serious APS-C users who will potentially spend more money.

Logistically, what T3 is saying makes sense even if it leads to some temporary backlash, and even if recent EF-M releases actually pointed at Canon getting a little more serious about it... Personally I would've liked to see them commit to an APS-C only mount because I like the kind of lens development that leads to, as a fan of compact gear, but realistically sharing the mount across both formats makes even more sense than ever for mirrorless and particularly the current market climate.

Mosc,
M43 dynamic was better than canon apsc dynamic ....

Never heard of the XT1000 or the XT2000. Are they the practice cameras for trainers? ;)

It seems the XT2000 will only be available in the Mariano-Pacifico region :)

My apologies, smartphone is not hearing me right

@Mariano Pacifico. No apologies necessary. We are just having a little fun. :)

The X-T3 is probably the best APSC camera right now, and certainly one of the best hybrid cameras on the market.

If you ask this, the X-T200 will probably be more than enough for your needs.

One is a camera, they other is trying to kill John Connor.

@skeezmoe

You are asking for IBIS in an entry-level APS-C camera like the X-T200? Why don't you check to see who makes one?

This is a Sony blunder. Their AF system is great but frequently choses the wrong subject if there is more than one. It is too difficult to then switch. My friends and I have talked about what a pain this is.
All the latest cameras have excellent AF, but most others make it easier to switch to the right subject.

With the advancements in intelligent AF technology, I feel like joysticks are becoming the equivalent of the joystick rollerball on old Blackberry phones-- a good solution for a previous era. These days, I think features such as center-point lock-on AF (start by locking onto your subject with the center point, then let the camera track the subject wherever that subject moves within the frame) is just a faster way to work than trying to fiddle with a joystick. It's a change in mindset compared to trying to choose which AF point to sellect/focus on. With lock-on AF, you're now choosing the subject you want to select/focus on.

Note that I have an A6400 with AF tracking and still would find a joystick useful.

This is an especially good feature for us left-eyed shooters who have to worry about noses and touchscreens.

Is a joystick that much better than using the touchscreen? A lot of cameras now let you do that even when looking thru an EVF, maybe it's because I'm used to laptops etc but I find that to be a good enough fallback for manual AF point selection when tracking isn't doing what I want... Then again I've never owned a body w/joystick (and I did vastly prefer the old Thinkpad trackpoints to your average touchpad).

Any advantage the X-trans sensor had has long since gone. Maybe Fuji has realised that.