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Canon EOS 70D Review

October 2013 | By Andy Westlake, Richard Butler


Review based on a production Canon EOS 70D

During the early days of digital SLRs, Canon was pretty much the undisputed leader in CMOS image sensor technology. Almost every new EOS model came with an increase in resolution and high ISO range, and when the EOS 7D appeared in late 2009, the company had progressed from 3MP to 18MP, and ISO 1600 to ISO 12800, in just over nine years. But since then Canon's APS-C cameras have all sported variants on the same basic sensor design, to the extent that you could be forgiven for wondering what on earth their engineers were doing all day. Now we know.

The EOS 70D is a mid-range SLR for enthusiast photographers that from the outside looks like a sensible, indeed desirable upgrade to the EOS 60D. It borrows many of the best bits from Canon's existing SLRs, including the autofocus sensor from the EOS 7D, the fully articulated touchscreen from the EOS 700D (Rebel T5i), and built-in Wi-Fi from the EOS 6D. But on the inside it sports an entirely new sensor that is, potentially, revolutionary. It offers 20.2MP resolution, but uses a 'Dual Pixel CMOS AF' design in which every single pixel is split into two separately-readable photodiodes, facing left and right. This means that in principle they are all capable of phase detection autofocus in live view and movie mode.

On-chip phase detection is nothing new - we first saw it in the Fujifilm F300EXR back in 2010. Since then it's been adopted in one form or another by most manufacturers, with arguably its most successful implementation coming in Nikon's 1 System mirrorless models. But because until now it's used relatively few active pixels scattered sparsely across the sensor, it's had practical limitations, often only covering a restricted area of the frame and struggling once the light drops below outdoor daylight levels. Canon says that its Dual Pixel AF system, in contrast, works across an area 80% of the frame width and height, in light levels as low as 0 EV, and at apertures down to F11. This means it could well be the most capable live view autofocus system we've yet seen on any type of camera.

We'll look at the technology behind the EOS 70D's live view AF in more detail later, but let's not forget that it has to work as a conventional SLR too. To this end it uses the same 19-point AF sensor as the EOS 7D for viewfinder shooting, but with slightly simplified control options in firmware. It can rattle shots off at 7fps for up to 65 frames in JPEG or 16 in Raw, and its standard ISO range covers 100-12800, with ISO 25600 as an expanded option. Image processing is via the DIGIC 5+ processor first seen in the EOS 5D Mark III.

In terms of control layout the EOS 70D is a logical evolution of the EOS 60D, adopting many of Canon's intervening updates and improvements. So it offers a full set of external controls to operate most key functions, and Canon's well-designed Quick Control screen to cover pretty much everything else. It also adopts the superb touchscreen interface that debuted on the EOS 650D (Rebel T4i), which we've found to be more useful than you might at first think. The 70D also regains an array of features that disappeared between the EOS 50D and 60D, such as AF microadjustment.

Canon EOS 70D key features

  • 20.2MP APS-C 'Dual Pixel CMOS AF' sensor
  • DIGIC 5+ image processor
  • ISO 100-12800 standard, 25600 expanded
  • 7fps continuous shooting, burst depth 65 JPEG / 16 Raw
  • 'Silent' shutter mode
  • 1080p30 video recording, stereo sound via external mic
  • 19-point AF system, all points cross-type, sensitive to -0.5 EV
  • 63-zone iFCL metering system
  • 98% viewfinder coverage, 0.95x magnification, switchable gridlines and electronic level display
  • Fully-articulated touchscreen, 1040k dot 3" ClearView II LCD, 3:2 aspect ratio
  • Single SD/SDHC/SDXC card slot
  • Built-in Wi-Fi
  • Single-axis electronic level
  • Built-in flash works as off-camera remote flash controller
  • AF microadjustment (can be set individually for up to 40 lenses, remembered by lens serial number)
  • In-camera High Dynamic Range and Multiple Exposure modes (JPEG-only)
  • 'Creative Filter' image processing styles, previewed in live view

Key specs compared

In the table below we see how some of the EOS 70D's key specs measure up against its more expensive big brother, the EOS 7D, and its main rival, the Nikon D7100. What's interesting here is just how close the 70D is to the 7D in terms of spec - in much the same way as Nikon's D7000 made the D300S look almost redundant, it's quite difficult to see why most Canon users would now choose the top-end APS-C model.

 
Canon EOS 70D
Canon EOS 7D
Nikon D7100
 Effective Pixels  • 20.2 MP  • 18.0 MP  • 24.1 MP
 ISO Range  • 100-12800 standard
 • 25600 expanded
 • 100-6400 standard
 • 12800 expanded
 • 100-6400 standard
 • 50-25600 expanded
 No of AF points  • 19  • 19  • 51
 AF in live view  • Phase detection  • Contrast detection  • Contrast detection
 Screen  • 3.0" 3:2
 • 1,040,000 dots
 • Fully-articulated
 • Touch sensitive
 • 3.0" 4:3
 • 920,000 dots
 • Fixed
 • 3.2" 4:3
 • 1,228,800 dots
 • Fixed
 Viewfinder  • 98% coverage
 • 0.95x magnification
 • 100% coverage
 • 1.0x magnification
 • 100% coverage
 • 0.94x magnification
 Continuous drive  • 7 fps  • 8 fps  • 6 fps
 Storage  • SD/SDHC/SDXC  • Compact flash  • SD/SDHC/SDXC
 • 2 slots
 Weight
 (inc batteries)
 • 755g (1.7 lb)  • 860g (1.9 lb)  • 765g (1.7 lb)
 Dimensions  • 139 x 104 x 79 mm
   (5.5 x 4.1 x 3.1")
 • 148 x 111 x 74 mm
   (5.8 x 4.4 x 2.9")
 • 136 x 107 x 76 mm
   (5.4 x 4.2 x 3.0")
 Wi-Fi  •  Built-in  •  Optional  •  Optional

Size and design compared to the EOS 60D

The EOS 70D directly replaces the EOS 60D in Canon's range, and is very similar in terms of size and design. It's a bit smaller though, and has a sensibly-updated control layout. Here we take a more-detailed look at the two cameras side-by-side.

From the front the EOS 70D looks almost identical to the 60D. But it's slimmed down a bit, being fractionally narrower. Look a little closer and you can also see that the 60D's front-facing mono microphone has gone (replaced by stereo mics on the top plate).
The two cameras are pretty similar from the back too, with the 70D retaining the same basic layout. It gains Canon's improved live view/movie mode controller, and has a physical switch to lock the rear dial against accidental operation rather than a button. Other than that it uses all the same buttons, just not necessarily in the same order.
From the top, again the 70D is very much a sensible evolution. The mode dial is simplified and now rotates continuously rather than having hard end stops, and there's a new AF area expansion button next to the shutter release. But the rest of the controls are all essentially the same.

Kit options and pricing

The EOS 70D will be sold body-only for £1079 / $1199 / €1099, as a kit with the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM for £1199.99 / $1340 / €1249, or with the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM lens for £1399.99 $1549 / €1499. The BG-E14 battery grip will cost £229.99 / $270 / €215.


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Total comments: 669
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sambam007

Im pretty sure your camera's drive mode is in AI SERVO. change it to single shot

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Freddell

Bought a 70D after many rave reviews like this one and for wanting a faster auto focus than my Fuji X100.

With the 18-135 Kit lens indoor shooting without flash is very difficult.
70D very bad high ISO capability compared to X100.

Bought a Sigma 18-35 1.8 to cure the low light performance and discovered to my absolute dismay now that the view finder auto focus is not capturing the right object, thus rendering the 18-35 1.8 useless indoors with its short focal length.

I would have trashed the 70D for a Nikon immediately if not for the touch screen. I feel that is immoral that no you tube review of 70d or Sigma 18-35 mentions that the auto focus of the 70d is useless rendering the lens meaningless.

4 upvotes
loph

You are right.
It even fails to focus with the canon own lenses( 1.8 and 1.4 primes)
So basically this camera is mainly functional with the 18-135mm lens.
If you want to use a prime, then good luck.

1 upvote
AJorger

This is not true. Almost all of these images were recorded between f1.6 and f1.8

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52865733

5 upvotes
Lawrencew

Can you not use AF micro adjustment to fix the Sigma issue?

2 upvotes
ebbo

Re focus issues - The way I choose my first DSLR some years ago was to try all the cameras I was interested in, all together, in the same shop. The only camera that hit focus instantly, every time, was the Canon 350D. I've still got that camera.

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srados

I do not know what is the problem.If you are doing sports photography or shooting turtles walking.I always set high ISO and bang bang bang, things are in focus.It is all about settings...

3 upvotes
naththo

Either human error, or just a troll bash against 70D, or faulty camera. Take your pick, if you pick 2nd, then sucks in your just jealous about Canon 70D.

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HG South Africa

The problem you are describing could be as a result of so many variable settings, it is highly unlikely that the camera itself is the cause - you should fix the focal point on the camera and then shoot to confirm that the lens delivers sharp pictures on this camera, which it will. You also have to consider the light meteting / evaluation setting - shooting indoors in low light with contrasting backdrops will almost definitely draw the AF to the background if you're shooting in evaluative metering as opposed to partial metering. Bottom line - I've not observed what you're describing even when I try to replicatd that problem...

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km25

This looks like a nice camera. Comparing this to a Nikon 7100, that 24MP is too high in MP, that 20MP gives a better balance in a APS-C sensor in noise to MP. The images look better at ISO 800 and above in 70D. That is over all.

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Bill T.

I was handed a 70D to shoot videos at an art reception. The autofocus is nothing short of amazing! Almost no hunting at all, it hit the mark every time, and when somebody walked into the scene at a closer distance the focus pull was decisive and smooth. It's at least as good as most professional camcorders, especially in the way it arbitrates where to put the focus. And the video noise around iso 1600 is very unobstrusive.

This is the go-to DSLR for party videos. I'm not going to give up my D800, but I may pick up a 70D for people & events videos.

2 upvotes
jaydubbs15

Does water and dust resistant mean that it can be used reliably in the rain like the Olympus OMD EM1?

0 upvotes
HG South Africa
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Dave Packer

I'm so excited about this camera from Canon. Autofocus in video mode to allow fusion of shooting stills and video,is the way forward.

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CC48

DPReview states in the SPECS that there is NO Image Stabilization. Is that correct? In other publications, there are references that there IS Image Stabilization.

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Just Ed

Canon does not build the IS into the bodies, it is in some of their lenses including this kit's lens.

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davidg2020

I think you're being quite charitable when you talk about the DOF preview button (i.e. you're not huge fans). I have a 6D which has the same position and it is woeful ergonomics. it's not "too bad" in the landscape orientation but disastrous in the portrait orientation.
Canon... don't ever do this again!

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purest

I just go a 6D also, and was quite confused with this button. At first I couldn't find it! Then once I did I couldn't work out what hand position would make it possible to press.
Having said this - its not a button that I need much.

0 upvotes
Roadrunnerdeluxe

Judging by the low DxO Mark sensor score of 68, and the "pro" list above, I have to assume this camera rides to a gold award as gadget stuffed wifi box, not so much as a camera?

7 upvotes
DYoda

I hope there's more to it than that.

0 upvotes
Dougbm_2

DP review mentions the 360º rotation of the mode dial but don't say if the lock is as per the 60d. ie if it HAS to be unlocked or if it can be set to lock or not - ie do we have a choice?
Also the rear multi-controller - is it better or worse than the 60D (which was not very good).
One of the main turnoffs of the 60D was the loud and cheap shutter sound. It is probably the same mechanism as the 50D but I think the light plastic body made it sound worse.
I actually reverted to the 50D as I preferred the handling.
This 70D looks to have better shadow noise and hi ISO, better af and better movie af but will it still have the traits of the 60D that I didn't like eg unpleasant shutter sound and clumsy rear multi-controller and awkward Mode dial.
Also I see it has the ISO button in the middle (as per 60D) not the end where it is easy to find (as per 50D).

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red queen

i got my self on of these not long ago. looks like fun a great addition to my analogue cameras,its been working like a charm and in comparison with the nikon 5200 and 5300 i kinda like this one..

but ive been wondering how to setup my web service on my camera it keeps telling me it is not available in my country is their a way to change that setting

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Richt2000

Looks like Canon finally have progressed technology futher than just tweaking AF and raising mp and noise handling.

Interesting that you can select AF point and fire the shutter using the screen in live view mode. Much like mirrorless cameras have been doing for a few years now.

As an ex-wedding photographer, changing the AF point with the joystick whilst looking through the optical viewfinder was pretty quick and something I got used to. However shooting by 'touching people's eyes' on a touch screen is sooo much quicker.

I would guess that DSLRs will either go all EVF or dual Optical/EVF in the next few years. As the evf resolution improves, and jello effect illiminated, there is little advantage of the optical viewfinder.

Bring back canon's eye tracking af point selection 21st centuary I say!

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Gesture

What a better value/approach if one is buying an older model: Say, get the 50D or a more recent but not latest in the Rebel Series, say T4i. Thanks.

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JadedGamer

Depends: The 50D has no articulated screen, wi-fi or video and has a far older processing engine. But it is decent enough (I kept mine around after getting the 5D mk III so that I had a crop sensor body for the occasions when that is advantageous).

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Picturenaut

The 50D is technically quite outdated, its not only the lack of video but noise performance isn't top of the notch. That said, the 50D is a tough, reliable workhorse in a rugged body that still can produce very nice images. Sold mine to friends, and they are very happy with it.

Btw magic lantern offers a video hack for the 50D. The only drawback is that you need an external audio recorder...

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Bowest

T4i apparently has some issues which is why they quickly dropped it and came out with the T5.. Don't know what the issues were but bad enough to drop it pretty fast.

0 upvotes
SaulMDetofsky

It's not the camera, it's the person behind the camera.

5 upvotes
iBrick

I know, right? I have a pinhole camera I made myself that can put this to shame.

7 upvotes
purest

I don't even need a camera.
I create amazing pictures with pure skill alone.

-no one can see the pictures, but just knowing that they are the best is enough for me.

6 upvotes
RobertSigmund

A real gienius needs no camera, and Eddy Merckx would have won the TdF even on a Swiss Army Bicyde!

0 upvotes
Isoruku

So Saul, I assume you will never read DP Review again, is that right?

0 upvotes
DYoda

And the film Saul!
Where the hell do you put the film in this thing!

0 upvotes
lynmay

Still do not like the "new" test scene. Now we have no idea if the newer cameras are really worth the money or if it just marketing to sell new cameras. Guess I'll no longer use DPRs test scenes as research for my gear. DPR used to save me a bit of rental $.

7 upvotes
LVPhoto1

The most expensive camera...Makes you a professional photographer; if you teach photography...tell all your students to buy the most expensive camera’s and at the end of the semester you’ll have very few students. And you won’t be teaching anymore. Pun intended:)-'

A pro with a point and shoot will leave you in the dust.

Happy Holidays;....

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Boris F

pay attention, your site:
portofolio->events-> pict 12 (?)

1 upvote
Empies

I do not think so! Even the most professional camera does not immediately make a professional photographer ... The only thing that my student can grasp the end of the semester, it is an expensive camera. But knowledge is not a professional photographer.

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Empies

There are no bad cameras, there are bad photographers

13 upvotes
utomo99

Good cameras help photographer take good picture easier

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Claudio NC

There are no bad cameras?
What idiocy!

Blah, blah, blah ....

2 upvotes
Streetutopia

In the 80's MOMA in NYC gave out cheap little point and shoot film cameras to a bunch of famous painters and asked them to submit a photo or two for an exhibition. The photo's were all wonderful as one would expect from a group of great painters. The camera made absolutely no difference to the composition, etc of the photographs. I see people on this site arguing about whether a certain camera has x number of pixels or a certain dial in a certain place on the camera. What most of you should be thinking about is composition, an interesting subject, etc and not camera specs.

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purest

That's like saying:
"there are no bad cars, only bad drivers"

my mum might be a bad driver, but her car is also terrible.

2 upvotes
enemjii

There are people with great ideas, but lack the knowledge to execute it on a given equipment. For example is a movie director and the cameraman. It is the movie director that makes the cameraman great, and vice versa. It is a symbiotic relationship.

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TomUW

I think you mean synergistic relationship. I totally agree. I learnt all about composition in film days, and I was always seeing things that I could not get a good photo of because of dynamic range and ISO/noise issues. I so appreciate the current DSLRs that let me finally takes these images and share them how I saw them.

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JohnP

There is no cable release remote control similar to the 20D, 7D, etc? Is there only a remote control that attaches to the hot shoe?

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MichaelH66

Wont the WiFi deal with this?

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DPReview Staff

There's an infrared port on the front grip for remote release.

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Bill Bentley

I see a cable release input in Image #9 on the Body & Elements review page? Or are you asking about something different?

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grafli

I know what you mean. The cable release is the same as in the 350D-700D. Not the one wich is implemented in 20D-50D or 5D or 1D.
Its the cheap cable release with the 2.5mm jack.

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Timetraveler333

Between the EOS70D and the Nikon D7100 using a 3.5 lens (Canon & Nikon) on both, which would provide the best low light capability? Camera will be hand held and venue will be stage performances with moderate movement and occasional ice skating events. I am currently using the Canon T2i and hope to step up to a camera offering better image quality under low light conditions.

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James Qi

I'd recommend the Apple iPhone 3 over either of those.

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12345ccr

iPhone 3? In low light you'll get nothing but noise. If you're using t2i you might as well invest the money into better glass instead of a new camera. If you have to shoot at 3.5 though, the 70D is better.

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olddog99

I've found the iPhones useful and in specific situations very useful. The iPhone 5s (whatever, not the 5C) is better than the 4. But saying that there's no way I'd recommend the iPhone over either of those cameras, even with a 3.5, although one would hope there's a longer lens. One flaw of the iPhone for that kind of work is that it's too much of a wide angle -- and noise is likely to be a problem. The worse the light is, the noisier it gets.

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Johan Venter

I am very impressed with the 70D's low light performance. It is excellent. Perhaps this is the best feature of this camera. I have a 50D as well and there is no comparison

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Johan Venter

James Qi clearly does not know what he is talking about to claim better low light performance on an IPhone 3. I use an IPhone 4 and low light is poor. Unless Apple lost it completely from the 3 to the 4?

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Annandale

I own the Canon 70D and did a lot of research before making the purchase in November. Here is what the researchers recommend: For still photography the Nikon D7100 is the camera of choice, for video the Canon EOS 70 D. The lens also have a lot to do with image quality as well, so bear that in mind. I would recommend you do some additional research on the two cameras.

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AlexPuddephatt

Seriously, I'd suggest you go pick one up and handle it. That'll probably make the difference in your buying choice.

I've got a 7D, and from what I've seen of the 70D reviews there's nothing that makes me think its any benefit for stills, particularly in low-light. If you're wanting video the 70D might be better processing (maybe).

Be really cautious over the online reviews comparing Canon / Nikon on this - from my choice a few months back I'd jsut suggest you're better renting or borrowing one - even if only for 10 minutes. Some of the personal use differences are that obvious but really difficult to describe

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dual12

The image quality rating does NOT match the samples. The rating is too high. Also, this camera has a long con list, too many to be winning a gold award.

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utomo99

Some cons can be fixed by firmware upgrade if canon want. But do they want to fix it or not?
Others might need new version

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Alsone1

Sounds good but needs 4K @ minimum of 30fps given that 4K tv's are now appearing everywhere albeit at a (fast reducing) cost.

Personally I couldn't spend this much money on something I feel is already out of date.

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Your Mom

Sorry to say, but you're completely clueless, especially with your "out of date" nonsense.
It's going to be a LONG time before 4K begins appearing in DSLR cameras, especially at THIS price point.
4K TVs are NOT appearing "everywhere". They're ridiculously expensive, there's absolutely ZERO content available in 4K right now, and a person would have to be completely out of their mind to spend $5000 on a TV that has no content.

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NewForce

Obviously you are one of those guy belong to "money has object", just like me. Btw, you can watch free 4K contents on YouTube. :-)

0 upvotes
utomo99

4k market still not yet ready. Maybe 2014 start.
Better to improve other important factor first

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mcurrens

Wouldn't a 4k TV with a resolution of 3840 × 2160 be much better for viewing those amazing 20mp photos than a 1080p monitor?

BTW the cheapest 4k monitor is ~$499 (39" Seiko) not $5000.

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olddog99

I bought a 52 inch projector Hi Def set 13 years ago while networks were still debating 720p vs1080i and oddly it's wound up at 1080p. DVD format was still debated, blu-ray vs HD - turns out DVDs have a hard time competing with Streaming. My early adopter friend spent $11,000 on a large screen plasma before the HDMI standard. And many said network obsession with high def was crazy because no market had been demonstrated. Whether there's a mass market for 4K might be argued, but broadcasters and other content providers buy equipment on replacement cycles and 4K was high on the industry list at NAB shows with a lot of gear aimed at that segment, from production, sending, transmission, editing to receive end. I wouldn't try to call a cycle on it, but 4k would be is immense use in a significant number of areas outside consumer demand. It's coming quicker to affluent consumers that we believe. Some cinema cameras, Red, Black Magic, already there for quite a while.

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Zerixos

Get yourself a new PC first, 4K video will be a pain in the ass to render at just a consumer level computer. To do this at a accepteble speed you'll need a PC dubbel the price of this camera, at least.

0 upvotes
purest

Most tv is not even broadcast at full hd. Let alone 4K.
I don't even think its possible to buy a 4k movie yet.

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AndzSA

Hoping for some advice. I have 1000D and have used it for the last 5 years with limited issues - had to have the shutter replaced as it stripped. I shoot school sports predominantly, so it gets a great workout in the busy season. But also shoot portraits/groups, landscapes, travel and starting to doing more dance/wedding photography. Have 18-55, 18-250 HSM & 70-300 lens, but the 18-250 is what I use mostly.
While I love my 1000D, I feel limited especially with the portraits and groups in low light, I realise a F2.8 lens would be a great option, would an upgrade to 70D be as good an option based on the versatility of what I shoot?

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Rodrigo Montoya

I got the Canon 70D. It's a great camera and it do a great job on low light situations. For sports, the 7fps are really good. If you shoots JPGs, you can take a lot of shoots before get stuck with the buffer. I recommend to you to take that f2.8 lens. For people shoots, I recommend the Sigma 17-70 f2.8 lens. Greetings

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Richard Kwon

The 2.8 lens will help in low light situations, but you don't want to shoot 2.8 for a group shot. You do need a 2.8 for sports, and make sure the camera has good af tracking such as 7d or the 1d for sports. I'm not sure how the 70d does on af tracking. You can pick up a used 7d for around $800 (US) on ebay, but the high iso is not that good compare to the new bodies. Good luck.

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purest

buy a fast lens!

lenes hold there value much better than the bodies do. get a 50mm 1.8 or a 30mm 1.4 sigma.

much cheaper than a new body.

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Dirk1966DE

Just found this interactive website of Canon JP:
http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eos70dshootingguide/style/index.html

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kanardo

Hello,

I hesitate between the canon 70D or the panasonic GX7 camera.
I like how look like the GX7 but my main criteria is the photo quality and the park lenses.
What advice would you give me and why ?

Thanks

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12345ccr

You should never buy a camera based on looks. Plus, by my experience, DSLR is generally better.

0 upvotes
Marcio Everson

Tenho a Canon 70D há 1 mês e estou satisfeito com os resultados do autofoco.

1 upvote
Brooks11

so far I've used my 400 DO and my 70-200 F2.8 ii - and they are bang on. I got this body for long lenses and as a compliment my 5D M3. which is for shorter focal lengths.

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intuos

I tried 6 lenses and 2 bodies and they all front focused. I loved the camera otherwise, but had to return it because I need the focus to work when not in live view. (This is the eyepiece focus system that seems to have an issue). In addition it seems the problem changed over temperature of the camera body.
Have others tested this with different lenses?
I offered Canon to find one that doesn't do this and I'd buy it... they did not take me up on that.

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GeeIyer

Intuos,

Could you be more clear about - (This is the eyepiece focus system that seems to have an issue)?

70Ds conventional tracking AF is pretty good, but the Dual AF goes well only with the live mode.

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utomo99

Can you explain more about the over temperature body? What is the problems? When it happens?

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tongki

Dirk,
make your time more usefull by stop mentioning about silly thing like AF micro adjustment,
especially when all the lenses that you mentioned is just A TOY

I am sorry,
didn't realize, you were showing off your AWESOME LENS collection on your comment,
think we should respect that

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Dirk1966DE

AF micro ajustment

i ve tested my lenses and found only the Ef 50 1,8 II having the need to adjust by value 10 in the lens by lens adjustment menue. And only for macro and portrait with 1,8~3,5 aperture used.

My others 15-85 usm, 10-22 usm and ef-s 55-200 haven't shown this sensitiv issue.

Hello other 70d owners, did anyone recognized lenses in his basket having the need of adjustment ? Only lenses above 2,8 ?

Anyway, compared to my 40d the 70d is incredible having more details. this gives preshure for better lenses ! Microadjustment seems to be linked to age of lenses as well, right! (the 50/1.8 is developed ages ago for approx 12mbit sensors and acording number of resolution lines) .

Canon should place a testcard for buyers into the package, so they can compare with others and more easy adjust AF. Phase detection delivers incredible sharp pictures.

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Dirk1966DE

Wifi Functions nowadays.

Canon 70D have a pretty Wifi function
6 features today within the firmware:
. Transfer images between cameras (?)
. Smartphone App Mode
. PC/MAC EOS Utility
. WLAN Print
. Internet Image Gateway (Web Service)
. DLNA (TV Mediacenter mode)

Looking for the amount of data and pictures we now can take and how risky it is to travel weeks or even months with such a pretty camera i am missing a WLAN Backup function very strongly !
If you would like to have a WLAN Backup function as well, hit LIKE. Maybe someone from Canon read this.

I have a WIFI DISK from transcent which i can access from PC or Ipad or Mac even on the go, having Akku inside. Mapping is easy by IP-adress.
Security is done by the wifi settings. It would be pretty to have the posibility to transfer all or folders to such a WIFI disk on the go during long trips.
Reminding never put all eggs into one basket the WIFI disk is in the car or in hotel safe.

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Peter Marchant

About the Electronic Level in 70D.

I can't get the electronic level displayed in either the VF or the screen while shooting.

I refer to Page 65-66 of the full Manual. I've set Menu 1 to Show the level and Spanner 3 has INFO button display options all ticked.

If I open the screen and press Info, the full-size level shows on the screen, but not in VF. That might be helpful if the camera was on a tripod, but not otherwise.

If I engage Live View (and half-press shutter button), no level is shown, either in VF or on screen. There should be a small camera icon with lines each side to confirm the camera is level - presumably superimposed on subject image.

Is there a fault with my camera? What am I doing wrong? Thanks

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Dirk1966DE

Menu/ShootingSettingI=Viewfinder level=Show
In Liveview , due to my seetings , i have to press INFO button 2 or 4 times. But if "Level" is choosen it reminds, even if you switch LV off and on. In menu SetupSettingIII=INFO button display options i choosed only "Display Shooting functions", and in Customisation Buttons via Q-button i have changed SET from OFF to MENU. (in this case the Green self custom menue is shown!). Hope this helps for new starters, I have the 70D since early september, upgrading from 40D.

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Schmalan

Question about video auto-exposure... Coming from a T2i/550D, and it's been my experience that the T2i video AE works by increasing/ decreasing ISO. This is non-optimal situation for me as darker environments result in very noisy footage as it ramps up past 800 ISO. Can anybody confirm whether this is the AE scheme with 70d? Or whether it is configurable? I'd like to be able to define, say, shutter speed or aperture as the go-to AE effector.

Follow-up question: Any subjective comments on low-light performance of video in 70d vs. T2i? Specifically interested in quality at/ above ISO 800.

Thanks,

Al

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Dirk1966DE

For Photos within CFn1-6 Safty Shift can be set to Disable/Shutterspeed+Aperture/IsoShift. But only in M mode of Video you control Shutter Speed. Remind that to short or too long shutter speed in video may not fit. As the camera needs to take some pictures within a second. Depending on your settings. Priority for you is Aperture in Video and in any mode you can shift by wheel the two parameters. But ISO shift needs to be done by camera. It would'nt create a stop motion movie with 3 pictures in a second. Look for lowlight video Samples in youtube.

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vermas

I currently have Canon Rebel Xsi ( 450 D) and I am planning to upgrade. My main motivation for the upgrade is to have better low light photographs, essentially lower noise while using high ISO.

Question: How much better 70D compared to Rebel Xsi (450 D) ?

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igor_s

You can check it yourself either on DxOMark (compare SNR 18% charts) or in the 70D review by DPR (compare the test shots at higher ISOs).

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Sdaniella

btw, folks
Canon Korea (2013 Nov) has a teaser EOS M
that has a mini-dSLR shape

it may have dual pixel AF like the 70D

most likely have a fixed touchscreen, but I prefer vari-angle swivel screen instead like 70D

here: shows enhanced pic, too
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52489376

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yabokkie

would prefer a grip like NEX but fits better in hand
would prefer a flat top, no flash needed, dilemma about EVF.

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nuke6666

Its white kiss ;) check canon jap fb page. ;)

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pixperfect

It seems Canon cameras are getting better and better.

EOS 50D - Magnesium body
EOS 60D - Aliminum body
EOS 70D - Plastic body

Am I missing something?

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evogt500

60D was plastic as well. Both 60D and 70D have metal chassis.

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tongki

so stupid if you think that way,
I am using 1D mark IV for several years and like that new cameras are getting lighter,
what's the point of aluminium or magnesium body ?
you sell it after 2 or 3 years,
plastic body make it lighter and that's a good thing

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ciscotoy

Still living in the 20th century dude? When cars were made of metal with solid bumpers? Sorry but cars in this era are much better and made from plastic...

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Alex Moscow

This conclusion page is a great example of diplomacy: lots of secondary points, like handling etc., and nothing about pictures relative quality.
Should we read it "nothing to boast"?
Nikon 7100 in this reviews shows better picture at the same price level, then - what we buy cameras for?

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shehab

thanks so mach jest i want to now how i take photos in camera 7D and camping in mac book pro as same time i taking photos

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chiumeister

what about when subjects approach you?

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ConnieE

I shoot a 5DMarkiI (people and Macros). I would like a crop sensor for birds. I have been waiting for the replacement of the 7D.

1) would the 70D be a good choice

OR wait?

2. Do you have a guess what the option difference might be?

3. Any idea what the price might be on the 7D replacement.

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igor_s

I think there is absolutely nothing better about 70D vs 7D in this respect. Picture quality is about the same, viewfinder size is the same or even smaller (you can check), burst rate is not higher, phase-detect AF is not better, body is plastic (7D - metal). Well, it has 20K pixels vs 18K in 7D but I will bet that nobody can tell the difference in a real shot. So, if you are not going to communicate with birds via WiFi...

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yabokkie

is not really crop sensor but pixel resolution and frame rate.
would wait a while, buy a 70D at low price while waiting for 7D2.

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Picturenaut

Or get a used 7D intermediately. If you do birding in rough environment, a 7D is the better choice, it is close to indestructible. Mine has survived a severe crash: tripod with Wimberley and 500 mm supertele toppled over and hit a sharp stone, with the 7D in front as cushion. I thought this massive bang would have killed the camera, but it just has a few marks now and still works without any problem.

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Ed P

Does the 70D have a sensor to turn off the screen when you bring the camera up to your eye to take a shot (like my T1i does)? I played with one at a store, and it didn't turn off (annoying). Worse, since it's a touch-screen, my cheek changed a setting when I went to take a picture! If this means I have to either disable the touch screen (or flip it around) to avoid this... no thanks!

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Daxs

You can activate - When you press shutter button half way, that will turn off your screen! Screen is on, screen is off!
Simple! Live and learn! :)

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Sdaniella

you can't use an OVF with the mirror up in liveview mode anyway !!!

logic: if you do use the OVF, it is no longer using the touch screen to preview the exposure or focus anyway !

lol

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yabokkie

EVF is coming, inevitably

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igor_s

Botom line: 70D would be the class leader 3 years ago, before D7000 and SLT A55 appeared. When its new AF system works much better there will be another talk and another comparison with its future rivals.

Though, Canon is unbeatable in ergonomics, lens choice/price and ... marketing.

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digitalanalog

Which one would you choose: New 5D MKII or 70D?

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naththo

Keep 5D MKII if you want to take better quality still picture due to FF sensor resolves more details than the APS-C sensor with good quality Canon lens. But if you are into videography then 70D would do using the real time AF because that camera has phase detection built in CMOS sensor for videography. To get good smooth video out of it, you need image stabiliser lens though as well anyway.

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digitalanalog

Thanx - sounds realistic.
What about the general video quality - is it comparable? And, would that 70D's AF really make such difference in video-making? (I suppose it depends on what you're shooting).
I own 5D MKII and I think I'll keep it... There are some plans for video too but I'm not 100% sure).

Do you think it would be better to invest (for video's sake only) in Blackmagic Cinema (pocket?) Camera instead?

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kerensky20

I would give points to the 70d for a few things
1. having a tilty-flippy LCD does give you alot of convenience, doing videos, over the 5d2
2. having much more reliable AF means you dont have to concentrate on composiing as well as focusing when shooting mundane scenes; you would still probably have to do manual focus pulling in certain scenes you want to shoot.
3. Since you already own canon lenses, it would be much more cost-savings for you than buying a BMCC/BMPCC. you could adapt lenses, but you'd get the best range using m43 lenses due to the crop ratio

I shot video for about 2 years, fulltime, and these were the gripes i had to content with for a long time. i honestly think the 70d is pretty good.

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jws1956

I am not a photographer but am looking for some help comparing this to the 5d mkII. Is this a step up, down, or just lateral?

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DPReview Staff

The 5D Mark II is a full-frame DSLR, this is an APS-C DSLR. Sensor size, and the resulting difference in focal length is a key differentiator. The 70D, for its part, has Dual Pixel AF, which, when shooting videos, is better than the contrast-detect AF available on the 5D II. The latter cannot autofocus smoothly while shooting video, whereas the 70D can.

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ThePhilips

After so many years of penalizing m43 for a lack of better sensor, the outdated IQ of the 70D didn't even made to the cons!

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Jon Ragnarsson

The review could be summed up: "It's a nice camera, it takes nice pictures... "

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blue hour

"a camera whose primary innovations revolve around providing smooth autofocus in video" without 4k recording in 2013.

On the other hand-4k recording is going to be Canons innovation in the 80 D.

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Shield3

Yep, as clearly there are so many hybrids out right now that shoot 4k. Oh wait, only one, the $12k 1DC. So why should an $1100 body do it too? Which Sony/Nikon/Panasonic/Pentax/Fuji shoot 4k again? Only option is the kludgey BMC, and it doesn't take stills at all, and it's $3k. Please don't mention crappy cell phones that do it - I'd take a 70d's 720 mode over that for actual detail and DOF control.

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skimble

It is what it is a great camera with a few minor issues compared to others and who knows they may tweak another few of this issues with the next FW update to start of with its ok GOLD reward I think its a bid high also I bought this camera :-)

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Scott Eaton

Looking at the comparison shots objectively I'm not sure how anybody working on a real monitor can't see the improvements over the 7D and 60D. Those saying it's not improvement over the 60D need to stop surfing with their Androids and use a real computer. Color accuracy has also improved with the 70D...something 7D fanatics don't comprehend.

What's also obvious is while the 70D has made substantial improvement with high ISO noise the camera lags the 7100 by a rather substantial margin in all other areas, especially just plain detail. Typical 'smudgy' Canon sensor detail...no surprise.

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naththo

Your post is clearly a flaming/defamation against everyone here.

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Lewton Cole

Gee, hope your response to Scott Eaton was very much tongue in cheek, because what he said makes a LOT of sense....

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Dougbm_2

Scott. But in RAW the detail is close to the 7100. It is lost in the jpgs due to Canons NR and low sharpness setting. See CNET's video review. The 7100 has no AA filter so should show more detail and does but not by much. Also with no AA filter there will be moire problems at times when photographing grid patterns etc

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rfstudio

Canon...canon...the shape is just getting uglier

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audiomarc

It's not what it looks like. It's how it feels in your hands.

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naththo

Canon isn't the only one rfsudio...try Nikon big fat D800 body size. Now thats ugly piece of camera. But it just a camera. Why not get over and harden up with the design. It just the camera, the design way to hold the camera with your hands, feel comfortable with good hand grip, design where button should go, where plug should go, where sd card should go etc.

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Alec_c

... and feels bad in hand! Cramped body, no space between grip and lens, smaller buttons, unusable 8-way controller. poc! The screen is the only one to mention as a plus. I am amazed of how much discussion is around different aspects of IQ (not stellar anyway) when something much more basic as handling is passed.

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Sad Joe

Well love it or hate it ( and I could do both as I use BOTH Canon & Nikon) I see the 70D as the new class leader - even if in some areas Nikon or Sony etc can out weight it or deliver more - OVERALL the 70D is where the money will be going and Canon will still remain way ahead in total sales. Frankly Canon lost its way with the 50D/60D and the 7D was far from perfect (still a lovely camera anyone bored of their is free to pass it on too me) but the 70D is / will be the market leader...

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