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Canon EOS 100D/Rebel SL1 Hands-on Preview

March 2013 | By Amadou Diallo


Preview based on a pre-production Canon EOS 100D / Rebel SL1

Last year Canon made its long-anticipated entry into the mirrorless camera market with the EOS M, taking aim at compact-camera upgraders who desire better image quality but don't want the bulk or intimidating controls of a DSLR. Yet the company has long hinted that another path to competing with mirrorless entries from Nikon, Sony, Olympus and Panasonic lay in the miniaturization of its familiar SLR design. With the announcement of the EOS 100D / Rebel SL1, Canon has laid its cards on the table. Billed as 'the world's smallest, lightest APS-C DSLR', the EOS 100D unabashedly merges the Rebel-series' DSLR operational hallmarks with an impressively small body.

Thanks to a downsizing of internal components that has resulted in a smaller shutter mechanism, thinner sensor module and smaller-footprint circuit board, the EOS 100D is significantly smaller and lighter than the co-announced EOS 700D, while offering the same 18MP pixel count, DIGIC 5 processor and, presumably image quality. The EOS 100D is, in fact, comfortably the smallest DSLR we've yet seen, and not so far off 'SLR-style' mirrorless models such as the Panasonic Lumix DMC-G5.

As attention-grabbing as the EOS 100D's small footprint undoubtedly is, what's equally impressive is that Canon has been able to retain most of the controls and features typically found on a Rebel-series camera. A front dial and dedicated ISO, exposure compensation and AF/AE lock buttons are among the controls that will be familiar to any Canon DSLR user. Its touchscreen is identical in resolution to that on the EOS 650D and 700D, but is fixed, rather than articulated.

The EOS 100D introduces version two of Canon's Hybrid CMOS AF system, originally seen in the EOS 650D. While Canon is making no claims about focus speed improvements of its hybrid phase/contrast detect system, the new version covers a significantly greater portion of the live view area (80% of the area). This should make it a significantly more useful option than the version found on the EOS M and 650D.

Canon EOS 100D / Rebel SL1 key specifications

  • Small form factor DSLR weighing 400g/14oz.
  • 18MP APS-C sensor with 14-bit DIGIC 5 processor
  • 'Hybrid CMOS AF II' system with 80% frame coverage
  • Continuous autofocus in movie mode with subject tracking
  • ISO 100-12800 (expandable to ISO 25600)
  • 4 fps continuous shooting
  • 1080p30 video recording, monaural microphone (stereo input jack)
  • 3-inch fixed capacitive touch-screen (same as EOS M)
  • 9 point AF (central sensor is cross-type)
  • 'Creative Filters' image-processing controls, previewed live on-screen

Compared to the Canon EOS Rebel 700D / T5i

This front view shows that the EOS 100D / Rebel SL1 is substantially smaller than the co-announced EOS 700D / Rebel T5i - itself not exactly a giant.
However, the 100D retains the majority of the external controls found on the larger camera. Although both cameras feature the same rear touchscreen, the 100D's screen is fixed, not articulated.
The top-plate controls are essentially the same too, but the 100D only has space for a mono microphone on the top left shoulder. The offset shutter button may look odd, but works well.

The EOS 100D achieves its notable size reduction without sacrificing much in the way of external control compared to the EOS 650D. On the 100D the button at the center of the 4-way controller does double-duty as both the Q menu and Set button, and the surrounding buttons have lost their dedicated functions. The 100D has a lower capacity flash, with a guide number of 9m (versus 13mm on the 650D) and houses a mono versus stereo microphone, though it does retain a stereo mic input. And while the handgrip is not as deep as the one on its larger sibling, the 100D still provides a distinctly DSLR handling experience.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM lens

Introduced alongside the EOS 100D is the EF-S 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 IS STM lens. This is the standard kit zoom for the 100D and brings the total number of EF-S STM lenses to three, with a 40mm pancake and 18-135mm (both shown below) also on offer. Canon's STM lenses are designed to take full advantage of the Hybrid AF system found in the EOS 650D, 700D and 100D. They offer quiet autofocus, helpful when shooting video, and full time manual focus. The 18-55mm lens has a close focusing distance of 0.25m and a circular seven-bladed aperture. An internal focusing motor means the lens does not extend while turning the focus ring.

The EOS 100D's Hybrid AF II system is designed to work optimally with Canon's three-lens STM lineup which consists of an 18-55mm, 18-135mm and fixed 40mm pancake lens.
Compared to the previous EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS II lens, the STM version is slightly longer to accommodate the internal focus system, and has a 'proper' manual focus ring at the front of the barrel that drive the focus group electronically. As with the older design it's physically shortest in the middle of its zoom range, and extends on zooming either to 18mm or 55mm (click here for a comparison at 55mm).

The STM focus motor is extremely quiet and, when using the optical viewfinder, impressively fast, offering a noticeable improvement over its predecessor. But switch the camera to live view and, just like the 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM, it slows down significantly. This is a unfortunate - Canon's live view AF system still distinctly lags behind the competition.

The filter thread on the STM lens remains 58mm. The inner-focus design means it doesn't rotate on autofocus, and allows the use of an optional petal-type lens hood rather (than the relatively ineffective bowl-type hood of its predecessor). As we'd expect at this level, the lens mount is plastic. This is an EF-S, lens so only fits on Canon's APS-C cameras.

Hands-on preview video


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veroman
By veroman (3 months ago)

In the top view, it bears a striking resemblance to the Pentax K-01 "brick", whose design did not at all garner favorable reviews.

So here's Canon's version of the "brick," but more than likely its very-similar design will not be panned to the extreme that the Pentax K-01 was.

Go figure.

1 upvote
StephenSPhotog
By StephenSPhotog (3 months ago)

The Brick was panned because it was 3 times the size it needed to be because it didn't have a mirror. This is a full featured DSLR not a interchangeable lens camera.

Your comparison is invalid.

1 upvote
Juraj Lacko
By Juraj Lacko (3 months ago)

Ok this could be a perfect camera if:
-FF senosor with NO AA filter built in could be same sensor from 6d
-same size (I wouldn't mind to have small mirror with small coverage as long it is optical)
-same price as 100d
-3 reasonably spread appart AF cross type sensors down to -3ev
-that carbon fiber could be used all around the body.
They could really cut corners on where they did. Not really so much need for touch screen nor flash or video. I am ready for your criticism :)

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The Lotus Eater
By The Lotus Eater (3 months ago)

"-FF senosor with NO AA"
"-same price as 100d"

LOL, good one!

3 upvotes
Juraj Lacko
By Juraj Lacko (3 months ago)

Don't say that it wouldn't sell well. even if price would be £1k

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Steve D Yue
By Steve D Yue (3 months ago)

now it's smaller than a PowerShot 'superzoom' SX50 HS!!! [w/o lens]
and very close to PowerShot G1X [w/o lens]

i had predicted this mini-EOS dSLR would be close to the PowerShot SX50HS

but one now can have faster lenses [EF or EF-S] and wider apertures and an APS-C sensor (hopefully as good as the PowerShot G1X sensor, if not better; i suspect 'same' as G1X; if so, better than either 650D/600D/EOS M and 7D)

and hopefully better AF than the PowerShot G1x or EOS M...

has a bigger sized grip like the PowerShot SX50 HS for smaller hands

a 'mini-7D' (not mini-60D; because it lacks VASS (vari-angle swivel screen from PowerShot G series))

sdyue

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digifan
By digifan (3 months ago)

Well it lacks more than vari angle. It's just a crippled entry level DSLR. Not even remote flash capable. Very annoying Accu and SD card in the bottom.

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Jake
By Jake (3 months ago)

Smaller... big deal, you still use the same giant lens as the largest SLR. Who really cares if the body is a little smaller and lighter?

4 upvotes
Josh152
By Josh152 (3 months ago)

@Jake

Exactly.

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Photo-Wiz
By Photo-Wiz (3 months ago)

Actually, the fact that it is small is something I like a lot. Coupled with a small light lens, it really looks like a great travel camera.

2 upvotes
samsamsamsam
By samsamsamsam (3 months ago)

For me as a travel Photograph, this is the Camera I dreamt of, only lighter and a sensor like the NEX7 could make it better. And I would need a light 35mm fix lens, with IS, for APS-C. Because 340g for the 35mm/f2 is to match, when a normal 50mm weight 150g.
And the pancake looks to cheap, for me, because then It is better to use a RX100.

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samsamsamsam
By samsamsamsam (3 months ago)

Also I never understand how samebody can like to make Photos with a EVF. I like to use the display, like Mediumformat camera view frame or the Pentaprisma.

2 upvotes
Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (3 months ago)

@samsamsamsam Maybe you've been spoilt by high quality FF pentaprism viewfinders, but APS pentamirror viewfinders aren't actually that great.

2 upvotes
samsamsamsam
By samsamsamsam (3 months ago)

You are right, but they are useable. Maybe the best solution for me, is a great Display like on the new Smartphones, with a Cover with can be used as light shield. And no Viewfinder. But a Mount for all Canon lenses with a light adapter.
Something like a Rollei Babyflex.
http://www.hometrail.de/2011/03/nachwuchs-camera-porn/

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samsamsamsam
By samsamsamsam (3 months ago)

I think a digital Rollei Babyflex, would be the Future, when they could make it, that it is useable as a action camera also. And I think that could possible, because my old Rollei can do both.

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sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (3 months ago)

samsamsamsam, just a point but a lot of people prefer an EVF to a pentaprism. EVFs which provide 100% coverage and WYSIWYG are IMO superior to an optical VF in composition and relationship to the final pictures.

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samsamsamsam
By samsamsamsam (3 months ago)

@sgoldswo
I look at your gallery, and Ok when you like it. But I think you should go in a good old museum and learn more about pictures.
I also needed years to understand. But understanding is not doing it. I can do it, only sometimes.

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sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (3 months ago)

samsamsamsam, LOL I'm fine, by the way, shooting with a Leica M9 and Contax G2 (amongst others) I would be happy to give you some tips and lessons if you need them?

I had to wonder what you meant for a second and then I realised you meant the gallery shots I used for posting in pieces for discussions about gear before the DPR forums were updated. Try looking at my website or Flickr feed... But you won't because all you are interested in is ad hominem statements about people who disagree with you.

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samsamsamsam
By samsamsamsam (3 months ago)

I have a Bronica GS1 and Cambo Large-format Camera.
I think, you like what you doing, so it is ok. But I don't like EVF.
And I must say Canon was always very slow, because they will sell new cameras the next 100 years, or so.

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sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (3 months ago)

samsamsamsam, nice one, make sure you post a few shots in your gallery from your Rambo ;-)

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technic
By technic (3 months ago)

good product differentiation IMHO, and unlike what Canon has been doing lately (me-too) they are first with this.

But very disappointing that they didn't use this same thinking for the 6D ... after all, on FF there is much more to save in size/weight while still keeping good ergonomics for the average user. And the 6D really needs a swivel screen for those special macro/nature/travel perspectives...

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (3 months ago)

Well . . . maybe the 1st to go this small, and to make it such a big announcement . . . but there have been other small dSLRs around. Pentax has been known as making its entry level dSLRs smaller than the competition. I've got a Pentax K100D (and ist DS) and I really like their small size. And small size is why I like my Nikon D5100 more than my Nikon D90.

Not to take away from what Canon has done here. I think its great! And I envy that nice pancake lens. That's really the icing on the cake for such a small camera! <grin>

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technic
By technic (3 months ago)

in the seventies small SLRs got popular, I used Olympus OM2 for many years. Maybe we can get a revival of that trend ;-)

The 40mm pancake is nice and good quality, but it's a very boring focal length. They need a good quality 15-24mm (nominal focal length) pancake for this camera - but maybe that isn't possible with a DSLR design ...

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (3 months ago)

Yeah. On the Pentax side there was the Pentax M series. I've got my dad's old Pentax ME Super sitting in my basement. I hold that up against my Pentax K100D (which is a small dSLR) and the ME Super makes my K100D look big! <grin>

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CMurdock
By CMurdock (3 months ago)

In the early days of digital photography, Canon had the best image quality, but that has changed. Their recent cameras produce images that are too soft and over-processed. I'm sure this camera will be no different.

For good image quality, Sigma and Nikon are now the leaders.

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (3 months ago)

What about Pentax? If you go to www.dxomark.com, Pentax has some high scores with their Pentax K-5 / K-5 II / K-5 IIs? (I can't remember the name) cameras.

:)

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Debankur Mukherjee
By Debankur Mukherjee (3 months ago)

Smaller body design........well done Canon......

2 upvotes
M Jesper
By M Jesper (3 months ago)

They make the camera smaller but the 18-55 longer, hmm.

5 upvotes
davidonformosa
By davidonformosa (3 months ago)

Maybe they needed a smaller body to compensate for the bigger lens ;)

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (3 months ago)

Yeah. But the icing on the cake is that nice small pancake lens. And the fact that it is still a dSLR so you can be small (with the pancake lens) when you want to be, but flexible to add the juice with more powerful lenses when you want. Nice. :)

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CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (3 months ago)

This may be the answer to a Canon users camera for Street Photography.

Small, agile, discreet and... a DSLR.

With a 40mm f2.8, it is a stealthy tool.

.

4 upvotes
sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (3 months ago)

It's definitely a tool..

1 upvote
iL337P337
By iL337P337 (3 months ago)

So Canon's answer to their rather unimpressive EOS M... is to add a mirror to it.

13 upvotes
agentul
By agentul (3 months ago)

the camera seems nice, but one of the things that i like in my friends' DSLRs is the much longer battery life. A rating of 380 CIPA shots is comparable to what my GH2 can achieve (i think it's 320 or something). And it's a camera with EVF, so you have no way of taking pictures without using some amount of energy. A DSLR, with its OVF, is much more energy efficient. So 380 CIPA shots means that Canon used a really small battery. It's probably understandable given the size of the camera, but it kills one of the main advantages it could have had over mirrorless cameras.

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sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (3 months ago)

Yeah, seems a bit weak when the GH3 manages 540 shots per charge.

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kelpdiver
By kelpdiver (3 months ago)

CIPA has 800 for the 7d, but I've taken 1000 and still see 50% battery remaining. If you don't use the LCD very much, the actual result can be much higher. But if you don't have a choice but to use it, obviously it's a bit harder. What do people get in actual use on the GH3 (which costs $500 more than this model)?

It's of course very simple to swap the battery, unless you're dealing with a tripod mount or a housing for underwater use. But you want small...you have to give up CF and big batteries.

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sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (3 months ago)

Probably more like 800-1000 to a battery from the GH3 if you are shooting stills, if you only use the LCD screen much and rely on the EVF it doesn't really drain the battery.

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sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (3 months ago)

Wow. A canon version of the Pentax k-01 in a Panasonic g1 body. Which is smaller because it lacks physical controls... However could the mighty canon have come up with this desperate attemp... I mean world beating design.

And full size aps lenses too? Great, I've always wanted a tiny body with a massive lens, you know what I mean....

My mirrorless is going to eBay now!!!

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (3 months ago)

Unlike the K-01 it actually has PDAF (both separate and on-sensor) which makes a lot more sense for a DSLR mount.

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sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (3 months ago)

@ Andy Crowe, but it still focuses slower than the E-M5 and GH3, neither of which require focus adjustment of lenses...

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MisterBG
By MisterBG (3 months ago)

Once again a Canon which is known by different names in different markets.
When are Canon going to adopt a common naming policy for their products?
A 1 DX and an EOS 5D and EOS 7D are the same in every market, so why can't they do it with the budget end of the range?

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T3
By T3 (3 months ago)

Canon has been doing this since their very first "Rebel" SLRs (which have different names in different regions). It certainly has not hurt the sale of these cameras. In fact, this line of cameras has been the best selling line of cameras in photo history. If it works, why change it?

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njb311
By njb311 (3 months ago)

@T3 they are only best selling because they are the cheaper, mass-market lines so no surprise that they outsell the 1/5/7 ranges.

I think the point of the "Rebel" nomenclature is because that is more appealing/memorable to mass-market than "1000D" and it's unlikely they will drop it. That said, other manufacturers do fine.

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Gaëtan Lehmann
By Gaëtan Lehmann (3 months ago)

Is it really smaller than the Olympus E-420?
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/olympuse420/2

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (3 months ago)

It doesn't have to be because they're calling it the smallest APS DSLR, which excludes 4/3rds cameras.

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (3 months ago)

The advantage is . . . if you have Canon lenses, and have been looking at a m4/3 or other MILC because you want to have a small fun kit, this can be an option to travel light, but not have to re-invest in all new lenses. And stay with Canon. :)

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Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (3 months ago)

Any reason Canon couldn't come out with a collapsible zoom for this, like Sony, Panasonic have for their mirrorless cameras?

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Hobbit13
By Hobbit13 (3 months ago)

They can, but the lens will always be bigger, because the distance between the lens and sensor has to be larger. They cannot change that, without changing the mount.

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Ingloryon
By Ingloryon (3 months ago)

I know a few guys who would like to have one of these nice little things in their bags as B-camera.

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Rockchan
By Rockchan (3 months ago)

How about lenses? If I need to put DSLR lenses on it, I don't really care about how small the body is. A "compact" camera needs to also have "compact" lenses. The lens lineup on EOS M (excluding DSLR lenses) is really poor when compare to Oly/Pan/Sony.

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iudex
By iudex (3 months ago)

Imagine you have a 5D or other fullframe and want a back-up camera. In comparison to FF the 100D is really a dwarf and I wonder wherher you gain more (meaning less bulk) whan choosing EOS M (where you have to have specific lenses).

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Leichhardt
By Leichhardt (3 months ago)

Some of Canons slower primes like the 40mm f2.8, 35mm f2, 28mm f2.8, 50mm f1.8 , 85mm f1.8 and kit zooms are quite small lenses and should balance well with this body, given it wont be as compact as a the mirrorless cameras available but the form factor brings it down to the size and weight of some of the old 35mm film cameras of the past, now if they could make a compact 17mm f2.8 that would be great.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

This doesn't seem smaller enough to matter in terms of total size with lens mounted or in terms of total kit size.

It's small the the 40mm on, but that's not exactly an everyday lens at 64mm equivalent.

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T3
By T3 (3 months ago)

I think it's a camera that will be a lot smaller in real life than it looks in pictures. Body depth is never going to change that much, but the difference in body height, width, and weight are definitely going to be noticeable. I think this is just going to be a camera that you have to get into your hands in order to appreciate.

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (3 months ago)

In real world practicality <grin> to me it makes a big difference. I've got a Nikon D5100 and Nikon D90. My Nikon D5100, because its shorter, I can toss on my 18-135mm lens and toss it in a really small bag that tucks nicely under my arm. When walking around on vacation I really forget its there. I can play with my girls and just forget about the camera. But its there if I want it. I toss that same lens on my Nikon D90 and its hard to "tuck" that camera away. That's why I'm taking my Nikon D5100 to WDW this summer, not my Nikon D90. But Canon's 40mm f2.8 pancake lens is a lot smaller than the Nikon 35mm f1.8 lens that I have as an option. :)

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

Maybe. I do recall looking at the E510 and E410 in store once and while not that different on paper, the difference was significant. Perhaps you are right that I need to hold it to appreciate.

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T3
By T3 (3 months ago)

Nice job. Seems very nicely designed. I even like that new textured pattern on the grip and around the shutter button. Gives it a more modern look than the old bumpy faux leather rubber texture pattern. Plus, it was smart that they designed the grip so that it doesn't extend beyond the front of the lens mount. As a result, the camera is as compact as possible when the lens is removed. Could have been even more compact if they had shortened the pop-up flash overhang. Maybe next time they'll make a pop-up flash that can extend/retract in length, thus making for a shorter flash overhang while still allowing it to achieve a good extension height.

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keeponkeepingon
By keeponkeepingon (3 months ago)

In your hands on I'd love to see how this compares to one of the ollder/smaller rebels.

Is this truley something new or just cannon getting back to iwhere it was a few years ago?

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Cobber55
By Cobber55 (3 months ago)

Good job Canon. Now I hope Nikon follow with a similar offering.

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MisterBG
By MisterBG (3 months ago)

And in return, I hope Canon come up with a competitor to the D7100.

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Leichhardt
By Leichhardt (3 months ago)

Having owned small 35mm film cameras such a the Olympus Om-4 in the past, I've always disliked the larger size of most DSLRs, they just aren't particularly practical for carry around or for street photography. Currently I've been lugging around a Canon 5d mk2 for street photography and I've seriously been considering getting a smaller mirror-less camera for this purpose, but that means having to buy into a totally new system. I dont like the EOS M, but this camera, with my current primes and their 40mm pancake, looks like it could be a viable and economical option.

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epoon2
By epoon2 (3 months ago)

where is the Wifi connectivity?

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T3
By T3 (3 months ago)

It'll probably show up in the 2nd gen SL2 in 12-18 months. Canon never fires off all their bullets at once.

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Rod McD
By Rod McD (3 months ago)

Interesting little camera - especially in its relationship to mirror-less. I have a larger and heavier DSLR I'm not about to sell, but I also use a G1X as a travel and hiking camera. I find myself wondering if I'd have made the same decision if this camera had been available...... It's the smallest DSLR but still much larger with lens compared to a G1X with lens retracted. It weighs about the same - with lens - which is remarkable. I'd be fairly confident that it's VF and AF would be better. We'll have to wait to see what the IQ is like.

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nonicks
By nonicks (3 months ago)

In my humble opinion... this is a disappointed answer to the mirrorless segment if this what canon is trying to achieve.

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Benarm
By Benarm (3 months ago)

Canon's second failed attempt at taking a jab at mirrorless market. The longer they avoid producing something competitive to NEX/Oly/Panny, the more Canon will lag behind. And why would they put a 2009 sensor on it? Fail.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

I love when people say Canon is lagging behind. Should we compare Sony and Olympus profits to Canon?

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T3
By T3 (3 months ago)

This is not a "second failed attempt" at the mirrorless market because this isn't a mirrorless camera at all. Clearly, this is a camera catering to the still-popular mirrored/OVF camera market. And, of course, they will continue to develop their next mirrorless offerings. Ultimately, I wouldn't really call this camera a "failed attempt" because they'll sell boatloads. Wouldn't be surprised if it even outsold most of the mirrorless cameras out there. Besides, I think there's enough room in the camera market for all these various types of cameras.

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lightsculpture
By lightsculpture (3 months ago)

Benarm, just because it has the same pixel count does not mean it is the same sensor as 2009 :-) Besides, I do not recall any of Canon's sensor from 2009 having PDAF pixels.

Ironically Canon's mirrorrless strategy hinges on that sensor. With AF points covering 80% of the sensor and if it performed up to scratch then Canon's next mirrorless would not be that far behind Sony and Oly anymore, would it?

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sgoldswo
By sgoldswo (3 months ago)

T3 it is a second attempt to stem the flow of customers to mirrorless. It's a failure as a concept because putting big lenses on a smaller camera is just uncomfortable (and looks weird). I wouldn't be surprised if we see another announcement in 12 months from Canon senior management saying "we aren't sure why, but we didn't sell many of these cameras"... I can only see existing canon customers buying this camera.

tkbslc, people say canon is lagging behind because its the biggest and best horseshoe manufacturer in the business, but recently someone invented the motorcar, to use a metaphor.

If canon doesn't compete with mirrorless it will be hurt financially as the APS-C DSLR market shrinks. To go back to my metaphor, they think they can compete with motorcars by refining horseshoes...

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acidic
By acidic (3 months ago)

It's even lighter than the OM-D! If they could only make some small pancake primes in EF-S mount to go with this...

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GKN
By GKN (3 months ago)

Totally agree .... I'm very surprised it didn't come as a kit with the 40mm or a new pancake e.g. 22mm like they did with the EOS-M

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samsamsamsam
By samsamsamsam (3 months ago)

I also totally agree with you, I need a good and light Quality 35mm IS lens.

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Dan4321
By Dan4321 (3 months ago)

Likely they will sell far more of these than any kind of EOS-M camera.

1 upvote
sbc
By sbc (3 months ago)

A great travel/backup camera when you already have more than a few Canon lenses. No need to reinvest in lenses in other mounts.

11 upvotes
thx1138
By thx1138 (3 months ago)

Actually this product makes some sense as compared to the totally unnecessary T5i, but I wonder if it means Canon's heart is not really in mirrorless. An EOS-M2 + several more lenses would have than either of these cameras.

1 upvote
tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

Maybe in terms of exciting camera nerds like those of us on the forum, but would it have meant much in terms of sales?

0 upvotes
atakomba
By atakomba (3 months ago)

Come on Canon, what a bad joke is this miniaturised dslr. Who on earth will buy this, people who are looking for small camera + lens combination will run away from this to m43, nikon1 etc. Shame, this was the last desperate shot from Canon, a missed one

6 upvotes
Juck
By Juck (3 months ago)

That's comical. Canon did $45 Bllion in sales in 2011,,, this is no parting shot,, they're not going anywhere. Deal with it. Run away to m43,,,lol, classic.

8 upvotes
The Silver Fox
By The Silver Fox (3 months ago)

Why will those interested in a small ILC run away from this? I very much like m4/3, but there are times when an APS-C sensor will do better, all other things about the camera being equal. I can certainly see this new Canon encroaching on m4/3 sales.

The real question for me is whether this product can compete with mirrorless models that also are APS-C, not m4/3. Can this camera go toe-to-toe with Fuji's XE-1 or Sony's NEX series?

I might not go with Canon's offering, but it's great to have so many choices.

1 upvote
mma173
By mma173 (3 months ago)

"They" know that m4/3s makes more sense but don't won't to support the competitors.

1 upvote
Leichhardt
By Leichhardt (3 months ago)

I would buy it, I'm already heavily invested in the system, but I would like a small camera for street photography and just to carry around everyday without having to worry about my full frame getting lost, stolen or damaged.

2 upvotes
njb311
By njb311 (3 months ago)

@Leichhardt I know where you're coming from in terms of being invested in a system. The problem with this being a small camera for street photography is that if you are heavily invested in the system then you are probably touting some good glass. And *that* is where a small body becomes questionable. I loved my 5Dii, but the weight of Zeiss and L lenses made it impractical to me as someone who takes a camera everywhere. This body wouldn't have made the difference for me to keep the system, I already had a 20D second body which was great, but last year the whole lot went in favour of a smaller APS-C mirrorless system and I have to say I'm loving that more.

But... choices are always a good thing to have, and we're all making different ones. I'm actually wondering how attractive this body would be to someone totally new to photography? It's easy to know how we react to it if we've had cameras for 30+ years, but what about today's new consumer?

1 upvote
Leichhardt
By Leichhardt (3 months ago)

@njb311, I have a range of lenses for different jobs, even some of the cheaper, small prime lenses that I specifically use for street photography. For me wide open performance is not really an issue on the street, focus and a decent depth of field is. I normally shoot street hyper-focally at f8 or above, at these apertures there are many inexpensive, non L glass primes that can do a fantastic job, like the 20mm f2.8 or 28mm f2.8 for example. I'm not saying this is the best system or that this set up is better than mirrorless for the job, but I think It's an economical alternative that I can make it work.

0 upvotes
TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (3 months ago)

Actually . . . what this has over the MILC crowd is an upgrade path to Full Frame with already existing equipement and lenses out there. But this camera to start out. Buy some lenses. Buy a flash unit. Upgrade to a Canon 7D down the road. Get some full frame lenses then. Eventually work your way into a Canon 6D or whatever is out there at the time. Pretty nice upgrade path potential.

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0 upvotes
optongo525
By optongo525 (3 months ago)

I am sure some people will like this, but Cannon missed the point: with digital sensor technology, the extra reflection optics will be obsolete like the film. How small can you make those mirrors? Certainly not smaller than the sensor. Mirrorless is definitely the way to go. Look at Kodak and Fujifilm, be careful Cannon (and Nikon).

1 upvote
kadardr
By kadardr (3 months ago)

Congratulations Canon.

2 upvotes
Juck
By Juck (3 months ago)

I like the look of this to replace my XSi,, I almost pulled the trigger on a T4i,, this will suit me better as a 2nd body when I'm lugging my 1D around my high school football field. 14oz with battery,, I really like that. USB 3 would have been nice though.

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3 upvotes
howardroark
By howardroark (3 months ago)

Canon's answer to ILC? Not going all in on the M as an ILC solution? Works for me.

3 upvotes
tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

I think they are just trying to be disruptive as possible to mirrorless systems while hanging on to high DSLR sales. I don't think they want a top selling mirrorless system because that market is peanuts compared to their compact and DSLR systems.

1 upvote
thelensmeister
By thelensmeister (3 months ago)

Bin the flash and add a FF sensor and they would sell zillions.

5 upvotes
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