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Sony DSC RX100 Hands-on Preview

June 2012 | By Richard Butler & Barnaby Britton


Preview based on a production DSC-RX100

Despite the availability of comparatively small, large-sensor mirrorless cameras (at increasingly low prices), the enthusiasts' compact boom has continued. Most of the big names in the industry now offer models to appeal to people comfortable with a a DSLR but wanting something easier to carry around. The RX100, Sony's first venture into this market since 2004 (with the DSC-V3) is something altogether more serious.

Key Features:

  • 1" Exmor CMOS sensor
  • 20.9 million effective pixels
  • 28-100mm (equiv), f/1.8-4.9 Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* lens with 'Advanced Aspherical' element
  • Steady-Shot image stabilization
  • Contrast-detection AF with 25 points, including tracking and flexible spot options
  • ISO 125-6400 (ISO 80 and 100 expansion, up to 25,600 using multi-frame noise-reduction)
  • Face Recognition and Face Registration (up to 8 faces)
  • Rear control dial and customizable front 'Control Ring'
  • 10fps continuous shooting in 'Speed Priority' mode
  • 3in, 1228.8K-dot 'WhiteMagic' LCD screen
  • 13 Picture Effects with 27 variations
  • Memory Recall feature can store up to three groups of custom settings
  • 1080 60p video (AVCHD) with MP4 option
  • Built-in stereo microphone
  • 330-shot battery life (CIPA)

A small camera with a big sensor

A 1" sensor is twice as large as the sensor in the Fujifilm X10 and two-and-a-third times larger than most of the rest of the class. The only comparable camera to offer a sensor larger is the Canon G1 X, which offers impressive image quality but with the payoff being bulkier styling and the larger dimensions demanded by its near-DSLR-sized sensor. Sony says the 'R' in the camera's name is intended to evoke its original high-grade fixed-lens camera, the DSC-R1, though the only similarities between the two are the ability to capture Raw image data and the ambition of their designs.

In general you can divide the enthusiasts' compact sector by body style, with the Canon S100 exemplifying the conventional compact style and the G12 representing the more bulky, dial-encrusted choices with tunnel-style optical viewfinder. Sony has chosen to go down the compact route and opted for a lens that slows considerably as you zoom in, rather than the bright zooms offered by the Olympus XZ-1, Panasonic LX5 and Fujifilm X10. This is the same balance Canon has chosen with its popular S100, but of course that doesn't have a sensor anywhere near as large as the RX100's.

Despite the large sensor, the RX100 is still pocketable. It's not the smallest compact camera on the market, but it'll fit in breast pocket of a jacket, making it a genuine carry-around second camera for DSLR owners. In principle, at least, the RX100 shouldn't present the same image-quality compromise that switching across to one of the existing compact cameras would.

The specification is pretty impressive - a 20MP 1" sensor, a 1.2 million dot 3.0" LCD (VGA resolution but using Sony's WhiteMagic technology to offer greater brightness or improved battery life), 1080i60 video capture with the ability to shoot a 17MP stills without interrupting movie recording. There's a Zeiss-branded 28-100mm equivalent F1.8-4.9 lens featuring Zeiss T* coatings to minimize internal reflection. The camera can even boast a respectable 330 shots from a charge, according to CIPA tests.

Shooting for the enthusiasts

The RX100's user interface makes very clear that Sony has concentrated on making a camera that enthusiasts will be happy with. The difference between this and the Nikon 1 models (and the Sony NEX cameras when they were first launched), with their beginner-focused interfaces, couldn't be more stark. The RX100 doesn't go overboard with manual controls but the now commonplace lens-encircling control dial is key to its usability. It also has a customizable function menu - allowing you to specify which settings you want quick access to, and in which order. This is similar to the customization options added to NEX cameras but is also reminiscent of the Ricoh control interface (still probably our favorite on high-end compact).

And these differences from the entry-level mirrorless cameras are telling. Clearly Sony believes there is a photographically-savvy audience out there that wants a second camera with good image quality but without having to battle against a simplistic user interface or invest in what is probably a second lens system. It's pretty clear it also hopes that some buyers wanting to move up from conventional compacts will prefer something small and will recognise themselves as part of a majority who wouldn't buy other lenses even if they bought an interchangeable lens camera. The RX100's $650 price tag may well work against this, though.

Isn't that a bit expensive?

To put this price in perspective, you have to really understand the sensor size and what it means for the camera's capabilities.

The sensor in the RX100 is the same 1" format that Nikon uses in its 1-System. It is considerably smaller than those used in most interchangeable lens cameras but it significantly larger than those used in most enthusiast compacts.

To do this, the table below shows it against its peers, showing the area of the sensor, the size of the camera and the effective aperture of the camera. This last figure gives an idea of how much control over depth-of-field the camera will offer, by relating the aperture ranges back to the 135 film standard.

  Price (MSRP) Sensor area, mm2
(dimensions)
Focal length range Focal length range (equiv.) Aperture range Aperture range (equiv.)* Dimensions, mm(bounding box**)
Sony DSC-RX100 $649 116
(13.2x8.8)
10-37mm 28-100mm F1.8-4.9 F4.9-13.4 101x58x36
(210cm3)
Canon G1 X $799 262
(18.7x14)
15-60mm 28-112mm F2.8-5.8 F5.2-10.7 117x78x65
(593cm3)
Olympus XZ-1 $499 41***
(7.4x5.5)
6.0-24mm 28-112mm F1.8-2.5 F8.5-11.8 111x65x42
(303cm3)
Fuji X10 $599 58
(8.8x6.6)
7.1-28mm 28-112mm F2.0-2.8 F7.9-11 117x70x57
(467cm3)
Canon S100 $429 42
(7.4x5.6)
5.2-26mm 24-120mm F2.0-5.9 F9.3-27.4 99x60x27
(160cm3)
Nikon1 J1 $649 116
(13.2x8.8)
10-30mm 27-82mm F3.5-5.6 F9.5-15.3 106x61x72
(464cm3)
Olympus E-PM1 $499 225
(17.3x13)
14-42mm 28-84mm F3.5-5.6 F7-11.2 110x68x84
(628cm3)
Nikon D3200 $699 358
(23x15.4)
18- 55mm 27-83mm F3.5-5.6 F5.4-8.7 125x96x149
(1788cm3)

* Effective aperture, in 135 film terms - this gives an idea of the depth of field control offered by the lenses when the sensor size is taken into account.
** The sum of each camera's longest dimensions (the volume of the smallest box that could contain the camera, with the lens retracted)
*** Figure takes into account that the XZ-1 uses a crop from a 1/1.63" sensor.


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edotgm
By edotgm (11 months ago)

Does it support usb in-body charging? Would be great!

1 upvote
R Butler
By R Butler (11 months ago)

It does. And comes with a 1.5A charger plug, for faster USB charging. I'll add a bit about this in a minute.

2 upvotes
carlos roncatti
By carlos roncatti (11 months ago)

Question for dpreview reviewers...how does the zoom works when used with the front control ring? it seems that its not possible to have step zoom, like the S90 and the LX5 and all ricoh cameras, but is it easy to at least leave a favorite Flenght on the memory?(custom) like 35mm EQ? thanks...

0 upvotes
R Butler
By R Butler (11 months ago)

You're right, it doesn't step between classic focal lengths. It works in tiny discrete steps (because it's a stepped zoom), and has 28, 35, 50, 70 and 100mm equiv marked, so you can consistently get back to the same point.

Focal length doesn't appear to be one of the parameters saved for Memory Recall.

2 upvotes
carlos roncatti
By carlos roncatti (11 months ago)

Thank you Richard....

0 upvotes
OldDigiman
By OldDigiman (11 months ago)

Pity about the 20MP sensor. For that size sensor, 12 mp with more DR would have been a better choice, IMO

4 upvotes
zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (11 months ago)

True. Though noise performance and sharpness is good, the images look flat. I guess I'll still be sticking with my quirky 4.7MP cam for more DR scenes.

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spidermoon
By spidermoon (11 months ago)

From the sample, there is a good DR, the truck, with reflexion on bumper, white store on the backgroud and black tire are a good sample, the house with green plamtree and white wall too But i'ts seems there is some shadow enhancement and noise reduction applied, giving less detail in shadow, i suppose it's the price to paid for 20mpx sensor. I'm impatient to see what raw files gives :)

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peevee1
By peevee1 (11 months ago)

Does it support UHS-I? 20 mpix RAW just demands it.

0 upvotes
carlos roncatti
By carlos roncatti (11 months ago)

According to IR review, the raw writing times are "blazing fast"

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spidermoon
By spidermoon (11 months ago)

IR test the camera with a SanDisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s UHS-1 SDHC card (what a lengthy name :). And results are good, it's one of the few camera thaht makes full use of such speedy cards.

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JackM
By JackM (11 months ago)

Awesome, but does Sony have to pay Canon royalties for the design?

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Michele Kappa
By Michele Kappa (11 months ago)

Naaah, they go to Nikon, actually...

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ARTASHES
By ARTASHES (11 months ago)

Canon? just compare the shape with Nikon J1

0 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (11 months ago)

What design?

2 upvotes
spidermoon
By spidermoon (11 months ago)

And the name too :) S100 vs RX100 ;)

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JackM
By JackM (11 months ago)

Yes Canon. Neither J1 nor P300 have the control ring.

0 upvotes
Carlos AF Costa
By Carlos AF Costa (11 months ago)

I like it. Very good spec for a real compact camera. It doesn´t compete with my Canon G1X, wich has a larger sensor and a fantastic image, but has a true compact it might be my first choice for a second camera

1 upvote
Ah Pek
By Ah Pek (11 months ago)

Can't beat the Pen with a 14mm pancake and 45mm 1.8. Pen is just as portable with the pancake and the 45mm blows away the Sony for bokeh. In normal use, this Sony is going to be no different than any compacts i.e. massive depth of field.

0 upvotes
jorg14
By jorg14 (11 months ago)

Strange, some of us like massive depth of field. We even get stacking software to extend it.

4 upvotes
plasnu
By plasnu (11 months ago)

Perfect for LX5 replacement.

1 upvote
Valentinian
By Valentinian (11 months ago)

No... I am keeping the LX5, and got a OM D E M-5 to go with it.
(only if one doesn't have a LX5- or similar- then maybe yes, this large sensorSony looks like a very nice little camera)

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zapatista
By zapatista (11 months ago)

Mr. Butler, I have to say....I'm LOVIN' that Blazer....Love.....LOVE!!!

2 upvotes
Liz Z.
By Liz Z. (11 months ago)

To me the images look a bit too smooth--lacking a certain crispness.

0 upvotes
spidermoon
By spidermoon (11 months ago)

We must wait for raw, maybe it's the jpeg engine, maybe the high pixels count and noise reduction, maybe be low in camera sharpen.

0 upvotes
Peter G
By Peter G (11 months ago)

Awesome.... This is what this sensor size is made for.

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i-Dongle
By i-Dongle (11 months ago)

This is what I dreamed of!

0 upvotes
Mannypr
By Mannypr (11 months ago)

Colors seem well balance . Contrast seems a bit lackiing . Sharpness is ok at low iso but the higher it gets the softer the details . Seems that the noise reduction is rather agresive .

0 upvotes
EasyClick
By EasyClick (11 months ago)

There aren't many photo samples at F1.8... That was a main selling point. But at 649$ ??? How do they price these things... Maybe 400$ would be more realistic for a compact.

0 upvotes
CFynn
By CFynn (11 months ago)

The price of compact cameras tends to drop pretty quick.

2 upvotes
LordGriNz
By LordGriNz (11 months ago)

Almost perfect, but why not 24mm wide?!?!?!

4 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (11 months ago)

I'm relieved that it doesn't go to 24mm. This was the first thing I looked for because it would mean soft corners. At 28mm, they may be able to pull it off, even such a compact lens.

3 upvotes
LordGriNz
By LordGriNz (11 months ago)

The first thing I look for is 24mm wide, I won't live without it anymore, so if a camera lacks it.....then it goes on the pass list.

1 upvote
CFynn
By CFynn (11 months ago)

The "sweep panorama" feature compensates for that

0 upvotes
photofan1986
By photofan1986 (11 months ago)

Those samples look great! And no orbs, moreover! I just bought an X10 and send it for repair (sensor replacement). Hope I won't regret it...

0 upvotes
iampivot
By iampivot (11 months ago)

Orbs in DSC01194, look at the highlights in the car grille.

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Frenske
By Frenske (11 months ago)

Interesting little camera. I hope they will improve the lens range since you can't change lens. 28mm is a bit too tele for me when going on holidays and I shoot a lot of architecture and landscape. A 24-120mm would be great if it doesn't affect the IQ.

3 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (11 months ago)

But it will affect the image quality. These camneras go through an evolution. They start out with a 28mm wide end that's pretty decent. Then, consumers want 24mm so they extend the range to 24mm and the corners are soft.

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EddyKilowatt
By EddyKilowatt (11 months ago)

For wide architecture and landscape shots, try image stitching software like Image Composite Editor. It really does a remarkable job. I won't claim that wide lenses are obsolete, but these days you can get the same composition with two or more non-wide images, and some post processing. Provided your subject's not moving of course... ;-)

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Brooks Lester
By Brooks Lester (11 months ago)

Nice jacket, Simon! I think my grandmother had that same pattern on one of her couches. (Just kidding - the jacket is stylish, no doubt)

Interesting camera, the RX100; it may be the middle ground between an S100 and X10 - pocketable like and S100 but with an even larger sensor than the not-really pocketable X10. However, I'm going to bet the RX100 won't have Fuji color. I'm not eBaying my X10 yet, but I might get the RX100 over the S100 if I buy a smaller camera than the X10.

1 upvote
Khizer
By Khizer (11 months ago)

I would not recommend the Canon S100 to anyone. I bought mine in Feb this year. It was taking fantastic shots, and then suddenly developed the infamous lens error fo r which the Powershot series is notorious. Repair costs 80% of the camera price, so I have put it away.

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Michael Ma
By Michael Ma (11 months ago)

I wish they kept it to a respectable 12mp and kept the noise down more. The last thing you want to carry with this thing is a fill flash. Seriously, 20mp?

2 upvotes
ARTASHES
By ARTASHES (11 months ago)

Resize the 20mp to 12mp with good algorithm and the noise will be the same as if it was 12mp native sensor

3 upvotes
RicksAstro
By RicksAstro (11 months ago)

Did you look at the ISO6400 sample? Even at 100% is looks awesome, but resize to 12mp and it's phenomenal! And at the lowest ISOs, the per pixel sharpness is quite good for jpgs

The latest sensors no longer trade pixel density for overall image noise. The smaller pixels allow you to make the trade yourself in post, which I think is ideal. I also have a D800, and the performance of that sensor is in no way, shape, or form a compromise despite its huge mpix count.

1 upvote
wb2trf
By wb2trf (11 months ago)

The noise would not be lower if they lowered the pixel count to 12mp, when the resultant image is viewed at any set image size.

1 upvote
Martin_Kay
By Martin_Kay (11 months ago)

As has been said/inferred, the average potential buyer won't need the extra resolution. I personally welcome these compact cameras with higher IQ but to be honest unless you are printing your work what's the point?

0 upvotes
JesperMP
By JesperMP (11 months ago)

I am very surprised how small the RX100 is. Almost as small as S100, and with similar lens spec, but with a much bigger sensor inside.
Rellay like the smallness and that it has an integral lens cap. Makes for easily stowing away in your jacket or a pouch in your computer bag.
It is a camera you can really bring along always.

I would have liked just a little bit of grip. Cant see why we cant have a grip that doesnt potrude further out than the lens when powered off. That wouldnt have compromised the smallness of the camera.

5 upvotes
??ad?µ????
By ??ad?µ???? (11 months ago)

I`m curious how "responsive focus speed" translates in real world usability. You know, low light and stuff... Because, the IQ is pretty impressive. I cannot appreciate DR just from those samples, tough.

2 upvotes
mu55
By mu55 (11 months ago)

Very nice, small & stylish - can't wait to see the RAW output

unfortunately i'm spoiled by the files from my 5n and 5D3 - and while it looks MUCH better than any other point and shoot - it just misses the cut, might have been better at 16mp - or maybe it's a lens thing, just looks alittle muddy in the fine detail department - hope the RAW solves this - if it does - i'll be first in line :)

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Breen
By Breen (11 months ago)

I can say only one word.. WOW!

3 upvotes
emircruz
By emircruz (11 months ago)

Thats seriously compact (considering the sensor size)!

I wonder if the xz-1 replacement would be as small. If not, here's hoping to 4/3 sized sensor.. but thatll never happen.. the optics would just be too big - unless it has single focal length.

On another note.. wish they weathersealed these enthusiast compacts so you can take them anywhere.

3 upvotes
Ray Maines
By Ray Maines (11 months ago)

I really hadn't thought of that before now, but you're quite right about weather sealing. This type of camera is likely to be used in the rain, on a boat, or carried in a sweaty shirt pocket and needs the protection more than a DSLR

1 upvote
Couscousdelight
By Couscousdelight (11 months ago)

I need a compact camera with a wide sensor, but i didn't need 20mpxls...
Too bad, it looks like a nice camera.

0 upvotes
ET2
By ET2 (11 months ago)

n/a

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (11 months ago)

Then dont use them. You can scale down.

2 upvotes
Jokica
By Jokica (11 months ago)

NEX-F3 (with kit lens) - 600$
RX100 - 650$
NEX-5n (with kit lens) - 700$ (I paid mine 650$ :-))
SONY has filled all gaps and has camera for everyone needs. Bravo!

5 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (11 months ago)

E-PM1 dual kit with 14-42 AND 40-150 - $499. Twice the sensor, 3 times the range, faster focusing and ability to install a faster/wider/longer lens if needed.

0 upvotes
tokyojerry
By tokyojerry (11 months ago)

Yeah, and the NEX camera has APS-C sized sensors which are larger by about a factor of 16x over the compact 'mom-and-pop' type of PS cameras with 1/2.3" sensors. The new Sony however is still an improvement by an increase in sensor size of about 4x over the mom-and-pop cameras. The NEX with a pancake (16mm, f1.8) in the kit is not a bad deal, comparatively speaking.

3 upvotes
RicksAstro
By RicksAstro (11 months ago)

That EPM1 kit has slower lenses and worse ISO performance, both conspiring to make it a worse low light kit.

3 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (11 months ago)

RicksAstro, you cannot tell anything about "worse ISO performance", after all this sensor is just a half of m43.

0 upvotes
R Thornton
By R Thornton (11 months ago)

Finally, a step in the right direction. A small, reasonably fast-performing, versatile compact camera with wide, fast, sharp zoom lens, bigger sensor, presumably nice HD video, all wrapped in good looks... what's not to like? It is a quite cleverly balanced little thing. Areas to improve include constant maximum aperture and price - 650 € is steep. Improve on that a bit, and then we are talking!

1 upvote
shaocaholica
By shaocaholica (11 months ago)

Ooooo it has 24p. How about manual video controls?

0 upvotes
tokyojerry
By tokyojerry (11 months ago)

Move on up to a higher level camera.

0 upvotes
chrisnfolsom
By chrisnfolsom (11 months ago)

I agree in that much of the processing and choices seem to be software - the hardware is there, but to protect the rest of the line they "seem" to just not allow the choices - how about 720p@60p or vga @ 240hz - which is great for checking your golf swing...

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MichaelEchos
By MichaelEchos (11 months ago)

Nice. Let's hope it scores higher than the J1/V1 sensor in DxOMark, and also lower it's price slightly. I also don't mind it being slightly larger too as long as the effective aperture increases, especially on the long end. Also, I'd like to see it having a lower ISO. At this pixel count and sensor size, the base ISO should be lower too, at least 50, but 25 should be possible.

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bobbidog
By bobbidog (11 months ago)

Sample shot DSC01165 (the one with the two birds) - is this really an ISO 125 example? I am a bit disappointed concerning all the smearing and loss of detail ...

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bman67
By bman67 (11 months ago)

The file has a 2x digital zoom applied. You can see it in the full exif. It's obviously the "Clear image zoom" or whatever it is called. If you scale it down 50% you see it has just the same detail as other low ISO shots.
Frankly, I am just amazed at the detail that this thing captures at low ISO.
And check the low light ISO 2500/3200 portraits. For an out of camera JPEG that is just too cool (for the size of course). Good job SONY!

3 upvotes
TristanW
By TristanW (11 months ago)

DSC00141 looks very sharp.

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bobbidog
By bobbidog (11 months ago)

Thank you bman for the info. In the office i am on a mac and can't study exif data. But i am going to download the file and "study" it.

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R Butler
By R Butler (11 months ago)

It is in the notes when you view the image. It is shot with 'Vlear Image Zoom.'

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zapatista
By zapatista (11 months ago)

25600 ISO in a 20mp camera with a pretty small sensor? Ah the Sony Cybershot love of smeary, over processed Noise Reduction. Hopefully I'm wrong.

2 upvotes
Jens_G
By Jens_G (11 months ago)

Whish is where RAW comes in :)

1 upvote
zapatista
By zapatista (11 months ago)

I'm pretty sure their multi-shot/steady shot stuff at really high ISO will only be JPEG. However, if Sony can pull off RAW noise within 1-1.5 stops of a Nex5-N (say up to 3200 or 6400), I'll buy one.

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chrisnfolsom
By chrisnfolsom (11 months ago)

I agree here - hopefully they will allow adj of the processing as some images are more impressionistic than "real" in some of their cheaper lines - really unflattering compression.

0 upvotes
alexdpx
By alexdpx (11 months ago)

I just bought a Fuji X10. I love it . . . perfect for my needs and shooting style. The fast lens and "large" sensor are its best qualities making it capable of bokeh shots - something I doubt can be achieved with this new Cybershot. Yes teh RX100 has a larger sensor . . . but f/4.9 at the long end . . .

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (11 months ago)

You can get an idea about the cameras' relative abilities to deliver blurred backgrounds from the 'equivalent aperture' column in the table on page 1. From this there's minimal difference between the RX100 and X10; just 1/3 stop in favour of the latter.

2 upvotes
Rashkae
By Rashkae (11 months ago)

You *do* understand the equivalent apertures are similar, right? And that there's no such thing as "bokeh shots" and only n00bs who listen to salespeople too much use the term "bokeh shot"?

Learn what bokeh actually means. It's NOT the same as "blurred background".

3 upvotes
zapatista
By zapatista (11 months ago)

@Rashkae, you are referring to the "quality/rendering" of the background blurring when talking of bokeh?

Comment edited 24 seconds after posting
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jonpaul47
By jonpaul47 (11 months ago)

Does it overheat in video mode after about 10 minutes like the Nex 5N and Nex 7?

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Hugo600si
By Hugo600si (11 months ago)

You might want to get your nex-7 and 5n checked if they overheat in 10 minutes. My 7 certainly does not overheat, not even my a77 has had the issue (still pending hot summer weather on that one though, max I've used it in is 34c, but in those temps I do not shoot test video's and real video's in my case do not consist of shots over max 2 minutes)

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CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (11 months ago)

Good work, Sony.

The sensor size is right smack in the middle between the G1x 1.5", the Micro 4/3 and the smaller Fujifilm X10 2/3" and Canon S100 1/1.7".

Nikon CX (1 series) and Sony RX100 now share the same size sensor where there used to be a great big gap. That gap has now been filled by no less than 2 players, with more brands to come into the fold, quite expectedly.

Now the battle will be in the User Interface System, which sadly (for both Nikon and Sony) Canon is still king. Fortunately, Canon has not yet stepped into this territory, so that's a great head start.

.

1 upvote
MichaelEchos
By MichaelEchos (11 months ago)

To me, I don't really care about sensor size, the thing that appeals me is sensor efficiency and effective aperture.

1 upvote
Jon Stern
By Jon Stern (11 months ago)

I can't wait to read the full review when it's posted in 6 months! ;)

3 upvotes
iL337P337
By iL337P337 (11 months ago)

LOL "TARDIS-like" would have sold me, especially if it came in blue!

Too bad about the tripod mount but I guess most people don't mount these.

Will it do full manual exposure settings for Video?

Thanks everyone (readers too) for the great site

Comment edited 54 seconds after posting
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Kim Seng
By Kim Seng (11 months ago)

Ah ha... Now Sony is moving into 1" sensor market trying to make a little bit of everything. I still like the Nikon 1 concept of the interchangable lens mirrorless camera. Maybe I like to compare with the Nikon J1 in term of how much it can offer to me and my needs.

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JEROME NOLAS
By JEROME NOLAS (11 months ago)

Looks great, IQ is great, this will be a huge success for Sony.

2 upvotes
bikebum
By bikebum (11 months ago)

seems like leapfrogs the competition in a number of stats (my favorite of all things is the built in lens cover :). very nice. but why no evf or at least a slot for adding one?!?! WHY?

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sadwitch
By sadwitch (11 months ago)

Cos it'll compromise the size? besides I think it's kinda awkward holding such a small sized camera to your eye while trying to change settings (worse if you're left master eyed) as your thumb will probably hit your nose.

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bikebum
By bikebum (11 months ago)

lots of people are using xz1 and lx5 with vf and loving it... its a matter of personal preference of course but for me shooting through a vf feels like "right". holding up the camera a couple feet away from your face squinting at a lcd is just less immersive, i feel less connected to what im doing and take crappier shots :)

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tkpenalty
By tkpenalty (11 months ago)

I don't think any of the NEX with its kit lens could produce as good images...

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Ketmeister
By Ketmeister (11 months ago)

Sample images looks good...even the higher ISO images are pretty impressive for such a small camera. I am very interested but price is overly ambitious. At $650...its up against mirrorless cameras. Granted its much smaller but how will it stand up in terms of image quality?

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Ivan Lietaert
By Ivan Lietaert (11 months ago)

Dpreview gives wrong information.
Is it f1.8-f4.9, as is in the comparison table.
Or is it f1.8-f5.9 as is in the specs table.

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R Butler
By R Butler (11 months ago)

4.9, as per the picture at the top of the page (and all the references in the text). I've updated the specs.

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cameramen
By cameramen (11 months ago)

just look at the pic: 4,9

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Mike99999
By Mike99999 (11 months ago)

The aperture varies f/1.8-4.9 as you zoom from 10.4mm to 37.1 mm. f/4.9 is the maximum aperture when fully zoomed in.

The aperture varies f/1.8-5.9 as you open and close the iris (I assume at 10.4mm). f/5.9 is the minimum aperture.

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rioachim
By rioachim (11 months ago)

IQ is better than xz-1 or not? I'm not talking about pixel detail, but color representation/ low light capabilities/ depth of field effect/ speed

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bobbidog
By bobbidog (11 months ago)

from the samples i can't tell about PQ compared to the XZ1. I am under the impression the new Sony has "problems" with resolving fine details. Look at all the smeared grass in the examples, furthermore there is quite an amount of noise even at iso 125. Wonder why dpreview didn't take a shot at base ISO of 100.
Concerning the XZ1 it will be quite difficult for the new sony to match those outstanding colors the XZ1 reproduces. I am exclusively shooting RAW on the XZ1 and the amount of detail the XZ1 retains is quite impressive. Especially fine textures such as grass or ground. We'll have to wait for the first RAWs of the Sony and how they differ in terms of quality form the JPGs ...

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ioshadha
By ioshadha (11 months ago)

I recently bought a XZ-1 hoping XZ-2 will not show up anytime soon. And then the news of RX100 pops up :)

I think RX100's optics capabilities would be below XZ-1. XZ-1 maintains F1.8 - F2.5 throughout the zoom range where as RX100 goes from F1.8 - F4.9, a big difference. I think XZ-1 achieve this with slightly larger physical build in lens components structure hence, the larger overall physical size as well compared to RX100 or Canon S100. And I would say XZ-1 lens are hard to beat. However, RX100 capabilities are yet to be seen.

The sensor is a different story. I think RX100 sensor is much better than XZ-1 regardless of the pixel density and sensor size. XZ-1's main bottleneck is the slight old/nosier sensor at high ISO settings. Interesting to see how RX100 would perform under ISO 400 compared to XZ-1. However, It would have been nice if RX100 settled for lower pixel count, something like 16MP or less.

All and all RX100 is a welcome addition to large sensor compact camera list.

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sadwitch
By sadwitch (11 months ago)

Nice but not so fond of the colours. It'll be perfect if the sensor is pair with lenses like the XZ-1 or LX-3.

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Alien from Mars
By Alien from Mars (11 months ago)

Of course, 20MP is a joke, the lens cannot resolve it (as you can see from the full size samples). 10-12MP would be enough.
What with the AF speed?

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Martin_Kay
By Martin_Kay (11 months ago)

20MP is a marketing ploy. Lets be brutely honest most of us could get away with 6MP- easily.

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ARTASHES
By ARTASHES (11 months ago)

Even at 100% samples are pretty sharp to me, of course you don't get twice as much details with 20mp that you would get with 10mp but still you have much more
to me then it had to have 48mp BSI sensor, and with 4 to 1 pixel binning you would get very sharp 12mp pics with much less noise thanks to using all potential of sensor surface by using BSI technology

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SammyToronto
By SammyToronto (11 months ago)

This larger sensor has a comparable pixel pitch to the Canon S100 or the Fuji X10, and the latter has a much faster lens at the long end of the zoom (all have similar apertures at the short end), so I don't see what the fuss is about. I wish Sony did like Nikon and kept the mega pixels at a reasonable level, but at 20mp I don't see much of an advantage for this new sensor over some of the competition.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (11 months ago)

People keep bashing the MP, but these samples look sharper than Nikon's 1" sensor.

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iL337P337
By iL337P337 (11 months ago)

Good point! Why use a larger sensor if they're just gonna use the same size pixels??? Shallower depth of field maybe?? Unrealistic print sizes? ...or just to be able to say "Mine's bigger on the inside" ;)

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technic
By technic (11 months ago)

more pixels could be an advantage in RAW processing for lens corrections and correcting camera shake etc. in PP. Even better if they manage to do things internally like with the Nokia 808, but I guess the Sony doesn't have the processing power for that. So ... depends on the quality of the RAW output if we will see a real advantage. A 'Zeiss' lens should be able to make good use of those 20 MP (the lens on the 808 is a prime, but it handles 39MP instead of just 20).

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (11 months ago)

These look GOOD. Download them full size and they just get better. I'm impressed.

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bradleyg5
By bradleyg5 (11 months ago)

Ultra fast lens, high ISO performance of a Nikon 1, truly pocketable = ultimate indoor party/social camera.

This spec wise seems to have the best combination of all the factors that make a great indoor casual camera.

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Ivan Lietaert
By Ivan Lietaert (11 months ago)

Large sensor? Let's not get too carried away with an 1'' sensor. Compared to an ASP-C, it is still very small. Lens is F1.8 - F5.9
These two factors make isolation of subject against a blurred background unsuccessful, except in macro-mode.

I hate it when dpreview is 'plugging' new cameras with the argument of a big sensor, while it is definitely not.
People who buy this camera will buy a dslr a year later, mark my words. A camera like this one is not expanding, but limiting creativity.

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memo90061
By memo90061 (11 months ago)

I want to buy a camera like this for concerts. I already have a DSLR.

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T3
By T3 (11 months ago)

Grow up. If it had an m4/3 sensor, people would complain that that's small compared to APS-C. If it had an APS-C sensor, people would complain that that's small compared to FF. A 1" sensor is definitely large compared to practically every other pocketable P&S camera out there. Any buffoon can see that.

To say that this product is "limiting" compared to a full-fledged DSLR system is ridiculously inane. Of course it's limiting compared to a DSLR. But many potential buyers of this camera already have DSLRs. Unfortunately, you can't put a DSLR into your pocket! So one can say that a DSLR is "limiting" because you can't carry a DSLR in your pocket, and thus you can't carry a DSLR into the same kind of environments that you can quite easily carry this tiny Sony. Lots of DSLR shooters want to have both a DSLR system, *plus* they want a tiny pocketable camera like the RX100.

Get real. This tiny Sony isn't meant to be a DSLR replacement. It's a supplement or complement.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (11 months ago)

THe sensor is downright gigantic compared to anything else that is this portable. Also, I bet most people who buy this camera already have a DSLR and want something pocketable with minor image quality compromises.

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iL337P337
By iL337P337 (11 months ago)

Everything said here is very true but I agree with Ivan, still too small for me. I draw the line at 4/3" with an undiffracted 2.8 100mm equivalent lens, until that's made into something that'll fit into my jean's pocket I'm fine sticking with my 1/2" sensor. Now be nice!

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technic
By technic (11 months ago)

it competes with cameras like S100, XZ1, LX5 etc. If the Sony offers clearly better image quality it will be an attractive product. The others are cheaper and probably a bit better for handling/control, but the Sony still seems a good choice if you want high image quality and flexibility in a very small package.

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