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Camera Menus

While the Alpha 7 and 7R are E-mount cameras, Sony has mercifully installed the tab-based menu from the company's DSLRs instead. While a drastic improvement over the NEX menus, this system still has 131 options spread over 24 pages, which can be overwhelming at first.

In general, the most commonly accessed settings are near the front of the menu, though a few things could be moved around. Overall organization could be a lot better, as finding the setting you're looking for can be like finding a needle in a haystack.

The rear dial can be used to scroll through pages, while the front dial scrolls up and down through the options, though it doesn't loop onto the next page if you reach the bottom or top of the page you're on. Naturally, you can also use the four-way controller on the rear of the camera to navigate through the menus. We don't like how much button pressing it takes to switch tabs. Unlike cameras from some other manufacturers, you must scroll all the way up to the top of the menu to reach the tabs, and which point you can switch between them.

The optional NEX-like Tile Menu allows you to jump directly to the section of the menu that you desire.

For those who miss the NEX-style menus, Sony offers the Tile Menu shown above, though it's merely a gateway to the normal menus.

You'll often bump into 'grayed-out' menu options, which display vague error messages if you select them.

One of the most frustrating aspects of both the a7R and the NEX models that precede it are the frequent, unhelpful errors that pop-up when a menu item cannot be selected. Often these errors simply tell you what mode you're in (see above), rather that would mode you should be in to adjust a certain setting.

Shooting menu

The seven shooting menu pages contains the most commonly used settings, which include image size, focus mode, ISO sensitivity, and white balance - plus several options related to movie recording.

Option Values / Actions Notes
Page one
[Stills] Image size  • L: 36M (30M in 16:9)
 • M: 15M (13M in 16:9)
 • S: 9M (7.6M in 16:9)
- 7360 x 4912 (7360 x 4144 in 16:9)
- 4800 x 3200 (4800 x 2704 in 16:9)
- 3680 x 2456 (3680 x 2072 in 16:9)
[Stills] Aspect Ratio  • 3:2
 • 16:9

[Stills] Quality  • RAW
 • RAW & JPEG
 • Extra Fine
 • Fine
 • Standard
Raw & JPEG creates a Fine JPEG
Panorama: Size  • Standard
 • Wide
Only available in Panorama mode
Panorama: Detection  • Right
 • Left
 • Up
 • Down
Only available in Panorama mode
[Movie] File format  • AVCHD
 • MP4
 
Page two
[Movie] record setting  • 60i 24M (FX)
 • 60i 17M (FH)
 • 60p 28M (PS)
 • 24p 24M (FX)
 • 24p 17M (FH)
 
Drive mode  • Single shooting
 • Continuous shooting
 • Speed priority cont.
 • Self-timer
 • Self-timer (continuous)
 • Continuous bracket (AE)
 • Single bracket (AE)
 • WB bracket
 • DRO bracket

 
Flash mode

 • Flash off
 • Auto flash
 • Slow sync
 • Rear sync
 • Wireless

 
Flash comp.  • -3EV to +3EV In 1/3EV increments
Redeye reduction  • On
 • Off
Off is the default
Focus mode  • Single-shot (AF-S)
 • Continuous AF (AF-C)
 • DMF
 • MF
DMF (direct manual focus) lets you use both auto and manual focus at the same time.
Page three
Focus area  • Wide
 • Zone
 • Center
 • Flexible spot
Flexible spot offers three focus point sizes: small, medium. and large.
Focus settings  • Adjust focus point Lets you move around the focus point.
[Stills] AF illuminator  • Auto (on)
 • Off
 
Exposure comp.  • -5EV to +5EV  
Exposure step  • 0.5EV
 • 0.3EV
 
ISO  • Multi Frame NR
 • Auto
 • 50 - 25600 (1/3EV steps)

Multi Frame NR combines several exposures into a single image in order to reduce noise., and is only available for JPEGs.

You can select the minimum and maximum sensitivity for the Auto ISO setting. ISO 50 - 80 are 'extensions'.

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Metering mode  • Multi
 • Center
 • Spot
 
White balance  • Auto
 • Daylight
 • Shade
 • Cloudy
 • Incandescent
 • Warm white fluorescent
 • Cool white fluorescent
 • Day white fluorescent
 • Daylight florescent
 • Flash
 • Underwater auto
 • Color temp/filter
 • Custom 1/2/3
 • Custom setup
The color temperature range is 2500K - 9900K. All white balance settings can be fine-tuned in the amber-blue and/or green-magenta direction.
DRO / Auto HDR  • D-R Off
 • DRO (Auto, Lv1 - Lv5)
 • HDR (Auto, ±1EV - ±6EV)
HDR is only available for JPEGs.
Creative Style  • Standard
 • Vivid
 • Neutral
 • Clear
 • Deep
 • Light
 • Portrait
 • Landscape
 • Sunset
 • Night scene
 • Autumn leaves
 • Black & White
 • Sepia

For each of these you can adjust contrast, saturation, and sharpness.

Up to six custom Styles can be saved in memory.

Picture Effect  • Off
 • Toy camera
 • Pop color
 • Posterization
 • Retro photo
 • Soft high-key
 • Partial color
 • High contrast mono
 • Soft focus
 • HDR painting
 • Rich-tone mono
 • Miniature
 • Watercolor
Several of these effects can be adjusted to your liking. None are available when shooting Raw.
Zoom  • Optical zoom (w/power zoom)
 • Digital zoom
If a power zoom lens is attached, this option will operate it. You can also add in 'clear image zoom' or traditional (lossy) digital zoom.
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Focus magnifier  • Activate Enlarges the frame when manually focusing so you can confirm proper focus.
[Stills] Long exposure NR  • On
 • Off
 
[Stills] High ISO NR  • Normal
 • Low
 • Off
 
Lock-on AF  • Off
 • On
 • On (start w/shutter)
Attempts to track a subject which you've selected. The start w/shutter option is only available in C-AF mode.
Smile/face Detection

 • Off
 • Face detection on (reg. faces)
 • Face detection on
 • Smile Shutter

Choose from slight, normal, and big smile for the last option.
[Stills] Soft skin effect  • Off
 • On
Choose from low, middle, and high settings.
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[Stills] Auto obj. framing  • Off
 • On
Will automatically crop photos using the rule-of-thirds. The original (uncropped) image is saved.
Auto mode  • Intelligent Auto
 • Superior Auto
Choose which point-and-shoot mode you wish to use. Both offer automatic scene selection, with the latter adding multi-shot modes like HDR.
Scene selection  • Portrait
 • Sports action
 • Macro
 • Landscape
 • Sunset
 • Night scene
 • Hand-held twilight
 • Night portrait
 • Anti Motion Blur
The hand-held twilight and Anti Motion Blur modes shoot a series of images and combine them in order to reduce noise and blur.
Movie  • Program Auto
 • Aperture Priority
 • Shutter Priority
 • Manual
Select the exposure mode when the mode dial is set to the 'movie' position.
SteadyShot  • On
 • Off
Turns on image stabilization when a compatible lens is attached.
[Stills] Color space  • sRGB
 • AdobeRGB
 
Page seven
[Movie] Auto slow shutter  • Off
 • On
Whether the camera uses a slower shutter speed when recording movies in low light.
Audio recording  • On
 • Off
 
Audio rec level  • Up (+)
 • Down (-)
 • Reset
Adjusts the mic level when the mode dial is set to 'movie'
Audio out timing  • Live
 • Lip sync
Whether audio and video are synced
Wind noise reduction  • On
 • Off
 
Memory  • Adjust Save your favorite camera settings to the MR 1/2 spots on the mode dial.

Custom settings menu

You'll find many of the less-commonly accessed settings in the custom settings menu. Some notable items include focus peaking and button customizations, as well as an item for disabling the movie recording button.

Option Values / Actions Notes
Page one
Zebra  • Off
 • 70 - 100+
Shows a zebra pattern over parts of an image that exceed the brightness level you've chosen.
[Stills] MF assist  • On
 • Off
Enlarges the frame for ease in manual focusing.
Focus magnification time  • 2 sec
 • 5 sec
 • No limit
Amount of time that MF assist is displayed.
Grid line  • Off
 • Diag + Square grid
 • Square grid
 • Rule of 3rds grid
 
Audio level display  • On
 • Off
 
Auto review

 • Off
 • 2 sec
 • 5 sec
 • 10 sec

 
Page two
DISP button

 • Monitor
 • Graphic display
 • Display all info
 • No display info
 • Histogram
 • Level
 • For viewfinder
 • Finder
 • Graphic display
 • Display all info
 • No display info
 • Histogram
 • Level

 
Peaking level  • Off
 • Low
 • Mid
 • High
 
Peaking color  • White
 • Yellow
 • Red
 
Exposure set. guide  • On
 • Off
Displays a shutter speed/aperture guide at the bottom of the display.
Live view display  • Setting effect on
 • Setting effect off
Whether or not images on the LCD/EVF reflect exposure, white balance, Picture Effects, and Creative Styles.
[Stills] Pre-AF

 • On
 • Off

Camera continuously focuses, even without shutter release halfway-pressed.
Page three
Zoom setting  • Optical zoom
 • Clear Image Zoom
 • Digital zoom
What occurs when you select the 'zoom' option mentioned above. Clear Image Zoom is lossless (but requires lowering the resolution), while standard digital zoom reduces image quality.
[Stills] Eye-start AF  • On
 • Off
Starts focusing when you put your eye to the EVF. Only works with A-mount lenses using the LA-EA2/EA4 adapter.
Finder/Monitor  • Auto
 • Viewfinder
 • Monitor
Use the eye sensor or select the display manually.
Release w/o lens

 • Enable
 • Disable

 
Page four
[Stills] AF w/shutter  • On
 • Off
 
[Stills] AEL w/shutter  • Auto
 • On
 • Off
 
Superior auto image extract  • Auto
 • Off
Whether all images taken continuously in Superior Auto mode are saved.
Exp. comp set  • Ambient & flash
 • Ambient only
 
Reset EV comp.  • Maintain
 • Reset
Whether exposure compensation value set in the shooting menu is maintained when camera is powered off. Only functions when EV dial is set to 0.
Bracket order  • 0/-/+
 • -/0/+
 
Page five
Face registration  • New registration
 • Order exchange
 • Delete
 • Delete all
Registered faces get priority when multiple faces are detected.
APS-C size capture  • On
 • Auto
 • Off
Whether camera automatically reduces the resolution to 10M when an APS-C lens is attached. The 'on' setting crops the image regardless of the lens. You can also turn off the crop feature, if you don't mind a lot of vignetting.
AF micro adj.  • AF adjustment set
     • On
     • Off
 • Amount
 • Clear
Only available with A-mount lenses
Lens comp.  • Shading comp.
     • Auto
     • Off
 • Chromatic aberration corr.
     • Auto
     • Off
 • Distortion comp.
     • Auto
     • Off
Functions are only available with E-mount lenses. Distortion correct may be fixed at 'Auto' with certain lenses.
Page six
Function menu set.  • Function upper 1-6
 • Function lower 1-6
See table on Controls page
Custom key set.  • Control wheel
 • AEL button
 • AF/MF button
 • Custom button 1-3
 • Center button
 • Left button
 • Right button
 • Down button
See table on Controls page
Dial setup  • Rear: shutter, Front: aperture
 • Rear: aperture, Front: shutter
 
Dial EV comp.  • Off
 • Front dial
 • Rear dial
Allows you to adjust the exposure comp. when one of the dials. Main EV dial must be set to zero.
Movie button  • Always
 • Movie mode only
Prevents the user from accidentally recording video in still shooting modes.
Dial/wheel lock  • Lock
 • Unlock
Lock option deactivates all dials, unless the Fn button is held down.
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BobFoster

This camera is perfect if you keep the focal range 50 and below. Otherwise you are defeating the purpose of having such a compact body. That said, It is an extraordinary camera in my opinion. I have the a7 and love it. I will keep my Canon 6d for focal ranges higher than 50 such as my 70-200 2.8 because # 1 it's ridiculous to put that huge lens on it, and by the way, # 2, the metabones adapter is useless as the focus takes forever with it... The view finder actually was really good. I thought I would miss the mirror, but I almost forgot it wasn't there. It's doesn't weigh much, yet feels very sturdy in the hand as well. Excellent picture quality when shooting in raw and then doing your own post with it. Better than my 6d I'd have to say.

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Nichocore

will my regular emount lenses fit the full frame a7R?

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Galbertson

Wow, new A7 at $1,295! Reconsidering over Nikon D750

Big question for me. My needs are to have LCD out to horizontal and resting Hoodman 3X loupe on it. I want hands free to operate lenses(manual legacy nikkors) right hand changing functions of camera (primarily in manual mode). Is articulating mechanism strong enough to hold up Hoodman? I had read somewhere mechanism on D750 much stronger.
Thanks!

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PTewari

With the announcement of A7-II, do you think A7r-II is on its way?

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pablo OM

Could you tell me what do I need to see the raw images of the alpha r7 in Bridge and Photoshop, I already download the Phaseone and I can see the photos there but not in Photoshop, thank you in advance

P.

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ronguo

Though I can appreciate the objective of this review is to include as many factors as possible, most of the factors are entirely subjective and really off base for what I consider to be valid for any camera. My criteria are simple: image quality, ability to manually control all aspects of the camera as and when I want, and flexibility to use legacy lenses. The A7R meets this 100%.

The A7R has the world's best sensor. period. To take advantage of this, you will need the world's best lenses. period. Combined with a good photographer, you will get the world's best images. period.

Its the image that counts.

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Designic

"...most of the factors are entirely subjective..."

and

"...The A7R has the world's best sensor. period..." ??

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Designic

It's an extremely helpful review and has powerful tools to compare performance. Take a look at the tool for comparing images in different lighting, above. That's the sort of information many of us need before deciding on which cameras to consider. Then, before deciding, it's best to try the cameras out in the real world. This review has certainly really helped me make my own decision.

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Sdaniella

Can the a7r allow full manual exposure (speed/iso/aperture/wb) creative adjustment control DURING video capture (not just set at beginning of video)? I can't seem to find it listed specifically on DPR's comparison specs database, or in it's review, where am I to find it (url, page location/section). Search function isn't friendly if exact wording is needed to isolate it.
thx

what other models by other mfrs have full manual creative adjustment control DURING VIDEO capture listed?

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ronguo

yes, you can make adjustments during video.
example: if you use a manual lens, you can change f-stop during video and the live view on lcd will show you the effect.
normally, I set the other parameters before shooting, so I have greater control over blur, noise, etc. always I let the camera set the wb to auto.

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Sdaniella

I'm talking about adjusting Manual ISO, shutter speeds, for video, not just aperture (which is lense related only obviously)

I ask, because, this is a given, on EOS FF dSLR video
no sense getting something with less control.

manual or flybywire control lenses control: zoom, focus, and aperture being a given (lens dependent)

speed, ISO, frame-rates being camera dependent

(obviously, manual lens can change lens related settings)

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ronguo

yes to ISO and shutter speed.

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Sdaniella

just so we're clear:

1) ISO can be changed during video capture running, and its sensitivity fx be seen live during capture

2) shutter speed can be changed during video capture, and its exposure fx can be seen live during capture

3m) lens aperture can be changed during video capture, and both its exposure fx and dof fx can be see live during capture (M ISO chosen, and changed during capture)
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3a) obviously,
lens aperture can be changed during video capture, and dof fx can be see live during capture (Auto ISO chosen, and varies with light conditions)

4) lastly:
EV compensation can be chosen, and changed during video capture, and see compensation fx change live (not sure if this is done via auto shutter speed or auto ISO or a combination of both)

I know on EOS dSLR video, all 4 above are possible

not sure about the rest, as most Manual, seem to be selectable only at start of video, but not changeable during capture.

Powershot G7X, has 1 + 3, but 4(only at start), 2(no mention)

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Anastigmat

If only this camera can say "mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the ugliest camera of them all?" LOL

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rednec

I disagree with the statement that : '' At ISO 3200 you'll see that the a7R is neck-and-neck with the much larger Canon 5D III ''. Unfortunately sony produces significantly more noise in raw mode. Otherwise a nice camera

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Average User

As a new purchaser of this camera I want to thank the reviewer for a careful, thorough and well balanced review. Especially I appreciated the organized discussion of the menus. I printed your discussion as a little booklet to carry in my camera bag.
As natural successor to the Nex 7 the camera adds much needed low light capability when used with fast lenses. I have the Zeiss FE mount 55mm 1.8 and Zeiss Emount 24 mm 1.8. The images are also much better at higher ISO's. The preset ISO top auto ISO limit is 6400, but it's better to use it at 3200. Top auto ISO on the Nex 7 is 1600 and for good reason.
With the Zeiss 55 mm and care in holding this camera steady, the images can be stunningly clear and great bokeh. Except in low light, the Nex 7 is capable of nearly the same quality using the new Zeiss 16-70mm f4. But the colors and dark and light are just a little better handled in higher contrast outdoor shooting with the 7r.

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Galbertson

Has anyone, reviewer or photographer with A7R, test IQ from various prime lenses from Nikon, Canon, Leica, Voightlander, of course with apprpriate adapter? It would be a fabulously interesting comparison. Especially curious how truly sharp the older preAF lenses.
Thanks, gary

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ST205

Gary,

I've only ever shot with Zeiss and Voigtlander lenses (ZM25/2.8, ZM50/2, ZM85/2 and Voigtlander 35/1.2II) on my A7R.

The only lens that is a bit iffy is the ZM25 as there's a lot of colour shift on the edges of the frame. The rest produce fantastic sharp images.

Some example shots:

ZM50/2 - http://wrc.smugmug.com/Family/Family/i-gK2Tsxg/0/X2/millie%20%287%20of%201%29-X2.jpg

ZM85/2 - http://wrc.smugmug.com/Family/Family/i-27tt736/0/X2/untitled-101-X2.jpg

Voigtlander 35/1.2 - http://wrc.smugmug.com/Family/Family/i-mzbvwPv/0/X2/DSC07119-X2.jpg

Cheers
Ben

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Galbertson

Ben,
Thanks for response.
Not sure if iPad issue, but clicking on your links do not work. I thought they turn yellow when link offered, yours are white, same as reading copy.???

Gary

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ronguo

to see photos from legacy lenses, go to Flickr (lots there). in general, the A7R sensor is extremely sensitive to lens quality and will show faults very easily. as a rule, I have found only the Zeiss Planar design comes up to the level of the sensor without postpro or apps. Distagon is another excellent lens. Leica has colour shift on the A7R and requires postpro or the add-on lens app. I have seen excellent results with Minolta 50. All others are hit or miss, so you need to experiment.

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Robin Ducker

I am a Nikon FX and DX user. I bought a Oly EM-1 as my back can no longer take rigorous hiking carrying 10KG of Nikon gear. So, now my pack is down to 3KG. But here is the killer: 1. the DR is not really + there as is a gritty feel to the images even using ETTR. 2. this is the biggie: the magic of a full frame image isn't there. I would back the Olympus 75 1.8 against ANY lens for sharpness and contrast. Particularly so in the case of my Nikkor 135 F2 DC. But guess what? The Nikkor kills it for Bokeh and I mean KILLS.
I and many others don't NEED 5/6/8/12 FPS -I have other tools that do that. FPS is simply a "my dick is bigger!" argument. Go and get a D4S then - just don't expect the D4S to make an A1 image. I don't take "test shots" at high frame rates to boost my manhood.

The A7 is a real camera for people who take photographs, and yes, my EM-1 is going. The Nikon 135 F2 DC stays on the Nikon and I am going to buy an A7R because it works for the type of photography I do.

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gLOWx

Another "concept camera" ?
Too expansive for "amateurs".
Not performing enough for professionals. They will get a DSLR over it.
May be ppl with too much money to spend ?
Sure it is a good camera...if you just take account of sensor...

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munro harrap

No, you have to be able to get the shot right first time. On this camera you cannot as they have a dreadfully long lag between the half-press and exposure. The A7 has not, so why? what is the point? Are they refusing to compete with the D800E (which has a Sony sensor too) on equal ground? Why? So much Sony do is brilliant and so much makes no sense!!

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brownie314

you gotta be kidding right? 2.5 fps - on the FAST model. 1.5 fps on the high MP model. I get it - these were not built for speed - but still - this is 2014! I would expect no less than 5 fps w/autofocus on the A7r and at least 8 fps on the A7 w/ autofocus. For me - this camera is a non-started just based on this. I can't justify $2k for a camera that is by far slower than my D7000. I have been looking at going FF - and was considering this camera - but no way - not at those speeds. D610 will have to do.

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ChapelThrill23

I'm a Nikon user but I really understand the appeal of this. To me the weight is a number that matters far more than the FPS. I almost never do anything but single shot.

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Galbertson

Hi Chapel,
Are you using nikkor glass on your A7R? I have some nikkor AI lenses, wondering IQ on A7R.
Thanks

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Galbertson

Sorry for so many questions, but camera shop idiots...

When shuttering with 2 second timer, will bracketing still operate.

Is it true, though a7/a7r has e mount, you have to use adapter to use sony aps-c lenses?

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Galbertson

On A7R, with metabones adapter, how would nikon 35mm f1.4 compare in IQ to carl zeiss FE 35mm f1.8?

Ps, nikon is older manual F lens

Thanks!

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ronguo

the CZ has superior IQ.

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Galbertson

Eastwestphoto...if one has polarizer constantly on lens to improve focusing, they would constantly polarize each and every image. They would constantly have to turn front glass on polarizer depending on changing value of light. Polarizers only effective at certain angles to sun or light source.you are adding many, many restrictions in your shooting to perhaps improve focus speed.there are a great number of subjects that should not be polarized, and you will lose 2.5 stops of light.

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eastwestphoto

DT 18~70mm lens, Kit lenses are significantly improved on Sony Contrast focusing AF system by the SIMPLE addition of a 49mm Polarizer filter. Focus is faster and more accurate. At least on the NEX system DSLM cameras and the New Alpha A7 series! If you think about it it makes sense, polarized light is MUCH easier for the AF Contrast system to read! 18mm on APS-C chip sized = 27mm. I tested the DT 18~70mm kit lens on my LA-EA4 adapter and at full frame it covered a 24x36mm digital chip on the A7r from 70-21, then vignetted. I didn't expect it to work that well. The image was sharp, contrasty and Highly usable! This is a trade secret,I am revealing. I seriously doubt that Sony would want this info revealed? Remember a A200 series and A300 series Sony cameras are Sony A mount and have mirrors, therefore the back focal length of the lens is Longer by far than Nex APS-C lenses , which are for DSLM cameras. So on the LA-EA4 adapter, the lens works well! Regards, Don@Eastwestphoto

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straylightrun

I'm not sure what you're on about. I just tested my old KM 18-70 DT and it only covered 28mm FF with no vignetting. Anything less and there was too much vignetting and the corners were very soft. The standard FE kit 28-75 performs better than this lens.

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Shelley Sargent

I bought this just 4 days after it was released after lots of thought and research. I was originally thinking of upgrading from my Rebel XTI to a Canon 6D, I very much felt I was ready for a full frame model of camera, crop sensor was making my Nifty Fifty (50mm f/1.8) very difficult to shoot in smaller places which I found to be a common situation I landed in (abandoned buildings).
A friend highly suggested this model and I am absolutely loving it! I didn't purchase a sony lens to go along, instead opting to purchase an adapter and use Canon FD lenses and managed to get my hands on a fabulous 50mm f/1.4 for FIFTY BUCKS!
I do highly recommend this to all who are also considering the "Big Switch" or just looking for a more compact way to carry their camera with them. But I also suggest the adaptor and use of FD glass! Super cheap!

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eastwestphoto

the old Beer Can 70~210mm minolta A works very fast and very sharp on a LA-EA4 adapter to Sony A7r.

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eastwestphoto

Anyone know why a Tamron AF Aspherical XR IF 28~300mm F:3.5-6.3 macro on a La-EA4 mounted to Sony A7r, will not work? The 1.4 AF telecoverter worked Okay? Same amount of pin? Lens looks newish to me?

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eastwestphoto

Why does my SAL1870 Sony Kit Zoom A350 camera work so well on the LA-EA4 to my Sony A7r? full frame coverage to 24, then the vignetting appears? I didnt expect it to be so sharp! very good image, Why?

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JaimeA

After all the waiting and the bustling excitement how is it possible that Sony released the Zeiss 24-70 Vario-Tessar for the a7r/a7 when there are so many issues with it? Didn’t the people at Sony ever take a shot or test the lens? Bad distortions; very sharp at the center but the image degrading into real softness and blur at the corners make this lens unusable. After many tries the softness remains even stopped down. Zoom lenses are useful for their versatility on the field (some of them are outstanding) especially at this zoom range. What to do? It really is disappointing, and a big tarnish on the Sony name and particularly the Zeiss. A marvelous camera, yet few primes that go with it. Certainly not enough. And unfortunately, there are no signs of an apology or a worthy lens replacement.

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Galbertson

Some serious blogs regarding shutter shake on A7R. My intent is to find light system, certainly not dependent upon sandbags and added weight to pack. I will be on strong tripod, shooting mostly in multiple to 1/15th second, rarely hand held. I could solve shake issue with A7, but need better IQ of A7R.

Have any of you face this issue, and what was your results?

To add, will be shooting mostly manual lenses 24-150mm. I believe this shake is diminished with this range of lenses, but the word diminish scares me. What can i expect? Would certainly not want to buy entire system only to realize images not ideal for sensor and needing to return...if i am permited.

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slpianoproject

People are over reacting with this shutter shake issue. To get the most out of the A7R you need :

1. The best of the best glass available.
2. EXTREMELY accurate focus
3. No camera movement whatsoever (in your case a strong tripod should do)

and THEN you can factor in image degradation due to shutter shake which is close to none (I have yet to see it even tho I shoot at those "dreaded" shutter speeds).

The fact is even if you get to actually see some shutter shake it'll only show up if you do an insane crop (might as well consider you missed the shot at that point) or print extremely large and examine it with a loupe!

I don't know what kind of work you are looking to do but to even consider shutter shake on an A7R as an issue you have to be part of that 1% elite photographers out there for whom every freakin detail matter because they're paid thousands upon thousands for their work.

cont.....

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slpianoproject

Continued :
That kind of photographer prolly have access to way better cameras and doesn't bother for the 2000$ price tag on the A7R body anyway.

What I'm trying to get to here is outside of pixel peeping, there is no way shutter shake on the A7R will be and issue. Even if it does show up, you can always manipulate your ISO just slightly (A7R goes from iso 50--320+ in small increments) and get out of the supposed "danger zone". Yet again, outside of pixel peeping, with that quality of sensor there is NO WAY you will see a difference between ISO 100 and 200, yet you doubled your shutter speed.

In conclusion the A7R has numerous flaws and quirks and while shutter shake might be real, its not what you should consider as an issue. The lack of available lens is something to consider. Lackluster focus speed and accuracy (in low light) is another. The fact that you need flawless technique to get the best out of it is a factor to consider too.

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slpianoproject

Continued :

Just go out there and take a picture with an A7R and the FE 55mm f1.8 Zeiss and you'll see how awesome that camera really is. (try f5.6, it is just insanely sharp!). Shutter shake or not, you'll like what you see.

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Galbertson

In many ways i am the type of photographer you speak of. My main work is shot 4x5, selling in my gallery in average 30"x40" for around $1,000. The a7r is to be light backup camera for scenarios film cannot capture. Also for macro, high def video. The a7r seems to fit ideally. Planned on adapting my old nikkor glass.

Lots on the line when i purchase gear. Yes, i sell my work, but often struggle to keep lights on, must make best researched decision, not much room to just try a system on.

I did not write all those shuttered shake articles, but certainly did listen. The sonys are only full frame mirrorless though.

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Galbertson

Has DPR ever taken on this shake issue? I don't think Imaging Resourse has, of yet. I can easily understand how most photographers would not see it as an issue, but the many websites and blogs regarding shake requires in depth study if this camera can be considered a ideal pro camera. Believe me, i have been looking at sony a7r since it arrived, sooo many features, functions, even buttons, i like. I just want to read an unbiased review about shake under specific slow shutter /adapted lens issue.

Please, just asking for constructive help, not destructive just because i make a living with my camera. If i could afford, i would wait for pentax 645Z. That camera just might replace my 4x5.

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l_d_allan

Jim Kasson has a lengthy series of blog articles on the A7r from late 2013 and early 2014. He addressed the "shutter shake" issue at length, and wasn't able to resolve all that well, IIRC.
http://blog.kasson.com

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ronguo

Using an OSS lens, the shake is not an issue. Shake becomes an issue when 2 factors are combined: the photographer and legacy lens. Shake has always been a problem for SLR days, with the flipping mirrors: we simply learned to compensate. If you can't adjust yourself, you may experience shake. For the A7R specifically, the bulkier the lens and the longer the length, the more apparent the shake may become. This is why I do not use SLR lenses longer than say 75mm, but do use RF lenses up to 135mm, hand held without much problem from shake. After 135, SLR lenses must be used, and these are heavy and bulky, and thus must be tripod mounted on the lens. A monopod helps at all times, and I use this for 90mm RF lenses to obtain perfectly sharp photos when the job is critical. True, the shake is the one aspect of the camera I would like to see resolved entirely; but as it is now, it is mostly overblown by people who cannot adjust to the camera.

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brownie314

No FF cam is going to "shake up the market" until you can buy body and lens as a kit for less than $1000. I know this is possible, it just isn't being done yet.

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Galbertson

Does A7R have mirror lock up?

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Afn

It has permanent mirror lock up :)

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Galbertson

Sorry, i meant first curtain, not mirror. Too bad there is no way of mechanically or somewhere in menu to put a timer, lets say 2-5 second to pre lock up or shutter the first curtain.

Why did sony have electronic first curtain on a7, but not on a7r???

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bawbaw

Great camera, but I wish Sony would hold off releasing bodies without comprehensive lenses that perform. The 50mm is good (although any manufacturer who cannot make a good fast 50 should make lenses full stop!) The zoom is OK ish... The Zeiss 35 is a good lens, but is not as good as the rx1 in comparison? How same lens same sensors etc...

If they had held fire for 6 months and had a wide to tell set of Zeiss nex lenses this would have been a major contender to people who need system cameras, not sensor platforms.

I know you can adapt lenses.. But full AF matched glass designed with the correct sensor requirements are what is needed here.

As Fuji proved with the xpro. Waiting and having a full system from the start has cemented success. Sony have done this over and over again now. Yes we can get the Minolta/Sony AF adapter, but it's a bodge.

Camera makers take note... There is a large population of users who would and will switch systems if you make systems.

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Jonath

While theoretically a great idea, I'd guess Sony's decision has more to do with commercial reality than anything else. Fuji is a case in point, despite its success the last time its imaging division reported it was loss making, we'll have to wait till mid 2014 to see if this is still true..

As for Sony, their strategy isn't perfect, but given this reality it is kind of understandable. 35 and 50 are two very popular focal lengths, for tele, there are already several high quality e-mount lenses available and with the crop-ability of the A7R's 36Mp, I'd argue that you really don't need FF glass (and it's bulk) for tele shooting.

For ultra-wide situations then MF is also OK. I own the Samyang 14mm for example, never once have I thought it could do with AF.

For me the best thing about the A7R is that it can be small if you want it to be (think Zeiss 35 or e-mount) and if you want class leading FF quality then it can also do that with aplomb, albeit with the inevitable size pay off.

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Camley

I don't have a problem with Sony's approach. Instead of waiting for months, I had the camera in December with an excellent 35 f/2.8 lens.
I bought a Metabones Smart Adapter so I could use my Canon lenses as well. So immediately I had the Zeiss 35, a 100 f/2.8 macro, a 70-200 f/4 zoom, a 400 f/5.6 and several more lenses.
I bought the superb Zeiss 55 f/1.8 when it was released.
Now I will take my time selecting additional native lenses.

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KAllen

GPS or lack of is stopping me on this. I've done the software add data thing in post and it's hit and miss for what I do.
Having gps position and height is a good plus for me and much better when added at the taking stage.
Still a possibility for my Canon L lenses when pixel count matters.

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hippo84

Dear Dpreview. You used CZ85/1.4 for picture quality comparison. What adapter did You use, with SLT or without it?

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Diobono

Any thoughts about connecting the A7r with the new series of Sigma lenses?

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Jonath

I've already done this and have the Sigma 35 f/1.4 DG art with the LA-EA4 adapter. OK its not as petite as the Zeiss, but the picture quality is truly outstanding and AF is snappy. Will find it difficult not to buy the 50mm when its available.

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Average User

I have been right on the edge of purchasing this camera, but after reading this review in detail, maybe not. I went back to the review of the Nex 7 which was nearly 3 years ago and the reason I purchased that camera. I also purchased good E-mount glass for it, and I have not been disappointed.
But this review is not like that. That review was full of enthusiasm for the Nex 7, even concluding: "in terms of out-and-out image quality it's probably the best APS-C camera yet, regardless of size." A far cry from this review, full of cautions and quibbles.
The only reason to purchase ff instead of APS-c is better low light performance. But with high quality much less expensive fast glass, and a number of problems in jpegs etc., it seems like the reviewers are telling me the real life results with my old Nex 7 is going to equal or beat the performance of this camera.

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l_d_allan

> The only reason to purchase ff instead of APS-c is better low light performance.

Also, more shallow DOF. And premium UWA lenses.

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Galbertson

With Metabones for nikon f mount to e mount, i had read in blogs, there is no apeture control. I an only assume this incorrect, my older nikkor manual lenses certainly have apeture dial/apeture control. Anything i am not understanding? This would be on a7r.

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AnDon

I think it means "adapter ring itself does not have aparture control ring "
Some adapter rings has control ring for Nikon "G" lenses which have no aperture ring.

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olddog99

If you are dealing with older lenses,you should be fine just setting the aperture that way -- assuming you don't plan to open wide then stop down, I.e. It's manual.

Newer lenses usually are missing both f stop on lens setting as well as DOF marks,. I use Leica lenses, vintage and modern lenses, on my NEX-7, because it's relatively easy.

It was a factor in my buying the 7R - not yet here. It might be more difficult if you use the Metabones Speed Increase. I haven't tried it yet.

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Wang Man

Holy mackerel, my Leica APO-Macro-Elmarit-R 1:2.8 / 100mm has risen from the grave. I use the Novoflex NEX/LER adapter to attach this big bad lens to my A7r, and by golly the pictures are GORGEOUS.

One thing though, the A7r with this heavy lens is a bit unwieldy, a tripod is a good idea.

I intent to resurrect all my old Leicaflex R lens (28mm, 50mm, 135mm) with this A7r. Thank you Sony, the Leica M240 half baked "R solution" is no where close to the pleasure of using all my old Leica R glass with the A7r.

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John Donnelly

Absolutely! I converted 12 Leica R Primes to Nikon mounts by Leitax, and a Metabones adapter. I'm so happy to be reusing these superb lenses after a decade in the drawer.

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Mike FL

Sony 7 is NO longer a "Weather sealed camera" due to LIGHT LEAK issue.

Too bad.

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Overmars

Hmmm... if anyone wants to get rid of their A7r because of this issue. Please, think of me. I don't know what I'll do with it (can it still take pictures? No matter). Rest assured, it will be in a caring, loving home. :)

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Galbertson

Will LCD at horizontal hold up hoodman hood 3x loupe? Just called camera shop, they said LCD mechanism weak, lightweight, not strong enough to hold loupe. Can it be tightened, or will it only get weaker and weaker with continual use?

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Maaku

$2300 and no charger?

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Overmars

On Amazon you can get a charger and two batteries for $27.

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PaulDavis

I felt felt you Dame way but find I like being able able plus it into any USB charger everywhere I go. I even charge it in my car. I bought a charger and extra battery on ebay for $19.00 so I found it to be a good set up.

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olddog99

I already have the charger, actually 2, but it's the same damned battery as the NEX-7 which is otherwise a great camera. People bitch about the Canon 5D2 and 3. They're good for roughly twice th frames. But most cameras or lenses have some shortcoming of little consequence. One thing that mattered to me was size and weight. The NEX-7 served well as a travel sub for the 5D3 and the 7R should make a good sub and more.

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eastwestphoto

Here is a trade secret; On the NEW Sony A7r 36Meg full frame DSLM, this teleconverter Panasonic Lumix DMV-LT52 1.4x can be mounted to the Kit lens 28~70 FE series SEL2870 and now at 1.4x its 28~100mm. OSS still works, Fine focus at 7x works, the image quality is excellent. Mounting is via step up ring 52>55mm, weight increases too 24ozs for the lens package and the lens is 80mm wide. Thats a big hunk of beautiful glass, does the F:stop increase? Hum, piece of cake! Don@eastwestphoto

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yuri sieradzki

Is there a pssibility to connect sony7r on hotshoe a GPS to locate the place tahat it was taken/

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Galbertson

Are all Voightlander lenses adaptable to sony a7/a7r? I read somewhere some are sharp, some are not. Hoping to be in 35-65mm range.

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PaulDavis

Yes they are adaptable. The range yiu are considering would been good. If you go too wide then you start running into issues.

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Galbertson

In comparison to 1970's nikkor glass, which might be sharper, obviously both requiring adapter?

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eastwestphoto

Zeiss voigtlander m42 thread ULTRON 50mm F:1.8 is a amazing lens on the A7r. manual focus 7x set for 5 sec. duration, par excellence. Don@eastwestphoto

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Nijuc

I m using フォクトレンダー(Voigtländer ) 20mm 1.4F and 40mm 3.5f . mage my hand shake, it comes out OK

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Dr Panos G Adamopoulos

I am not a Pro, but I have been taking p'graphs passionately for more than 30 years and my collection of cameras & lenses is quite extensive; predominantly Canon, Nikon & Leica, in a chronological order.
I found the marriage of Alpha 7R & 24-70mm f/4 w/h Leica Lenses an Unbeatable combination with Unlimited possibilities, at a very reasonable price; assuming one has the M Lenses.....!!!!
Imagine Alpha 7R Full Frame 37MP Focusing through a Noctilux 50mm f/0.95..... BeautiFul.....!!!

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twfsir

One point everyone seems to miss, is that Sony was smart enough to have Zeiss make the lenses for the camera. Next to Leica, Zeiss makes the best glass in my opinion. I agree the sony name in cameras is not near as great as many others, but I do think they did build a unique camera with the Zeisss lens.

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Revenant

Sony Zeiss lenses are not made by Zeiss, but by Sony, just as the Panasonic Leica lenses are made by Panasonic, not by Leica. I suppose that Zeiss has approved the designs and/or manufacturing methods, but they aren't involved in the makiing of the lenses.

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twfsir

The Sony a7R has some nice features for my purposes. I was looking for a lighter small camera than my Leica, but I wanted to be able to take decent photographs. I feel the Sony has that ability except sony needs to develope more lenses in the near future. The three lenses they currenty have are not fast enough, and I would like to see some wider angle lenses. I have used some of my Leica lenses on the Sony, and they do work well, but it sort of defeats the purpose, because it adds weight and size, and you can no longer use the auto focusing.

The reason I am writing is that I hope I can get someother owners to put pressure on Sony to develope those lenses.

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Overmars

"The three lenses they currenty have are not fast enough, "

The Sony FE 55mm F1.8 ZA is fast.

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Gymstar

I really tried to buy one. Both the Sony Store at Dubai Mall and the airport tried to sell me a body. However, neither had ANY lenses in stock to fit the body. This for me gave off warning signals. Not a single lens that fit! Shame, but I'll stick to Canon for now at least.

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Galbertson

Are there any reasonably priced, smallish, above average resolution medium zooms for a7? My primes will be old nikkor. And it would be fortunate if zoom had image stablization, no need on primes.

I am solely landscape shooter, 95% on tripod, desiring gallery quality 16x20 and 20x24 prints, mostly b&w...should i get the a7r instead?

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yoyokal

I think the kill of fullframe ILC still the lens. When the big lens, say 70-300mm, attached to this camera, the benefit of mirrorless already gone. I hope in the future they make a jump to create small lenses like used on automatic focus glasses using liquid (http://www.superfocus.com/) electronically.

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Camley

Yoyokal, the major advantage of a full frame mirrorless camera is amazing image quality in a small package, that is well suited to the wide angle to short telephoto range. This covers nearly all my photographic needs.
My Canon telephotos (up to 800mm) don't get a lot of use. I have a Metabones Adapter so I can fit these lenses on my a7, but I prefer my 7D DSLR for its better handling, tracking etc..
Certainly I wouldn't travel with any serious telephoto lenses unless I go on safari!
The Zeiss 35 f/2.8 and 55 f/1.8 make a good pair of travel lenses or you could just take a 24-70 f/4 zoom.
I think that mirrorless cameras in general (not just full frame) are not well suited to the use of medium to long telephoto lenses. You can pick up a relatively cheap DSLR to handle these lenses so much better. If you are a serious bird or aircraft photographer, you would naturally chose a DSLR. You could do it using a mirrorless camera but why would you?

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Bhima78

I think Yoyokal already showed that the advantage of such a great compact body with excellent image quality (such as this Sony) is made moot by the fact that the good lenses are big and heavy, making the camera less like a small mirrorless and more like a DSLR in size and weight.

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tlacerda

I find that my A7's shutter release button is quite "mushy". There is no clear stop point for locking focus, and it never seems to click. Can someone who owns the camera chime in here? Is this defective or do u also get this?

Thanks!

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barry reid

Shutter button feel is pretty good IMHO, while there's no step where the focus locks there is a good level of resistance and reasonable length of travel. I find it quite easy to work with, to focus without actually tripping the shutter, certainly no worse than my 5DII or the 1Dx i used to have.

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siggo

Can someone please point me to some full resolution raw shots using the 55mm and 35mm lens and software to try converting them?

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Galbertson

Is anyone so fortunate to have purchased and objectively used both a7 or a7r and fuji x-t1. I love fuji glass and their film on my toyo 4c5. Have only owned sony TVs and recorders, not their cameras. I have had both in my hands. The fuji rear button stupidly small, but maybe could acclimate. The sony buttons nicly tactile.i am mostly blind and i must overly research. Some camera functions can be total roadblocks to advancing. A honest comparison would greatly be appreciated.
Thanks,

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Galbertson

Curious why "reply" button not on all statements

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l_d_allan

Just the "top" of a thread, like yours. I don't think there will be a "Reply" option on my post.
Or not?

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Tom in VB

As a working pro with over 40 years shooting for the worlds major mags I am beset with the following regarding the new Sony A7r

How any major camera company that is so innovative could have possibly
produced such a fine camera with a DEPLORABLY LOUD SHUTTER NOISE. This knocks it out of the potential catagory for me after I had waited so long for :
1- full frame.
2-nice glass
3- small and light cuz I'm old and weak:>

My thoughts are simple: why so close but so far?
We put 12 people on the moon and brought them all back = tech is in place.
My Leica M3 (circa 1960's) had the most beautiful soft shutter "tish" sound in the world .... it was mirrorless ... the Sony is mirrorless!?!?!

Maybe Sony should adapt the Leica shutter:> How about a Leica cloth shutter sound in the apps tabs :>:>

BTW: I'm a shooter not a gear head so I like solid basics not bells and ....

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Glina

Leica M3 had a 1/1000 shutter. Sony has 1/8000.
Even though the A7 is loud-ish, I love that sound. Still considerably smoother and quieter than on a Sony A850.
For stealth use RX1 is still the king, but it uses a leaf shutter.

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Camley

Tom what digital camera(s) do you use?

When I evaluate a camera, I look at a list of features and don't get so bent out of shape over one minor issue. I certainly would not mention landing men on the moon!!

What is the top speed of a Leica cloth shutter? I believe that lens caps make almost no sound but they only have a few seconds maximum shutter speed.

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jagatai

Remember that what this camera is doing is a bit more like what a Hasselblad does when you fire the shutter. It first has to close the shutter to prepare to take the image. It then opens and closes the shutter to take the exposure and then reopens the shutter to go back to live view mode.

I suspect the shutter could be made quieter, but there may be trade offs in terms of price or maximum speed.

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barry reid

I like the shutter sound. Businesslike and not a million miles from that of the Canon 5D

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TomUW

I find the Canon 5D on the loud side, and the A7R on the extremely loud side, plus it produces 2 loud sounds for every shot.
I was shooting a model with it and then pulled out my Canon 6D on quiet shutter mode, she couldn't tell when I was taking the image with the 6D, and the Sony reps around me were really surprised at the difference in sound levels. Cuts the A7R out of several applications for me, like anywhere someone else is recording sound.

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probert500

If they're recording sound get a blimp.
Either get less jumpy models or use deaf ones. How many fashion shots were done with a hasselblad - now there's some mirror slap.

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