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Leica T (Typ 701) First Impressions Review

April 2014 | By Andy Westlake
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Preview based on a pre-production Leica T (Typ 701)

This year marks Leica's 100th birthday as a camera maker and, to celebrate, the venerable German manufacturer has launched an all-new camera system. Perhaps unexpectedly, though, Leica hasn't taken the obvious route and embraced the current fashion for 'retro' design with an interchangeable-lens version of its X Vario APS-C compact. Instead the Leica T is an innovative camera that combines photographer-friendly twin-dial control with a bang-up-to-date touchscreen interface.

Before we go any further, though, let's get the pricing out of the way. The Leica T is going to set you back £1350 for the body alone - a fraction more than the original X1. Two lenses will be available at launch; the 18-56mm f/3.5-5.6 zoom (27-84mm equivalent) will cost £1250, and the 23mm f/2 prime (which offers a 35mm equivalent angle-of-view) will be £1350. This places it in the same price bracket as the 36MP full frame Sony A7R as one of the most expensive mirrorless camera systems on the market, and means that only well-heeled photographers are likely to get their hands on one. Leica exists in a particularly rarefied space and, while the T is designed to appeal to a different type of buyer than either the X compacts or the M system, it is not in any way intended as a mass-market product.

This is a pity, because the Leica T turns out to be a really attractive camera. Its body is hewn from a single block of aluminum, which makes it an extraordinarily tactile, and rather beautiful object. It has five controls on its top plate - shutter button, video record button, power switch and two dials - but absolutely everything else is controlled via the large 3.7", 16:9 touchscreen. This, you can't help but feel, is the kind of camera that Apple might make, if it were so inclined.

Leica T key features:

  • 16MP APS-C CMOS sensor
  • ISO 100-12500
  • 3.7" 1.3M dot 16:9 touchscreen LCD
  • Twin top-plate control dials
  • Approx 5 fps continuous shooting
  • 1920 x 1080 Full HD movie recording at 30 fps; built-in stereo microphones
  • Built-in Wi-Fi for easy image sharing, and remote control by smartphone or tablet
  • Optional 2.36M dot electronic viewfinder with built-in GPS unit
  • Built-in 16GB memory
  • Brand new Leica T mount
  • 18-56mm f/3.5-5.6 and 23mm f/2 lenses
  • 11-23mm f/3.5-4.5 and 55-135mm f/3.5-4.5 coming later in the year (at photokina 2014)
  • Available in anodized black or natural aluminum finish

The back of the T is dominated by its large, 16:9 aspect ratio touchscreen, with no physical buttons whatsoever. The main exposure settings are controlled by a pair of top-plate dials, but almost everything else (settings and menus, playback and so on) is operated though a generally well-thought-out touch interface. The back of the camera also proudly proclaims 'Leica Camera Wetzlar Germany', celebrating the company's recent return to its spiritual home. The lenses, by the way, are made in Japan (apparently because Leica doesn't have sufficient capacity in Wetzlar), although contrary to pre-launch internet rumor, they're not made by Panasonic.

The T uses a 16MP APS-C CMOS sensor, with an ISO range from 100-12500. It offers 5fps continuous shooting, and Full HD movie recording with stereo sound. The camera uses an all-new, fully electronic 'T mount', but Leica will also be offering an adapter to allow use of M mount lenses. This has an optical sensor to read the 6-bit code used to identify modern lenses, and electronic contacts to pass this information to the camera.

Naturally the camera has built-in Wi-Fi; this allows both image transfer to a smartphone or tablet, and remote control of shooting (complete with live view feed). It has 16GB of built-in memory, meaning you don't even have to buy an SD card if you don't want to. The battery can be charged internally via the camera's micro USB port, but Leica includes an external charger in the box too, giving the best of both worlds.

'Unibody' design

Leica is very proud of the T's unique 'unibody' design. Most cameras are built around an internal chassis, with all of the electronics fixed to it and a body skin finally added over the top. Leica has done something completely different; instead the body is formed from a solid block of aluminum, with all of the electronics attached to it directly. The result is an extraordinarily tactile, solid-feeling object.

The Leica T's body is formed from a 1.2kg block of aluminum, which is machined down to 94g at Leica's factory in Wetzlar, then subjected 45 minutes of hand-polishing. The camera has no separate internal chassis; instead everything is attached to this shell. Now you know why it costs so much...

Lenses and accessories

The Leica T launches with two lenses, a zoom and a prime. The Vario-Elmar-T 18-56mm f/3.5-5.6 is a compact zoom that offers a 27-84mm equivalent range, while the Summicron-T 23mm f/2 ASPH is a small prime that offers a classic 35mm equivalent moderate wide-angle view. Both use a thoroughly modern design approach, with a fully-electronic mount, near-silent internal focusing, and electronically-coupled manual focus.

The first two lenses for the T system are the Summicron-T 23mm f/2 ASPH (left) and Vario-Elmar-T 18-56mm f/3.5-5.6. The Vario-Elmar-T 55-135mm f/3.5-4.5 ASPH telezoom and Super-Vario-Elmar-T 11-23mm f/3.5-4.5 ASPH wide-angle zoom are both scheduled to appear in time to be shown in September at photokina 2014.

Not unexpectedly these lenses are seriously pricey, at around $1500 / £1300 each (or roughly half the price of the camera / lens kit). The zoom doesn't even have optical image stabilization - Leica says it imposes too large a compromise on the optical design - which means the T is about the only system on the market with no image stabilization at all.

There's also a new optional electronic viewfinder, the Visoflex (Typ 020), which slides onto the hotshoe. It uses a new interface on the hot shoe itself, meaning that that it's not cross-compatible with the unit used for the X2, X Vario and M (Typ 240). Leica will also be offering a range of straps and covers in two distinct styles; either traditional-looking leather, or brightly-colored silicone rubber. We'll look at these in more detail later.

Color options and pricing

The T will be available in either a natural aluminum finish, or anodized black. Prices are as follows:

  • Leica T body (Black or Silver) - £1350
  • Vario-Elmar-T 18-56mm f/3.5-5.6 - £1250
  • Summicron-T 23mm f/2 ASPH - £1350
  • M-Adapter T mount adapter - £300
  • Visoflex (Typ 020) EVF - £400


If you're new to digital photography you may wish to read the Digital Photography Glossary before diving into this article (it may help you understand some of the terms used).

Conclusion / Recommendation / Ratings are based on the opinion of the reviewer, you should read the ENTIRE review before coming to your own conclusions.

We recommend to make the most of this review you should be able to see the difference (at least) between X,Y and Z and ideally A,B and C.

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Helena777

I don't understand this camera nor undertands the people who admire this extraordinaria piece of snobbery.

Put a NEX-3N sensor on a factory, remove the body of policarbonate and add a miraculous one block alu body. Plus, add a zaphire screen doing it resistant to scratches. Put highest quality components. Take in mind that workers income are in euros. Transport of components...across europe. All the manufacture is made with AAA+ grade. Well. We have a extraordinary camera. But its price is worth, even knowing what I said?? I think NO.

And then, comes the mind of the buyer: If the money is no problem, and the quality is what you want, OK, the price is ridiculous but tou take highest quality. BUT, if it is the sense of superior human, because you can pay that price tag, and you buy EGO, then you have a problem. Basically you are an idiot.

*** Philoshopically talking, everyone of us is a bit idiot :) ***

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hexxthalion

No offense, but just count the number of bodies you have in your gear section and their value ;) - btw, most of them based on the same sensor

0 upvotes
pixelpushing

And if those bodies in her gear section were Leica, she'd need to be a multimillionaire.

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hexxthalion

@pixelpushing - What I meant is they are all "pretty much" the same cup of tea and in combined value cost like this new T - it's just to give a bit more perspective on the value. UK price is actually good, £1350 for a Leica body seems unbelievable.

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kadardr

I would never buy this camera, because my priority is taking photos, and consider this as an unnecessarily pricey accessory, but I have two remarks:

1. I find the UI very which should followed and developed. In this regard the 3.7"LCD is a minimum size.

2. Leica should sell a rebadged Samsung NX mini as the Leica T* Mini.

0 upvotes
MayaTlab0

I haven't seen any mention of a dust cleaning system... is it absent ? If so, could it be a decision made to improve corner sharpness with Leica M lenses ?

1 upvote
Infared

If Leica (I mean Panasonic) had any BALLS...the would have made a white camera hand-tooled out of a solid block of ivory (damned the environmentalists).......with a SD-card door made of jade.

8 upvotes
EasyClick

Not impressed with image quality so far. Photos show softness at +f8. My Sony RX100 pocket camera gives better results!

0 upvotes
Mike Yorkshire

No built in viewfinder. Another proprietary lens mount. No sale.

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6 upvotes
Nick8

There are only 3 camera manufacturers making profit and Leica is one of them.
They are doing their homework right, obviously.
A stupid car costing millions is attracting fewer critics than an expensive and high quality camera, which is just slightly out of the reach for many people. I am one of those who cannot afford to buy it, but I would.

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dccdp

"A stupid car costing millions is attracting fewer critics than an expensive and high quality camera, which is just slightly out of the reach for many people."

Which doesn't make that stupid car less stupid. Au contraire...

1 upvote
ThePhilips

> A stupid car costing millions [...]

... has torque and horse powers to show for it. The expensive wood/carbon/leather finish is just a sugar coating, really.

This Leica T? Nothing really but the expensive finish. And another proprietary mount.

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Max Fun

I think most people miss the point that this will be a camera that will house Leica lenses. It's true that they already have the M, but that is larger system, with no AF and zoom (no, the Tri-Elmar does not count), ie. the standard for 'modern' photography. This is a new Leica for the modern generation, so if someone is not really into the whole PanaLeica system, this should be as close to a pure Leica modern system as one could get (if you discount the S of course).

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Shamael

let's now wait that Panasonic brings us the same camera with bit more plastic and 950$ lens included.

2 upvotes
Calvin Chann

And why would they do that?

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ThePhilips

Rumors say that Panasonic is a manufacturing partner, but the T cameras and lenses are going to be exclusive to Leica.

You can tell that Panasonic is only a manufacturer by the handicapped video capabilities of the T.

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PandaSA

Leica's Model T. :)

the two worst jobs in the world:
-- the person who spends all day sanding the edges.
-- the person who spends all day putting on the dot.

In a world of Prada, Gucci, Rolex, and Louis Vuitton, it makes sense.

Can't afford it, and wouldn't want to, but still... if I have a friend who gets one I'll go over to admire it.

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Blake Willis

This would have been somewhat interesting had Fuji not eaten (& continues eating) Leica's lunch starting a couple years ago with the X-system.

With yet another proprietary lens mount it's dead in the water for anyone outside the money-is-no-object target market.

It's unfortunate that they didn't take this opportunity to build something with an existing lens system, along with a host of fine lenses that users of other bodies would be drawn to. But then I guess they were never interested in being a volume player...

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Mustafa

All lens mounts are proprietary.

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ThePhilips

But some are less so.

Nikon's F-mount is open by virtue of Nikon never really bothering to patent/copyright/etc it.

Sony's E-mount is free/open (depending on whom you ask) to lens manufacturers.

Olympus/Panasonic MFT mount is open to members of the MFT consortium, to which theoretically any company can enter. (MFT consortium right now has more than 20 members now - http://www.four-thirds.org/en/contact/group.html . Fun fact: Leica is a member.)

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MarekS

It's an expensive piece of a jewelry combined with the manufacturer logo on it. Who cares about the rest. Some might afford it. Some might not.

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Shamael

all depends for what reason you buy it. Being a NEX3N with a high end alu body, it would not come in my mind to buy one. I can get a NEX3N with the same sensor as the T for 300$, lens included. So, buy a camera to shoot pictures, or buy one to be among the few who buy this crap, or do you really think that an aloy body and 3500$ price tag for the same inner life will make your day?

3 upvotes
mrmut

A beautiful ode to consumerism, mixed with an enormous amount of pretentiousness (just take a look at their advert). What everyone would appreciate is that they made a Micro 43 body with CCD sensor with no AA filter. Or something in that line. This "T" is just nonsense. (Make a T camera, and not make it from Titanium at that price point. I would like to see them bragging about machining titanium.)

The comments below about how long this product is built to last is also very interesting. Any electronic or mechanical camera system can last however long you want it to, given you service it when needed. And when service is in Q, any professional system will do the same. My 11 year old Olympus E-1 is routinely sent to service, and all is fine. Try that with M8.

This is another idiotic product for rich people that don't know sh*t about photography. And yes, Hasselblad Luna immediately came to my mind. These two, and Leica X cameras all go hand-in-hand.

3 upvotes
Norwegian wood

So it got GPS in the external viewfinder. Which silly engineer decided that? So When I shoot flash, or don't carry the external viewfinder I don't get GPS? Well...not a real problem for me since I don't aim to buy it, ever, but anyway...plain silly or did I miss something?

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asp1880

Perhaps it's an antenna thing, if the GPS signal can't penetrate the aluminum body shell?

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Norwegian wood

Could be, but the M had I think, the optimal solution in the extra grip. That way it will not take occupy the shoe, and the people wanting GPS could choose to use it whenever they want. Strange they did go for the awkward viewfinder GPS for the T. Its way more limitating.

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Steve_

"So it got GPS in the external viewfinder. Which silly engineer decided that?"

Looks like a bean-counter decision to me. After all, there's only so much profit in a $3500 Nex. I'm guessing Leica's salary load is pretty hefty. I know I won't be contributing.

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Naveed Akhtar

I like its looks .. it looks like-a leica!

1 upvote
straylightrun

Hey look, it's the NEX-3 with a red dot on it!

14 upvotes
Andrew Butterfield

I like it. It seems like a sensible move for Leica, takes them into a new market without degrading the brand. It looks really good and probably feels even better. It's not for everyone, but so what?

2 upvotes
Calvin Chann

It does feel amazing. The menu system is also amazing. I attended a European launch event and was sceptical before, but after I played with it, I was pretty much sold.

0 upvotes
DavidGBK

Leica make an alternate body ( To the M, MM, M9, M8) for their M lenses rather than let those body sales go to other brands.

0 upvotes
le_alain

The mount is FF !
:) :) :)

3 upvotes
letsgofishing

That solid block of aluminium is going to feel just peachy in winter for those users who live in climates where it snows...

3 upvotes
dccdp

It's not for them. It's only for the elite.

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badi

It would have been nice if the zoom lenses were some like their tri-elmar lenses for M. Also the aesthetics should be similar.
For the price... and sensor size... 3.5-5.6 sounds so... sad. Some Tri-Elmar 18-35-56 F/2.8 would make so much more sense ... or at least 3.5.

The body is beautiful, but it has to stay with some lens on it... and if the lens are not of the same style & beauty .... well...

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AndreaV

I think something like a Tri-Elmar makes sense on a rangefinder camera because there you can't really use a zoom due to the viewfinder... but with a camera like this it makes much more sense to have a zoom where you can choose anything from the full focal range.

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ThePhilips

"but with a camera like this it makes much more sense to have a zoom"

The question is: does Tri-Elmarit has IQ of a prime or of a zoom?

If it is former, then I want one for m43, please.

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letsgofishing

Form over function gone mad IMHO....

3 upvotes
SergeyMS

Technically it is absolutely not impressive. Hight price for nothing special.

6 upvotes
Calvin Chann
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samhain

Based on the fact nothing is interesting about it except for the solid aluminum unibody(and the red dot). Unless a $2000 slow zoom lens & $600 external evf gets you excited?
It has the same sensor/tech as the x-vario. And if I recall, the images got noisy after iso 400.
It's basically an aluminum x vario with a touchscreen & interchangeable lenses. And... That's not really exciting imo.
To each their own though.

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RichRMA

The lenses look remarkably like the m4/3'rds units Leica has made.

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Infared

You mean: "that Panasonic has made" , no?

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sandy b

Beautiful. And smart. The body itself would be cheaper to make than you might think. I work for an engineering firm and we have multi tool five axis CNC milling machines that could put out the raw machined body shown in about 15 min, we regularly churn out parts more complicated than that. Raw aluminum is not very expensive, and machines very easily. Hand finishing the body and assembling the electronics are certainly the most expensive part of the production.

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biza43

Expensive? That is relative. I am sure in the right hands will produce superb pictures. If you don't have the Money, why complain? I don't have the Money to buy it, but I can recognise it will be a hit. Leicas were always expensive, will be always expensive.

The camera body is made in Portugal, good for my country!

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dccdp

Having the money and wasting the money are two very different things.

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Suhas Sudhakar Kulkarni

when I read about the body only price, I thought I was day dreaming!Cheapo Leica? but then saw the kit lens price... it brought me back to the reality!

1 upvote
kewlguy

It's so cheap Leica could not even include an EVF at that price...

4 upvotes
jira

YAMC - Yet Another Mirrorless Camera

1 upvote
Rupert Bottomsworth

Do you say YADSLR every time a new DSLR comes on to the market?

8 upvotes
Naveed Akhtar

Yet another "miraculous" camera

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Lucas_

Very beautiful design, interesting set of features and accessories. Since it's a Leica, with all the passion and value that that entails, talking about the price isn't elegant as the camera is, so I keep my mouth shut. I remember when I had a Leica, an M2 plus two lenses: the Summicrons 50mm f2 and 90mm f2, back from 1970-1972. Just superb... not affordable any longer for me. This one has a Sony sensor, the NEX3's modified ( no anti-alias filter ) - sign of the times and another hit for Sony!

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Pat Cullinan Jr

Hmmm. If I just parachuted in and looked at these images, I would have thought they'd been made with a moderately priced camera. For example, image L1000279 (big bird balanced on a branch) doesn't look that sharp. The Fujifilm X100S looks better. Strictly unscientific opinion. Willing to hear from others.

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jira

Hmm, Leica without a viewfinder ...
What is the point of this camera again?

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Da Funk 1

Viewfinders are so mainstream

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tkbslc

Taking pictures?

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halfwaythere

You mean expensive one-of-a-kind pictures. :)

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dccdp

tkbslc: Sorry, but no one believes that this camera's purpose is to actually take pictures.

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HowaboutRAW

jira:

There's an external VF on can add.

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HowaboutRAW

dccdp:

Um, well you'll need lenses to take pictures with this camera, and most others. And in this case the lenses are the point.

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martindesu

I do not understand this product.

10 upvotes
Black Box

It's called a "camera". Look it up in a dictionary.

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CameraLabTester

"Nobody panics when cameras are released regularly according to plan..."

"But when one quirky camera with a red dot tries to copy the others who are at the head of the race... everyone loses their minds!"

.

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martindesu

Was going well until "loose" :/

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CameraLabTester

Yikes!
Correction made...
Thanks!

.

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martindesu

Perfect :)

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Gofindjp

Check out the Body and Design page image. See the twin arrows encircling the number 50 on the lens? That's about how many years that Leica lens is designed to last. Go and have a look at your late model Nikon, Canon, etc., lenses (it'll be on the box if not on the lens). I had the the Nikkor 12 to 24mm 2.8 briefly last year and it said 10. I guess that's why Leicas cost what they do. The lenses at least.

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gsum

Nikkor 28mm f3.5 H made in 1972. Still producing images on which you could cut yourself. Leica lenses are nothing special.

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AndreaV

Also my canons from the 70s are still producing great images, but the modern ones doesn't look that sturdy (only a few L glasses does).
Anyway I still use a 9cm Elmar from 1939 that after 75years works like the first day!

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tkbslc

$1500 18-55 kit zoom?

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Infared

AND with no IS...hee hee

2 upvotes
shigzeo

Ridiculous product. For the same price I could purchase 1500 bags of Jelly Bellies.

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shigzeo

And still have money left over to visit the dentist.

14 upvotes
martindesu

Even a US dentist?

5 upvotes
Pat Cullinan Jr

Heck, I could buy enough paint to coat the whole mother ship and have enough to do the rocking chair.

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shigzeo

@Pat, now we're talking. I mean, I could purchase, and build thirty three metre-diamatre elastic band balls and still have the dosh left over to do an 8-hour rockathon naked.

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shigzeo

@Martin: next beer's on you, bub.

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MM67

Hilarious. I think that $100 turd of a case proves Leica knows it's new 'base' will buy anything if it's overpriced enough. It matches those ghastly neon sneakers I see everyone wearing while on holiday in NYC. This isn't sour grapes: I owned and loved using my M-6s for decades. I'm so glad the object of my young gadget lust was a beautifully styled/built juggernaut of a camera. Not some shiny, mediocre-spec laden novelty. Someone's got to pay the bills at Solms I guess!

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T3

Yep, sounds like sour grapes, alright. LOL. You seem to forget that, in its time, there were plenty of other photographers who considered your beloved M6's to be nothing but overpriced, over-romanticized, shiny, anachronistic novelties for people with more money than brains. Now, you're exhibiting the ultimate in hypocrisy by approving of your own appreciation for your Leicas, while ridiculing any appreciation for this new Leica. If anything, your Leica M6's (adjusted for today's dollars, and taking into account that they were little more than glorified light-tight boxes that held film) were *FAR* more overpriced than this Leica T. A new Leica M7 costs a whopping $5K. Surely, for that price, film must be included, right? No? Do you get an APS-C sensor for that money? Any internal memory? A large rear LCD? AF? Nope, just an overpriced, shiny, sub-mediocre-spec novelty. LOL. The reality is that for what people paid for M6's, it makes the T seem like a bargain.

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MM67

Thanks, T3, for taking the time to write a lengthy response. I agree with you whole-heartedly, but your diatribe, unfortunately, is based on assumptions. A little history: I was a broke painter/musician for years who got lucky and twice found used M-6s for excellent prices. I knew Leicas were crazy expensive, but we desire what we desire, and I like rangefinders. The M-6 in its venerable lifespan was/is still far more future-proof than basically all digital cameras will ever be (as long as they keep making film). Problem is, you have to understand the principles of photography to actually use one. People don't like that anymore.

Anytime I start falling prey to the glitz and glamour of the 'modern' world, I just hit the website below and am reminded how unbelievably lucky we all are to have computers and the time to waste writing silly comments about a great company that is now largely making functional jewelry. Check it out, brother, it's an eye-opener:
http://www.globalrichlist.com

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Serickmetz

Sexy! Hands down will blow away pathetic m4/3 and all current Aps-c cameras. Unfortunately you have to pay the price for perfection.

3 upvotes
BartyLobethal

I appreciate irony, but be careful - many others will think you are being serious.

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love_them_all

Who cares if this is a camera or not. It's a solid block of shiny metal that you can hang around your neck. I already asked if they can do a solid gold ver for me. 18k of course. My buddy from dubai is thinking of doing a solid platinum one. He is low profile.

8 upvotes
OliverGlass

The lenses are probably more expensive than my kidneys

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Mrrowe8

C'mon even hipsters aren't this stupid are they ? Who is falling for this piece of bile ..

3 upvotes
HowaboutRAW

So you're not one interested in subtle color and and overall very high image quality.

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fakuryu

So what is special about this Leica compared to the rest of the mirrorless market?

IMHO Leica is a special camera as they are able to fit a 135 sensor in something as compact as a rangefinder and in tandem with their excellent FF lenses.

So how does this compare and differentiate itself to Sony, Fuji, Samsung (you can also throw a Pentax K01 in the mix) when it comes to IQ? None really, the competition is so tight it will be hard to differentiate what is what.

So how about the lenses now? Nothing also really since other manufacturers also produce top quality optics on par with any other company. Mostly it is ignorance and badge snobbery.

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ZoranHR

You could say same for Fuji XT-1 or Olympus EM-1. In wich way they offer more than say Nikon 3300,5300 to justify they price?

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hawk1500

you mean like 1/8000 shutter, more fps, ability to adapt a bunch of lenses, smaller/lighter, weather sealed, etc.?

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T3

Lay people have been saying "Leica's aren't really that special" ever since the film days. But Leica people obviously feel quite differently. For one thing, they appreciate the unique build quality of Leica bodies. For example, Leica rangefinders use milled brass top and bottom plates. In the case of the Leica T, it uses a body milled from a solid block of aluminum. Not everything is about speeds and feeds (specs).

And as for competition, anyone interested in a Leica really isn't going to be shopping around for the best value camera. It's the same way that some people don't shop around for the best value in a car; some people just want a particular brand of car because that's what they want, and they have the money to afford it. There are plenty of people who go out and buy a $150K car, even though there are a lot cars that offer better bang for your buck.

I have female friends who own purses costing $5,000. These purchases aren't about absolute practicality or value.

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Zvonimir Tosic

You are talking about economy of scale and deliberate loss some companies are willing to take.

To Olympus camera business is in loss for years, Fuji sells cameras at the cost price or less and making no profit so it can make some through lens sales, but which is nullified through distribution and marketing cost. Sony's cameras are same trouble for them, but they have profits from the sensor manufacturing business.

So when you compare the prices and condemn one company that actually sells by the marketing book rules, tell me, (1) what values are you comparing actually?, (2) what business model do you condemn, and (3) which one is actually sustainable and can ensure healthy future development?

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Mike99999

@Zohan: fast native primes, accurate autofocus. At least that's why I dumped my Nikon.

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HowaboutRAW

fak:

Clearly you've never used even half way decent lenses from Leica if you think many manufacturers can match that optical performance. Zeiss can. On a good day Samsung (Optron) can, but Fuji is nowhere near as good.

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jrg

Overpriced and over-hyped.

1 upvote
JDOnrust

Pfffff..... I think I just fell in love...

3 upvotes
DStudio

I'm amazed at how quickly the comments have come in!

More comments than usual - yet shorter.

I think most of us can't quite understand these expensive Leica cameras. Few of us own one, so we're looking in from the outside, trying to comprehend.

But two points are hard to argue with: Leica makes quality (including some of the world's best optics), and many owners love them.

3 upvotes
Storky

The entire point of Leica is that it is very expensive. That is what makes it exclusive and desirable (for some people).

0 upvotes
Stephen Scharf

I've got an interchangeable mirrorless compact carved from a solid billet of polycarbonate! ;-) It uses lenses every bit as good as Leica's, has a flip-out LCD, twin dial controls, and image quality as good as any APS-C camera. Better yet, it cost me less than $500....my Fuji X-A1!

4 upvotes
blink667

Beautiful camera, but $2000 for $500 worth of performance?

6 upvotes
Stephen Scharf

Exactly what I was thinking. See my post above about my carved from polycarbonate billet X-A1! ;-)

1 upvote
T3

So? I have male friends who spend $5000 on a watch that doesn't tell time any better than a $35 Casio. I have female friends who spend $5000 on a purse that doesn't carry their lipstick any better than a $35 purse. Not every purchase is a pure value calculation, especially when you get into the upper levels of income and when it comes to premium goods.

7 upvotes
Couscousdelight

"...who spend $5000 on a purse that doesn't carry their lipstick any better than a $35 purse..."
Idiots ?

5 upvotes
rdscibilia

So...is a Leica "high maintenance?" :)

1 upvote
Pat Cullinan Jr

All off a sudden I feel like entering a monastery in the Egyptian desert.

0 upvotes
JadedGamer

A $1000 gold ring is no more useful than a $1 plastic ring from a toy store, yet woe unto the husband-to-be who goes with his fiancée to the jeweler and asks "do you have something cheap"?

1 upvote
steve ohlhaber

As soon as it doesn't fit in your pocket, just go FF.

3 upvotes
MaxiMax

Hmmm.... something strange going on between Sony and Leica, and Sony and Hassy.

0 upvotes
Everlast66

Looks like offspring of the NEX7 and Pentax K-01, hehe

http://camerasize.com/compact/#33,551,285,ha,t

Luckily, it inherited more from the NEX and less from the K-01. Leica just gave a little camera design lesson to Marc Newson.

2 upvotes
whtchocla7e

It's funny that even Leica releases a serious mirror-less system to the market before Canon and Nikon do... The CaNikon boys are stuck in a time warp.

6 upvotes
WACONimages

The Nikon 1 series, especially the V1, V2 and now V3 are more serious as many image! A camera is more as its sensor size alone.... This Leica can do things the 1-series can't, but also vice versa!

2 upvotes
Everlast66

@WACONimages
Yeah, especially the V1 with a single dial that can select between Motion Snapshot, Smart Photo Selector, Still Image and Movie!!
Thats a serious camera right there /s

P.S. The V1/J1 announcement was what made me end my long wait for Nikon to release a good mirror-less camera and made me get an NEX 5N, which turned out to be a brilliant decision looking back.

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4 upvotes
Mike99999

You are funny considering that this Leica is almost an exact clone of the Canon EOS M.

1 upvote
BarnET

the eos M was an Samsung NX clone.
Autofocus is no good and so was the handling with zero physical controls.

However samsung moved on and improved still waiting for canon to do that.

0 upvotes
badi

i was so totally thinking that this is kind of expensive, then i remembered about the price of the 1 system... well... Leica T is cheap...

1 upvote
hexxthalion

Leica have had mirrorless system out for quite some time ;) they released first mirrorless camera (M8), they released first FF mirrorless camera that could adapt other lenses (M240). Now they have released, first for them, AF mirrorless camera.

0 upvotes
John Roy

Infrared, it hasn't got any sort of battery door, plastic or otherwise. The bottom of the battery sits flush with the camera body.

0 upvotes
Infared

Sorry...it's a plastic card-slot door...the inference is the same.....
My name is Infared....(see...you can make mistakes, too! :-)
...and what does the VF cost???? LOL!

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Pat Cullinan Jr

>what does the VF cost????

$672.

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