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Olympus OM-D E-M10 First Impressions Review

January 2014 | By Richard Butler
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Preview based on production Olympus OM-D E-M10

The Olympus OM-D E-M10 is the third camera in the company's OM-D range and represents another tier in the lineup - sitting below the E-M5 and the even more expensive E-M1.

The first of Olympus's OM-D models, the E-M5, impressed us a great deal when it was launched, and clearly struck a chord with our readers - comfortably winning our first annual 'camera of the year' poll. And the cause for the excitement? A combination of the best image quality we'd seen from a Four Thirds sized sensor and a well-considered set of controls that offerred an enthusiast DSLR-style experience in a much smaller body, were genuinely unprecedented. Overall it was the most complete and coherent mirrorless camera we'd seen up until that point.

The bad news is that, as the more basic model, the E-M10 doesn't push the series in many exciting new directions. But the more significant good news is that, with very few exceptions, the E-M10 offers almost everything the E-M5 did, plus a bit more, at a much lower starting price. Whereas the E-M5 debuted at a cost of around $999 body-only, the E-M10 will hit the market at around $699 (or $799 with the collapsible 14-42mm II R lens).

The story is slightly different in the UK, where Olympus is bundling the E-M10 with the tiny 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ power zoom lens that was announced at the same time. This kit will cost around £699, with a £529 price tag to buy it body-only. This means the body-only price is only around $30 more expensive than the US price, if VAT is removed to compare them on an equal footing.

OM-D E-M10 key features

  • 16MP Four Thirds CMOS sensor
  • Twin control dials
  • Built-in flash
  • 8 fps continuous shooting
  • Tilting 1.04M dot LCD touchscreen
  • 1.44m dot LCD viewfinder
  • Wi-Fi allowing remote control and file transfer to smartphones
  • Focus peaking
  • '3-axis' image stabilization

Looking through that list, you'll see that the E-M10 is essentially an un-weather-sealed E-M5 but with a better rear screen and the ability to easily send images off to a smart device. And, in use, that's a pretty accurate way of looking at things. But just looking at what's new or different risks downplaying how much is carried over from the E-M5.

Despite its fairly modest (mid-range DSLR level) pricing, the E-M10 retains not only a full twin dial control setup, giving you plenty of direct access to exposure settings, but also a touchscreen that helps make it quick to change secondary settings (gradation, white balance, ISO, etc.). As usual, Olympus hasn't made any moves to simplify or dumb-down its menu system, with all the advantages and disadvantages that brings.

Model
OM-D E-M10
OM-D E-M5
PEN E-P5
Sensor
16MP CMOS
16MP CMOS
16MP CMOS
Image processor
TruePic VII
TruePic VI
TruePic VI
Image stabilization
3-axis
5-axis
5-axis
Stabilization effectiveness (CIPA)
3.5 stops
~4 stops
~4 stops
Accessory Port?
No
Yes
Yes
Screen specifications
1.04m dot,
WVGA LCD
614k dot,
VGA equiv. OLED
1.04m dots
WVGA LCD
Electronic viewfinder
1.44m dot,
SVGA LCD
1.44m dot,
SVGA LCD
Optional
Built-in flash?
Yes
No
Yes
Wi-Fi?
Yes
No
Yes
Maximum shutter speed
1/4000 sec
1/4000 sec
1/8000 sec
X-Sync speed (external flash)
1/200 sec
1/200 sec
1/250 sec
Movie options
1080/30p MOV
up to 24Mbps
1080/60i MOV
up to 20Mbps
1080/60i MOV
up to 20Mbps
Battery life (shots/charge, CIPA)
320
360
330
Environmental sealing?
No
Yes
No

In the negative column, you can see that the E-M10 misses out on the E-M5's 5-axis stabilization - which means it's not quite as effective (particularly when shooting close-ups). The shutter mechanism, meanwhile, allows a maximum shutter speed of 1/4000th of a second, in contrast to the 1/8000 sec offered by Olympus's most recent models, the E-P5 and E-M1. The good news is that our preliminary testing suggests it isn't prone to the image shake that can occur with the PEN E-P5.

The E-M10 also does without an AP2 accessory port, but this isn't necessarily a huge drawback - with the exception of the SEMA-1 stereo mic option, most of the available accessories aren't terribly relevant for E-M10 owners. The little LED macro lights Olympus sells are a bit of fun (though hardly essential), and we can't see many people feeling the need to add viewfinders and Bluetooth transmitters to a camera with a built-in EVF and Wi-Fi.

However, the things the E-M10 adds are rather nice - the rear screen is a noticeable improvement, as is the inclusion of the 'Adaptive Brightness' viewfinder technology first introduced in the E-M1. This brightens and darkens the viewfinder panel, based on the ambient lighting conditions. As a result, the viewfinder ends up being bright in bright light without then being blinding in low light. It's a little thing (to the point that you don't necessarily notice it happening), but it helps provide a more OVF-like experience.

The Four Thirds concept has been the subject of much debate, right from launch, but in its Micro Four Thirds incarnation, it offers a combination of size and capability that sets it apart from its APS-C rivals. And, although we wouldn't expect a huge number of E-M10 owners to buy lots of extra lenses, there are a healthy number of comparatively affordable (circa $300) lenses available from Olympus and Panasonic.

Electronic zoom

In the UK, the E-M10 will be sold with the m.Zuiko 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ MSC power zoom. It's an very compact power zoom lens, that allows the camera and lens combination to stay small (the lens is even smaller than Panasonic's 14-42 Vario X powerzoom. Despite its size, the lens finds room for both a zoom and focus rings. It also comes with a clever sprung-iris lens cap that gives a compact-camera-like experience. In the US (initially, at least), the lens will only be available separately, at a cost of around $349.


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gh4

Check out the just announced super compact 35-100mm f2.8 from Panasonic!

Skip to 8:32 in the youtube video below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XCPXjUVHzg

1 upvote
BarnET

Not really an announcement just a mock-up but still very exciting. I wonder how it will end up.

0 upvotes
bluevellet

The 9mm fisheye body cap, the 14-42 pancake zoom, this 35-100 micro zoom from Panasonic and the classic 20mm f1.7 pancake prime and you're set for an all-purpose, but small kit.

Trade in some functionality (EVF, IBIS) and get the GM1 as a m43 body and you're doubling down on small size.

1 upvote
BarnET

bluevellet. I need a proper grip and controls. The GM-1 though an great little gem skips too much in the ergonomics part for me.

I have the GX7 here as a second body. With the 20mm 45mm as most used lenses. It's a damn fine mirrorless. I have yet to come across anything i do not like about it.

Well i would love to have an affordable good fast standard zoom option. Sigma? Tamron?

And 1600 for the 42.5mm is just an plain robbery in my book.

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0 upvotes
bluevellet

The lens you want is a m43 equivalent of the classic 14-54 on 4/3 DSLRs. No such option exist yet (unless you use that very lens on m43). I'm not sure how much of a demand there is for a native m43 zoom like that. I'm personally not interested (I stick to small primes).

0 upvotes
white shadow

As mirrorless cameras especially micro 4/3 are for recreational use, small fast prime lenses are the way to go. The closes "fast standard zoom" is the Lumix 12-35mm f/2.8 lens. For me, I prefer the 14-45mm f/3.5-5.6 if I need one. The 14-140mm f/3.5-5.6 MkII is a very convenient alternative. It is not fast but it get the job done.

0 upvotes
ekaton

Now this looks great. Mft starts to go back to its roots and takes advantage of the smaller sensor footprint. The pana 12-32mm zoom, the new Olympus 12-42mm kit zoom, pana leica 17mm, pana 20mm, Olympus 25mm, Olympus 45mm, this super compact 35-100mm is what mft should be all about imo and the E-M10 could be the right body for these lenses. Perfect for a super compact, versatile, high IQ travel combo.

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gnblondon

To correct the above (in the UK at least and in the kit I bought) the sprung-iris lens cap does not come with the m.Zuiko 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ MSC power zoom and instead is available separately: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Olympus-LC-37C-M-ZUIKO-DIGITAL-14-42mm/dp/B00I1CP2MU/

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photohounds

Oops.. link
http:/photohounds.smugmug.com

Look for the RB 67 page, compare it to what MFT can do today....

There's no contest.

0 upvotes
photohounds

Darn ...
mobile site does not support edit or even delete
I'll delete the other one later.
FMF = full marketing frame

http://photohounds.smugmug.com
Compare the Mamiya RB 67 4.5 TIMES as big as 35 mm (miniature format pics with the MFT ones.

0 upvotes
lacikuss

I used to own Olympus in the film era. It was great to have a Japanese manufacturer caring about size and IQ at the same time.

Nowadays, I think of IQ and I ask myself why should we trade camera size for IQ? Why is Olympus is not pushing for FF and smaller size? Is Sony the old Olympus?

By the way, I don't own neither but do use FF.

Thank you

1 upvote
pdelux

Myabe they see a market for smaller cameras. You cant compare sizes of digital cameras to Film analog cameras with hardly any electronics at all. Of course the original OM was small and FF, but there more in a camera than ever before. They did not have IBIS, image processors, memory, LCDs, rechargable batteries?, AUto Focus motors?

Plus the Boat anchor market is cornered by Two big companies, maybe olympus sees elsewhere.

0 upvotes
yabokkie

what do you mean by IQ? is it a camera issue?

0 upvotes
Teru Kage

Even if the body could be reduced to fit a FF sensor, it would still require larger, bulkier lenses. I prefer the light alternative of M4/3 lenses. When I need absolute IQ or performance, I'll use my FF but for travel and casual shots my E-PL5 is my go-to tool.

6 upvotes
yabokkie

OM bodies were famous for their low quality. many people used to love OM cameras for lower prices than major brands, and most of those who bought a low price camera didn't take many photos for same cost reasons.

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erichK

That is a stuipid and completely misleading remark,as the forty year old OM-1 Istill use demonstrates. The OM-1 was a very well-made camera for its price class, and the later OM3 and OM4Ti still sell for premium prices because they were superb cameras for their significantly higher price category.

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yabokkie

did you buy your OM-1 new 40 years ago?

for used ones, no OM-1 can be complete with original parts, and that's why someone can still use their OM-1's today: third-party parts made in back-streets in Tokyo or somewhere else are of better quality than Olympus originals.

used OM-1's are dirt cheap but one that's never openned should go to a museum (don't try to use it for it will break). Canon and Nikon also have problem buying back old models with all genuin parts while you can find loads of them in shops.

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yourt

You are so full of it: back in the days I had to choose: my OM-10 with a 50mm 1.4 or a full set with 3 lenses from Yashika or a Pentax with two lenses. So if Oly's are cheap rubbish, Pentax must be even more? Oh, and that OM-10, I still use it to shoot B/W film on concerts. With an OM-Eos adapter it even takes my Canon 70-200/2.8. All original, had to turn it in once for a lighting meter checkup.

0 upvotes
photohounds

Why do we"need" FMF?

IQ is high these days and micro for third strikes a great balance between too much DOF and enough DOF. High IQ Portraits to macro to landscapes are all possible with the one format. And the lenses are small enough to carry a few of them.

printing is easy up to 900mm by 1200mm.
That's big!

FMF (full MARKETING frame) is not that useful any more unless using old less sharp lenses important.

35mm replaced my 6x7 fuller frame for most things and MFT kills the results the old Mamiya could achieve. Examples at the links below.

0 upvotes
Michael_13

Why? Because FF is useless for most users, it is heavier, bigger and more expensive.
The marginal gain in iq is simply not worth it.

0 upvotes
ABisbano

I'd like my EM5 had in camera CA correction too... :-(

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Devorah Goldstein Images

I have 2 EM5's which I use professionally, and bought the EM10 for my purse -- I love the wifi and OMShare app. The image quality is excellent and the size can't be beat. For its purpose in my life, it's perfect. My EM5's, with full battery grip, feel more balanced when using lenses like the 75 1.8 and 12-40 2.8 -- I keep hoods permanently attached (instead of filters) and there's a PW on top of it all; somehow I think the EM10 would look a little silly like that (and yes I have the grip on preorder but it's not a battery grip). I find if you turn off image review in the EVF there's almost no image lag.

I'm coming from a D800 kit with good glass, and I literally had to ask B&H to recommend a bag SMALL enough for the body + lens sizes. Think Tank "Speed" convertible pack series is just right when event shooting, and my Think Tank Navigator holds my entire kit. And every time I pick it up fully loaded with my Oly kit, it makes me smile.

2 upvotes
Sylvain G

"I also found the rear command dial slightly awkward to use on occasion. With the camera balanced in my right hand, it's just out of my thumb's reach, requiring an extra moment of re-positioning."

I felt the same with the E-M5 at first. Then I understood both dials were best operated by the index. It really took some times before I even tried because we're expecting one wheel per thumb & index. At least it works fine for me.

1 upvote
yabokkie

try to use the base of the thumb to hold the camera (against the second join of the middle finger).

0 upvotes
tjbates

Whichever way I look at it - the E-M10 looks like a marketing mistake in favour of the consumer. That doesn't happen very often.
The E-M10 is marketed as an entry level OM series camera - however on paper and I'm sure in reality - this camera looks to perform (purely in terms of image quality) as well as the E-M1. That's pretty special for a camera about half the price of it's bigger brother.

19 upvotes
Craig from Nevada

Olympus needs to make more marketing mistakes like this.

30 upvotes
bluevellet

The EM-10 has all the basics to take great photos and follows a familar philosophy from Olympus of offering great value, even in the low end.

Weather-sealing, bigger grip, bigger EVF, faster shutter, PDAF, extra customization are features missing from the EM-10 (compared to the E-M1) and may not be worth it for budget-conscious customers.

0 upvotes
BJL

Olympus cameras follow the tradition of film cameras: cheap models get the same sensor/film as more expensive models in the same format, and are differentiated on other features of the body like weather sealing, higher frame rates, fancier AF systems, bigger and better viewfinders. I much prefer this to the Canon/Nikon/Sony approach where cheaper models in a given format often got inferior, older sensor designs.

BTW, Pentax does it right too: for example, the sensor that arrived in the K-5 was then used in all subsequent lower-priced Pentax DSLR bodies.

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1 upvote
Pap38

Really...the Nikon 5300 has an inferior sensor?

0 upvotes
JDThomas

How do you figure Nikon gives cheaper models inferior sensors? The D7100, D5300, and D3300 all share the same sensor. The D600/610 and D800 both have sensors that sit alone in their own class. The D4/s and Df both have the same sensor.

All of Nikon's sensors are regarded highly. Not a cheap inferior sensor in the whole lineup.

1 upvote
RoJack725

What's cool about the OMD line is you get both mode dials on even the base model EM10. With Nikon, if you want some advanced features like the Dual Mode Dials, you need to go all the way to the D7XXX series. Not that the 5000 and 3000 series arent awesome cameras, they most certainly are. And they have some of the best APS-C sensors available. But, Oly's base model is only lacking a few features from the EM1 (Phase, weather sealing, etc) And THAT is pretty cool.

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fuxicek

great camera but the lenses are somehow expensive, there is no budget 50mm or better 25mm f1.8 lens... for 100 euro you can get only toy lenses...:( ...and I wonder, if there is any small external flash, like Nikon´s SB400?

4 upvotes
jtan163

FL-300R like the SB400 but better in some ways - can be shot off camera using clip on flash to control it with the EM5 and EM1 - not sure about the EM10 yet but I would imagine it would work.
Can be bounced.
About $130-160.
Down side - not super powerfull.

1 upvote
qwertio

It seems though that MFT lenses are the cheapest, compared to Canon and Nikon. And they are small. No budget 50mm or better 25mm f1.8 lens? are you serious? The 25mm f1.8 lens is very good and sharp, just do your research. Good lenses cost money, and they last long, sometimes even longer that the camera itself. If you want a budget lens, better stick to the kit lens. Good investments produce good quality.

7 upvotes
ThePhilips

@fuxicek, all new lenses are expensive.

The cheapest are the f/2.8 Sigmas - 19mm and 30mm, both retailing for around 160€ in Germany (s/h probably even cheaper). 19mm would give you around 40mm eq FL (which I personally prefer over 50mm eq). The Sigma 60mm has similar price and is a very good portrait lens.

5 upvotes
ajshutter

You can get a Panasonic 14mm f2.5 for around 200 USD on ebay. It is a fairly sharp wide lens (28 mm equivalent FF) that can be used as an all purpose lens. Also look into a 45mm F1.8 that you can get for approximately 300 USD and is almost a MUST have for any m4/3 oly owner for portraits etc.

0 upvotes
yabokkie

m4/3" lenses are not only lower performance but also by far worse cost performance.

3 upvotes
b craw

Yabokkie, I've grown to have a strange appreciate for your posts; they are consistent, like the rising sun. Unfortunately, you chiming in on every topic, undermines your credibility. I have difficulty believing your proclamations, as I doubt you've used a third of the equipment you comment on. Perhaps you are drawing on a vast pool of theoretical knowledge and insight beyond the normal human - theoretically possible but not likely.

Your comment here (consistent with your usual negative assessments) is a broad categorization that is simply wrong - as is much of your commentary about m4/3. Do you have any real life experience with this format?

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Stu 5

b craw should that not read, "do you have any real life experience?"...

3 upvotes
T3

The way I see it, I'm paying a bit of a premium to have such ultra-compact lenses. Sure, some of my Canon DSLR lenses are cheaper, but they are also quite a bit larger. So in terms of value per dollar with m4/3 lenses, compact size is part of the value proposition. I guess it's like paying extra for a slim ultrabook, when bulkier laptops can be had for cheaper.

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Revenant

Yabokkie thinks that the physical aperture is the only information you need about a lens to know its performance. Companies that make lenses for crop sensor cameras are 'F-stop cheaters', because they try to disguise their low-performance, small aperture lenses behind seemingly impressive F-stop numbers. At least this is my understanding of his/her teachings.

4 upvotes
technotic

Nice one Stu 5. I notice that yab has remained silent on this question. He has no experience it appears. He bases his stupid little ideas on specs. Anyone with a brain cell knows cameras are far more than the sum of their specs.

0 upvotes
bobbarber

One other point about very fast lenses--when wide open they sometimes perform poorly on the edges, and especially in the corners. This is less of a problem on m43 (depending on the lens) than it is on FF. Take a lens like the Minolta MD 50mm 1.4 manual lens, adapted to a FF camera, or to m43. With m43, you have a longer focal length, it's true, and the sensor receives fewer photons, because of the size of the sensor, but your image is sharp edge to edge, because you are only using the sweet spot in the middle of the lens. If the noise is unobjectionable (as it is at low ISO--let's face it, people are trying to create issues here where there are none), then you have taken a sharper photo edge to edge on m43 than you could on FF, with the same lens. Neither format wins all the time, but as other posters have pointed out, strictly judging formats by lens aperture is a mistake.

0 upvotes
historianx

Yabokkie: casting doubts among fanboys of every major brand that exists.

0 upvotes
Bhima78

The Oly 25mm 1.8 (50mm equiv for a 35mm camera) i think is $300 and its a stellar lens. Also, this kit lens has almost double the MTF resolution as the standard kit lens from a Canon DSLR, making it quite useful, unlike what Canon offers in a kit.

If you like standard zooms (24-80mm), they Zuiko 2.8PRO for $1,000 offers better MTF resolution than Canon's L glass 24-70 2.8 and is cheaper.

I just wish we had some good Sigma glass to choose from here, but at least the image quality of the Zuiko glass seems to justify their price.

0 upvotes
jhendrix

I'm looking to buy a travel camera. I know I am probably in the minority, but I would love for DPR to also include some gallery samples with the power zoom kit lens. The images with the 1.8 lens look awesome. How much worse would they look with the kit lens?

2 upvotes
BarnET

Outside if you don't need the thin depth of field probably close to nothing.

Indoors when you need to push the ISO's worse by an considerable ammount. Difference in light is about 3 stops. So You can keep using ISO 800 instead of 6400. or 400 instead of 3200.

0 upvotes
CacoQ

This is by far one of the best backup camera ever! Street shooting with this baby is great! For the $ is perfect! DAM

3 upvotes
Louis Dallara

I want one! it seems like the perfect upgrade for me from Oly E-pl5 have already bought a collection of lens.
The question is? Is it time to sell my Nikon D800 which I still love, but use less.

2 upvotes
Craig from Nevada

This is pretty good deal. When the price settles down a bit, it will even be a better deal.

I would say the E-P5 and any offspring have run their course and are rendered obsolete by this camera. The EPL and EPM still serve some purpose in the Oly line up.

OMD occupies a nice niche in the camera market. It will be interesting to see if Olympus can make a buck selling these cameras.

0 upvotes
Richt2000

Yea, especially if the shuttershockgate of the E-P5 is now fixed...
I've never seen a shock issue with my E-M5 but that E-P5 was aweful...

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Revenant

Since the E-P5 shutter is capable of 1/8000s, it's probably not the same one as in E-M5 and E-M10.

0 upvotes
bluevellet

I'd rather have an E-P5 than an EM-10.

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BarnET

I did rather get an GX7 instead of the overpriced EP-5.
I already voted with my wallet on that one. I would have considered the EM-10 for cost savings though. But it wasn't out yet.

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Jogger

Why are the exposure settings all over the place? Makes no sense. How are we suppose to make a comparison if they are not the same? Seems like Oly caught on and are gaming the DPR comparison method.

4 upvotes
Alien from Mars

By R Butler (20 hours ago)
>
>The E-M10 can't shoot at 1/5000th, so we had to reduce
> the lighting by 1EV.

So you better stop making far going conclusions based on an incomplete data

12 upvotes
BarnET

3 words.
Neutral density filter

0 upvotes
eivissa1

The testphoto's show that the Panny GM1 shows just a little more detail. Agressive noisereduction in the E-M10?

1 upvote
Revenant

Depending on where I look, I see (or think that I see) more detail from one camera or the other. The NR is likely not applied globally, but locally depending on the kind of detail in the specific part of the image. In general, Olympus' output pleases me more than Panasonic's, but it's a matter of taste for sure.

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bobbarber

Question:

If the output of this camera at ISO 200 is "not good", "unacceptable", "noisy", blah, blah, blah, as so many posters claim, and there are two stops difference between m43 and FF, does that mean that the output of Nikon FF cameras at ISO 800 is "not good", "unacceptable", and "noisy"?

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Mike99999

No, it means that the Olympus camera is missing native ISO 25, 50 and 100 in order to compete with ISO 100, 200 and 400 on full frame cameras.

I still fail to understand why these ISO modes are not available on micro four thirds...

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Jogger

That is sort of like saying that a Ferrari going at 5KM is no better than a Prius going at 5KM.

For cameras, it means that your operational envelope is FAR greater for FF than with m43. Similar to why fast lenses are better than slower ones, even if slower ones are "just as good" at similar apertures. If your needs are limited, then this may not matter to you, but, dismissing it is shortsighted.

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Revenant

Native ISO is a physical property of the sensor. Lowering the native ISO means that the sensor is less sensitive to incoming light, which in turn means that the signal needs more amplification to achieve the higher effective ISOs. And more amplification leads to more noise.
Also, with a native ISO as low as 25, photon shot noise will become more visible, so you may not gain as much as you'd wish, even at low ISOs.

3 upvotes
yabokkie

it does if D800 doesn't have lower ISO settings than 800.

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thejohnnerparty

To Mike9999:
I'm guessing about your ISO question - maybe it has something to do with the surface area of the sensor. Considering that the M43 is a smaller sensor, "maybe" it doesn't collect "enough" light and therefore need a higher ISO to reach acceptable exposure. Again, I'm only guessing - don't really know.

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Revenant

Exposure is a function of light per unit area, and is independent of total amount of light collected by the sensor. Sensor size does influence other things though.

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BJL

There is no reason to expect smaller sensors to have a lower minimum usable exposure index ("ISO"), since that minimum is based on saturation of the photosites at highlights, and is mostly set by how many electrons the sensor can count _per_unit_area_ (along with the fraction if incoming photons that the sensor detects: QE). That measure is roughly 1500 to 2000 electrons per square micron regardless of sensor size, so the base-ISO speed does to vary much with sensor or photosite size: certainly not in direct proportion to sensor or photosite size.
This highlight-based lower limit (base ISO speed) is unrelated to the film-like "ISO speed", which is about signal-to-noise ratios and handling of low light levels, not highlight handling.

It is unfortunate that these different measures [(1) exposure level or EI (2) saturation-based lower limits on usable EI, (3) maximum EI or "ISO speed" based on noise] all get called "ISO" just because the same organization (The ISO) defines them all.

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Vlad4D

Not fair comparison. For example on ISO 6400
Olympus has shutter speed 1/2500 but Nikon has 1/4000.

Noise should be compared at identical shutter speed and aperture.
With 1/2500 Nikon will get about twice less noise than on 1/4000.

Some companies continue tricking customers and I see that dpreview continues to support it by publishing those unfair tests.

9 upvotes
zodiacfml

This is the reason why MFT seems close to other formats. ANyway, it would require a different test to show the true difference between formats.

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tpphotonics

As has been mentioned in this discussion before: the light levels of the test scene are lowered accordingly so that both cameras receive the same amount of light. Thus the noise floor for the Nikon camera would be the same if shot with a darker scene at 1/2500 - or even a bit worse because thermal noise scales with exposure time.

4 upvotes
joejack951

Noise depends on the available light, too. According to Dpreview (read further down in the comments) they adjust the lighting as necessary to keep things even (at least in the specific instance mentioned).

0 upvotes
Vlad4D

joejack951, adjusting light for every camera makes test even more unreliable. In my opinion shutter, aperture and scene brightness must be identical for all cameras (SAS lock). Then we can optionally normalize the images (or use Auto ISO) so they have same brightness. Un-normalized version should be also available.

3 upvotes
yabokkie

it's relatively easy to have identical aperture for one can mount a same copy of Nikkor lens on m4/3" body but shutter speeds will have to be tested against a reliable reference (a CRT for amatuers for example).

also people should know that DPReview's test method is systematically biased due to a simple design flaw, that sensors of different aspect ratios cannot be compared directly.

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3 upvotes
Alien from Mars

>By Vlad4D (5 hours ago)
> Not fair comparison. For example on ISO 6400
> Olympus has shutter speed 1/2500 but Nikon has 1/4000.

By R Butler (20 hours ago)

The E-M10 can't shoot at 1/5000th, so we had to reduce the lighting by 1EV.

So you better stop making far going conclusions based on an incomplete data

2 upvotes
qwertio

"By R Butler (21 hours ago)

The E-M10 can't shoot at 1/5000th, so we had to reduce the lighting by 1EV.
"

0 upvotes
onlooker

Vlad4D: "In my opinion shutter, aperture and scene brightness must be identical for all cameras (SAS lock). Then we can optionally normalize the images (or use Auto ISO) so they have same brightness."

It seems almost too logical, doesn't it?

0 upvotes
topstuff

Image Quality is not fantastic. Seems on a par with my RX100.

I do not think it really matters here.

I think I will buy one, if only because of G.A.S.

Shame about the 30p video though.

1 upvote
Naveed Akhtar

IQ is on par with any other camera on the default comparison. The only exception is Fuji which is cleaner on higher ISO values than any other. Oly is sharper on most of the parts though. I like the output over Canon and Nikon APS-C, less CA. probably because of the lens .. but still!!

0 upvotes
photofan1986

Then you must have a special edition of the Rx100!

20 upvotes
Richt2000

I have an E-M5 and an RX100 and sorry, but the E-M5 is superior IQ... as far as noise and sensor sharpness...

3 upvotes
bzanchet

IQ is the same as RX100 (I also have both), I prefer the portability of the Sony. Imagine going to a party with a Olympus on your neck.

0 upvotes
Jude McDowell

I can't imagine going to a party with any ILC (m4/3, APC or FF) around my neck.

1 upvote
B1ackhat

Let's face it though: The RX100 color accuracy, tone curve, and AWB are just nasty. I like my RX100, but if it had decent color output - or could even be fixed 100% in post - I would LOVE it.

0 upvotes
bzanchet

B1ackhat I agree with you! IMO Canon has the best colors output, thats why I am interested on the G1xii. The Oly colors of the EM10 does not seem a big upgrade from the RX100.

0 upvotes
Pat Cullinan Jr

@Jude McDowell

I really like that avatar.

0 upvotes
onlooker

@DPR: In your Gear Shop, page http://gearshop.dpreview.com/olympus-om-d-e-m10-mirrorless-camera-kit-with-14-42mm-f3-5-5-6-ii-r-lens-black/dp/B00I3W0QWY?childAsin=B00HPQ0A16, in specifications you have "Electronic viewfinder with 100% coverage and 1,044,000 dots". I think you have a "0" in a wrong place.

2 upvotes
T3

Now my only question is: black or silver?

6 upvotes
Naveed Akhtar

and the answer is .. either black or silver!!

1 upvote
AbrasiveReducer

I vote for black or silver.

1 upvote
Pat Cullinan Jr

This is going way over my head.

0 upvotes
attomole

Black and silver are equivalent to red on full frame

2 upvotes
RichRMA

Does this mean these cameras are better off without the 5-axis IBIS?

2 upvotes
Naveed Akhtar

yeap .. if the body is very light, better go without 5-axis.

0 upvotes
Richt2000

Why would it be better off? its 3.5 stops of IBIS rather than 4...

0 upvotes
Revenant

The 3-axis IBIS in E-M10 compensates for rotational movement, i.e. pitch, yaw and roll. 5-axis also corrects for left/right and up/down movements, which are most noticeable in photos taken at close range (or at very long focal lengths). In general, though, those movements don't cover as many pixels as the rotational movements do, and therefore aren't as visible in the final image.

1 upvote
ragmanjin

I've been playing with the EM-10 lately and have to say I'm thoroughly impressed with what Olympus has been bringing to the table lately. I have absurd knobbly spaghetti/gorilla/alien fingers that make the body and lenses feel just a bit too small compared to what I'm used to (even my Pentax kit feels a little small having just transferred back from medium format), but the OM-D's viewfinder is generous and the quality is an absolute mind-blow — especially given the sensor size. BTW, have you seen a side-by-side comparison with the 35mm OM-1 from the early 70s? Absolutely uncanny. Makes you wonder how they ever fit a roll of film in their old OM lineup.
Anyways, it's no wonder they're finally projecting some profits in their camera division's near future :D

12 upvotes
RichRMA

Please note; studio tests show better sharpness (RAW) and slightly more moire than the M5 and M1. Check-out the printed areas above the Dpreview logo. Also, the black finish is more attractive than the geometric pattern on the M5 black model.

0 upvotes
jtan163

If you don't like the black EM5 geometric pattern have you notices that new EM5 black model's black texture is now dimpled rubber instead of the geometric pattern?

Has been for a few weeks - since the last firmware update roughly.

0 upvotes
RadPhoto

I am very impressed. And I am a Nikon and Fuji shooter!

5 upvotes
qwertio

I have a feeling this will have a gold award with 81~82% rating.
Something like this....
Pros:
- Excellent image quality, even at high ISO
- 3-axis IBIS almost as good as 5-axis IBIS except for macro photography
- Chromatic aberration corrected in-camera making JPEGs more usable
- Impressive number of customizable controls
- Bright, sharp electronic viewfinder
- Reliable Wi-Fi connectivity for remote control and easy transfer of images to mobile device
- Neat in-camera time lapse creation
- Tilting OLED screen very good

Cons:
- No weather sealing
- Disappointing video quality (unless updated by firmware..)
- Interface and controls can be overwhelming initially
- In-camera Raw conversion interface is somewhat unintuitive

5 upvotes
Craig from Nevada

Just about every camera trotted out gets a gold or silver award these days.

2 upvotes
bluevellet

Except the Nkon DF...

5 upvotes
Richt2000

And the Nikon DF doesn't deserve any award. Its just a handicap D4 both in AF and ergonomics. Looks Fugly too.

6 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer

They need a higher level award like Platinum or Titanium, to create some differentiation among all the Gold winners.

If someone was using DPR as a buying guide and they restricted their choices to silver and gold winners, they would be left with every camera DPR has tested, except the Df.

1 upvote
Craig from Nevada

Sounds like every camera receives a participation trophy.

1 upvote
NetMage

Perhaps most of today's good cameras (those worth reviewing) are actually good?

0 upvotes
veroman

Save for the very best of the full frames, the M10 images look no better and no worse than the countless thousands of other images that have been posted on dpreview in the course of their most recent (past 2 to 3 years) camera reviews.

Seems to me that camera choices these days have much, much more to do with price point, ergonomics, features and intended uses than image quality or anything having to do with image quality. They're all very good. The OM-D E-M10 is good. A Leica is good. The Fuji X Trans cameras are good. My old Canon 40D is good. Take your pick.

50 upvotes
pdelux

Well said. All cameras are good if used within the limits of their technology. Only in the extremes eg High ISO's will the little guys fall behind.

3 upvotes
blohum

Most definitely, I'm still using my EP3 with its "ancient" 12mp sensor and recently did something crazy... I got some photos printed out. You know what, I was happy with the result so I'm sticking with it until the price comes down on the EP5; yes the IQ is better on newer cameras but the EP3 fits me like a glove and offers enough IQ to keep me happy for now.

5 upvotes
Craig from Nevada

The OP's comments is spot on.

2 upvotes
bluevellet

I have an older E620 DSLR (Four Thirds) and I still shoot with it from time to time. I think it's interesting how far we've come in the last 5 years with (m)43.

With the old camera, the pics are still nice, but there's more of a grainy look, almost like film. You see it on a monitor, though not so much in prints. Your range is ISO 100-800 for acceptable IQ.

Same year, Oly released the E-P1 with the same sensor but new image processor. IQ is refined and acceptable ISO range jumps to 1600. Things stay roughly the same for the next two generations.

E-M5 is released in 2012 with a new sensor and this is when 43 finally catches up to APS-C or exceeds it (Canon). DR is noticeably improved, MP increased and nearly two stop gained in high ISO. Times are good.

IQ with the EM-10 is very similar to the E-M5. It doesn't seem to matter whether the sensor is Sony-made (E-M5, EM-10) or from Panasonic (E-M1). Image processing is not squeezing much more detail either. There's that plateau again.

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1 upvote
Richt2000

I'm looking forward for a 24mp sensor which will be both good for portrait and take the best pocket landscape camera away from the NEX7 / A6000 !

1 upvote
jtan163

I tend to agree - all the OMD's produce really nice images - I'm not talking Oly JPEGs engine here.
There's almost a 3D effect and they are very very crisp and clear.
At least that's how I find them.

0 upvotes
qwertio

The only significant difference is video quality. For people who want to do video, some cameras do it better due to a better codec.

1 upvote
SkiHound

I agree. Tons of great cameras out there. There are certainly differences in jpeg processing. And cameras differ in features and ergonomics. But we are blessed by having access to a lot of cameras that are capable of making great images, if used by the right person.

0 upvotes
Cameracist

Some people still use their olympus e-1, despite having some newer, more megapixels cameras. One is here:)

1 upvote
blohum

I have an E1 too... I still love it though the EP3 has turned into my 'go to' camera due to size.

0 upvotes
Gesture

I admire the silly names each OEM gives its image processor.

7 upvotes
Iskender

Pentax' "Safox" AF module is also pretty good - it's the most sapphic AF system in the industry!

4 upvotes
Davesurfphoto

really enjoyed olympus micro4/3 em-5 when i rented it ,,, its alot of camera in a very small form factor ,, plus the extra tweaks arent too hard too find or lost in menus,,,, at a price point thats a great bargain,,, plus the lens options are almost endless with the proper adapters,,,,,watching4/3 camera evolve is a neat thing to see right now...good job olympus..keep pushing the envelope

3 upvotes
radissimo

The main dealbreaker for me is that uncomfortable on/off switch, believe or not that was the reason why I sold my E-M5 :-(

5 upvotes
caver3d

That is a strange reason to sell a camera. Are you sure there weren't other reasons why you sold it?

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21 upvotes
Valiant Thor

It's really an off/on switch which is probably why you couldn't handle it.

16 upvotes
Zeisschen

One almost needs two hands to activate the camera, that is just silly. Tried some of the OMD cameras in the store and that was really annoying. All the nice weels on top but the one function you need most is not there. Why Olympus?

4 upvotes
RichRMA

Sounds like you were using that switch as much as the shutter button. Otherwise, how could it be so annoying?

4 upvotes
EGenius007

Reviews of the E-M5 told me to dislike the switch position, and maybe on the E-M5 I would have. But on the E-M10 (and in part because my hands are not small) I can hold the camera and work the switch with one hand. With gloves on. And I'm not fighting to get to some tiny recess in a crowded area of the top plate. I haven't yet had a problem with accidentally turning the camera off, either. Obviously, YMMV, but people should really try these things themselves and strong statements on the internet shouldn't be taken very seriously.

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1 upvote
SaltLakeGuy

There's that all too familiar mottling (noise) in the sky portion of the shot along with the classic crunching of distant detail due to noise reduction and loss of detail, which caused me to recently divest myself of all my micro 4/3rd gear. I'm sure for many it's not a big deal. For me it was........

13 upvotes
caver3d

Oh boy, here you go again providing false information. People, it's best not to believe him.

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28 upvotes
Paul Auclair

SLG...
i've been shooting (E-M1 and E-M5) RAW/JPEG lately and using only Olympus Viewer to convert/view the ORFs. Even in low ISO (below 400) i could regularly see some goopy type "noise/artifacts"...kinda like little globs of clear gelatin splattered around.
i just demo'd DXO9 and the issue is long gone. even at default settings DXO9 gives the best ORF files i've seen in my life (starting with E1 in 2003).
Oly has got to (or i have to learn Viewer better) to better with it's RAW converter/viewer.

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2 upvotes
KonstantinosK

The evening shot (the first one in the "features" paragraph) looks particularly smudgy.

1 upvote
Zeisschen

it's a better point and shoot. What do you guys ecpect for that money?

6 upvotes
KonstantinosK

You're correct, I guess...

1 upvote
bzanchet

Canon g1xII, fuji xm1 or olympus em10? Hard to decide! I have a sony rx100 and I am considering to replace it.

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1 upvote
Tord S Eriksson

Sony made NEX cameras, Samsung made the NX100!

0 upvotes
Mike99999

Why do people use this mindset?

Chose which lens(es) you need, then get the matching camera. If you will be using kit lenses I don't think there's a need to replace your rx100.

1 upvote
ThePhilips

Mike99999: "Chose which lens(es) you need, then get the matching camera. If you will be using kit lenses I don't think there's a need to replace your rx100."

Yes. And it is worth repeating.

0 upvotes
bzanchet

I need an all around lens (bright, wide angle, 3x zoom). Portability is essential. I think I will stick with my RX100, the images looks better tahn EM10. The studio test of the RX100 was not done right.
I use my camera for travel, skiing, karting, partying. I dont need all kind of lenses (and I think unless you are a pro you dont need too).

0 upvotes
Olymore

So tell me about all the wildlife photographs you take with your rx100. Or the ultra wide angle photographs.
I'm sorry, I forgot, only pros take those sort of pictures....in your world anyway.

1 upvote
bzanchet

Judging by your picture, your flowers and birds pictures must be very exciting!

0 upvotes
lester11

Title on screen 9 reads, "Olympus OM-D E-M10 Samples Gallery". The text then starts, "There are 40 images in the Fujifilm X-T1 samples galley"....!

1 upvote
Allison Johnson

Thanks for spotting, that's fixed.

1 upvote
Anfy

I think that on the "introductory" page there is a slightly incorrect statement:
"From the E-M5 it [the E-M10] gets a 16 megapixel Four Thirds sensor, and from the E-M1 a newer TruePic VII processor and a large EVF that automatically dims and brightens depending on ambient light",
which gives the impression that the E-M10 EVF is the same of the E-M1, whereas it is that of the E-M5 (albeit with the dimming capability of the E-M1).

0 upvotes
Allison Johnson

Yes, that wasn't worded well. I've changed it, thanks.

2 upvotes
pew pew

looks like a nice camera, and the price looks right :)

3 upvotes
justmeMN

Another mirrorless camera featuring a DSLR Envy Design. :-) Since you can't beat them, try to look like them.

5 upvotes
pew pew

best of both worlds why not.

6 upvotes
Thorgrem

It's a SLR design (OM). You could see that if you know a thing about the history of photography.

31 upvotes
ironcam

Olympus should stop copying themselves.

13 upvotes
slncezgsi

Why? Should Porsche stop making cars that look like original 911? Once you get a good design - you keep using it and only make incremental improvements.

7 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer

If people buy it and like it, it's a good design. If it's functional and makes sense on paper but people don't buy it and don't like it, it's a bad design.

2 upvotes
justmeMN

I just thought that, with all the anti-DSLR ranting from some mirrorless enthusiasts, that mirrorless cameras that look like DSLRs was somewhat ironic.

0 upvotes
RichRMA

Because Joe Public represents the pinnacle of logic. Put it another way; 200 years ago, what constitutes modern art today would have been burned. Now, it's art. Has the art changed?

0 upvotes
kadardr

@RichRMA: YES

0 upvotes
Tord S Eriksson

If any cameras suffering from envy it is all the DSLRs, and most acutely so, the Nikon Df, as they all try to look like a classic SLR!

1 upvote
Ross the Fidller

And it works nicely for the Stylus 1 as well, so why not? ;)

0 upvotes
jtan163

JustinMN the defining feature of the DSLR is not it's shape - its a flapping mirror.
That's why they call them SLRs instead of BOTTS (bump on the top surface) cameras.
You do realise that it is actually possible to put a DSLR VF elsewhere don't you?
The reason it is where it is, is because it is practical.
Same for the OMD series - top center is a fairly practical place to have a VF, especially when the screen and controls are taking all the other logical places.

0 upvotes
tipple

Very good high iso pics. Colors appear natural . Good detail. Good price. This camera with the available lens lineup surely could keep a lot of people happy.

8 upvotes
cantsin

All currently available Micro Four Thirds cameras suffer from too many/too small pixels on their sensors, resulting in worse signal-nosie-ratios and limited high ISO/dynamic range compared to its APS-C competitors. In these days, there's not even a size or cost advantage of Olympus OM-D series over Sony's, Fuji's and Samsung's mirrorless offerings.

MFT could be much more competitive if Megapixels were cut. An MFT camera with a 9 Megapixel sensor could be as good in color, dynamic range and high ISO as a Nikon D800 with its 36 Megapixels (if one considers that MFT has 25% of full frame's sensor surface).

10 upvotes
Thorgrem

To bad the 16MP m4/3 sensors beat all the Canon APS-C sensors.

41 upvotes
67gtonr

Unless you are comparing them by the Image Quality each produces!

4 upvotes
cantsin

Canon APS-C is 5 year old sensor technology. That doesn't really count. (Although it still beats OM-D in low light ISO, http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Olympus-OM-D-E-M1-versus-Canon-EOS-70D___909_895.)

This is more telling:
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D3300-versus-Olympus-OM-D-E-M1-versus-Sony-NEX-5T___928_909_905

And concerning image quality: We're not talking about JPEG, aren't we?

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3 upvotes
tokugawa

A 16 Megapixel Micro-Four-Thirds sensor has about the same pixel size/area as a 24 Megapixel APS-C Sensor. And the current OM-D sensors even beat the 18 Megapixel APS-C Sensor Canon has used the past years which are supposed to have larger pixels.

Also, the size advantage is still there, although Sony's offerings are coming close, however, Sony's NEX lenses are much larger than the Micro-Four-Thirds lenses. You have to take into account the lenses too, not just the body.

7 upvotes
Marty4650

@ cantsin...

You're absolutely right.

There is no size advantage over Sony, Fuji, or Samsung's camera body offerings.... until you add a lens.

And you pretty much need a lens to take a photo.

So this point is very relevant.

14 upvotes
RichRMA

Using that logic, APS should go back to 6 megapixel sensors so their pixels aren't smaller than a FF with 16 megapixels. This isn't 2003, it's 2014.

2 upvotes
Mike99999

@Marty4650: my Sony FE 35/2.8 is about the same size and weight as my Olympus 17/1.8 (35/3.6 equivalent). Guess which lens renders nicer images?

2 upvotes
Thorgrem

Mike, bravo you have find the one and only lens that is about the same size as its m4/3 counterpart. What about the other lenses for your A7? Lol. By the way, the Olympus is a lot cheaper, a lot faster, and has a very nice snapshot focusing. On the other hand the Sony is weather sealed I think.

0 upvotes
zxaar

@Marty4650 , yes this is why there is no competition to pentax Q on size advantage. It thrashes m43 on this soundly. Pentax Q is a system m43 wished it could.

0 upvotes
jeffharris

@Mike99999

Why would you ever want a lens faster than f2.8?

Why not make them all f4 so they'll be even smaller!

2 upvotes
cantsin

Sorry, people, but I don't buy the lens size advantage argument either. A Sigma 30mm/2.8 is as small as an MFT lens, yields fantastic quality (without any software-corrected distortions), and has the DoF of an MFT 20mm/2.0 lens. Alternatively, if you don't mind manual operation, you can use rangefinder lenses like the Voigtlander 35mm/1.4 that are even smaller.

0 upvotes
peevee1

DPR wrote: "compare the E-M10 to a growing list of cameras in our new studio test scene. "

Your comparison is useless, for ISO 25,600 you use f/5.6 1/2500s on E-M10 and f/5.6 1/5000s on E-M1. Whole stop difference in exposure!

3 upvotes
Richard Butler

The E-M10 can't shoot at 1/5000th, so we had to reduce the lighting by 1EV.

13 upvotes
djorgji

"The E-M10 can't shoot at 1/5000th, so we had to reduce the lighting by 1EV."

Or you could have stopped down to F/8 to get 1/2500 on both of them ...

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5 upvotes
joejack951

f/8 on 4/3 sensor is well into diffraction territory. Why add another variable to the test by using a different f-stop which presumably offers lower resolution than f/5.6? Total light gathered is what affects noise performance so adding a stop of exposure but cutting the light by 1EV was the proper choice given the limitations imposed by the camera.

2 upvotes
RichRMA

Dpreview has been changing the light levels for a long time to compensate for differences in sensor response or limitations in the camera's exposure time. This has the unfortunate result of masking noticeable sensor differences.

1 upvote
joejack951

RichRMA, how do you conclude that changing light levels masks sensor differences? As long as the lights are well controlled, cutting a stop of exposure from the lighting while adding a stop of exposure time will yield an identical result.

0 upvotes
peevee1

Or you could have reduced lighting to allow to test all cameras, even those with only 1/2000s shutters.

0 upvotes
Jogger

I guess the PEN line is officially dead. Aside from a stripper entry model, there's really no room for it in the current Oly lineup. And, it doesnt make sense for a small player like Oly to have ore models than Canon or Nikon.

1 upvote
love_them_all

It's not they don't like the PEN line. It's just that they are not selling as well. The market that is willing to pay wants the OMD form factor with the EVF on top just like an DSLR.

4 upvotes
peevee1

PENs are selling perfectly well in Asia. That is why they sell E-PL6 there and nowhere else, just like Canon with its EOS M2.

8 upvotes
The Jacal

A 'stripper entry model' sounds great.

7 upvotes
Marty4650

There probably should be two Pen models for their entry level, and for people who don't feel the need for an EVF.

The EP5 makes absolutely no sense now. Once you add an optional EVF, you are almost at the price of the flagship EM1.

Once you add an optional EVF to even the cheapest Pen, you now are spending as much as buying an EM10. So the Pen line is now strictly relegated to the entry level.

0 upvotes
love_them_all

Peevee1 - The M2 is a Japanese only model. They are not sold in Asia outside of Japan. Plus, the EPL6 is not exactly selling like hot cake either.

1 upvote
inorogNL

@peeveee currently e-pl6 is in stores in all major camera in holland, and they are selling 100 euros cheaper than e-pl5 !

0 upvotes
Johannadewit

compared to the Nikon DF the IQ of the EM1 is not bad @ all. Or is is my unexperienced view of things? Looked at the low light test, with enough sunlight most cameras perform well I guess?

5 upvotes
bluevellet

So aside from the default grip, some button placement and customization quirks, it's a homerun.

4 upvotes
razorre

What about REAL Olympus ISO ? I read in a few places that E-M5 (and probably E-M10) have ISO lower about 1EV ! (that's why noise is so low).
Can you compare exposure parameters on test scene with some other cameras? (like Canon DSLR)

2 upvotes
jeremyclarke

From the E-M5 review on this site:
"By our tests, the E-M5's measured sensitivities are about 1/3 stop lower than indicated across the ISO range (i.e. images are fractionally darker than expected for any given set of exposure values). A discrepancy this small has little practical impact in real world use but means the camera will be slightly flattered in our tests."

The E-M1 review had a similar note but it said that the measured ISO was just right so there was no need for consideration.

Given that we can expect the noise section of the E-M10 review to have a similar note if necessary. Likely it will match the E-M5 performance and thus need a similar mental note when comparing.

All that said, it seems to me that Fuji still has the lead on outrageously-inaccurate ISO measurements (1/3-1/2 stop on the X-E1 instead of "about 1/3").

4 upvotes
Richard Butler

razorre - talk of Olympus being out by a whole stop stem from a misunderstanding of the data DxO presents.

We've measured the ISO sensitivity of the E-M5 and E-M1, and the biggest discrepancy we've experienced is 1/3EV.

21 upvotes
rocklobster

It's hugely dissappointing to keep hearing about how complex it is to enable the SCP or to change any other configuration parameters. Anybody who has owened a recent Olympus camera will find it quickly and for anyone else there are the forums. This is not a deal breaker by any stretch...

Cheers

0 upvotes
jeremyclarke

Reading all these reviews in succession certainly makes the constant refrain a bit tedious, and the fact that it makes it into the "downsides" just seems overblown. You are saying that you love the SCP and find it invaluable, which is a GOOD thing about this camera isn't it?

If nothing else it implies to me that the OM-D are truly excellent cameras with almost no important issues, since apparently one of it's biggest flaws is a great feature everyone loves :P

2 upvotes
ChrisJBSC

The EM-10 has the SCP Super Control Panel enabled from first turn on. It is detailed in the manual as the way to interact with the camera. It is ready for immediate use!

4 upvotes
perry rhodan

In EU, I related to 3 sellers in person. All three showed the SCP was ON by default in the EM10!

3 upvotes
Richard Butler

By default you get the screen mode version of SCP - an interactive panel instead of live view. Switch to live view and pressing the 'info' button brings up the early-90s-compact-camera-style interface.

Engaging SCP as the main means of changing settings is an awkward affair. We have to review for people who aren't existing Olympus owners. Our point is that the E-M10 can be set up to be one of the engaging cameras in its class, for keen photographers, but if you pick it up in a camera store, you may not realise this.

2 upvotes
Whitefalcon

I saw a video on Youtube where there is an eyecup that extends out. I have not been able to find the manufacturer.

0 upvotes
PeHa

Guess you are thinking of the Samsung NX30. //Per

0 upvotes
EricAotearoa

Olympus make one, as do third parties. Try the Olympus site or EBay.

0 upvotes
Shiesen

Panasonic GX7?

1 upvote
jtan163

http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/accessories/camera/eyecups-viewfinders/ep-11-optional-large-eyecup-e-m5.html

This one extend back something like 7-10mm (estimated).
With on the EM5 is a problem, because the eyecups fall of every 3 minutes.
It's nice to use, but easy to knock off - at least that's what I found.

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alan092177

I'm now wondering if that eyecup will fit the E-M5 as well. Of course everybody who owns an E-M5 has dealt with the "vanishing" eyecup. I think the depth / length of that eyecup is perfect and not too long like the EP-11.

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alan092177

got word from Olympus Japan:

Unfortunately the eyecup EP-14 with E-M10 is not available on
E-M5. In addition to this, the grip ECG-1 only fits on E-M10.

Even though it is written in Japanese, you could try to refer to
the following page about the newest eyecup compatibility tables
for all OM-D products.

[Eyecup compatibility tables - Olympus Imaging Japan]
http://www.olympus.co.jp/jp/support/cs/pen/acce/pen_finder.html

We are sorry that we can not be more helpful to this matter.

Thank you for taking time to write us, and we are looking forward
to having your continued support.

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jtan163

Apparently the D7000 eyecup fits and stays on.
I've been through about 6 Oly ones so far.
I actually don't have an eye cup more than I do.
I love the camera but the eyecup makes me angry.

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george grans

Just got mine at ritz!!! Sweet deal!

http://www.ritzcamera.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchView?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&keyword=olympus+e-m10

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caissam

Does the m10 has a AA-Filter like the M1 or nor?
Some pages say yes, some no?!

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nekudza

has been discussed several threads below.

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LarryLatchkey

for me this could be the best-value m4/3 so far! beautiful, compact, well built, good IQ and an okay grip.

but i hate to say that i actually prefer panasonic's jpeg rendering, so that i might go for a used GX1 instead and wait for a future EM6. i prefer a little grittyness any time over the smudgyness and over-processed look of the olympus jpegs. or does the lowest NR + sharpening settings solve this problem?

unfortunately, design-wise the GF6 and GX7 look horrendous against the olympus beauties. something went wrong recently in the Panasonic design dpt. the GM1 is pretty cool, but unfortunately handles like a p&s, or, rather a little soap bar (love the lense though). however, i found the grip on the (black) E-M5 still too slippery. maybe the one with the leather texture on the EM10 is better? in my secret dreams however i imagine a M4/3rds-version of a Pentax Q or a Ricoh G(X)R...

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yabokkie

the grip is horrible and operation not good.

they should have abandoned this design and work from E-M1 for a more compact and better one. feel sorry for Oly.

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Thorgrem

Larry, you are right, finally a nice Olympus alternative to the Panasonic G6. Don't mind Yabokkie, he is just a sad person trolling all the m4/3 reviews/news. Feel sorry for him and hope he will find a good psychologist soon.

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grendak

Any evidence of shock/vertical blur like the E-P5? I tried two different E-P5's and had horrible luck in the telephoto range at anything below 1/250s. If the E-M10 & 3-axis stabilization behaves better then I am sold!!

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gpsgps

Where is my twist & swivel, eh?

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Bernard49

During the past day I am looking at the x-t1 pictures and still it disturb me a little bit. I think that the bump should have been modeld like the Oly OM- DEMIO with a little tiny build in popup flash!

What do you think about that x-t1 bump?

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