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Performance

The a6000 is a fast and responsive camera. All the controls react essentially instantly to any change you make and there haven't been any occasions on which we've found ourselves waiting for the camera to perform the requested task or be ready for the next task.

Continuous Shooting and Buffering

There are three speeds available in continuous shooting mode, appropriately named low, middle, and high. Sony claims that the a6000 can reach frame rates of 2.5, 6, and 11fps, respectively. That last number is one of the best you'll find in the mirrorless world. And, for all three of those modes, the camera can continuously focus, which should make it quite capable at tracking moving subjects (see below for more on that).

The camera appears to always show the previously-shot frame, rather than trying to offer live-view between shots, but by the time you get to 11fps, it's quite hard to tell the difference.

Let's see how the a6000 performed in the high speed mode. We used a SanDisk Extreme Pro with a 95MB/sec write speed to ensure that we're getting the best out of the camera.

Timing
Large/Fine JPEG
Raw
Raw+Fine JPEG
Frame rate 11.4 fps 11.6 fps 11.5 fps
Number of frames 49 shots 22 shots 21 shots
Buffer full rate 2.3 fps 1.6 fps 1.1 fps
Write complete 20 secs * 11 secs ** 10 secs **
* After 58 shot burst
** After 30 shot burst

As you can see, the a6000 exceeds Sony's estimate by about 0.5 fps and can take quite a few shots before the buffer fills. The bad news is that the camera is 'locked up', meaning that you cannot enter the menus or playback mode, until 10 - 20 seconds have passed.

Autofocus

Sony placed great emphasis on the focus capabilities of the a6000 when we were briefed about the camera. Having heard many promises about on-sensor phase detection before, we took them with a reasonable amount of salt. Our skepticism has proven unnecessary, in this case - the a6000 is very, very good.

The camera's Lock-on focus system can be set to activate when you half-press the shutter (a great improvement over older implementations that required you to select and confirm the subject - missing valuable shooting time, if the subject was moving). The focus point selection mode defines the area in which the camera will look for a subject and it seems pretty good at working out what you're trying to shoot. It'll identify faces and people as likely targets or revert to shooting the closest item, if it doesn't find something more interesting.

Unlike the newer a77 II, the a6000 offers no controls over how persistently the camera will stick on the chosen subject (that option only exists for movie shooting). In our experience, this can be influenced by changing the autofocus point selection mode. If you manually specify a focus point using 'Flexible Spot' mode, the camera will refocus back to the originally specified point if the subject deviates off it for too long. However, using the 'Zone' or 'Wide Area' modes lets the camera be a bit more confident that it's following the correct subject, and will stay locked for longer.

Frame 1
Frame 2
Frame 3
Frame 4
Frame 5
Frame 6
Frame 7
Frame 8
Frame 9
Frame 10

These ten sequential frames were taken from roughly the middle of a sequence of 43 images, shot at a rate of 11 frames per second. All taken at 1/1600th seconds at F4, using the Sony FE 70-200mm F4 OS.

Not every frame is in perfect focus (two in this sequence are noticeably out-of-focus, another two fall short of perfect sharpness), but six of these shots are very well focused. In all, over 70% of the 43-shot sequence are usefully sharp, and still more are tolerably in focus.

This is a very impressive result for a camera at this price, especially when you consider that it hasn't slowed its shooting rate in order to achieve this level of accuracy.

As always, these results depend on a number of factors, including the lens used. We got similar results using the Sony ZA 16-70mm F4 OSS and the Sony FE 70-200mm F4 OSS, but the 70-200 gave us shallower depth of field, making it easier to assess and demonstrate the focus hit-rate. Results are much harder to judge with the 16-50mm powerzoom (since its slower maximum aperture offers more depth of field and it's never particularly sharp, making it harder to judge focus), but our impression was more missed shots as the rate of focus adjustment seems to be slower.

Battery Life

Sony's E-mount cameras have never offered particularly great battery life, since they rely on the relatively small NP-FW50. These are stated as offering around 7.7Wh, which translates as around 360 shots per charge, according to CIPA standard testing. This figure drops to 310 if you use the electronic viewfinder. These are competitive figures for the a6000's class, but it's worth bearing in mind that use of the power zoom, shooting movies and using the camera's Wi-Fi will significantly reduce the battery life.

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nanomatrix
By nanomatrix (15 hours ago)

Anybody know what lens DPR used on the A6000 to take the Studio Scene comparisons shots?

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mikeor
By mikeor (16 hours ago)

Planning to purchase alpha6000 body.

Is the Sony SEL16F28 16mm f/2.8 Wide-Angle Lens better than the kit 16-50? I have not seen a direct comparison. Have you?

I have no use for the kit lens at anything other than at 16mm (for 98% of shots), so from my point of view it's heavier and bigger than the sel16f28... but cheaper ($150) versus $248 plus $119 = $370 for the sel16f28 with the
Sony VCL-ECU1 Ultra Wide Converter, 0.75x.

I would view both of above as potential walk about pocketable lenses. I assume that neither would approach the Zeiss 12mm f/2.8 Touit Series for Sony E-mount NEX Cameras which I'd really like to have... but at $710 new, $600 used I'm not quite ready to spring for that... and it looks like quite a large hunk of glass... there would be no dropping the camera in a big pocket with that thing.

So for someone who shoots only very wide to slightly wide angle focal lengths, kits lens versus the SEL16F28 16mm f/2.8 seems like the right question. What say you?

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jonmcphoto
By jonmcphoto (5 days ago)

Hello DPREVIEW. I have the Sony-a6000 and it does not have an x-tra fine jpeg setting. It has fine and standard. Please contact me if this is incorrect. Thanks.

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Strachen
By Strachen (1 week ago)

Strange that an model that starts with the a does not take a mount lens. Just sayin.......

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Scott Nicol
By Scott Nicol (1 week ago)

Technically all the NEX cameras were Alpha-NEX so its been the case for many years BUT I do take your point - its confusing to exisiting owners let alone the average buyer - Sony's brand management and communications are amongst the worst in the industry in my opinion which must be frustrating for the guys actually designing, making and selling the cameras.... and I say that as a long term owner and user of alpha mount and NEX cameras.

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caterpillar
By caterpillar (1 day ago)

In time, this will be moot, maybe in 5-7 years. Although they never said it, and will never say it, the long term plan really is to eventually kill off the SLT line. Thus, in time, Alpha will just be mirrorless.

Once they build the first global shutter alpha ILCE, the handwriting will be on the wall for DSLRs and SLTs. But it will be a gradual phase out stretching maybe 7-10 years. You'll know this is happening when the no. of SLT they introduce each year is outnumbered by 1:3 or 5 or more.

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tecnoworld
By tecnoworld (3 weeks ago)

This morning I had the opportunity to test this camera for about one hour (formerly I tried it in shop only). The af is impressive to say the least, compared to my Samsung nx300 (even with its fastest lenses on, like myn16-50 f2-2.8). I was able to lock focus on a passing biker and on a flying bird, with great precision. Also the buffer is great (the one of nx300 is ridiculous).

The evf is not as good as the one in x-e2, but does not show rainbows as the one in nx30 does.

I don't like the lack of a touch screen. I use it for focus point setting only, but that is handy. The rear display is about at the same level (quite low) of my nx300. Not visible in sunlight. But a6000 has evf, so it's fine.

I love the form factor, feels great in hands and during use.

I'm still perplexed about lens offering by Sony. Some good but expensive ones, many not so good ones.

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rajusa
By rajusa (2 weeks ago)

If you want to see a brilliant review on the A6000, go to Gary Fong's review on youtube.com; that will definitely help you make the right decision before you purchase.

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justmeMN
By justmeMN (1 month ago)

It should also get an Award for Worst Kit Lens. :-)

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brian57
By brian57 (1 month ago)

Just picked one up yesterday. I bought a 5N as my travel/grab and go camera two years ago when I didn't want to lug my SLR set up, which is currently a 5D3 and assorted lenses. I invested pretty heavily in the Sony NEX system with the Zeiss 24 mm and Sony 50 1.8 primes, assuming the 5N would grow on me, given it's IQ. But even with the optional EVF (expensive but worth it) I could never get comfortable with the camera's clunky menu system. Loving my recent Fuji X100s, I started to contemplate the move to the X-T1 as my travel system. But then I read the great reviews on the A6000 and (reluctant to take the hit on selling the E mount lenses) decided to give Sony one more chance. I'm impressed. It's what I hoped the 5N would be. The sensor and overall IQ is even better (it was never the problem with the 5N anyway) and the AF is impressive now. The UI and menu system and customizable buttons are so much better. Pop-up flash and built in EVF are just good enough. A winner, Sony!

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Saldahna
By Saldahna (1 month ago)

Both mine today. I use it as a take everywhere, as an addition to my heavy Nikon 800 and all the pro Zooms. I must say, that I'm happy with the speed of the Autofocus and the quality of the pictures. The 24 mp Sensor is guide good. You can't get more for this price. Every single Nikon lens that I own costs far more than this Camera. I like it.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

And to really blow your mind, order the Metabones adapter for Nikon lenses.

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McQuestion
By McQuestion (1 month ago)

There are many things to like about this camera, but I really wish this review came down harder on the rear screen. It's not an exaggeration to say it's terrible.

The screen itself is useless in the sun, due to the glossy finish, and the flip design is far too limiting. The only practical use I can think of is for taking shots straight on, from directly above or below, provided you are indoors. I find myself longing for the articulated rear screen of my Canon G2 from over ten years ago. Even though it was the size of a postage stamp, it was far easier to see and was useful for taking shots from a variety of angles.

I understand that there are limitations due to form factor, making an articulating screen difficult to squeeze in the package, but it's not impossible. A drop and swivel design would work. For better visibility, some anti-glare solution is a must.

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Dellis12
By Dellis12 (1 month ago)

Could agree more given my experience with the NEX 6. Sounds like it's the same with the a6000. The screen glares out in bright sun--brightening it up so the image is visible blows out the colors so you don't have any real idea of what you've shot until you download the files into Lightroom. Overall, not a confidence building shooting experience. It's a shame because the sensor tech and IQ potential of Sony cameras are so high.

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McQuestion
By McQuestion (1 month ago)

I'm going to put a low glare cover on it, and that may help some. I'd be content with that solution but for the lack of flexibility due to the hinge configuration. With the viewfinder in place, the main purpose of the screen for me is to frame shots that I take from extreme angles or for candid shots. In portrait orientation the hinged viewfinder isn't functional. It's a compromise I'll have to adjust to. Just wish the reviewers would give a little more weight to these practical aspects, rather than focusing so heavily on pixel count, for the benefit of both consumers and the manufacturers.

The odd thing is, something like the clickless aperture ring of the RX100III receives an undue amount of attention from a "user experience" standpoint. Guess it depends on the reviewer.

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dcolak
By dcolak (1 month ago)

And then there is that low res dark EVF that makes difficult reading info above and below the picture.

Menus look atrociously low res too.

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pixelatorcw
By pixelatorcw (1 month ago)

Select Monitor Brightness = "Sunny Weather" and you should have no problem using the screen in the sunlight.

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McQuestion
By McQuestion (1 month ago)

Thanks! I will give that a try.

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FiveForm
By FiveForm (3 weeks ago)

dcolak, I don't know why you take issue with the EVF. I shot the NEX-7 for two years prior to owning the a6000 and the denser the pixels on the same size EVF always blocked out the shadows and grained out detail when it gained up in low light levels. I find the a6000 EVF to be very nice and an improvement. Funny how we get swayed by the numbers, even when the user experience states otherwise, IMHO...

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Jostian
By Jostian (5 days ago)

think the detail on the EVF is great, have the NEX6 and think the A6000 actually looks better, so not sure what the problem is with the 'low res' (you say, joker) EVF, its brilliant I think, use it all the time. Maybe you forgot to adjust the diopter... my menus and settings are crisp.

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Steen K
By Steen K (1 month ago)

This camera is so tempting, but what about the lens lineup. The kit lens is crap it looks, so there is only one way, Zeiss which is very expensive. Why doens't Sony make some descent lenses of their own? Dellis12, you write that you have som really sharp E-mount ones, which are they? Does all e-mount fit the a6000 and what about autofocus etc?

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Dellis12
By Dellis12 (1 month ago)

There's no substitute for good glass and it costs money--that's the way it's always been (Canon L, any Leica, etc) and always will be. I have the Zeiss 16-70 and the Sony 10-18. They're not Canon L or Leica level glass, but as good as it gets from Sony at this stage. I've found them both to be quick focusing, sharp and able to produce wonderful images. It's the NEX 6 user experience that keeps me from using them more often.

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Chanex
By Chanex (1 month ago)

The sigma range of e-mount lens are nice and sharp, I have the 19mm & 30mm f2.8's myself. The 30mm works out sharper than sony's own 35mm f1.8 although the oss and wide aperture are useful and the bokeh is a lot smoother.

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FujLiver
By FujLiver (1 month ago)

yes all e-mount fits the a6000
the zeiss lenses are actually Sony Zeiss and are the top end
They are all excellent.
It doesn't have to be Sony Zeiss, the 35mm f1.8 is also excellent

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Jostian
By Jostian (5 days ago)

kit lens is fine, read a few reviews on it, not sharp like a prime but its resolution figures are more than fine (for a kit lens). the PZ lens is great size wise too and 16mm (24mmm in 35mm terms) is nice and wide, nope, the kit lens ain't bad at all.

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David zzzzzzzzzz
By David zzzzzzzzzz (1 month ago)

Sony's constant tinkering with its products is disturbing. Equally disturbing is when the model you have is almost instantly obsolete! Sony's commitment to some of its products must be questioned at this point.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

I'm sorry for bringing this up, but what model is that you have? Thanks

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David zzzzzzzzzz
By David zzzzzzzzzz (1 month ago)

The Sony A35 DSLT. It has some features that are better than the A58 (better LCD) but lower resolution. It looks like to me that Sony is dropping the low end in favor of the A3000 which appears to have some unfortunate compromises.

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pixelatorcw
By pixelatorcw (1 month ago)

I really do not find innovation to be 'disturbing', rather on the contrary. So I accept that my Nex-6 was replaced with the a6000 after 18 months. I find the lack of a replacement model for my 7d much more disturbing - after 5 years.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

As has been said before, computers, smartphones, and camera bodies, are on a short life cycle. It is the glass that matters. This is true except for Canon. I returned a 7D for having atrocious noise 4 years ago. This year I tried again. SL1: I really wanted to like the camera. I loved the size. However, the sensor noise was just as bad as 4 years ago. So I returned it. Then I discovered the a6000. So I moved from the worst APSC sensor to the best. I'm happy with a small camera again. The last time I moved big to small and was really happy was 1970! Lenhof to Pentax 6x7 SLR. That tiny little 6x7 was a dream machine. Flash sync at a 30th of a second. Talk about a large mirror. Those were the days!

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Dellis12
By Dellis12 (1 month ago)

Really on the fence between OMD-EM1 and a6000. I understand the format and price differences. Have NEX 6, love the IQ, size and have a couple of E-mount lenses that are really sharp. But I'm completely unmotivated to shoot with it. The menu system is infuriating--the whole thing is over-complicated and feels twitchy. Can't tell from a hour or so in the store whether the a6000 won't be the same thing--can't tell from reviews, either. The NEX 6 makes great pictures, no question and I suspect the a6000 will, too. Am thinking the Oly is a better alternative, despite price and slight IQ loss...

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

I found the a6000s interface to be quite nice. Actually, you have two entirely different ways to interact with it. The menus are completely different from your 6, since it uses alpha menus. But I really like the short cuts to just about everything with the buttons. And you can customize those buttons so everything works just the way you want it to. However, why not rely on your own experience instead of what I say. Order the a6000, all the big guys have 30 day return policies. Give it a thorough working out. If you don't like it return it, and order the other camera. And test it out. Then you can still return that one if you decide to go with the a6000. No guessing. I like the a6000 much more than my D800, D700, or Lumix G3. It is just way more fun to shoot with. I love it. And yes, the IQ is superb. And I just love that 11fps. I'm getting shots I never knew I had missed.

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Dellis12
By Dellis12 (1 month ago)

Appreciate the reply and will give it a try. I really like the Sony IQ overall (Have RX100, as well) and hate to have to part with the lenses if I really don't have to. Just once bitten, twice shy. Thanks!

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FujLiver
By FujLiver (1 month ago)

The OM-10 is great to handle but the IQ is disappointing after Sony.
I think the A6000 is a jump over the Nex6. Go into a shop and see.
Fuji has comparable IQ if you like their designs. I like the X-E2 best, despite the hype over the X-T1

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Smokymtnhiker
By Smokymtnhiker (1 month ago)

"Lack of included external charger makes keeping a second battery charged awkward"

You mentioned this as a con. Seriously? You guys are really reaching here...

Not much of a con when you can get an external charger(vivitar) which works by both AC, and DC(car lighter) for $12 delivered from Amazon. I've been using it for a couple of months with my A7R and it works perfectly.

Can't really comment on the a6000, but I am thinking about getting one to compliment the A7R.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

I have the a6000, and I like shooting with it much more than my D800. It's just fun to use. D800, not so much. A7R: I've been reading about shutter vibration causing image degradation at certain shutter speeds. Have you seen any of that?

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luky
By luky (1 month ago)

I heard about it and it seems brought a lot of concerns but my friends used it said didn't find it.

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McQuestion
By McQuestion (1 month ago)

It's a valid complaint, and I'm glad it's included in the review. As you point out, a charger costs only $12 retail, meaning that Sony is excluding an important piece of the kit to save about $5 per camera, banking on selling the charger as an aftermarket accessory for $50. Similarly, they don't include the caps for the body or lens when you buy the kit either. That nickle and dime sales strategy is annoying.

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dcolak
By dcolak (1 month ago)

A7R is useless between 1/60 and 1/200. Well, useless as in "instead of getting 36mp resolution you get 16mp resolution" because of the shutter vibration. I use FE 55 lens.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

Wow! Not good. What did/is Sony Tech support doing about it?

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Smokymtnhiker
By Smokymtnhiker (1 month ago)

I have noticed no "shutter vibration" problem at all with the A7R. Maybe you need a better tripod or steadier hands :0

Complaining about needing a $12 charger with a $600 camera is silly at best.

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Chanex
By Chanex (1 month ago)

One thing I only picked up on after using the camera is that you can charge it with any micro-usb charger - came in handy when I was visiting a friends house :). Would have been nice to have the external charger as well though of course

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luky
By luky (1 month ago)

Anyone used its feature of DMF? It is said it will return back in 2, 5, and never seconds after enlarging focus for fine adjustment. But, it doesn't return back as specified, 2 seconds for example. The time to return back will be much longer or never. As such, it can't be good for fine adjustment on focus. How do you deal with it? Please kindly share your experince and way to overcome. Thanks!

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

Read your post, chased down some comments. One said it works as described in MF mode. I don't know if that is true, but I tried it. In MF with focus peaking enabled, it zooms as soon as I turn the focus ring. Then releases as soon as I touch the shutter button with peaking showing the item I focused on in focus per the peaking highlight. BTW: focus peaking is off during the zoom at which time I focus visually during the zoom. So what does/should DMF be doing that is any different from that, I don't have no idea.

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luky
By luky (1 month ago)

Thanks a lot for your comments after test. Do appreciate! In fact, I have been used NEX-7 for quite long time and now it has worn out. Also, because of the faster focusing speed a6000, I got a new a6000 to replace. I do like to "Anti Motion Blur" Mode of NEX-7 plus DMF under "AF/MF Select" and I think it is the best combination to capture almost any scenery that I couldn't miss. After having a6000, I also set with this combination and I immediately found a6000 doesn't work well this way as I described earlier. Will anyone use this way as well? Did you find same problem in your a6000? I'm wondering how do you deal with it or needs Sony to upgrade firmware or any remedy to take? Do appreciate any inputs. Thank DPJoe2 again!

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nrshapiro
By nrshapiro (1 month ago)

I ended up returning the camera for other reasons a week ago, but with the Zeiss 16-70 lens, I found DMF worked great. Much better than with the Panny G5. I can't tell you the timing, but once you stop focusing, I think it returns quickly, which I liked (since I want to see the whole picture again).

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luky
By luky (1 month ago)

Thanks nrshapiro! That is exactly what I want: I want to see the whole picture again to reframe the shot. It sounds you didn't encounterred the problem. It is the problem of this of my a6000. It is not about the lens. It is about the body of the camera. Thanks againg f or helping me to locate where the problem is.

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Onur Otlu
By Onur Otlu (1 month ago)

Hello,
Even though I haven't tried the A6000, I would like to share how it is like on the NEX-6, it should be similar.
When using the kit "Powerzoom", with DMF enabled, turning either ring normally controls zoom. Once you have half-pressed the shutter to focus, keeping the shutter half-pressed and turning the *front* ring (around the lens) will adjust focus, showing the peaking display.
The 2 and 5 seconds work as expected for me - I also find 5 seconds too long, since I'd rather return to the "full frame" quickly.
Personally, I think it would be a better idea to assign the front ring permanently to focus with DMF, similar to MF mode. We always have the zoom "lever" to zoom.

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Onur Otlu
By Onur Otlu (1 month ago)

Oh, one quick question: Does the focus magnification also have two levels on the A6000?
With the NEX-6 there are two levels, with odd numbers like 4,8x and 9,6x. It's not comfortable to switch between the two since the zoom toggle soft-button is not easy to reach while holding the camera, and I really don't see much more detail with the 9,6x zoom.
I would like to know if there are still two magnification levels, and if it's really "worth it" to switch to the higher magnification. Maybe if they relocated the magnification zoom button to an easier-to-press location..

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

Relax on the touch screen: as soon as Apple completes its deal to buy Sony, all iCams will have a touch screen and iOS8 for cameras. Bull yes, but could it, should it happen.

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Tom Caldwell
By Tom Caldwell (1 month ago)

I don't have any native E-mount lenses (my problem) so I cannot see any advantages (only disadvantages) in the A6000 over the NEX6. Chunkier body if that lights your fie and more megapixels to make it burn brighter. Throw away a good evf certainly leaves room to bring it back in a later model as "an improvement". Did I miss something?

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Raist3d
By Raist3d (1 month ago)

Much better interface. Faster and better AF. Better faster LCD even of lower res.

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happy guardian
By happy guardian (1 month ago)

It is obvious DPR are strongly pushing sales for the a6000. It is being featured on the front page headlines for the longest time already.

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Random Photographer
By Random Photographer (1 month ago)

Obviously. It's not like they just recently reviewed the thing and figured that it may attract a wider-than-usual audience because of it's price point and capabilities (and size). Nope. Don't you hate it when your flash bounces off your tinfoil hat and ends up blinding you? gets on my nerves all the time. I wish they reviewed something that would stop that and put it on the headlines. It would sell like hotcakes, amirite?

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

WOW Random, Let me enlighten you. I used to have that foil problem too. Then some smart guy invented black matte foil for photographers. Haven't been blinded since I started using it. B&H and Adorama both have it. Try it, you'll love it.

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Random Photographer
By Random Photographer (1 month ago)

Hmph, well they should review it and put it on the headlines. Along with a guide on how to pick out sarcasm in photos.

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explorer70
By explorer70 (1 month ago)

I'm using the A6000 with the 16-70 zoom and the 32mm touit and it's a great alternative to my 5D3 with ZE and L lenses, when I need to travel light but still get excellent IQ.

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Everlast66
By Everlast66 (1 month ago)

Is the 32mm touit native E-mount and is it AF or manual focus?

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

It is available as a Sony E-mount or Fuji, and supports all camera functions, including AF.

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papa natas
By papa natas (1 month ago)

OMG...
The persnickety panel is on the chase again.
I care better about having fun and keep my mental balance than falling to the endless pit of the new model's dissertation.
This is what I do whenever I have doubts about a new camera, or at least what I did when I wanted to buy this new a6000:
I went to the Sony store, asked for the demo, which was brought to me by a very nice salesperson, and he explained to me about the greatness of this new camera.
Boy!! Was I ever satisfied and convinced? YES!!
I ordered one and the 18-105 zoom.
Both items with a manufacturer's rebate!!!
Do I sound simpleton & stupid? Maybe.
But I bought a product thinking of the great innovations I did not have 20 years ago, instead of buying a new product thinking of what I'll be missing.
Bitching about what is not there.
Many years ago I understood that I wasn't going to own THA camera, wasn't going to shoot THA picture, and wasn't going to win THA contest.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

You're right, they are on patrol. You know, some people wouldn't be happy if you hung'm with a new rope.

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papa natas
By papa natas (1 month ago)

They won't like the tree, it looks like rain, don't like the face of the hangman, why not on Sunday, etc...
:)

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Sjhizny
By Sjhizny (1 month ago)

Spot on. I remember shooting with a Polaroid proof camera before setting my studio exposures. My pro dslrs from 7 years ago doesn't hold a candle to this camera. I think it's a matter of time, and perspective so many commentators muss here. I'm sorry but pressing a button 2x to check critical focus is not a deal breaker for me.

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papa natas
By papa natas (1 month ago)

I couldn't say it better.
:)

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FiveForm
By FiveForm (3 weeks ago)

Thanks for the departure from the world of micro-managing camera gear. Many of us are looking for the perfect gear, while after buying said equipment fail to spend adequate time actually taking photos. The equipment is treated like a trophy rather than a tool, AND the most flexible element in the tool bag is US, the user!

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papa natas
By papa natas (3 weeks ago)

Amen to that, Brother
:)

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kapeed1
By kapeed1 (1 month ago)

I love this camera sensor and PDAF. However I know Sony would focus on larger FE lenses than smaller ones optimized for APS-C. One thing I am longing for is the Sigma 18-35 mm f1.8 lens which neither Sigma will port to E-mount, nor Sony will deliver (though they could make it just like Sigma but smaller since flange distance is smaller for mirrorless). No E-mount lens roadmap is preventing me from buying this camera (along with absence of fast standard zooms - f1.8 fast). Instead I am considering Pentax with Sigma 18-35 f1.8 that is soon to have a Pentax port (then that lens will benefit from in body image stabilization as well ).

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

Which Pentax is that?

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kapeed1
By kapeed1 (1 month ago)

Pentax K-50. I know - sensor is not as good as this, but I want the 18-35 f1.8 lens (that does not have stabilization on it's own) on a stabilized body, so will have to settle for Pentax K-50. Still thinking about it though... thing is Sigma is really innovating in the lens space and has good value for money but they don't really have much of support for the E-mount.

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rYcio
By rYcio (1 month ago)

This morning, Sony shop in Lodz (Manufaktura) Poland. I wanted to check handling of this camera but salesman didn't want to disconnect it from alarm system. SONY is it OK?!

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jeremyclarke
By jeremyclarke (1 month ago)

This might strike some people as a dumb complaint but IMHO it's very real. I tried the NEX 6 several times in the Sony store while it was attached to the alarm system, and when I finally brought one home I found the handling surprisingly different in ways that would have been valuable to know beforehand.

The alarm system also blocked the SD card port which was a bigger problem for me, since it stopped me from actually taking some pictures to look at later in Aperture, which would have alerted me to the fact that the RAW files have terrible vignetting with the kit lens at 16mm unless you use Lightroom which automatically "corrects" the image.

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nicholasC
By nicholasC (1 month ago)

Just got this camera yesterday and just love it..IQ is fantastic and why people hates the EVF? Its just perfect!

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Sjhizny
By Sjhizny (1 month ago)

Because people don't understand the difference in optics versus resolution and refresh rate

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nicholasC
By nicholasC (1 month ago)

Just doubting people who always talk about this is not how dslr should be, they should have the conventional viewfinder ,conventional mounting capabilities,conventional controls..Its all about innovation..How are we going to move forward without these new innovations..Thats the reason Sony are moving forward now and cant believe there are still people looking backwards, not willing to step up..

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Random Photographer
By Random Photographer (1 month ago)

Because they think MOAR resolution = MOAR better, disregarding any other factor. And yes, they are as annoying as the spelling.

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Black Box
By Black Box (1 month ago)

It's a great camera, but the choice of lenses is still poor. Sony promises to make more, but honestly, who can guarantee they won't close this line in a year hanging their consumers dry. It happened before with so many other great ideas from Sony.

So... maybe in 10 years when they show at least SOME consistency.

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Andrew Wiggin
By Andrew Wiggin (1 month ago)

I don't recall seeing so much innovation by one company through so little time. They keep churning unexpected goodies at inexhaustible rate, and not even solely professionals oriented.
Makes me really curious about what they come up with next...

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Black Box
By Black Box (1 month ago)

And how many of those innovations lasted more than 3 years? SLT who?

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Mike Brooks
By Mike Brooks (1 month ago)

Sorry to ask what may be a dumb question, but the reference to IQ ... is it image quality or something else? If the answer is yes that I assume that this is a direct result of the better sensor?
I was given an A5000 just last week and am debating taking it back and "upgrading" to the A6000. From the reviews it appears that this model is improved in several respects and I am inclined to do this. Am I right?
(I am new to this category having used both 35mm SLR models (less and less these days) and the Canon S95 for point and shoot for most photos).
Thanks,

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

Yes, image quality. Personally, I would upgrade given your situation.

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jeremyclarke
By jeremyclarke (1 month ago)

a5000 should be almost as good, and you would probably be hard-pressed to even spot a difference between photos taken side by side with both cameras.

The main reason you should consider upgrading is if you want/need an EVF, otherwise enjoy your camera, work on your skills (the real difference!) and wait for the next generation.

Invest in lenses for a much more relevant IQ increase.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

AF is completely different between the two models. There are 0 phase detection sensors on the a5000 versus 179 on the a6000.

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jeremyclarke
By jeremyclarke (1 month ago)

Fair enough DPJoe2, though again the OP might be hard pressed to actually notice that AF difference in normal usage. If he finds AF a huge problem then it would make sense to upgrade.

All he mentioned was IQ though and in that department there probably isn't much to gain from the upgrade. Both have plenty of MP and the sensor quality that made Sony, Nikon, Apple and Fuji famous ;)

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

Agreed!

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dual12
By dual12 (1 month ago)

Another gadget from Sony. Gadgety controls, no charger, noisy as all get out, and a poor quality lens. Typical Sony. Sony makes great sensors, but they have no idea what to do with them.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

Yes, all camera makers ship less than optimal kit lenses, if they include one at all. This one is available without a lens. I agree with you, Sony makes great sensors. No ifs, ands, or buts, this is one of them, in my direct comparison of it to the one in my D800 shot for shot. Odd, mine included a charger. I suggest you return yours, and demand a fresh package. And I love the WHYSIWYG aspects of the EVF. Imagine, seeing what you get before you press the shutter button, and after in the EVF in any light. Unlike my D800 where you can't see squat on the screen even in mild daylight. And I'm delighted Sony included that gadgety 11fps feature found in the likes of the D4S and 1Dx, but not on my D800. I partially agree with you about the controls: Some of the time I hate it, that few lenses have aperture rings on them anymore. You know, like the Schneider f 5.6, 210mm for my Lenhof 4x5, or the 105mm f2.4 for my Pentax 6x7. So thanks dual12 for reminding me of all the things I love.

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Sjhizny
By Sjhizny (1 month ago)

Do you actually own this camera? Or is your comment based solely on this review? What does gadgety mean to you? Lack of direct dials? Not like some camera you used before and expect this to be like?

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dual12
By dual12 (1 month ago)

LOL...why would I own it? It's a gadget, not a camera.

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jeremyclarke
By jeremyclarke (1 month ago)

@DPJoe2: To their credit Fuji has a good kit lens, leaps and bounds better than the one that comes with NEX cameras, though also bigger/heavier and of course the Fuji cameras can't compete with Sony in many other aspects (AF and other "gadgety" features, which are extremely important!).

Of course dual12 is a troll so there you go.

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dual12
By dual12 (1 month ago)

No troll, but I know a gadget when I see one. The first digital camera I bought was a Sony 707 that dppreview praised. Huge mistake. Piece of junk. Sony hasn't changed much since.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

@Jeremy, thanks for pointing that out. And actually, I wanted the change my 'Yes, all' to 'Yes, many', but I was timed out and couldn't.

@dual12, I understand your position given your past experience. I have a similar position regarding my Mazda RX3, of 1973. It was Motor Trend's Car of the Year. It was crap. I called it Hiroshima's revenge. And I will never own another Mazda under ANY circumstances. Period. Full stop. And I will never read another word printed by Motor Trend. Ah..., that felt good. dual12, I won't try to change your opinion of the a6000, and if you were right, I would agree with you.

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Chanex
By Chanex (1 month ago)

Take it from someone who actual owns the camera (like me for example) - It's a great camera, albeit not with the kit lens.

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vadims
By vadims (1 month ago)

> No troll, but I know a gadget when I see one.

Well... I know a troll when I see one.

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gLOWx
By gLOWx (1 month ago)

@Sergey Borachev : Nice point.
A lot of ppl forget lens/body balance...and grip.
M43 is the best real alternative to DSLR (to me), until SONY stop making "high end point and shoot" and put some REAL controls and grip...and so create a bulky camera again :D
There is a conflict using a BIG APS-C sensor (i don't even speak about their A7 FF sensor) and trying to make a SMALL camera. It is not related to SONY only. You gain mirror, yes. But it is not enough to reduce bulk...because there is a lens. Same size on any APS-C sensor, DSLR or not.
This conflict create compromises on controls, grip, weight balance and more.
Even if they create a postcard sized FF camera...where do you put your lens ?
No point.
Olympus/Panasonic gone the smaller sensor way, to keep ALL things smaller, and so more balanced.
Sensors becoming better, i already see professionals using M43 instead of DSLR.
Not the best IQ ? May be...but enough to do the job with enough controls ;)

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whoiscathy
By whoiscathy (1 month ago)

I've been shooting Nikon DSLRs until now and have a nice prime lens collection from 20/1.8 to 200/4, all Nikkor, except the 20m which is Sigma. You are SO right with the APS-C size sensor and the lenses it actually requires to bring out the max it can deliver... I got the Sony kit because I'm heading to Iceland by bike so I needed a quality camera with good image AND video quality but at the same time something more portable than my full Nikon system.

And then here I am, happy but a little bit in doubt -- I realized in the first 20 minutes that I hated the kit lens (probably no surprise, after my primes...). So I got the Sigma 19/2.8 with the E-mount (which is already much bulkier than the kit lens!) and that lens is pretty much stuck on the A6000 now, plus I got myself a Nikon AI-S --> Sony E adapter so that I can use the 35/1.4, 50/1.2, 80/1.8 and so on, without having to buy the same lenses now with Sony E-mount. Most of my lenses are manual anyway so it's OK. Cont'd--->

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whoiscathy
By whoiscathy (1 month ago)

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I'll probably leave to Iceland with the Sigma 19/2.8, the Nikon 35 and 85mm lenses, probably also the 200/4, and the adapter. However, the whole setup has become very lens-heavy, no matter which Nikon lens I stick on it. BUT I'm getting amazing, amazing IQ. But that's because I have some serious fast glass. Impressive, the Nikon 35/1.4 AI-S and the A6000 combo.

No regrets, but I think I should have considered the Fuji/Oly/Pana line as well, for real portability.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

Cathy, I'm jealous, I only get to go to the beach. May I suggest you check out the Metabones adaptor. It's almost magic, your FF lenses will still be their usual focal length no crop factor, Sharpness will increase, and you will gain 1 stop. It was designed by world's best lens designer. LensRentals has a complete write up about it. APS-C sensor, with FF coverage.

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whoiscathy
By whoiscathy (1 month ago)

Very interesting. I try not to use adapters with a glass element, but now I've read up on this thing. I would totally try this if I were in the US (to rent or something, before actually spending $429 for the Nikon version) but I'm not in the US. The price is a bit steep, especially with the - guaranteed - import taxes. Pity :(

But now I don't mind that I kept those primes. When I bought the A6000 kit, and especially before, I thought I'd sell everything and restart. But it would be emotionally hard to part with the 35/1.4 and 50/1.2 so I waited out. I haven't sold anything yet.

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whoiscathy
By whoiscathy (1 month ago)

Oh *****. After many, many hours of reading up and watching sample videos, and trying my 20mm Sigma on my old F4 again... I'm afraid I must get my hands on that adapter.

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Sergey Borachev
By Sergey Borachev (1 month ago)

Same problem as the NEX-6, no difference, even though this camera is better featured in many ways. It is really good if you do not need other lenses or if you are happy with ordinary IQ from the kit lens. Once you start getting more than 1 lens for it, and only the expensive Zeiss etc are really good, then many equations change. The value of the system is then questionable when compared to Fuji or M43 cameras. The handling becomes an issue too as those quality lenses available for it, besides far and few between compared to other brands, are big and heavy for the small camera. A Fuji system would be more balanced as the lens and body size and weight are better chosen. So is a M43 system, which would be smaller, better balanced but has a slightly smaller sensor. Sony might as well make this a fixed lens camera and drop the price another $100, as it is mainly good or worth buying for use with only its kit zoom lens. Or, make bigger and higher-end bodies with more controls

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jeremyclarke
By jeremyclarke (1 month ago)

Have to agree. The kit lens on NEX 6 was awful (especially if you don't use Lightroom, in which case the uncorrected vignetting at 16mm is an embarrassment to the Sony name) so if you want to use either of these cameras to their full potential (which is enormous) you need to immediately buy some new glass and oh look, the choices are expensive and not particularly wonderful or diverse. Really affects their starting value compared to a Fuji with its fast, high-quality kit lens even though the starting price is higher. I mean, even if you get other Fuji lenses later, the kit remains a fabulous 18mm f/2.8 that is hard to beat without spending thousands.

If you just want a sharp, fast camera with all the features you can think of and don't care about/can wait for true image quality then these Sony's are a fabulous deal, especially with the reduced pricing on the a6000.

Comparing to MFT is a bit less fruitful since the sensors have such different properties. Good luck replicating bokeh ;)

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Digital Imaging Technician

I would buy this if I could get a 35mm equivalent lens with AF that isn't the size of Alaska (read: SEL24F18Z). It's a clue to me that they still don't have such a lens in their lineup.

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gLOWx
By gLOWx (1 month ago)

I never bought a SONY for several reasons.
But the main one is : CONTROLS !

SONY mirrorless cameras create amazing IQ...but crappy shooting experience.
Thats' why i bought an XZ-2 instead of an RX-100 v1.
RX-100 IQ was better, but it was not enough to me to justify choice.

I'm not going to buy any SONY camera until they understand how to improve SHOOTING experience.

Because IQ and features are one thing.
A pleasing camera to use without sub menu crawling is another.

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Raist3d
By Raist3d (1 month ago)

You should check this amera then because that's one of the big improvements Sony did- shooting experience.

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gLOWx
By gLOWx (1 month ago)

So i will try thanks ;)
Even if on product photos, i don't see anything ground breaking :D

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Raist3d
By Raist3d (1 month ago)

Product photos don't tell the story. There's a sea of difference between previous Nex shooting experience and this one. I never cared for the Nex.

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Kodachrome200
By Kodachrome200 (1 month ago)

"Specifying an autofocus point can be cumbersome"

This drives me crazy why are small cameras like this. There are only 3 primary controls on a camera why cant camera designers act like they are the ones that matter. a thousand buttons on camera and it takes multiple button pushes to access something like focus.

ruins a perfectly good camera

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jeremyclarke
By jeremyclarke (1 month ago)

It's mesmerizingly wrong that Sony still hasn't added touchscreens to their EVF cameras. They immediately solve so many focus point issues, and Sony even uses them on the lower-end NEX-range cameras.

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Kodachrome200
By Kodachrome200 (1 month ago)

a d pad would be fine too. but i need to be able to work this on the fly

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jeremyclarke
By jeremyclarke (1 month ago)

FWIW Fuji fails pretty badly at this too. Any attempts to mix AF point selection with focus-zoom, back-button AF or any button other than shutter result in senseless need to "exit" af point selection before proceeding. You also can't move the focus point while zoomed in for focus-check which is maddening.

Still like the focus-zoom better than DMF on the NEX 6 though, not sure if they improved that system in the a6000 but it was just barely function on NEX 6.

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Kodachrome200
By Kodachrome200 (1 month ago)

and people wonder why i wont leave my dslr

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

Well, I hadn't been wondering, but now I am, because I am considering leaving my DSLR. Please provide us a detailed answer. Thanks. I have Panasonic G3, that produces great results with the Leica 25mm, but which I don't like using, and now the a6000 which I do.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

One way to deal with this is to assign the selection function to the center button. This gives you instant access and your thumb is already on the four-way.

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Kakariki
By Kakariki (1 month ago)

Hi, I am split between the a6000 and the fuji x-t1. The IQ of the a6000 seems to be a bit better with a decent lens but the weather-sealed body of the x-t1 is quite tempting. I want to take my camera on longer hiking trips in any weather conditions - below freezing, in heavy rain and sweet sunshine. I would be certainly careful with using any camera in bad weather conditions but even when you are careful you can't keep your gear 100% dry when your hands are wet or heavy fog precipitates (i try to avoid falling into rivers these days).
Has anybody got some experience with the performance and durability of the a6000 in somewhat rougher conditions?
Any comments much appreciated, thanks!

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DtEW
By DtEW (1 month ago)

Can't speak to the A6000 (too new, and my usage of this system is different these days*), but I used to use the NEX-5N (an A6000 predecessor) as my primary camera in all conditions except pouring rain (what's to shoot in pouring rain?). This included a canyoneering trip down Tenaya Canyon (dry-bagged the camera when we had to rap into water), lots of shooting in snow/snowing/windblown snow conditions in Tahoe, and lots more urbex (dust, animal fecal matter, industrial waste). The camera survived unscathed, although I was as careful as was reasonable (i.e. wiping down the camera, not rinsing it off).

* - My E-mount system usage has been shifted to casual/social/tourism photography after I invested in a full-frame Canon system. The Canon system is weather-sealed, and it is the primary camera system I use for more adventurous/challenging activities... and those are the photos I might only ever shoot once, so hence maximal IQ.

(continued)

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DtEW
By DtEW (1 month ago)

(continued)

Nevertheless, the care with which I use the Canon system remains the same, as "weather-sealed" is not weather-proofing, and there are lots of testimonials of people destroying their "weather-sealed" cameras with seemingly normal "weather". Therefore I regard "weather-sealing" as not something that expands the performance envelope, but rather just a better insurance policy.

Remember, you don't hear about a lot of the cases in which people who dunk their "weather-sealed" camera in a stream to clean it, only to find that it doesn't work right anymore. The nature of testimonials is that people will more likely post about their enviable successes, and not so much their over-ambitous failures.

I think this approach might benefit your consideration: weather sealing is desireable as an added insurance policy. But it is not the be-all, end-all. Neither is the lack of it.

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Kakariki
By Kakariki (1 month ago)

thanks for your thorough comments, DtEW! the "added insurance policy" resonates with me (and your view on product testimonials in general).
i would probably consider FF myself if i were not looking for a reasonable light and smallish system with a few more photographic options and better IQ than a P&S (my pack is usually already full and heavy without the camera gear :-)
I owned a 1000D for the last 6 years and it survived most of the abuse. if not much lighter i would like something a bit smaller.

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BPD7
By BPD7 (1 month ago)

I just purchased this with some special promotions on Amazon. I really wanted the Fujifilm XT-1 but I know this camera is really amazing too. Such a hard decision. Should I cancel my a6000 and get the XT-1?

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Richard Schumer
By Richard Schumer (1 month ago)

It depends on what, if any, lenses you might want to add now or later; now, there seem to be more lenses available for the Fuji mount than Sony's. This, however, may change in the future.

If the kit zoom will fit your needs, you're golden. Have fun with your new camera!

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

Stick with your decision. Get the camera, put it through its paces, see how its features meet your needs. Then, if your dissatisfied, send it back. You have 30 days to give it a hands on, rather than looking a specs.

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BPD7
By BPD7 (1 month ago)

Thanks guys. I got the kit lens, the 50mm and the 55-210 zoom because of all the promotions, total $1056. My only concern is lack of macro capability with these lens. Yarnim I was thinking the same thing, use this for a bit and see how the results work for me. I was hoping to get the X-T1 but this sale came around and it was too tempting!

Thanks again!

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Bueche
By Bueche (1 month ago)

No you should not cancel your a6000, because it's a superior camera when it comes to iq (compared to the x-t1).

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dual12
By dual12 (1 month ago)

If you like noisy images at higher isos, get the Sony. It's horrible.

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BPD7
By BPD7 (1 month ago)

I canceled the a6000 purchased. In the end I didn't like Sony's lineup of lenses. I like the Fuji's. I wanted a solid camera with good controls, which the X-T1 has. I have the x100s now and I love it. Thanks everyone.

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Bueche
By Bueche (1 month ago)

If you like smeared details, horrible rendering of fine foliage/greenery, unrealistic colors and surreal looking images, WAY to dark shadows, cooked raw files, pretty bad DR, get the x-t1.

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dual12
By dual12 (1 month ago)

If you like gadgets, get the Sony. It's a gadget, not a camera.

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kellydunwoody
By kellydunwoody (1 month ago)

I got the a6000 and like it. I'm not a professional; I usually take pictures of my kid and its focus speed on moving subjects and fast burst speed are impressive. I had to buy three cameras and return 2 because truly there's no way to really test without getting your hands on them. I don't know if I can plug a store but my local "best butt" store was great and offered returns w/in 15 days w/no restocking fee. At the time the price was comparable to amazon but no amazing sale.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

@dual12, Since you admit you never owned this camera, your opinion is meaningless.

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MikeReidDesign
By MikeReidDesign (1 month ago)

Oh yes this is a great Camera for that price and with all the features that it offers. I see Cameras with less quality costing more.

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Yarnim
By Yarnim (1 month ago)

Somewhat late to the party I guess, but guys, a question from a relative newbie.

Just ordered A6000 so waiting for it in the mail, but would it make sense at all to get this and the B&H Zeiss 12&32 lens combo?

One of the strongest aspects of the A6000 is its amazing focus speed, but apparently, neither of those lenses even offer PDAF and their focus mechanism kinda sux with a huge, unpleasant focusing motor noise and slow focusing.

I do get that their optics are pretty good, but not much ahead compared to Sony's SEL1018 for the 12mm zeiss, and the 32mm not very much compared to sigma 30mm.

Any thoughts, advises? TIA!

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40daystogo
By 40daystogo (1 month ago)

I only have the SEL1018, so I can't compare. But you can check out test results at www.photozone.de and www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare.

http://www.photozone.de/sony_nex/829-sony1018f4oss

You can consider how much the lens stabilisation of the 10-18 helps compensate for its supposed lesser image quality.

The tests from several websites indicate that 5.6 is the optimum aperture, and I use Aperture-Priority to shoot at that aperture. I'm very pleased with the sharpness.

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Thomasthetank
By Thomasthetank (1 month ago)

I opted for the sel3518 instead, and i am not disappointed.
performs fantastically... OSS, nice bokeh, uses PDAF.
Win win win.

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nofumble
By nofumble (1 month ago)

Does lens have anything to do with PDAF?

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Yarnim
By Yarnim (1 month ago)

Yes nofumble, it does.

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Thomasthetank
By Thomasthetank (1 month ago)

Some lenses only support contrast detection... I believe this Zeiss lenses fall into this category.

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FodgeandDurn
By FodgeandDurn (1 month ago)

Dear Sony

Release a camera like this with better build quality (at least up to the previous standard of the NEX-6 and 7), better (larger) EVF, and a touch-screen, and a level gauge (which I cannot live happily without, sorry) and I'll turn in my NEX-6 and give you $800-1000.

I don't want an A7 (which I know you'd love me to upgrade to - part of the reason the A6000 is now pitching lower in the market) because my 6 APS-C lenses can't make the jump, but I don't want an A6000 because it has a few compromises too many and I'm not here to count pennies.

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DVT80111
By DVT80111 (1 month ago)

Very good camera specs at very good price. I just ordered the Zeiss 2 lens combo for my Fuji X-E1, and at a moment I am thinking to dump the Fuji system and go for A6000.

Just only one thing that hold me back.. the EVF. Sony..why?

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Fish Tank
By Fish Tank (1 month ago)

Haven't checked to se if the a6000 has all the same EVF features as my a77, but after using EVF, I can't imagine going back to OVF. With EVF you get what you see, so NO exposure or colour temp surprises, unless you are in a studio scenario - but the preview mode can be turned off in options. I love being able to colour/temp-pick on the fly with the joystick while adjusting exposure and see exactly how the shot will turn out. Coupled with having a digital level, ALL your readings/settings on screen as-needed, and SONY's brilliant focus peaking (always impresses other photographers), it's a perfect choice.

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RichRMA
By RichRMA (1 month ago)

Certainly do better body-wise for $800.00. Olympus E-M10 is a much better built camera. Handle both, you'll see. Plastic bodies should be relegated to cameras in the sub-$600 range.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

The a6000 is $599. And it has a much larger sensor.

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RichRMA
By RichRMA (1 month ago)

Amazon ads are geared to the geographic location of the poster. Prices shown on their ads for Canada range from $799 to over $900.

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Rob Sims
By Rob Sims (1 month ago)

Handled both in the shop, and I felt the A6000 handled much better due to the larger grip, and rangefinder positioning of the EVF. The fact that RAW image quality is better, and that the Sony is cheaper than the Olympus is also pretty compelling.

IMHO 'feel' is just user preference, and should never be stated as fact. (eg. I don't have little hands, so will never be able to get along with the E-M5/E-M10).

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ACosmosis
By ACosmosis (1 month ago)

Lens used in the review is $1000, it's not the cheap kit lens, do the math.

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kellydunwoody
By kellydunwoody (1 month ago)

bought both a6000 and e-m10 and returned e-m10 because control dial quit working and would only do manual mode in less than 15 days. Could be a fluke. I also thought build quality "felt" better on the oly vs. the sony until that happened.

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cashewNut
By cashewNut (1 month ago)

Thinking of buying this camera paired with the Tamron 18-200 mm E-mount lens mainly for travel. I don't make a living out of photography but mainly for recreational/hobby. Is this combination any good? Sony also has their own 18-200 mm E-mount, is the Tamron equal if not superior to it? Kindly shoot me with pro or con feedback. Thanks, eh.

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Mike FL
By Mike FL (1 month ago)

Just a thought for using most of 3nd party lens in hi-speed/lowlight shooting, Sony has no "Built in Image stabilization", so does Tamron 18-200mm.

FWIW: In comparison, Oly OMD EM1 has "Built in Image stabilization" which can give you 5 stops advantage in hi-speed/lowlight shooting. Of course, m4/3 sensor may have 2 stops dis-advantage, but still...

BTW:
Most of Pany (not GM1), Oly, Pentax has "Built in Image stabilization".

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Mike FL
By Mike FL (1 month ago)

For less confusing, "hi-speed/lowlight shooting" should be read as"slower shutter speed"...

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cashewNut
By cashewNut (1 month ago)

mike FL, the Tamron 18-200 mm lens has the vibration compensation (VC) image stabilization type. But cheaper than the Sony lens. Thanks.

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Mike FL
By Mike FL (1 month ago)

cashewNut.

That's good.

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DVT80111
By DVT80111 (1 month ago)

with single lens, you are better off with the RX10

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Mike FL
By Mike FL (1 month ago)

RX10 is truly unique with no competition as a bridge camera. also it is "weather-sealed". The F2.8 lens is 1.5 stop fast in wide angle, and 2 stop fast in tele comparing to other F3.5-5.6 zoom lens.

RX10 is kind of expensive, but this is one camera for all conditions.

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MeaningOfLife
By MeaningOfLife (1 month ago)

The 18-200 is fairly big. If it is for travel, do consider if size will be an issue.

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jellyhat
By jellyhat (1 month ago)

I just bought one and it's pretty impressive so far. I had the 5N previously and that too is a great camera but the EVF alone makes it worth buying...

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ACosmosis
By ACosmosis (1 month ago)

The A6000 photos have been taken with a $1000 Zeiss lens. So keep that in mind when you compare the results, $1600 total equipment value, not $800 (with the 18-55mm kit lens)
Don't be naive and think with for $800 you will get the same sharpness and ultimately so sharp ISO800 as with the $1000 lens.

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Bobby006
By Bobby006 (1 month ago)

I really don't understand the reason why they didn't use the kit lenses. It would be more useful to compare with other cameras. And it is the option most of the buyer of this camera would have. Not many people would pay $1000 for lens used in these photos.

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ACosmosis
By ACosmosis (1 month ago)

I am not sure if anybody noticed what lens was used in the test since the photos of the camera are showing the very cheap kit lens and there is not photo of the camera with the high-end prime lens in the review.

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Sjhizny
By Sjhizny (1 month ago)

after reviewing with the studio image comparisons, I'm quite glad i opted for the a6000 over the xt-1. i also greatly prefer the side mounted evf to save some proboscis smushing. :-)

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ACosmosis
By ACosmosis (1 month ago)

You will have to pay $1000 for the lens used in the review, it is not the cheap kit lens, but the Sony FE 55mm F1.8 ZA Carl Zeiss Sonnar T*

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tecnoworld
By tecnoworld (1 month ago)

I also much prefer the rangefinder form over the SLR/DSLR one. I think it's the perfect shape for mirrorless cameras, saving space and allowing for nice EVF placement.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

I can't find the lock out option to prevent the camera from taking a shot when there is no memory card in the camera. Yes, I am brain dead and old. Yesterday I took about 5 shots of my sister-in-law. Then, last night I went to import them into LR. Surprise, no card in the camera. How dumb. Help!

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DtEW
By DtEW (1 month ago)

I just utilize the policy that I don't close the battery/card bay hatch unless I have a card in there.

The policy has a dual effect:

1) It indicates at-a-glance that you don't have a card in the camera.

2) If leaving the hatch open bothers you (it does for me), it incentivizes you to transfer your stuff quickly, and return the card to the bay quickly so that you can close the hatch.

This policy also addresses the brain fart of running out somewhere with the camera without a bag (which is presumably where you might keep an extra card). The electronic lock-out you are seeking will do nothing for you (aside from thwarting you early) when you don't have a card somewhere on you, right?

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woz
By woz (1 month ago)

Interesting question, I looked at the manual and can find no reference to this and no obvious answer as to how you would prevent shooting. It does raise the questions:-
1. What would happen if you put a card with a record lockout on in the slot (and I wonder which cameras have a record lockout card sensor)
2.Why there was no warning that the shot(s) would not be saved as no storage was present. (I assume there was not?)
3. What would happen with a full card?
It will be academic for you now, having done that once you'll probably always have a card in.
Good luck with your new camera..

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

Hey Guys, Thanks for your responses. And I think I will adopt your door open policy DtEW. Well woz, continuing to be old, I just for the 1st time looked to see if there was anything in the display about the card. Sure enough, bilking in yellow in the top left it says, and I quote "NO CARD". So how hell did I miss it? Yeah, getting old is not for wimps. So having no good alternatives available, I'll just suck it up, and keep putting one foot in front of the other. Old, but not dead...yet. Getting by with a little help from my friends. Thanks again.

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lawamainn
By lawamainn (1 month ago)

Can`t wait to buy this camera!!!

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Robert Garcia NYC
By Robert Garcia NYC (1 month ago)

I think Sony has finally caught up with color looks really good.

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Michael Ma
By Michael Ma (1 month ago)

I wonder how much longer are they gonna keep milking full frame at over $1k.

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Robert Garcia NYC
By Robert Garcia NYC (1 month ago)

won't be long rumor has it they are going to announce a really cheap FF.

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JEROME NOLAS
By JEROME NOLAS (1 month ago)

So far the best Sony yet, one day when you can buy a decent lens for decent money, I might consider this product...

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quezra
By quezra (1 month ago)

The Sigma primes are super and dirt cheap. The 35 and 50 f1.8 primes are also good and in the affordable range. What are you after?

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jojolapin
By jojolapin (1 month ago)

Could Sony make an alpha 6000 with big photosites like the announced alpha 7s? 12MP, body and features of alpha 6000, high ISO. That would be my perfect pick.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (1 month ago)

Even using the same filterless sensor the K5IIs uses would be a great compromise between the A7s sensor and what it currently uses. 14stops DR in raw and excellent high ISO characteristics, with improved detail rendering at 16mp would make plenty of people happy, I'd think.

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MeaningOfLife
By MeaningOfLife (1 month ago)

12MP at APSC size isn't attractive. The nex6 is already 16MP and dropping to 12MP won't make that much of a difference.

But if you are talking about full frame size sensor, then 12MP may be attractive... But I still doubt many will buy it if it is over $1k for a 12MP camera.

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DPJoe2
By DPJoe2 (1 month ago)

The a6000's metering appears to be superior to the metering of a D800. I went down to the beach and shot cranes sitting on the rail of a long pier waiting for hand outs from fishermen. The cranes' colors were dark brown. Shooting about 25 degrees from the Sun and at about 45 degrees up into a perfectly clear blue sky, focusing was instant, and locked onto the bird with three green boxes down the bird vertically. The exposure was absolutely perfect. That even though the bird was only 10% of the frame against a blastingly bright sky. Sky blown out? No, it too was perfectly exposed, a solid blue. The purpose of this outing was to specifically test the auto exposure and in-camera processing capabilities. The result was all exposures in daylight at the beach were perfect. Could I have gotten this result with my D800? Yes, but of course the D800 would have required a small amount of post processing in LR for the sky after I determined the correct exposure for the birds. Sony wins this round.

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mremonen
By mremonen (1 month ago)

Sony NEX'es (or Alphas as they are today) tend to underexpose 2/3 EV. Or that has been my expreience with NEX-5N, NEX-6 and now with Alpha 6000. This can be easily verified from RAW-histogram using e.g. RawDigger.

That may be the reason why the exposure was dead-on in your example.

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Mike FL
By Mike FL (1 month ago)

From what I can see, the a6000 has more noise than most, if not all, of Fuji APS-C cameras, I guess that one of the reason is a6000 has too many megapixels.

IMHO: It is always the problem for most of Sony; too many megapixels.

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BarnET
By BarnET (1 month ago)

If you look at pixel level there is more noise. if you look at the same magnification as the other Apsc sensors you will see that it has about the same performance as the best.

This of course excludes the SLT's which bounce 1/3 stop of light away at all times.

Still i think your right about too many pixels. It offers some extra sharpness but for me it's not worth the extra time importing and exporting the files.

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brendon1000
By brendon1000 (1 month ago)

Not really. Its a myth that greater pixels must also mean more noise. The A6000 measures better than the earlier Sony 16 MP NEX6 in noise.

http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Sony-A6000-sensor-review-Little-wonder/Sony-A6000-versus-Sony-NEX-6-versus-Sony-NEX-7-Incremental-Improvement

The Fuji's have exceptional noise performance but not everyone likes the Fuji colors.

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BarnET
By BarnET (1 month ago)

Fujifilm overates their iso values. There for iso 400 isn't really 400. it's more or less 250 when look at the exposures side by side.

Then they use another colour filter that has a larger pattern. This pattern is less efficient in terms of resolution but does kill of moiré and alliassing.

that means you don't need a olpf which increases resolution again.

Still in the end they perform very very well. It's just not as good as it looks in the first glance.

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