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Canon EOS M hands-on preview

July 2012 | By Andy Westlake


Preview based on a pre-production Canon EOS M

It's now almost four years since Panasonic first introduced us to the mirrorless interchangeable lens camera, in the shape of the Micro Four Thirds Lumix DMC-G1. Since then, all of the other major manufacturers have entered the fray, in the process offering cameras in a variety of shapes and sizes - from diminutive beginner-friendly models such as the Olympus PEN E-PM1, to unashamedly high-end models like the Sony NEX-7 and Fujifilm X-Pro1. Nikon, meanwhile, has ploughed its own individual furrow with its family-friendly 1 J1 and 1 V1 models. This simply reflects the fact that different cameras are targeted to different kinds of users - be they serious enthusiasts looking for a small, highly capable camera, or compact-camera upgraders looking for SLR-like image quality in a smaller, easier-to-use package.

Canon is the last big player to show its hand, and its initial entrant - the EOS M - is unashamedly targeted to the latter group of users. To all intents and purposes it's a mirrorless version of the recently-announced EOS 650D, but with a simpler interface that's designed to be more approachable for novice users, and obviously much more compact in size. It's based around a new 'EF-M' lens mount, and two matched lenses will be available at launch: the EF-M 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM zoom, and the EF-M 22mm f/2 STM 'pancake' prime. But it's still very much part of the EOS system, and all of the company's existing EF and EF-S SLR lenses can be used via the co-announced 'Mount adapter EF-EOS M'.

The EOS M features a compact, magnesium-alloy body, and will be available in four colours - black, white, silver and red. It has no built-in flash, but instead a hot shoe on the top plate, and in many markets (although not the US) it will come bundled with the new AAA-powered Speedlite 90EX unit. There's neither a built-in viewfinder, nor connector for an external unit - composition is solely using the camera's rear screen (which is fixed, rather than articulated).

Canon EOS M key features

  • New EF-M lens mount (optimized for APS-C sensor size)
  • 18MP APS-C 'Hybrid CMOS' sensor
  • Continuous autofocus in movie mode with subject tracking
  • 14-bit DIGIC5 processor
  • ISO 100-12800 standard, 25600 expanded
  • 4.3 fps continuous shooting, 3 fps with autofocus tracking
  • 1080p30 video recording, stereo sound (with 25p or 24p options)
  • External microphone socket and adjustable sound recording level
  • 1040k dot 3:2 touch-sensitive ClearView II LCD (capacitative type, multi-touch support)
  • Standard EOS hot-shoe for external flash (no built-in flash)
  • 'Creative Filters' image-processing controls, previewed live on-screen
The EOS M will be available in four colours - silver, red, black or white - although they may not all be sold in all markets.

The EOS M's commitment to simplicity is reflected by its physical control layout, with buttons and dials kept to a minimum. The exposure mode dial - a staple of Canon's EOS range for over 20 years - has been reduced to just three positions, distinctly reminiscent of the company's Ixus / Elph compacts. The rear of the camera is also rather compact-esque, with a familiar combined 4-way controller / settings dial and just a smattering of buttons.

The lack of physical controls is, however, substantially made up for by the large capacitative touchscreen on the back. This uses much the same interface that Canon introduced on the EOS 650D, and stands out as the most usable, comprehensive and engaging touchscreen that we've yet seen on an interchangeable-lens camera. But whereas on the 650D its use is very much optional, on the EOS M it becomes the preferred method of interaction with the camera.

Because mirrorless cameras have struggled to make headway in the US, Canon is only going to sell one kit option in this market. Targeting an enthusiast buyer, the camera plus 22mm pancake will be available from speciality photo stores only for $799, with the 18-55mm zoom sold separately for $299. The company will also be emphasizing its video capabilities, which are essentially the same as the EOS 650D but in a smaller, cheaper package.

Movies can be recorded in Full HD 1920x1080 resolution at 30, 25 or 24 fps with stereo sound, using the highly-compatible MOV format and H.264 compression, with a time limit of 29 min 59 sec per clip. The EOS M offers a choice of either fully automatic exposure in video mode, or as much manual control as the user wishes to take. The 3-10x electronic zoom first seen on the EOS 600D, but mysteriously missing from the EOS 650D, is also available - with minimal loss of quality at the 3x setting.

New EF-M lens mount

A new mirrorless system needs a new lens mount, which Canon has called EF-M to emphasis its continued compatibility with the company's existing EF mount for autofocus SLRs. It's a fully-electronic bayonet mount, with 9 contacts between the lens and camera. Unusually, the white dot for aligning the lens is at the 11 0'clock position on the mount.

The EF-M mount is 58mm in diameter, with a flange distance of 18mm from the bayonet to the sensor. As the image above clearly shows it's matched specifically to the APS-C sensor size. So don't expect a future full frame EF-M mount camera - it's not going to happen.

Like all other mirrorless cameras, the EOS M's shutter is open by default even when the camera is turned off, exposing the sensor. This may seem disconcerting to SLR owners, but we've never experienced any problem with this approach. Like Canon's live view-capable SLRs the EOS M uses an electronic first curtain to activate the exposure, and the physical shutter is only used to end it. This helps reduces shutter lag and keep shutter noise down - meaning the EOS M is one of the quieter models of its type.

Two new EF-M lenses: EF-M 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and EF-M 22mm f/2.0 pancake

The EOS M is released with two new lenses for the EF-M mount - an 18-55mm image-stabilized standard zoom and a compact, 'pancake' prime. Both feature Canon's 'STM' stepper motor for autofocus, which allows near-silent refocusing during video recording. This means electronically-coupled 'focus-by-wire' manual focus; thankfully though Canon hasn't been tempted to discard physical focus rings. However there are no switches to set the focus or IS mode - these are controlled from the camera.

Canon EF-M 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and EF-M 22mm f/2.0 STM

The lenses use minimalistically-styled, plain cylindrical barrels that bear more than a passing resemblance to Sony's NEX series optics. In terms of dimensions they're fairly typical for their class, which means they're smaller than corresponding SLR lenses; the zoom is near-identical in size to the Sony E 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 OSS, whereas the pancake is very similarly-sized to Panasonic's Lumix G 20mm F1.7 ASPH.

As the only cameras we've seen so far are pre-production, it's premature to say much about focus speed. But while on first impressions the 18-55mm focuses pretty quickly, the 22mm is distinctly slower. This is not totally surprising given that the entire optical unit racks back and forth for focusing; this is not a design approach that's ever been associated with ultra-fast focusing on this type of lens. But we'll wait for production cameras and lenses to make a proper judgement.

Lens specifications

 

Canon EF-M 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6
IS STM

Canon EF-M 22mm f/2 STM
 Format  APS-C  APS-C
 Focal length  18-55mm  22mm
 35mm-equiv focal length  29-88mm  35mm
 Diagonal angle of view  74°20' - 25°70'  63°30'
 Maximum aperture  1:3.5-5.6  1:2
 Lens construction  13 elements / 11 groups  7 elements / 6 groups
 Focus motor type  Linear Stepper Motor  Linear Stepper Motor
 Focus method  • Internal focus
 • Focus-by-wire manual focus
 • Unit focus
 • Focus-by-wire manual focus
 Zoom method  Rotary, extending barrel  n/a
 Minimum focus distance  0.25m / 0.82 ft  0.15m / 0.49 ft
 Filter thread  • 52mm
 • Does not rotate on focusing
 • 43mm
 • Does not rotate on focusing
 Dimensions  60.9 x 61mm (2.39 x 2.4 in)  60.9 x 23.7mm (2.38 x 0.93 in)
 Weight  210g (7.4oz)  105g (3.7 oz)

Size compared

The EOS M is a small camera - indeed one of the smallest APS-C models around. Here we compare it to the EOS 650D and Panasonic Lumix DMC-GF3.

Here's the EOS M with the 22mm f/2 next to the camera with which it share its innards - the EOS 650D with EF 40mm f/2 STM lens. As you can see, eliminating the reflex mirror and optical viewfinder has enabled a dramatic reduction in size.
Here's the EOS M side-by-side with the Panasonic Lumix GF3 - a model that's similarly-aimed at compact camera upgraders, and one of the smallest mirrorless cameras around (it's since been replaced by the similar-size GF5). Both cameras use a touchscreen to complement their limited array of physical controls, but the GF5 has a built-in flash rather than a hot shoe. It also uses the slightly smaller Four Thirds sensor.


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26AEB270D33248B3B40B603EDDD48C61

I forgot to add to my list of complaints... My Canon DSLRs (350D and 600D) have lenses generally with a 58mm filter size....

Guess what? I now have a camera with 2 lenses both of which are not only incompatible with my 58mm filters but also with each other!!! The zoom thread is 52mm, and the other 22mm lens has a 43mm thread despite being the same size barrel!!

Who designed this? Canon, do you think I like lugging around tons of camera kit when I travel? Please spare a thought for us traveling photographers and try to make everything properly compatible with the DSLRs (including a decent battery) on your next attempt.

Great images, but what is this camera supposed to be and why is this not the G16 replacement I paid for?

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Dr Aref
By Dr Aref (1 week ago)

Hey Canon wake up. Please observe the mirrorless ILCs that are bursting around you. EOS M is a good camera for still shots, but not a great one. It is high time to come with EOS M II with -
1. Better sensor (like the 70D sensor with better focusing capability)
2. Tilting LCD, at least vertical tilting to get the advantage of 0.15m close
focusing ability of EFM 11-22mm in low angle shot and also for macro works
3. Electronic viewfinder either built in or add on
4. Better grip to hold the camera (it wanted slip of my hands several times)
5. The battery life is very poor. If the battery type could not be changed, then a
built in electronic viewfinder will enhance the battery life.

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26AEB270D33248B3B40B603EDDD48C61

My 6th Canon camera and the EOS-M is a big disappointment. Images are good but the user interface is terrible. Handling is poor. Hard to hold without accidentally resetting something OR blocking the autofocus beam which is stupidly placed right where your hand needs to be to steady the zoom lens. And I don't even have big hands.

No built in flash. Poor battery life. (Really poor compared to my G12.) Lack of manual buttons. Proprietary strap lugs so you can't use a generic strap.

Worst of all - the focus position cannot be centre locked, so if you accidentally touch the screen, you end up focusing on something you don't want to. In fact, there doesn't seem to be any lock for the touch screen and I've ended up taking photos when the camera was resting on my chest.

Nice idea but very badly executed. Canon should have done better.

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robinl59
By robinl59 (2 months ago)

I finally cracked and decided that Thom Hogan is right - leave the 22mm lens in place and you have a very pocketable camera which can certainly rival the Nikon A, Ricoh GR nd other luxury single fl cameras at a bargain basement price. My initial analysis is that IQ is very good and AF is a little slow. Anyway, my point is don't dismiss this camera out-of-hand ...... actually its pretty good.

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buzzbob
By buzzbob (2 months ago)

In case some don't know this, dpreview never upset Canon. They will never review one of their products they can't say nice things about and if a review is missing you can take it that in their opinion, the camera is lousy. Anyway, you will never see a review of this camera because they always bottle it when it comes to the crunch. Maybe they have to, but it sure does stink a bit

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Stephane R
By Stephane R (2 months ago)

I bought one yesterday and I absolutely love it for still photography. For moving subjects, it's not the right camera; other than that i am so far very satisfied with this purchase. I also ordered the adapter so that i can attach my glasses to it, hopefully i won't be disappointed. I did experience once in a while the AF issue and it did not really bother me that much (latest fw is 2.02). It seems like the quality of the pictures are as good as a 7D, for sure they are much better than my old T2i. I'm also wondering how this camera could turn out in macro-photography with the 100 mm lens.

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NickL01
By NickL01 (3 months ago)

I bought an EOS-M at the discounted price about 3 weeks ago.

It's a superb little camera. I read all the comments about autofocus speed, but it's not an issue for me. It might be a tad slower on the spec sheets than other cameras, I know not, but in real world use it's fine. No signs of it having to hunt significantly more often than any other autofocus I've owned (rather too many...). It happily locked on to the Red Arrows screaming over my house at a few hundred feet, which is a reasonable challenge. (I'd updated the firmware by then, but it was OK before)

Not having a viewfinder has always been a deal breaker for me, because of screen visibility. Not an issue. It's entirely usable with unshaded sunlight falling directly on the screen.

I'm amazed at how easy it is to grip and hold steady - with big hands I usually struggle with small cameras.

I envisage my DSLRs staying home more often. I think I may finally have found my ideal walk round camera... Absolutely delighted!

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vroger1
By vroger1 (2 months ago)

Just bought it- and I mean JUST from Amazon with the 22- The APS-C sensor got me- I intend using My 50mm EOS Canon with it. As far as the v/f is concerned I will use accessory optical v/fs. I would think that being a Canon the image results should be very good. As to IQ I have heard no complaints. I believe that they brought out a "fix" upgrade for focussing speed.

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Gerardjan
By Gerardjan (2 months ago)

Agree with you totally! It has an amazing IQ, with the slow AF one can learn to live.Just set it on your favorite position and start taking pictures. I just wonder, will there EVER be a review?

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Playful
By Playful (3 months ago)

I have a canon eos m w/ the 22mm lens. Is there another way to zoom besides clicking on the magnifying glass at the bottom right corner? If not, should I return this kit and buy the 18-55mm kit?

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

22mm lens does not zoom, period. The magnifying glass just magnifies the display, it doesn't zoom the image.

If you wanted a lens that zooms, then yes you should trade for the 18-55. Keep in mind the 22mm lens is much more compact and with its f2 aperture will be better in low light, so some of us think this compensates for the lack of zoom.

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Kurnia Lim
By Kurnia Lim (3 months ago)

yeah, that's prime lens so it doesn't zoom, however that 22mm can produce good IQ

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (3 months ago)

It's funny to look back at the older comments. As I write this, Canon is blowing out the EOS M at $300 with lens. Why? Because they made some horrible "fail"? Because they are embarrassed and humiliated? Ah...no. Because they are a really big camera company and they can afford to unload the first model, if that's what it takes to build a consumer base eager to get more lenses and better bodies. How successful is this strategy? Right now, the slow focusing, viewfinder-less EOS M is the #1 selling camera on Amazon.

I bought one to use as a doorstop but it's turning out to be sort of fun with the finger squeezing thing on the LCD. If I keep it, I'll get the wide angle zoom and Canon will make their money back.

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joe1512
By joe1512 (3 months ago)

Despite all the griping, its CHEAP! 300 bucks and it is comparable to the Ricoh GR and the other $800+ APC-S prime lens cameras out there. Very compact, same sensor pretty much, same IQ, and good 2.0 aperature.

Sure it might have slower autofocus or whatever, but heck... for 1/3rd the price?

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Kurnia Lim
By Kurnia Lim (3 months ago)

I don't mind for slower autofocus, beside it depends on what kind of photography everyone loved? For me, I only like flowers, Long exposure and landscape, I don't like to take people's photo or sport, so AF is not a problem for me. However lack of viewfinder make it harder to take picture under bright sunlight.

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Mssimo
By Mssimo (3 months ago)

Just got discounted to $300 with 22mm lens in most online stores.

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dISEr
By dISEr (3 months ago)

The "preview" was issued a year ago. The camera is already discounted by some stores as somewhat old model. Any chance to see a real review of the only mirror-less camera by Canon? Otherwise it seems like one terrible camera, even dpreview refused to test it :(

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username123
By username123 (3 months ago)

I updated my EOS M firmware and am quite pleased with the results.

In bright light the autofocus speed has improved when using single point focus and the 22mm f2 lens. Rather zippy, in fact. In poor light there is quite a notable improvement in autofocus speed and almost no "hunting".

As I said in an earlier post here, "I do like this camera. Don't write it off."

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Skrocki
By Skrocki (4 months ago)

I can't believe there is no full review of the Canon EOS-M or any report of the newly released firmware update 2.0.2 in DPREVIEW. The faster autofocus, a newly released wide angle stabilized zoom combined with a greatly reduced price make this camera an attactive alternative to competitors.

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Dames01
By Dames01 (5 months ago)

Was interested in this camera, as a walkabout camera, as soon as it came out but was put off by the negative reviews on the AF speed and the price. However the latter having dropped by almost 1/2 I bought one online in order to be able to return it if I was not happy with it. That was just over 1 month ago and I have decided to keep it.
The AF performance with the kit zoom is much better than what I feared. In the large majority of cases, the AF has locked on by the time I have composed the picture, ~ 1 sec. Only very occasionally the AF is unable to lock.
I am a Canon user (5d mkII) and the ability to put on some EF primes (50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8, etc) is a real bonus.
Another great thing is the fact that the flash unit supplied has a transmitter to set off other Speedlites.
I like the design and the handling as well as the touchscreen are great. It would be nice to be able to attach a OVF to it, but other than this I highly recommend this camera.

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950sm07
By 950sm07 (4 months ago)

Same here. Bought it for 1/2 price a month ago for biking and hiking where I don't want to carry the 5DIII and this little baby turned out to be amazing. I was skeptical because of the negative reviews about the AF but in real use it's really not that bad and the IQ is great. I bought two extra batteries from ebay because the original one goes empty quickly but now the three batteries last for a whole day.
I had a NEX-5N before and hated its touchscreen (and the whole menu system) but luckily Canon figured out the way to do it properly and I really like it on the M.
Agree on the OVF but it's a compromise that I'm willing to make because it's a great little camera with super build quality and IQ.

P.S.:The firmware update is coming soon and Canon promises a faster AF with it. :)

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Dames01
By Dames01 (4 months ago)

The point with the OVF is that as soon as you attach certain prime EF lenses, it would be partially blocked. For using the 22mm pancake, it is possible to attach OVF made for other cameras with fixed 35mm lenses, eg Voigtlander or Leica which attach to the flash hotshoe.

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rchwallace
By rchwallace (5 months ago)

Just tested this in the shop and was totally geeked out by the touch screen..."touch and shoot". I thought it was actually relatively fast considering I touched the screen and it focused on the subject there and took the picture all at the same time. Very cool.

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gdfthr73
By gdfthr73 (5 months ago)

I just Got this camera yesterday and I feel like all the negative reviews of this camera are ridiculous. Claims of slow start up time and shutter lag are false. Either these are blatant lies or are based on earlier firmware. I would not put this camera in the fastest category but it is fast enough for any normal human.

I also have a Sony NEX 7, which is no faster starting up and only marginally faster focusing.
The build quality is amazing. It feels like it was made from a solid piece of granite.

Amazing image quality and versatility (especially for Canon users)
All in a beautiful simple design with subtle curves that are hard to appreciate from pictures. Hold one in your hand and you begin to appreciate the design.

I will admit that the focusing is not the fastest but so what.

If you have to have the fastest focusing speed possibly you probably do not care about composition or light and have no business being behind a real camera anyway.

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Robert Krawitz
By Robert Krawitz (6 months ago)

I just bought one with the 22 pancake (and another with the 18-55 as a gift). Got a very attractive price for a gray market.

My primary body is a 7D (actually a pair of 'em). But I think I'm going to like this little puppy for going walkabout. Yes, I prefer to compose through a viewfinder, and no, this doesn't have one. But the size -- with the 22 f/2, it's lighter and much smaller than my SX-1 (which EVF I really don't care for, anyway) -- is extremely attractive for going places where I don't want to take a heavier load and/or don't want to draw attention to myself. And of course, it can AF during video, which the 7D can't. I've ordered a third party adapter to use my other lenses with, but I suspect a lot of the time I'll just stick with the 22. I look at it as a classic rangefinder with a 35 f/3.2.

The AF takes some getting used to, but my sense is that it's not too bad as long as I don't try to go beyond its capabilities.

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InsertTextHere
By InsertTextHere (7 months ago)

I have to say that it is a bit tiring to read all of the negativity about this camera in these forums. It may not be perfect, but show me a camera that is.

I've had mine for over a month now and am very happy with it. It is a great camera to accompany me on my adventures. It is more compact than a DSLR, and also many of the other mirrorless cameras. It fits great into my backpack when I go hiking, climbing or kayaking. I haven't been inconvenienced at all by the supposedly slow autofocus. I've taken great scenery and low light photos with it. I will be heading out this weekend to photograph comet Pan-STARRS.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (7 months ago)

a "me too" product to put them in the mirrorless category, because appearances are everything - "look, we have mirrorless too, but..." (says the salesman)

yet handicapped so there isn't a chance of putting even a dent in their mirror business... or even in the mirrorless competition. even the design screams of amateurism - in contrast to a Rebel that at least looks like a serious camera.

bland vanilla

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Rob E
By Rob E (10 months ago)

I sure am a fan of this camera. Been using it for a while now to document my skate- and snowboarding. Before I used a 600d but this size is more relevant for me. You could get footage like:

http://www.tacky.nl/surf/video/?id=251891

or

http://www.tacky.nl/skateboard/video/?id=251914

I like it!

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username123
By username123 (10 months ago)

I purchased one (with fixed 35mm eq) to replace my Nikon D80 / 17-55 2.8; too much to carry about.

First got a Fuji XF1, not happy with images, returned it. Then wanted to get an X100. Played with the EOSM and chose it over the X100.

Image quality is excellent.

I do like the touch screen. Odd, as I am a viewfinder / button / dial freak.

It does not draw attention to itself. It just looks like a slightly bulky compact camera.

Oh yes, the autofocus is not great, but nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe. Try one out in store for yourself.

I do like this camera. Don't write it off.

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Prairie Pal
By Prairie Pal (5 months ago)

I am putting off further investments in Nikon and M4/3 systems as long as I can in order to wait and see where Canon takes their compact DX platform. I've always preferred Canon for their IQ and ergonomics in compacts. I would love to be able to pare down my closet of multi brand equipment to just Canon for FX and compact DX.

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Sad Joe
By Sad Joe (11 months ago)

Gotta say - just played with my 1st EOS - M and am impressed! I'm off to Warner Studios Harry Potter Tour next week - will take a whole lotta kit.. wish I was taking an ESO-M !

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fred 76
By fred 76 (11 months ago)

This SLR is of no use in astro-photography :

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/11/canon-eos-m-no-remote-shooting/

Remote Capture is impossible with it !

That's crazy for such an expensive camera.

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fred 76
By fred 76 (11 months ago)

Tethered shooting is not allowed, and Live View through the computer screen is also not allowed.

This appears to be a last minute decision from Canon's marketing team since these functions were listed in the preliminary specification (as of early oct 2012).

The EOS M should therefore be rebranded as "Powershot M" instead of "EOS M".

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netjunkie9
By netjunkie9 (10 months ago)

SLR?

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fred 76
By fred 76 (9 months ago)

Sorry I dropped the "D" !

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akjos
By akjos (11 months ago)

Whoever designed the body should be SO
fired... Even gf3 is more appealing :/

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Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (11 months ago)

Did Gumby design that ? It will look good on the shelf at Walmart.

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robjons
By robjons (11 months ago)

ditto here: "no viewfinder = no purchase"

Also, re lens size: "...which means they're smaller than corresponding SLR lenses;" If its an APS-C sensor, why can't APS-C SLR lenses be this small?

Also, why the new mount? The standard Canon SLR mount wouldn't fit?

Also, why no innovative, i.e., integrated shape. Its a Sony NEX-like can stuck on a bar of soap. How about this: a cylindrical shape extending from the lens that morphs into a handle?
Whatever; Not for me anyway.

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (7 months ago)

Why new mount: backfocus distance has to be reduced, or you will have camera as deep as one with a mirrorbox, which defeats the purpose (think Pentax K01). You can still buy an overpriced adaptor to use old lenses with it, that adds the distance needed for them to focus if you like.

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RoccoGalatioto
By RoccoGalatioto (11 months ago)

To me it's simple no viewfinder= no purchase. I simply cannot use a camera that I have to hold in front of me. During the day they are useless and when you use it you look ridiculous. For that I can get a lousy smart phone. What were they thinking. At least allow the possibility to have an EVF. Sorry Canon, no sigar.

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bruce20D
By bruce20D (11 months ago)

agreed .. no viewfinder = non-starter for me. the NEX-6 looks like my NEXt camera (with the gorgeous 35mm f1.8 prime)

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Timmbits
By Timmbits (7 months ago)

That's the point... they have you thinking of getting a Rebel, instead of a NX or NEX or MFT.

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Marco Nero
By Marco Nero (11 months ago)

Picked mine up yesterday to use with my other Canon L-series lenses and it's a great camera. Size is just a little bigger than the s95 and a little smaller than the G1X. Picture quality and AF is going to vary based on the lens used. Good lens = excellent images. I tested the 18-55mm-M lens and found it to be VERY fast in relation to Auto Focus. The 22mm-M lens is known to be slower for some reason. The touchscreen is actually very responsive and fast to alter settings with. Being an APS-C sensor, I can get some very lowlight handheld shots with this camera. Works well with my L-lenses (via the included adapter when buying the Body-Only option). Certainly very well built and quite solidly constructed. Just like a DSLR in many respects, including image quality. Faster than my PowerShot G1X in many ways.

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abi170845
By abi170845 (11 months ago)

I'll skip this camera, my friend bought it, sold it the next day at clubsnap singapore buy and sell section. The autofocus just awful, I'd rather buy another cheap rebel body. also the battery is horrible, and can't find extra batteries. for all the troubles, I'll skip the M.

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CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (11 months ago)

I imagine the feel of this new M baby to be the same as that of the Walter PPK.

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KitHB
By KitHB (11 months ago)

Do you mean "...it's for ladies, and not very nice ladies at that."

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fuglee
By fuglee (11 months ago)

I just got the production model and it does NOT have the 3-10x telephoto digital zoom in movie mode. It's nowhere in the owner's manual either. This could have been a really useful feature for video shooters and a shame to know that Canon removed features from the preproduction models.

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Hugo808
By Hugo808 (11 months ago)

I just had a go on one of these lovely looking things. Having seen some pics I was hoping for a replacement for my 90% of SLR work, but the autofocus! It's awful, really slow and hunts around all over the place before settling.

I tried the Panny GX1 for comparison and it focuses like lightning. I can only assume Canon has deliberately hamstrung this camera so that people still buy the SLRs. Big shame.

PAMS and an input dial would have been nice too but that would make all of Canon's APS-C cameras obsolete. We really can't have everything it seems.

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LaFonte
By LaFonte (11 months ago)

Canon usually needs some time to fine tune anything. The slow focus is very sad, even the fuji improved things on their x mount to fully usable speed now. Hopefully they will improve firmware, but releasing slow focus after all the users critique of older 43m and last year fujis...well this should tell that people do have very little patience with slow focusing now.

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stuntmonkey
By stuntmonkey (Oct 3, 2012)

APS-C with on-board phased detection AF in a compact body would be an excellent proposition, but the two things that hold this back are that the they kept compatibility with the EF mount (large flange diameter) and the control layout. When you look at it, nobody in the mirrorless is putting it all together.

My vote:
- EOS-M sensor
- Fuji X-1 body
- Sony NEX manual control layout

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SFfPhoto
By SFfPhoto (Oct 3, 2012)

I'm keeping my Lumix GX1 - it is part of my Canon system. GX1 features would seem to outweigh most of Canon's consumer offerings. I love the leveling indicator on screen and the built in bounce flash.

I use with the 10-22mm EF-S for a 20mm shift lens via the Fotodiox EOS-4/3 shift adapter. Of course if you don't need shift there are standard adapters.

I pre-set the f-stop at 9 which seems the sweet spot for this lens. Set focus to infinity. If I do need to focus a push on the thumb-wheel brings up the magnified view.

ref: http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii159/kw08/fs/shift_723.jpg

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hiplnsdrftr
By hiplnsdrftr (Oct 1, 2012)

This is essentially the camera I've been lusting after for years... only Canon left out a flash, which renders it useless for my needs.

The great thing about this camera is its size, adding the external flash destroys that attribute. Including a flash would have made it only slightly larger I would guess, but much more versatile.

I'm impressed with the size and design of this camera, unfortunately the lack of flash forces me to stick with my GF1 or buy something else, maybe the Fujifilm XE1.

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shuutrr
By shuutrr (Sep 30, 2012)

The Samsung NX 20 has everything this should have.....a little disappointing, Canon....

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Baxter Bad
By Baxter Bad (Sep 27, 2012)

The physical controls of a compact, but no built-in flash? A live RGB histogram but no Kelvin white balance? OK, so Canon wanted to combine the simplicity of an Elph with some of the advanced features of an EOS. I don't think they got the formula quite right.

Sony tried the ultra-stripped down approach with the first NEX models and now they're adding the built-in flashes, mode dials, etc., that buyers of this type of camera seem to expect. Strange that Canon would make the same mistake given they've sat back so long and watched the market mature.

For the next version, I hope they think more along the lines of the Panasonic GX1 - pop-up flash, front or top control wheel (instead of the rear dial) so I can do exposure comp one-handed, bit more of a grip. Add GPS and Wi-Fi. Send a clear message that this is an $800 camera, not an Elph with interchangeable lenses.

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Banhmi
By Banhmi (Sep 25, 2012)

Why didn't they include built-in GPS??? That feature is now standard on $250 travelzooms. You pay $800 for the EOS-M and you still have to pay another $250+ for a bulky GPS add-on that occupies your hotshoe? Infuriating. Canon really knows to build ill will with the customer base. The Japanese camera oligopoly is ripe for disruption.

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Roberto Mettifogo
By Roberto Mettifogo (Sep 26, 2012)

to sell you the external gps units...

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abi170845
By abi170845 (Sep 12, 2012)

There's no bulb setting? I'm a landscapist and bulb hardcore, 100% of the time I bulb my exposures for 10 minutes starting at twilight( if twilight starts at 5:27 a.m, I usually bulb for 10 plus minutes at around 5:20 a.m)

And how about the availability of extra batteries and remote control or cable release?

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fred 76
By fred 76 (Sep 13, 2012)

It seems that in Bulb mode, you can only select 400 ISO. However it should be possible to remote control the M from the EOS Utilities' Remote Capture tool.

For the batteries, it usually takes a few month (weeks) before a chinese maker supplies a compatible battery.

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abi170845
By abi170845 (Sep 14, 2012)

Thanks for the reply, I guess I'll have to wait until next year for extra batteries, cable release, wait and wait again for a compact body.

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fred 76
By fred 76 (Sep 25, 2012)

It should be worth treating such long exposures as the astronomy photographers do, by substracting a "dark" and dividing by a "flat" master images. The noise will drop down dramatically and the vigneting/dust traces will disappear.

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OneGuy
By OneGuy (Sep 10, 2012)

Seems like dpr got the competitor just right: Pana GF3 and GF5. Let's see the pics, JPEGs in particular.

If Canon gets some following out of this P&S with macho barrel no flash, the next target would be Pana G5 (and EVF). Only when Canon gets really good can they go after the "retro" of Oly.

For its part, m4/3 needs to strike deeper into DSLR territory and I think superior focusing and f1.4 fast lens are the components. Easier (faster) white balance setting is also needed ("Pros" use a flash and don't care but I bet the guys having fun with photography do).

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rpicinic
By rpicinic (Sep 9, 2012)

I read below in a comment that there is no additional crop factor when using EF-M/EF adapter, but will it effect on min focusing distance, like the extension tube?

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Luau BoB
By Luau BoB (Sep 7, 2012)

All they need now is an FD adapter with an FD AE mode!!! That would be so heavenly retro!

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fred 76
By fred 76 (Sep 7, 2012)

The µ4/3 sensors are 17.3 mm × 13.0 mm in size compared to the 22.2 mm x 14.5 mm APS-C. This is about 40% less in surface. That's a lot !

For the same number of MPixels, an APS-C will have bigger photosites hence a better sensitivity and less noise.

That's a technological fact.

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Preternatural Stuff
By Preternatural Stuff (Sep 4, 2012)

@hoggdoc - "All for a few bucks more"? - Typical BS about the M4/3 value proposition (or lack thereof). I used to want M4/3 to succeed but no more.

Products with smaller sensors and less glass @ equivalent focal length costs more? What kind of fool do the M4/3 makers take consumers for?

M4/3 will never beat a larger sensor for image quality. Look at the comments by your kind of M4/3 users filled with stuff like "nearly as good", "almost as good" qualifiers.

M4/3 will never beat the 35mm or APS-C system for sensor image quality (bokeh, depth of field, noise). Ditto for range of lenses - something any photographer worth his salt knows is what ultimately matters. Please - no nonsense about using the best M4/3 prime lenses to compare IQ with 35mm/APS-C bodies with kit lenses. The best 35mm prime lenses on a 35mm/APS-C body, will blow your measly minds.

M4/3 should be cheaper but instead costs more on an IQ-per-dollar basis. Understand why I refuse to get M4/3 yet?

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OneGuy
By OneGuy (Sep 10, 2012)

No.

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kvanderaa
By kvanderaa (9 months ago)

Totally agree 100%

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hoggdoc
By hoggdoc (Aug 29, 2012)

@ALL for a few bucks more you can have a µ4/3's camera that will kick this camera's butt. Not to mention the ever expanding selection of µ4/3's lens from various sources.

Why Canon and Nikon both always plays this ours idea is better than your game all the time causes me to wonder about their market research.

For the record I am a long time Nikon shooter, but have fallen in love with the picture quality and dreamy film like look produced by my Olympus OM-D M-E5. Which BTW is a nearly PRO level quality of build, unlike this chunk of plastic Canon is trying to sell for $800.00.

The Oly can easily compete with pro-level APS-C Sensor Canons and Nikons. For that matter you would be hard pressed when comparing images from A Nikon D3 FF body with top quality glass and the OM-D M-E5.

If Nikon's success with the Series 1 cameras is any indicator, Canon's offering will meet the same lack luster response from the buying public.

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SiliconVoid
By SiliconVoid (Sep 2, 2012)

The Canon 18mp APS sensor is one of those sensors you mention the OM-D trying to compete with, it is the very reason Canon keeps refining and reusing it instead of upgrading to something else at this time. Not sure what you think Oly is capable of that this (yet to be released) camera cannot do in image quality. However if it is ultimate image quality you are after in this form, the X-Pro1 takes all in this category to school.

Lenses?? Olympus does not have even a fraction of the lenses available from Cannon given that you can use every EF lens Canon makes - and with FULL functionality. Not to mention all the same third party lenses adaptable to any of the other mirrorless cameras.

Strange you mention build quality, and without even reading this hands-on review. This 'first entry' by Canon has a full magnesium body.. Kudos to Oly for the VF though, it still needs to be optical. Maybe you can make a better comparison when Canon releases their (~15th?) mirrorless camera like Olympus..

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MarshallG
By MarshallG (Aug 27, 2012)

I don't know if mirrorless will replace the SLR someday, but this camera isn't the one to do it. This product is much too stripped down for any serious amateur photographer. It looks like Canon must also believe that mirrorless is not (yet?) the solution for serious photographers.

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fred 76
By fred 76 (Aug 27, 2012)

There is definitely NO REASON to buy that kind of camera because it is FAR TOO MUCH EXPENSIVE.

A G1X will do the job for less, with only advantages :
- integrated flash
- orientable screen
- small size
- ability to store RAW pictures
- big CMOS sensor (almost same size than a EOS sensor)
- only 560 EUR !!!

The only advantage of the M compared to the G1X is the ability to change lenses and to use the EOS Utilities softwares. Is it worth the huge price increase ?

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Jim2386
By Jim2386 (Sep 14, 2012)

As an underwater photographer, I liked the G1x, however, the G1X does not have eTTL for my strobes, this camera does. The G1X only allows you to select flash power from the camera screen and does not actually "control" the flash power during the shot. That was the deal breaker for me.

This camera is exactly what I need for underwater photography...full manual, eTTL, much higher res than my last UW camera, and small body so the housing and related equipment is small and easy to transport on a plane with all my other gear. That's what frustrates me a bit here. It may not be the camera you need for your type of photography, and that's completely understandable. However, it may be the camera someone has been waiting for for the photography they do. For example, using a view finder underwater is almost impossible so the screen is almost always used. To write off a camera as "bad"with no explanation lends little to the conversation. SLR's are awesome, but sometimes other cameras fit better

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Maurice Daniels
By Maurice Daniels (11 months ago)

How do you use a touchscreen underwater?

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Pubert Adams
By Pubert Adams (Aug 27, 2012)

Is there a inner magnesium frame? Nothing I have read so far talks about it.

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Paullubbock
By Paullubbock (Aug 23, 2012)

I'll trade you one of them for my well taken care of 40D?.

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