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Nikon D610 Review

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Just a year after the arrival of Nikon's full-frame D600 in the fall of 2012, its replacement arrived in 2013. The D610 is the exact same as the D600 but with a new shutter mechanism that boosts continuous shooting and adds a 'Quiet Continuous' mode. The only other upgrade is an improved auto white balance system.

The D600 is an excellent DSLR, with top-notch photo quality, a well-built body and impressive movie recording capabilities. Unfortunately for Nikon, the D600 is probably best known for collecting oil on the sensor - an issue for which Nikon only initially issued a service advisory, without admitting the actual cause of the problem. Nikon only directly acknowledged the issue over four months after the launch of the D610, saying: 'Nikon has thoroughly evaluated these reports and has determined that these spots are caused by dust particles which may become visible when the camera is used in certain circumstances'. It's now offering D600 users free inspection, cleaning and replacement of the shutter assembly and related parts even if the warranty has expired.

Internet theorists have suggested the D610 was created to leave the troubles of the D600 behind. And the appearance of a new model so soon after the D600's launch, with almost no changes other than a new shutter mechanism, seems to give that theory some credence. However, given the company's reticence to discuss the problem with the D600, we haven't had absolute confirmation from Nikon that the oil issue has been 'officially' resolved.

With that out of the way, let's take a more in-depth look at the D610, and what's changed. The D610 shoots 6 fps, up from 5.5 fps on the D600. A new Quiet Continuous mode shoots at 3 fps and, as its name implies, makes less noise while doing so. Finally, the auto white balance system has been updated to produce more accurate color in artificial lighting, and more realistic skin tones.

Nikon D610 key features

  • 24.3MP Full-frame CMOS sensor (10.5MP DX-format crop mode)
  • ISO 100-6400 (expandable to ISO 50-25,600 equivalent)
  • Maximum 6 fps continuous shooting; new quiet continuous mode shoots at 3 fps
  • 39-point AF system with 9 cross-type AF points
  • Refined auto white balance system
  • Wireless flash control
  • 3.2in 921k-dot LCD screen
  • Dual SD memory card slots
  • 1080p30 full HD video
  • Uncompressed video recording via HDMI

As mentioned above, the D610 is literally the D600 with three new features (four if you count the new shutter mechanism). That's actually not a bad thing, as the D600 is a truly excellent full-frame camera, as you can see in our review.

The D600's 24.3MP FX-format CMOS sensor produced excellent JPEG image quality, and performed very well at high sensitivities. Its Raw files had an impressive amount of dynamic range, as well. The D610 performs just as well since the sensor and processor are unchanged from the D600. Some other things we enjoyed about the D600 that carries over to the D610 are its solid, weather-sealed magnesium alloy body, large optical viewfinder, responsive (and customizable) interface and high-end video specs.

There is little to complain about in the D610 since from our experience the reported oil issue seems to be fixed. Otherwise, just like the D600, we found fault with the D610's poor outdoor LCD visibility and some live view quirks (AF speeds and lack of a histogram). The point here is that the D610 offers all that made the D600 excellent, plus a few nice improvements.

Key specs compared

 
Nikon D610
Canon EOS 6D
Nikon D800
 Effective Pixels  • 24.3 MP • 20.2 MP • 36.3 MP
 ISO Range  • 100-6400 standard
 • 50-25600 expanded
• 100-25600 standard
• 50-102800 expanded
 • 100-6400 standard
 • 50-25600 expanded
 No of AF points  • 39 • 11 • 51
 Screen  • 3.2"
 • 921,000 dots
• 3"
• 1,040,000 dots
 • 3.2"
 • 921,000 dots
 Viewfinder • 100% coverage
• 0.7x magnification
• 97% coverage
• 0.71x magnification
 • 100% coverage
 • 0.7x magnification
 Built-in flash   •  Yes  • No  •  Yes
 Continuous drive  • 6 fps • 4.5 fps • 4 fps
 Storage  • SD
 • 2 slots
• SD  • SD and CF
 • 2 slots
 Weight
 (inc batteries)
 • 850g (1.87 lb) • 770g (1.7 lb)  • 1000g (1.98 lb)
 Dimensions • 141 x 113 x 82 mm
   (5.6 x 4.5 x 3.2")
• 145 x 111 x 71 mm
(5.7 x 4.4 x 2.8")

 • 146 x 123 x 82 mm
(5.8 x 4.8 x 3.2")

 Wi-Fi + GPS   •  Optional • Built-in •  Optional

Kit options and pricing

The D610 is available in different kits in different markets. The most widely-available kit includes the 24-85mm F3.5-4.5G ED VR standard zoom, which comes at a recommended price of $2599.95 / £2299.99 / €2499.

The US also sees the camera offered in a variety of kits with other lenses, and it's available body-only both there and in mainland Europe for an RRP of $1999.95 / £1799.99 / €1949.


If you're new to digital photography you may wish to read the Digital Photography Glossary before diving into this article (it may help you understand some of the terms used).

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12
D 503

Under specified and overpriced. The 7100 is better value.

8 upvotes
armandino

full frame affordable? They are different cameras, sorry. I personally would not compromise for a crop.

1 upvote
ChapelThrill23

You do realize that full frame and APS-C cameras are very different animals, right? The D610 is one of the cheapest FF cameras ever brought to market and offers better image quality than any APS-C camera ever made and image quality that could not be matched at any price just a few years ago. It isn't cheap in absolute terms but it is as good a value as you can find anywhere in FF cameras.

2 upvotes
Josh152

At base ISO the D7100 and D610 will have pretty much the same IQ. The two main difference between FF D610 sensor and crop D7100 sensor are that the D610 will have around 1 stop less noise for the same exposure and can achieve shallower DOF for the same focal length and aperture. The D610 will also have slightly better dynamic range and color depth too but not by enough to worry about most of the time.

When considering all the features of both cameras including the sensors I agree that the D7100 it the best bang for the buck and would say it is even the best bang for buck int he entire Nikon lineup and maybe even in the entire DSLR market.

1 upvote
PerL

@Josh
Every lens will perform better on the D610 than on the 1.5 crop of the D7100.

0 upvotes
cm71td

Forum Poster: "I'm outraged. You didn't review my favorite camera yet. How can you not review it first when it's clearly the best!"

Reviewer: "Uh... if you're already convinced that it's the best, why are you waiting for a review from us? Are you hoping that we will talk you out of buying it?" ;)

11 upvotes
AlexRuiz

This is awesome. Probably applies to 50% of the discussions around here.

2 upvotes
tallguy600

Built quality better than Canon 6D? I don't think so.
Example: My D600 fell down from low height, plastic front shell supporting the metal lens mount broke while the 6D comes with a magnesium alloy body shell in front...
To me having owned both D600 and now the 6D there is no question that the 6D is much better put together and every button feels more substantial.
D600/D610:
http://www.digitalreviewcanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Nikon-D600-vs-D800-SLR-camera-Mg-body-construction.jpg

6D:
http://cpn.canon-europe.com/files/education/technical/inside_the_canon_eos_6d/caption_007_new.jpg

6 upvotes
Just Ed

I have the same impression having owned a D600 and now a 6D (much better overall).

2 upvotes
Palex

Still plastic top cap on the 6D because of the GPS and Wifi...

0 upvotes
The Photo Ninja

Nikon lost me with the awful green screen and poor autofocus of the D800. I've switch to Canon and the 5D Mark III is a joy to use. I'd like a better sensor, but my images are in focus and the LCD is beautiful. Video on the 5D Mark III also is better than on Nikon.

9 upvotes
NJohnston

I own a D800 but am required to shoot with 5DmkIII all the time and, while I don't think "awful" really describes the screen or the AF, I don't disagree agree with you. After owning my D800 for almost two years, I've tweaked the settings, my production and my post production enough to get awesome results. The Canon is awesome out of the box.

2 upvotes
brycesteiner

The image quality does not have the detail of the new and much smaller Olympus or the Fuji cameras even up to high ISO's (to me 2000 is high ISO).

I'm trying to figure out why it got such a high score for fixing a severe problem that should not have been there to begin with.

After switching to mirrorless, I wouldn't go back. I was told I can't shoot fast action - bologna! The current generation, at least with Olympus, the screen is perfectly quick and the human eye is probably the slowest part of the chain. Guess what? Not dirt on the sensor either!

The megapixel race is moot now. Noise is too. They're all very good. Why not focus the other way and lets see real improvement in low ISO? How about mirrorless Nikon, Canon?

Sony is way ahead. That is where the high scores should be going to.

The big players are seriously lacking innovation over the last three years. Otherwise, there is no reason to buy new cameras, unless you need a new shutter without dust, dirt and oil.

5 upvotes
kadardr

In which regard is Sony ahead of competition? In which regard m43 is having better IQ than any FF?

8 upvotes
Henderson May

even m43 use a mechanical shutter, no dirt on sensor if you stick with your kit lens

3 upvotes
HFLM

Did you set JPG detail to fine? Did you shoot raw and compare? I have EM5, EM1 and D610 and although I love my Olympus its image quality is certainly not better than D610 (especially if you don't zoom to 100% as both cameras have different resolutions blowing up the picture differently).

1 upvote
AlexRuiz

Same as HFLM. I had an EM5 and have a D600. The IQ is much better in the D600. And above ISO 800 not even close.

0 upvotes
cm71td

Definition of "4/3's Truther": Someone who claims that there is a complicated conspiracy to hide the fact that "There is no difference in image quality between FF and Micro 4/3's".

2 upvotes
Just Ed

If you keep up with the articles here you would know that both Nikon and Canon execs stated that mirrorless does not seem to be as popular as expected with buyers in the U.S.

With that said, its good that companies like Fuji and Oly offer alternatives.

0 upvotes
NJohnston

In my my opinion, the real test is really with the operator and not the camera. I use Nikons. It's what I learned on and what I'm comfortable with. If I'm getting bad photos, it's probably not my camera.

Pictures not sharp enough? - it's probably my technique

AF can't track a top fuel dragster at warp speed? - my expectations may be unrealistic

WB not pleasing? - I shouldn't be shooting portraits next to a big window on a cloudy day with mixed florescent/tungsten lights and a speed light in the room.

Moire a problem? - If you can honestly answer "yes" to that question, go back to film and stay out of digital.

Dirt and oil on your sensor? - Get over it. Learn to clean your sensor.

My point - if you miss the moment, it doesn't matter how good your camera is, there'll be no picture. If you capture a memorable moment, it doesn't matter if you used your iPhone. So the best camera to have is definitely NOT the best camera, but rather a camera that you have on you and know how to use.

0 upvotes
CameraLabTester

The Nikon D600 and the D610 are both very good cameras.

But there will always be that speck of dust in one's mind...

.

12 upvotes
WillieG

And that's exactly where it was for most of the people complaining about dust: in their minds.

3 upvotes
RichRMA

The article seems bent on convincing people that the body on that thing is "tough" and capable instead of cramped and cost-cut relative to older DX top bodies.

3 upvotes
Jake64

If the D610 got the 51 point AF system; no one would buy the D800. FACT

6 upvotes
Richard Murdey

The D610 is a point update to the ill-fated D600 so I suppose all dpreview had to do was polish up the D600 review a little, but it was still a really good review that nails just about everything you need to know about these cameras:

- Incoming from a D700, you'll face some pain points.
- Live view recording still feels like a beta feature.
- Wifi and GPS are "plug in" extras when in 2014 they should be built in.
- The viewfinder rocks.

Overall if you aren't pro but want a really good dSLR, the D6x0 is a great choice, both in performance per dollar and performance per gram.

1 upvote
steelhead3

The view finder is very sub par compared the the competition.

1 upvote
kadardr

Which competition?

5 upvotes
JF69

Actually the VF is great, I can finally nail focus my Noct at ƒ1.2 (tiny DOF & field curvature makes t more difficult than other lenses) even in dim light……amazing!

0 upvotes
AlexRuiz

steelhead3, the VF is very good, particularly when compared against EVF's, which are still inferior.

0 upvotes
steven_k

I wonder why the Sony A7 does not have as good high ISO performance as compared to the D600/610 ???

1 upvote
ageha

Why should it? It's a Sony.

4 upvotes
naththo

Sony sensor have more sensitivity to low light than any other brand so the noise will be higher in high iso unfortunately. If you want lower noise in high iso you need sensor like Canon 5D MKIII or these current line up of Toshiba sensor. Also once again it got to do with their brand of image processing chipset engine inside on how it process JPEG and RAW file.

0 upvotes
neil holmes

To me, looking at the Queens head the Sony A7 has much more detail than the others at higher isos. A bit more noise yes, but more detail. The A7 is a good camera in low light and high isos. All the FF cameras in the comparison are.

0 upvotes
IndianCanuck

The review mentions kit lens as 25-85, should it not be corrected to 24-85? Plain ignorance or typo??? ;)

1 upvote
Jeff Keller

Where did you see this typo exactly?

0 upvotes
Simon Joinson

which do you think?

5 upvotes
Lucas_

IMHO it's outrageous to give a Gold Award and an 87% note to this camera and Silver with 80% to the fantastically innovative Sony A7 ( not to mention the A7R, which is clearly at another level and got Gold / 82%! ). It's about time DPR realizes that their reviews "conclusions" have actually become a joke! I can appreciate the level of camera features/controls details and specs they cover ( which IMO is the good value of the review ), but I've learned to just don't care at all about their final conclusions ( sometimes hilarious ) and rating!

18 upvotes
bluevellet

The D610 ready to take pictures while the A7 is still dozing after being turned on. It won't go blind if lighting gets less than ideal. It won't give up if subjects start moving around. It has a superior JPEG engine and it doesn't compress RAWs.

The D610 just works.

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29 upvotes
Revenant

What's so innovative about the A7/R? They're mirrorless FF cameras, with no new technologies that we haven't seen in other cameras.
Anyway, innovation in itself is not cause for a great review. A camera should be assessed based on usability, performance, build quality, value etc. A camera with no innovations could still be a great photographic tool, and therefore deserve a high review score, while an innovative camera could be a flawed photographic tool, and therefore deserve a lower score.
I'm not saying that the A7 has any major flaws, just that the fact that it's innovative (if that's the case) have nothing to do with whether it's a good camera or not.

10 upvotes
Summi Luchs

The A7/A7r are fantastically innovative but not necessarily better than DSLRs. These cameras have a size and weight advantage and a theoretical advantage for WA lens designs (but no real WA lenses (<=28mm) exist for these cameras). OTOH a DSLR is much more capable to capture the "decisive moment". The lags to the electronic displays and limited frame rates in mirrorless systems justify better overall ratings for DSLRs. So I can't say tat there is anything wrong with DPreview's ratings.

4 upvotes
Lucas_

I take it that all of you have already spent some time with the A7, right? If not, I'd advise you to do that and while you're at it, also try a 7R! Don't just rely on reviews and "nay sayers"..! As for lenses, that's a non-issue, you can also use most lenses you like from Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Leica, Contax, Voigtlander, etc, even Minolta and Sony...!

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5 upvotes
PerL

@Lucas
But most people wants AF-capable lenses. And if you look at MF lenses, there are millions of superb Nikkor AI/AIS lenses that works without the hassle of adapters on a D610 (and all other high end Nikon DSLRs).

8 upvotes
Fogsville

As the man says: LENSES.

3 upvotes
taktak91

@Lucas_
It shows you love your A7. That's fine; you should stand behind the cameras you purchased. But it doesn't mean everyone else have to equally love and rate the camera you love.

2 upvotes
DaddyG

Surprising that a camera that is based on a 2012 model is such highly rated. I thought ratings were relative to today's (2014) technology?
I'll be interested to see what the EOS 1200D gets, which is essentially a rebadged EOS 550D.

2 upvotes
Treeshade

Those who have already spent some time with the A7(R)... have really spent some time on... focusing. I know many people could take time for their shots, could manual focus, could process RAW, but for many people A7(R) failed to meet their minimum requirement. (no mater how light-weighted or high IQ)

4 upvotes
ChapelThrill23

I'd imagine that you are basing your opinions on extensive use of both cameras and not spec sheets.

0 upvotes
vagtanklan

I have the D610 now, and had the A7 before it.

I found the ergonomics flawed on the A7, and that it was almost impossible to use the rear rotary dial with gloves.

Great IQ, flawed ergonomics = deserved 80%

0 upvotes
FrankS009

Speaking of late reviews, what about the Panasonic G6? It was introduced a year ago, and has not had a full review yet. Perhaps DPR is waiting for its replacement.

The G6 weights half of the D610, has an articulated screen, and its lenses are half the size and weight too. There is a purpose for every camera, but the difference between full frame and micro-4/3rds IQ is getting small enough that for practical purposes most people don't need to spend the extra money or lug the extra weight. The revolution has truly taken place.

F.

7 upvotes
jcr4486

I was exactly thinking on the same !
Where is the G6 review ? I really miss that one.

5 upvotes
bobbarber

I own a G6. It's a great camera. It probably gives up a little to the OM-D models for stills, but it does great video. No enthusiasts got enthused about the G6, though... At least it feels that way. I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment that something like the G6 is all that most people need. I don't see how camera manufacture in general could go away from cameras like the G6, and towards cameras like the D610. It's only a matter of time. With cameras like the GH4 being introduced now, the DSLRs are treading water. DSLRs are great machines, and their run isn't over yet, but their momentum has definitely been slowed.

2 upvotes
BarnET

M43 image quality is close to apsc. The g6 is a bad example though. It uses the outdated gh2 sensor with it's standout feature disabled.

0 upvotes
Summi Luchs

No, there is a big difference between FF and m4/3. I have used (and still use) m4/3 and Nikon FF Cameras for years (currently a Pana GX7 and a D600). I agree that both systems can deliver very good image quality and for many subjects technical details do not play a big role (at that level of IQ). But those pictures, where image quality has a substantial part in the "WOW" factor were taken by the FF cameras. This is not due to a single parameter like high ISO noise or shallow DOF. Good lenses can easier show their qualities in bigger formats, a fact known since decades.

3 upvotes
bobbarber

@Summi Luchs

I don't think that anybody would quibble over there being a difference between m43 and FF IQ. But if you say it's a "big" difference, then people start to argue.

What does a "big" difference mean? To some people, there's a "big" difference between eating at McDonalds or Wendy's.

I think you might be in trouble if you tried to test of this "big" difference between m43 and FF. If you hung identically composed pictures and prints from both formats on a wall, and asked a hundred strangers to comment, I'm betting that most wouldn't see much of a difference at all, and of those who did see a difference, almost nobody would characterize it as "big". Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I see it.

Cheers.

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3 upvotes
white shadow

For those wanting a G6 review, go to cameralabs.com. It was out sometime ago and its not too bad. Covers most of the areas you may want to know.

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0 upvotes
ChapelThrill23

"There is a purpose for every camera, but the difference between full frame and micro-4/3rds IQ is getting small enough that for practical purposes most people don't need to spend the extra money or lug the extra weight. The revolution has truly taken place."

That is true for some uses but do not doubt just how useful the thinner depth of field can be for a lot of photographers. And do not underestimate the major advantages that you'll see at high isos in a good FF camera.

0 upvotes
vagtanklan

I got me a D3200 in addition to the D610 ... a much better option than buying into a new system.

0 upvotes
RichRMA

But the body is still second-rate.

5 upvotes
Summi Luchs

Don't forget that it is much cheaper than first rate bodies. Look at the price of Nikon D3/D4 or Canon 1D series cameras and try to adjust what to expect for much less money.

6 upvotes
DezM

Nice review. Works for me. I'm getting very good IQ with the D610. See shots #1 thru #27: http://www.dezsantana.com/night

5 upvotes
deepaksh

Outstanding pictures DezM. You quietly yet again proven the point that the camera is but a tool.

2 upvotes
Nukunukoo

While not a Pentax user, I do agree how DPR is bordering to WTF as to why they take to spend (and waste) a lot of time on Canikon even on extremely insignificant model upgrades and ignores celebrated cameras like Pentax K3 whose combination of features are quite unique and leading in its class.

Shame really, DPR, was there a change in management as to why many feedbacks from your user base seem to be falling on deaf ears?

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31 upvotes
amoebaman

My feelings exactly.

They missed the k-3 review for the holiday season, even yhough it tore up the user polls

Wtf

16 upvotes
justmeMN

What's "extremely insignificant" is Pentax's market share. :-) Why should DPR concentrate their limited review resources on brands that don't sell?

10 upvotes
AlexRuiz

The 5 Pentax users should get together and do their own review.

I for one only care about products that are widely available in the market place. Last year I was vacationing in Mexico and decided to buy an extra battery for my D600. Walked into an electronics store in Guadalajara Mexico, and YES they had them. Had I been a Pentax shooter, I would have been SOL. Just saying.

5 upvotes
Gesture

Should be reviewing cameras likely to be of interest, but also ones that advance the state of photography.

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8 upvotes
Richard Murdey

I'm not going to look up which was announced first, but reviewing the D610 is a much simpler task since the D600 review was already in the can. They pushed it out first, but I am quite confident a K-3 review is in the pipeline.

0 upvotes
Frank C.

Pentax is a marginal player and will be treated as such. Things will change once it makes it to one of the top 3 positions, if ever

1 upvote
Smitty1

It is a catch 22 as how does Pentax gain marketshare if they only receive minimal exposure in the media?

If the K-3 would have simply had a 'Canon' or 'Nikon' logo on the front, it would have received much fanfare on this site.

5 upvotes
Nukunukoo

This IS a Camera Review regardless of what kind of camera is out there. This should not have been a market share contest. Besides, the last poll DID show how popular that Pentax is. Thinking that popularity is insignificant against "market share" as a criteria when writing reviews would not only look stupid, it would look incompetent.

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7 upvotes
Heie2

>Had I been a Pentax shooter, I would have been SOL.

Many Pentax DSLR's are AA-battery compatible. Just sayin' ;)

@Nukunukoo - agree with everything you've said in this comment thread.

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4 upvotes
Revenant

Ideally, every camera should be reviewed, no matter what brand. However, given the limited manpower, and the fact that DPR spends many weeks using a camera before writing their very exhaustive reviews, they have to prioritize. Because many more people shoot with Canon or Nikon DSLRs than any other brand, then there are likely many more people who are interested in reading reviews of those brands. Unfortunately, there's no way of prioritizing in a way that's fair to all brands, other than flipping coins.

It's just not true, that DPR is ignoring the K-3, though, since they have repeatedly said that they are working on the review.

0 upvotes
Nukunukoo

@revenant... As opposed to writing a multi-page full review of the D610 that came out just recently? Prioritize? What exactly is the real significant difference between the D610/D600 beyond the bug fix? Try checking FStoppers and the other camera review sites that are now gaining traction over DPR and tell me if they are doing preferencial articles...

Sorry to say this but your rational for DPR's action is sounding more like an excuse than anything else.

5 upvotes
JustDavid

some of the laughably ignorant comments here are not worth a reply...
Imagine that Apple had to go through the same DPR prioritization years ago when Nokia ruled the world. iPhones etc would be dying breed...

1 upvote
AlexRuiz

JustDavid, the impact Apple had on the telecom industry was huge. It revolutionized the industry and built a infrastructure around it. While I am sure the K3 is a good camera, it is simply not a comparison you can make.

0 upvotes
Palex

I think we must be the happiest people in the world to have DPreview as a free guide.

0 upvotes
dpmaxwell

Based on the several comments here, there appears to be a HUGE business opportunity for someone to start a website reviewing Pentax cameras.

12 upvotes
Richard Murdey

You do realize that website exists already, right?

www._____forums.com

Take the pentax forum at dpreview and multiply the earnestness of the user base by one hundred and you'll have some idea what level of zealotry to expect there.

I'm half-kidding, it's actually a pretty good site. The lens user review database is particularly useful. You just have to go in accepting that its its a fan site.

0 upvotes
Eric Calabros

thats actually how internet hype works: few speak for many, and make the wave keep resonating

0 upvotes
turvyT

Unbelievable. I am just stating this from a neutral point of view, and after a huge waiting exercise. Will Dpreview explain some day why, after all this time, there is still no Pentax k3 review? Of course Dpreview has all the right to review whatever they want, but the lack of a review of a camera in which many people are or have been interested shows signs of the existence of some agenda which is all but transparent. Does Dpreview favor some brands over others? Not a nice thought, at least for me.

3 upvotes
Richard Butler

Simon and I have tried to explain why it's taken so long: we can't review all cameras at the same time, so inevitably some will get reviewed before others. That decision is based on a number of factors, including levels of reader interest, how quickly we can write the review, but not which brand it is.

Several reviews have taken longer than planned (something we're trying to avoid, in future), but that has delayed the K-3. I am currently working on the camera.

11 upvotes
PicOne

Richard,
Your last camera review was in January. Is the K3 that complex? I have heard it has a lot of built in functionality and customization capability, but something has to give on timing vs. thoroughness.. IMO.

0 upvotes
Richard Butler

@PicOne - Actually my last review was the Fujifilm X-E2 published last week.

I spend a lot of time thinking about timing vs thoroughness and am trying to prepare a K-3 review that's both through and as prompt as possible.

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2 upvotes
steelhead3

As a fuji shooter Richard, I noticed your review came out before the the K3

0 upvotes
turvyT

Thanks, Richard, for your answer. Still, don't quite get it. I would hope that Dpreview cared for any interesting camera out in the market, regardless considerations as general public interest. General interest is many times generated by good critics and criticism.

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0 upvotes
MiraShootsNikon

Count me among the (hopefully many) readers who find it absurd to see this review appear before one for the Pentax K3.

What's more: a full 13-page write-up on the D610 provokes the wonders of hindsight, reminding us to see DPReview's high score and "Gold Award" for the D600 through the lens of Nikon's recent "sensor dust" acknowledgement, service recall, and various legal class actions pursuing the company's behavior following the D600 launch.

I get that Amazon owns DPReview, and that you log into the "Gear Shop" to participate. But at the same time, the folks who write these reviews respond to comments like mine with defenses of "editorial credibility."

Well DPReview, if you want "editorial credibility," don't give "gold awards" to $2K cameras with recall-worthy quality flaws. And instead of 13-page write ups for high-volume incremental warm-overs, let's hear about lower-volume but truly new stuff, like the K3. Stop telling us you aren't ruled by the Amazon "Gear Shop." Show us.

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Richard Butler

There are two issues here and I'd like to address both:

We were one of the first sites to report the dust/oil issue in the D600 review. But weren't able to fully assess its severity because you can't test the long-term impact in the short term. Our understanding was that it was something that got better with use (and a clean), so wouldn't be a long-term problem - we can only review based on our experience. Without knowing more about how significant the problem has been for typical users, I can't be sure whether we should have given the D600 a Gold, but it seemed reasonable at the time.

The second is that we wanted someone familiar with the Pentax system to review the K-3, given its complexity.

The point is that we have only a limited number of reviewers and a limited amount of time. I am in the process of reviewing the K-3 but without a time machine, we can't retrospectively prioritise it over other cameras.

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21 upvotes
starjedi

Thanks for your kind reply.

3 upvotes
waxwaine

Simon said 1 month ago that K-3 review would be published all long of 1 month.

2 upvotes
raztec

While I agree with Mira and can't wait for the K3 review, I also find that Richard Butler et al have been extremely forthcoming with respect to their critique of Nikon's foray into mirror-less and the Df's 'silliness.' If they didn't have editorial freedom I don't think they could critique Nikon so openly

The explanation regarding the tardiness of the K3 review seems plausible, but not by nearly 6 months given how popular it appears among the DP users.

The majority of the users here are very well informed amateurs and gear heads. What they don't realize is how much in the minority they really are. The vast majority of those who buy cameras don't even know what an f stop is.

1 upvote
medon78

Those sample images look disappointing to me. Why?
Seems shutter speeds are unnecessarily fast ("static" scenes + VR-lens), forcing high ISOs even for well-lit scenes.

0 upvotes
kadardr

I don't understand. Could you please elaborate!

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Richard Murdey

Define "unnecessarily".

0 upvotes
medon78

Take "1-DSC_4512", the very first image, in the library.
Static scene; day-light; no need for fast shutter speed because there's no action to be frozen; VR lens.
1/640 ==> not needed, to high, costs image quality because of high ISO.

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Ivan Azzopardi

Dusted off is nice to hear but I preowned the D600 full of dust the D800 more or less the same. A friend of mine got the D4 same problem. I know the difference between oil and dust. Its a pity for Nikon as doesn't deserve it !! For me Nikon still the best but in this regards I am very disappointed May be the D4s will not have it.

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0 upvotes
davids8560

My pal Charlie has a house on the river. If I get this camera and go visit him, could I use it to take pictures of a boat on the river, or like a dock crowded with barrels full of fresh salmon on it, or something? Sometimes there are chipmunks in his backyard, too.

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6 upvotes
Laszlo13

I was going to say yes, until you mentioned chipmunks

5 upvotes
clauderobidoux

I read the same thing on many reviews. Like I said I may be unlucky. My Canon 40D and 5D II years ago were no better no worse, and had a lot of dust. My K-5 and K-01 were the cleanest cameras, I have no idea why but I never saw more than about 5 spots on a pic, and that was only occasionally. I never changed lenses outside yet with the D610, and before changing lens I turn off the camera and wait a good 2 minutes, than face the camera down and change lens as fast as possible. Like I said it's not that big of a deal and it's fairly easy to clean in Lightroom 5, but after spending $7000 it's just more dust than I like to deal with. They keep saying the camera is well sealed but never as good as the K-5. D610 has no seals when I open the memory card slot, where the K-5 was sealed. On the positive side the image quality is amazing, and the 14-24 and 70-200 are VERY sharp. I'm am getting lots of hit and miss with small moving subjects, but that may be me since I am new to Nikon.

0 upvotes
Laszlo13

Well after many years of owning Olympus equipment, I never had 1 dust on the sensor - ever. After 18 months of using the E-P1, with an exposed sensor, changing lenses outside wherever I wanted, not one speck of dust. I laughed at friends with Canon gear trying to change lenses inside their backpack.

1 upvote
Richard Murdey

I've seen a lot of K-5's with dust inside the rear LCD, the sealing between the mirror box and the internals being inadequate in early models. However I concede your point that the K-5 is generally very well built. Also, the sensor stabilization mechanism
is used by both pentax and olympus to shake dust off the sensor and in my experience this does actually work.

The D6x0 has a foam rubber o-ring around the memory card door. It's not the most obvious thing, but it will serve.

0 upvotes
clauderobidoux

This is what I was wondering too is that Pentax and Olympus have image stabilizer in sensor so maybe that helps to keep it clean on a regular basis. Also, that may seem strange to say but a full frame sensor is quite bigger than APS-C, and by quite a lot when you compare them side by side. Just makes sense to me that the bigger the sensor the more dust that can settle on it. So far this is my only complaint though besides that I think the camera is amazing. Personally, and I may be the only one but I don't get all the fuss about mirrorless. I have no problem carrying my D610 with the 70-200 2.8 all day in a shoulder bag, and in the winter outside at -10 celsius with gloves on I would certainly not want the camera to be smaller.

1 upvote
Donnie G

Even though Nikon goofed with their handling of the D600 sensor issue, they recovered nicely with the D610. Good thing too, because the D600/D610 cameras are extremely important models within Nikon's enthusiast/prosumer portfolio. Looks like Sony's A7/A7r twins are about to receive a spanking. Good job Nikon!

6 upvotes
HFLM

I decided for the D610 to accompany my EM1 against Sony.
I never regretted it. For me the size is perfect for my larger than average hands, especially for longer shooting sessions. But nevertheless I would like Nikon to develop a mirror less D610 like Sony did with the A7. I just would like it to be a little larger than the A7, with great ergonomics.

2 upvotes
Jorelle

I'm not sure if you could call it a "spanking." The Sony A7/A7r are great cameras. They're a lot smaller and lighter than the D610 and have excellent IQ. Only thing I like better about the D610 is more external controls and better lenses.

1 upvote
HFLM

There are things to like or not to like. Everybody needs to weight the positive/negative things. Sony tempted me too. Using small primes (especially manual lenses) the Sony makes sense. But long lenses or zooms and the size factor advantage gone. My OMD is very small too, but shooting for two to three hours I prefer my D610 as it just fits better in my hand. I only tested the Sony a short time and can only guess how it is to shoot for longer sessions, often one handed, changing settings on the fly often with one hand. Battery life is another thing, shutter sound, mushy shutter button, tripod plate (not as sturdy build), native lens selection (great, but expensive lenses), responsiveness, blackout when switching from rear lcd to viewfinder. When I saw the 55mm/1.8 I almost bought one anyway. But now the 50mm Sigma Art lens could be a great option, too. I bet the A8 or whatever really rises the bar.

1 upvote
Donnie G

I own Canon 6D and 70D cameras, and I have recently used a friend's Nikon D610. All 3 cameras provide me with great IQ, fast handling, a bright OVF, and similar size and weight that I find is very comfortable for all day shooting. Megapixel count isn't nearly as important to me as is fast and accurate AF, so even though I wanted to like the Sony A7/A7r cameras when I had a chance to handle them recently, it just didn't work out. There is no way that I would choose those Sony cameras over any DSLR that I own or use. They just don't address any of my photographic needs as well as what I've got.

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3 upvotes
pcblade

You missed the point : Sony A7 has two main features : EVF and no mirror : I can use Canon L lenses EF (200mm/100mm) FD (50mm 1.2/85mm 1.2), leica mount lenses, Nikon AI, AIS, etc. And the best feature : you can have it with you all time because it's small !

2 upvotes
HFLM

PCBLADE: It's not so small with lenses added (especially fast Nikon or Canon). The 24-70/4 or 55/1.8 is not small, too. I don't want to use manual focus all the time and adapters add size+weight + cost and may degrade quality (refer to lens rentals.com,mingthein).

2 upvotes
Donnie G

@pcblade,

pcblade, you miss the point. Which is that your notion of what are valuable A7 features to you has absolutely no bearing on the features that I place the highest value on when I'm choosing a camera. I don't want to use my EF lenses via an adapter. Why should I? I tried the A7's EVF. Hated it! Mirror box or no mirror box, I want fast and accurate AF, period. Sony's A7/A7r doesn't deliver on these counts. At least not for me. Hey, but that's just me. If you like the A7 or A7r, then buy them. I'm all for choice in the marketplace. :)

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BarnET

A very good score for an very good Dslr.

It may not win any category but it's very close everywhere. And it's a whole lot cheaper then the powerhouses it can stand up against.

I just wished the D600 was not plagued with problems. The D600 was already very good when the sensor stayed clean.

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2 upvotes
ageha

That was relatively quick for DPR!

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clauderobidoux

I have bought the D610 two months ago and shot about 3000 frames with it. If this is a fix for the D600 dust problem, well I feel bad for the D600 owners. I may be just unlucky but I have had dust since day one with this camera. I saved money for some time and decided to purchase only the best, so I got the 70-200 2.8 VRII and the 14-24mm. The first week I used the camera I only had the 70-200 on it, never changed the lens, and probably got about 40 dust spots on a few pictures.
I thought that these professional lenses were well sealed? I purchased the sensor gel stick and cleaned up the sensor three times already, and just can't get rid of all the dust. Sometimes I even notice that when I take several pictures without even changing lenses, I have dust in different places, which makes me wonder if it's coming from the inside. It is not that big of a deal but definitely annoying, and something I'm not used too coming from the Pentax K-5 & K-01 that had no such issue.

3 upvotes
rhlpetrus

Page 9(DR) tells it, this is an amazing sensor inside a decent body, a bit conservative by current fad trends, but still a solid one. And ADL is only part of the story, using a proper routine for conversion in ACR or CNX2 one can perform miracles in terms of recovering shadows details and colors, when properly exposed. Throw in one of the best high performances around and one has likely the best balance between pixel count/resolution, base ISO and high Iso IQ. Not a small feat by Sony and Nikon.

1 upvote
Scottelly

The image comparison boggles my mind. Take a look at the differences in the pencil drawing to the left of the middle of the photo. In some spots the D800 seems to have an obvious advantage, while in some spots the Sony A7 seems to be the sharper camera, yet in other spots (the vertical lines on the walls near the top right corner) the D610 seems to be the sharpest of all the cameras. WTF?

1 upvote
rhlpetrus

Focus/lens?

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2 upvotes
AllOtherNamesTaken

The small differences in the test shots like that are almost always due to focus and lens variations. The test diagrams aren't always useful for testing sharpness, we all know ANY camera with a good lens will be absolutely sharp. The test shots are more for noise, etc.

2 upvotes
AlexRuiz

I don't own the D610. I own the D600 (never had any dust issues or any other bs that posted about it). All I can say is that it is a fine camera. For the value, it is hard to beat it. You buy into a very robust system in terms of features, lens selection, flash system, etc. And the camera itself is a fantastic performer. The image quality you get from this camera is just fantastic, probably one of the best ever in a camera costing less than $10K.

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Scottelly

This is true, but there have been a lot of people with the oil problem. If you deny that then you are acting like an ostrich, the way Nikon acted. They were smart to create the D610, but they were not smart to deny the existence of a problem. Afterall, there were photographers who had the problem, even after they had owned the D700 and never had a problem with that camera. Did many photographers who had the D700 have the problem and just never notice it? Maybe. I guess we will probably never know. But I don't think this was just an imaginary problem created by pixel-peepers. The D600 was compared against the D800 by many people, and the D800 was found to be free of the problem. It is a real problem with the D600, and Nikon has acknowledged it.

3 upvotes
tinzi1

Instead of a Gold Award, D610 should be precisely given the "Nice Try but Failed" award. As of today, even Nikon acknowledged they can't pull this scam off because everybody is suing their ashh harsh. Seriously a review for this D610? You must be seriously kidding me.

5 upvotes
Scottelly

Do you think it's advertising?

0 upvotes
AlexRuiz

Who exactly is suing Nikon? Last I checked they won a lawsuit vs. Sigma, but that's it. Here is a recommendation. Get the camera and test it against what you perceive as the best. I can assure you it will perform very well and will beat all others except for the likes of D800, 5DIII. But don't take my word for it, go try it out.

4 upvotes
HFLM

Do you have numbers how many D600s are affected. What percentage out of all sold cameras have the issue? A large local dealer I know told me he sold 250 units and 2 had the issue. I'm just curious.

3 upvotes
tinzi1

Amazon told us out of 300 owners, 100+ has issues. B&H has D7000 selling, but completely wiped out the D600, even the reviews. And who is suing Nikon? O.M.G...forget it man. I am really glad for a satisfied D600 own, but fyi, there has been A LOT of bad ones.

1 upvote
AlexRuiz

tinzi1, I am serious. I know there was talk about class action litigation, but has that happened and Nikon lost? Web searches turned up only forum discussions.

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0 upvotes
Rokey

But do you have factual figures tinzi1? No, none of us does, just lots and lots of excited internet chatter but no real numbers.

Amazon 100 out of 300? I think you will find that is the percentage of people who wrote reviews of the camera. And we all know that unhappy people are far more likely to make their views known than those who are just quietly enjoying their camera.

1 upvote
Rokey

AlexRuiz, yes I believe class action suits have recently been filed. Not yet heard of course, much too soon.

But it was their filing that prompted Nikon, within days, to issue their offer to replace the shutters. Shame they didn't do that sooner, they have handled the whole affair very badly.

It serves them right that one of the consequences of that is that everyone assumes the problem is much bigger than in reality it probably is.

1 upvote
km25

I use mirror less cameras, but if I want FF. I would buy this camera. Jpegs are very good, better then A7/R and it handles low as well as any 20MP+ camera. For the money, it is the way to go for 20MP+.

2 upvotes
select

if this camera had a faster buffer and the 51 AF points system was better.
the 39 af system is disappointing

0 upvotes
BarnET

Say that to the Canon users with their 9 point 1 crosstype of the 6D

3 upvotes
HFLM

It's enough for most purposes. I own the D610 and the spread of the AF points is the only thing I sometimes criticise (however, I also own an EM1 and like it to focus on any region, this may affect my impression; for stills, however, one can use the lcd yo achieve that).

1 upvote
quiquae

@BarnET
As a 6D owner, I was envious of D610's higher number of cross point sensors until I saw how they are all bunched up in the center. Talk about disappointment.

0 upvotes
select

@BarnET yes you're right, but the 39af points are all packed in the center... they become useless, at least, if they wanted to keep 39 points they should have changed the layout

0 upvotes
topstuff

A great camera. It is hard to criticise really. It is great value and for perhaps 90% of shooters it really is all the camera anyone will need.

7 upvotes
Scottelly

Probably for 95% to 98% of shooters really. 6 fps at 24 megapixels?!? Nice! (shoots 50% faster than the D800 and 20% faster than the incredibly expensive D3x did). Except that the old Sony A77 does it at 12 fps. I think Nikon needs to step up and make a better, faster 24 megapixel camera, like a D5. They won't do that any time soon though, because the D4s just came out (and I am very disappointed with it - I would have liked to see this 24 megapixel sensor in that thing, with the ability to shoot at 12 fps). Still, this camera is really nice, and a good competitor to the Canon 6 D.

1 upvote
Yxa

Wrong weight in the comparison table for the D800, should be 1000g inc battery
Not 900g

0 upvotes
Yxa

DPR you still haven't corrected the weight of the D800 with battery and when you do make sure to correct it in the D800 Review also
"Approx. 1,000 g (2 lb 3.3 oz) with battery and SD memory card but without body cap; approx. 900 g/1 lb 15.7 oz (camera body only)"
http://www.europe-nikon.com/en_GB/product/digital-cameras/slr/professional/d800
See specications
There was a lot of stink from the Canon people on DPR forums stating the 5D III was better bult as it was heavier than the D800 on account of your "specifications"

0 upvotes
Yxa

Ok we are doing a slow progess here
Now the wieght in grams for the D800 is right in the table but the weight in lb is still wrong, should be 2 lb 3.3 oz not 1.98 lb (1.98 is still= 900g I think)
Not that I care to much about Imperial metrics see:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3638079
The weight in the still totally wrong in the D800 review

0 upvotes
bluevellet

Essentially the same 2012 camera and still best FF camera for the buck.

23 upvotes
Carlos Loff

Not a good camera for the money, it would be a great camera if it costed less, NIKON is Playing a dangerous game

0 upvotes
Horshack

Dangerous? Are there Ninjas involved?

27 upvotes
topstuff

I have no idea what Carlos Loff is talking about, given that a) the D610 is perfectly well priced compared to its rivals like the 6D and b) it is not and never will be dangerous.

Strange post. :)

5 upvotes
LarryK

The Blenders?

0 upvotes
AlexRuiz

Correction. It is prob the best bang for the buck....if you care about image quality that is.

2 upvotes
BarnET

No alexruiz.
The best bang for buck in terms of IQ is the Sony A7r.
It costs less and has the D800e sensor. However this Nikon has less quirks and a bigger lens-lineup. So overall it's indeed a better buy

1 upvote
Scottelly

I think the Sigma SD1 Merrill is the best bang for the buck, when image quality is most important, and when speed of operation is most important, I think the Sony A77 is the best bang for the buck.

1 upvote
JGoodard

I'm inclined to agree. I have watched some youtube videos produced by very experienced and insightful shooters using the Sigma DPx Merrills (Ben Evans, for ex,) and I am in absolute awe of the image quality produced by the Foveon sensor. Actually, I am in awe of the skill shown by the photographer's themselves and the more I look over the Sigmas, the more I appreciate the minimalist (almost SLR-like) approach taken by Sigma in the design of their digital cameras.

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0 upvotes
Digital Suicide

Ok, now put all of your hate here and don't forget to press 1 up for your comment.

By the way, thanks DPR for great review of great camera.

4 upvotes
Dimit

87 ??????????????...The two numbers should be reversed !

1 upvote
Rbrt

Really? How come?

6 upvotes
Ben Ramsey

Obviously because it isn't a Sony, which means too many lenses to choose from.

10 upvotes
Scottelly

It's a good camera Dimit, even though it is a little behind the times. It should have wi-fi and maybe a built-in GPS, like the D5300 has.

0 upvotes
Josh152

@Scottelly. Nikon wants to sell those dongles and people spending $2000 on a camera typically buy accessories too but a D5300 is the type camera of people buy with the kit lens and then never buy another accessory for it. That is why the D5300 has it built in and the D610 doesn't. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the D620 just because Canon has it built in at this price point and it is the only thing the 6D does better than the D610.

0 upvotes
Pritzl

DPR's tardiness with this review (esp. since it's practically the same camera) rivals Nikon's delay in admitting the sensor oil/dust issue on the D600! :)

7 upvotes
jkoch2

Patience. Let old dust settle before stirring up more.

1 upvote
HowaboutRAW

Pritzl:

The quiet shutter feature on the D610 sure is nice. Hope the D4s has it too.

0 upvotes
Scottelly

The shutter on the D4s is probably always that quiet.

0 upvotes
Prognathous

Yawn... what a boring camera. It would have been sufficient to say that it has no standing quality issues and just direct readers to the D600 review. Not worth investing any efforts in actually doing a full review IMHO.

11 upvotes
Revenant

A camera is just a tool you use to create pictures. Who cares if it's 'boring' (whatever that means)? I'm more interested in exciting pictures, and I'm sure the D610, in the right hands, is capable of producing just that.

17 upvotes
Ben Ramsey

Yawn... what a boring comment. It would have been sufficient to say that it has nothing to add to the conversation and just direct readers to the myriad of other anti-Nikon bs. Not worth investing any efforts in actually reading or responding to IMHO.

13 upvotes
Scottelly

This isn't really a full review anyway. (only 14 pages . . . the review for the Sony A7 is 20 pages, the review for the Canon 70 D is 20 pages, the review for the Nikon D5300 is 19 pages, the review for the Nikon D7100 is 20 pages, etc. etc.)

1 upvote
fcimbar

For a hobbyist ilke me, it has all the features ı dream of.

5 upvotes
Horshack

Agree with the review. The D600/D610 are fantastic cameras and represent excellent values. Used/Refurbished D600's even more so. It's really a shame about the D600's oil problems and particularly how Nikon handled them. The release of the D610 was a huge middle finger to all D600 owners. But in the end Nikon finally did right with their unconditional D600 shutter replacement policy.

22 upvotes
RichRMA

Particularly when all the camera makers still suggest sending cameras in for sensor cleaning and not doing it yourself.

1 upvote
naththo

Seems shame to see Nikon decide to make it too steep in contrast in default setting without ADL on. That is something professional photography doesn't want that. But other than that RAW file looks perfectly fine which comes out much better than the JPEG though. If you want to stick with JPEG, leave ADL standard on, it will come out much better and not too steep in contrast so it does not clip too much in both highlight/shadow.

My A7 has much better dynamic range in JPEG than that Nikon D610 which is unusual to see that for such full frame. The Sony noise reduction in low setting does better job than Nikon. Seriously Nikon need to improve next time in JPEG shooting if people does not want to bother with fiddle around in raw files. Canon 70D still #1 for the phase detection for liveview shooting. Not even one can beat Canon 70D yet.

1 upvote
calking

Someone buying this 24mp FF camera isn't using it to shoot mostly jpeg files.

11 upvotes
bluevellet

Not all people buy FF cameras for the MP. It just so happens all those entry-level FF cameras are 20+ MP cameras.

1 upvote
steelhead3

If you think the canon 70d is the best in LV...it is time to broaden your outlook, the sony dslt smoke the 70d...Canon is just beginning to catch up.

7 upvotes
sandy b

Not so much

The D610 jpgs are really excellent, IMO.

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Scottelly

Can't you just turn down the contrast? I never had any problems adjusting the JPEGs in my D5000, so I am sure there would be no problem getting what I want from the D610 either. I think what you are complaining about is a result of you not experimenting. Read your user manual and play with the settings.

0 upvotes
Jorelle

As far as the Sony A7 having better dynamic range, noise reduction, etc. than the D610, I don't see that in the sample photos here. The D610 has much better battery life, better useability via the nice external controls, and better lens choices than the Sony. But I guess it all depends on your style of shooting and which features you prefer.

0 upvotes
naththo

So... to solves problem for the Nikon D610 to relax/lessen the contrast, turn on ADL at standard setting, it solves the problem for JPEG in DR, it causes contrast curve to become more neutral and not too aggressive. Or use RAW instead of having to do too much fiddle to set it right on JPEG.

You miss one boat is I didn't say I have got D610 or bought the D610. The D610 I saw here in review is what I refer to sample, studio samples and graph.

0 upvotes
nijkerk

It's just a fantastic camera...light years away from what was possible not so long ago....why nitpick ?

6 upvotes
Carlos Loff

Its not worth the money it costs

1 upvote
topstuff

I really do not understand the criticism of the price. This is not a pricey camera for what if offers IMO.

2 upvotes
Scottelly

It is not worth a different number. People are still upset about the way Nikon has handled the whole situation of building a faulty camera and not owning up to it. This camera is viewed by many as the same camera as the D600, which is why many think it does not deserve a review. I think DPR feels the same way, to a degree, which would explain why their review is only 14 pages, while most other reviews of DSLR cameras are about 20 pages.

0 upvotes
Jorelle

I think Carlos Loff is just tossing out criticisms without backing it up with facts. How is the D610 not worth the money it costs? Show me another FF camera with similar features that sells for less?

1 upvote
naththo

lol Carlos is wrong. I looked at the price, wow thats cheap! I mean seriously is great value for money. Most modern FF nowaday are not too expensive and is much better value than years ago it was. Try the worst value in camera is Leica! Who wants to buy too dear Leica? lol

0 upvotes
Andreas Berglund

Well it seems like a fine camera and a good value. But 87%? Seriously with a 39 point AF? The D800e got 84% if I recollect and it is a MUCH better camera in so many ways.

3 upvotes
sandy b

Different class, a cameras score is only relevant within its own class. In the D800 class the D610 would probably only worth in the 70's.

0 upvotes
Jogger

In Canada, the D610 sells for more than a $1200 less than the D800e... in terms of sensor, the D610, D800e are rated at 94 and 96 respectively. Seems like a solid buy to me.

3 upvotes
Retzius

I bet the D620 comes out next year with wi-fi, gps, expeed4, and a dirty sensor.

Then they can release the D630 6 months later.

27 upvotes
ageha

Won't happen. ;)

0 upvotes
Jogger

Nice big full-frame sensor... 94 on DxOMark. Why settle for less?

11 upvotes
Heie2

So it's *exactly* the same, but with a couple extremely minor differences. Essentially the EXACT same.

Well so is the Pentax K-50/K-500 from the Pentax K-30 for the most part except a new body and the entry (K-500) and mid-entry/consumer (K-50) differentiation to the product line.

The point being, the review would be extremely easy and quick, just like the D610 must have been. But, there's one thing that is most curious...

D610 Annoucement: October 8th, 2013
D610 Review Complete: March 12th, 2014 (124 days)

K-50/K-500 Announcement: June 12th, 2013
K-50/K-500 Review Complete: 273 days and counting...

DPR: Fair and Balanced.

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Barney Britton

@ Hele2, we can't do everything, as quickly as everyone would like. Our editorial prioritization is based on lots of factors. Resources (obviously), the speed with which we actually receive a product after it's announced, how popular the announcement / preview was and so on. These reviews take a very long time to write, as I hope that anyone who's read them will appreciate, and our team of writers is pretty small.

Obviously, I'm sorry you feel this is unfair - I can assure that we're trying to find ways of getting more reviews up more quickly, but that will involve some compromises. Feel free to make suggestions via the feedback link at the bottom of this page.

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Vlad S

@ Barney Britton. This simply does not compute. K3 won your public camera of the year rating, so there's definitely interest. At the same time, the last full review of a Pentax DSLR was K5-II, which was announced in September of 2012! We all appreciate detailed reviews, but it just seems that Pentax is the only brand that can go over a year without a full review, no matter how good the camera is.

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Barney Britton

@ Vlad - with respect, you have no visibility into our site metrics at all. Although the K-3 did indeed win that poll, this only accounts for (assuming no duplicated accounts) around 2500 votes. There are currently around one million registered site users.

Don't get me wrong - people love the K-3, and I respect that and it's being worked on right now. But we have to react pragmatically to serve the needs of our entire audience.

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AlexRuiz

I agree with these comments from Barney. While the K3 is a fine camera, if only a few people use it ( I don't and nobody I know shoots Pentax), there is honestly not as much urgency. Nothing against it, jus going by the numbers.

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topstuff

Barney is effectively saying that DPR follows but does not lead.

Reviews are based on what the crowd, the herd of sheep, want to read. This means that DPR does not have any mission to inform or educate, they are just giving the crowd what they want. The crowd does not know that, for example, the K3 is probably the best APSC camera on the market. And DPR has basically admitted that it is not their job to tell the market this. They are just here to give the crowd what they think they want.

It suggests that if a camera comes along that is genuinely a great offering to the consumer, but lacks recognition among consumers, then DPR is not likely to support it. But anything from a big brand will get priority, just because that will get the clicks.

Editorially speaking, I find that very disappointing.

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BarnET

Topstuff,

Those are my exact sentiments. Even though the Pentax K500 will wipe the floor with the 1200D/T5 the latter will get an review. Therefore the Crowd will never know about the great small Dslr Pentax makes for the money.

Same with the K3 which is probably the best Apsc Dslr on the planet yet no one knows anything about this product.

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Matewka

@topstuff you couldn't put it any better.
I just wanted to add that I know that DPR has a lot on their minds, a lot of cameras/lenses/flashlights/tripods/bags (and wi-fi cards) to review and I know that there are lots of cameras which also wait for a long time for a review, just like K-3, but... Pentax K-3 was chosen the best APS-C DSLR of the year. I thought it would put it just a little higher in the queue.

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LensBeginner

It's just something different from what you were probably accustomed to.

When I was thinking about which camera to buy a few years ago I considered dpreview to be a superior source of information and knowledge on digital photography.

Now I mainly read it as an amusing diversion and a curio/variety website, but the delusions of objectivity are long gone.
It's the web and the market who ask for this so I don't blame the staff.

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paulski66

lol...Pentax.

My dad shot a Pentax in Vietnam, and used it while I was growing up. His is the last Pentax I've seen in the wild. Not only do I not know anyone who shoots Pentax, I live withing driving distance of two great camera stores, neither of which stocks Pentax.

Pentax has a great legacy, but I would be shocked if they're still making cameras in 10 years...hell, in 5 years. Maybe fans of the brand will get lucky and Sony or someone will buy them up and release a Pentax-branded throwback camera every few years.

But complaining because DPReview reviews Nikons and Canons faster than they review the latest Pentax offering is absurd.

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LensBeginner

@paulsky
...so the masses are always right... right?

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AlexRuiz

I don't care how great the K3 is. Fact is, only a handful of people around the planet find it great (exagerating a bit of course). That is why there is no urgency in a review of the K3.

I absolutely do not care about the K3, not necessarily the camera itself, but more so Pentax the brand. The Nikon system is much more robust than the Pentax system. So while the K3 is good, IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH to make me want to switch from Nikon to Pentax.

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D1N0

I don't care what you think you stupid CanoNikon

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plainwhite

A fine camera indeed!

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