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Tamrac launches rugged-looking photo messenger bags

By dpreview staff on Feb 4, 2014 at 06:00 GMT
Tamrac has introduced the Apache Series photo messenger bags. The three new models are made of waterproof sailcloth and designed to look discreet. The smallest of the new bags, the Apache 2 Photo Messenger, can hold a compact DSLR kit or mirrorless system. The Apache 6 Photo Messenger, the largest bag, can hold a DSLR with lens attached and 2-3 extra lenses, along with a tablet or laptop. The Apache 4 and 6 also have a silent closure system. The Apache Series starts at £59.99 for the Apache 2.  

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Press Release:

Apache Photo Messenger Bags 

Combines the rugged look of the old west with modern styling, materials and features

Tamrac's new Apache Series are discreet, comfortable, lightweight photo messenger bags that offer superior organisation and equipment protection. The outer material is tough, durable sailcloth that is lightweight, waterproof and has a soft, supple feel. The designs are comfortable to carry and provide fast access to camera gear and accessories. Tough Hypatex bases provide maximum resistance to abrasion and moisture. The roomy zippered front pockets feature numerous internal organizer pockets to hold hard drives, cables, memory cards, batteries and other personal items.

The series consists of 3 models: 

  • The Apache 2 Photo Messenger holds and protects a compact DSLR camera with 18-55mm lens attached, an extra lens (such as 55-200mm), a small flashgun, accessories and personal items. It is also perfect for mirrorless camera systems.
  • The Apache 4 Photo Messenger holds a DSLR with lens attached (up to 11.5cm long), 1 or 2 extra lenses, a 10” tablet, accessories and personal items.
  • The Apache 6 Photo Messenger protects a DSLR with lens attached (up to 15cm), 2 or 3 extra lenses, flashgun, tablet or 12x 9.5” laptop and accessories.

The Apache 4 and 6 have internal foam-padded pockets to hold a small laptop or tablet, expanding side pockets to hold a water bottle or accessories, a silent closure system that allows the front flap to be quiet, and Tamrac's Piggy-Back Pocket™ which allows them to be slipped over the handle of rolling luggage.

Guide retail prices as follows:

  • Apache 2 - £59.99 
  • Apache 4 - £79.99
  • Apache 6 - £99.99

The Apache series is available immediately.

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Source: Tamrac

Comments

Total comments: 106
larryis1
By larryis1 (1 month ago)

B&H has the model 4 of the bag in tan. Does anyone know where I can get model 4 of the bag in black in the U.S.?

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Wilhelm
By Wilhelm (2 months ago)

Who's selling them? B&H and Amazon doesn't list them.

0 upvotes
SamDF
By SamDF (2 months ago)

They look good! But I wont start advertising what I've just bought, looks pretty much the same for 1/4 of the price...

The only difference appears to be the logo..

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DrZeus
By DrZeus (3 weeks ago)

I would be so interested in a pm regarding that .... Tenba have a similar style and price, but I can't get them where I live, so a cheaper similar version would be great - where did you get yours?

0 upvotes
michael19843
By michael19843 (2 months ago)

The Artisan and Artist Acam 7000 is better. The only bag maker who make stylish bags.

0 upvotes
Dan Wagner
By Dan Wagner (2 months ago)

The video was so goofy it made me not want the product. Those hand model hand gestures are so 1950's -- very funny.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (2 months ago)

I think the ThinkTank bags are pretty close to ideal, while not looking too much like camera bags and being almost advertising-free. But judging by these comments, bag manufacturers would do well to poll a large number of users about potential designs instead of worrying so much about giving away patent info on zippers and pockets.

2 upvotes
RichardBalonglong
By RichardBalonglong (2 months ago)

The compartments are very similar to my Clik Elite Reporter. I bought the Clik Elite Reporter for its very good compartments which also has a space for an iPad (I use it for bulk photo editing and story writing for newspaper), and has good straps...
Now, I'm looking for another bag that still has the same type or compartments for camera, lenses, and iPad but don't want too look like a camera bag. I want something that looks like a messenger bag or an ordinary school bag... This Tamrac is had it almost from what I'm looking for, but still screams "I'm a camera bag!"...

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Alec
By Alec (2 months ago)

This looks nearly identical to Adorama's and National Geographic's photo messenger bags. I hope I'm wrong because as I type this, those other ones are busy at my place storing the type of stuff one throws out when they move apartments.

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Geo Goetz
By Geo Goetz (2 months ago)

I use the XS timbuk2 snoop - very stealthy

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SRT3lkt
By SRT3lkt (2 months ago)

strangely, no one on the video uses camera strap.

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Alec
By Alec (2 months ago)

Camera straps are messy and imperfect. They belong in the crude world of "actual users" not in the world of designers who make perfect dainty sketches of perfect products in perfect moleskine noteooks over perfect lattes.

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plasnu
By plasnu (2 months ago)

Very lightweight!

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plasnu
By plasnu (2 months ago)

I liked Tamrac bag until I moved to stealth bag. This must be a good bag and more stealth than the other Tamrac, although I don't like the logo on the lid and it still looks like a camera bag.

0 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (2 months ago)

If you want to have a real stealthy camera bag, you will have to convert a small sport bag (those that one would carry to the gym.) into one. For padding, one can use a gym exercise mat as material to be sewn into the required compartment. Some preliminary knowledge of using a sewing machine is helpful or get someone who know. Use "umbrella cloth" as the outer material. Sew velcro at the appropriate location to join the various parts or pieces.

The best stealth bag is one that is made by oneself. It will have the exact compartments for your use and definitely do not have a camera bag logo.

When I walk around dubious places where safety is a concern I often use a recycle shopping bag or freezer / ice-cream bag to carry my camera equipment. Line the bottom with some soft material like a face towel and for the top, use a T-shirt or another small towel to conceil whatever that is inside.

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naftade
By naftade (2 months ago)

I like the many small pockets.

Other than that: a copy of the Tenba messenger series in view.

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tommy leong
By tommy leong (2 months ago)

can we have a bag that doesn't require you to reach all
the way down just to clip it?
WHAT is the rational for that.....

3 upvotes
m43er
By m43er (2 months ago)

Yeah...half flap covers work much better.

Reckon the reason is to give it a more seamless look but really that big flap gets in the way.

1 upvote
ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (2 months ago)

DPR, can you make an article about bags for mirrorless cams?

Most camera bags I could find fall into two categories:

- Too large for the smaller package (esp lens pockets are way oversized even for Oly 1.8/45). (A.K.A. DSLR bags.)

- Fit camera+lens well, but have little/no room for extra lenses, not even the pancakes. (A.K.A. P&S/video cam bags.)

4 upvotes
plasnu
By plasnu (2 months ago)

And too heavy. Cameras are lighter and lighter, but the bag is heavier and heavier these days.

0 upvotes
Digitall
By Digitall (2 months ago)

I had this problem when buying a bag for MFT, after such weighting see measures and keep a low profile initially decided by the Think Tank 5, but after pondering again I ended up buying the 7, this leaves a little more room to evolve in the equipment, without being too big or too small, for me is the ideal size for now.

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DavinaG
By DavinaG (2 months ago)

The big issue with targeted mirrorless bags is that they are targeted at the entry user with a 2 lens kit max. Try to fit an OMD E-M1 and you are sending bags back left and right. Take the Mirrorless Mover 30i by Think Tank. First it is nowhere near as nice as their Retrospective line. Secont it is less usable than your typical Lowepro or Tamarac. The OMD just doesn't work here but a Samsung NX 300 works great. I settled on a Tenba Mini Messenger for the OMD and really like a bag with a lens down camera cradle. I would have looked at this bag too if it were available but the easy access on the Tenba still wins out.

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twenty200
By twenty200 (2 months ago)

I own a Tamrac bag and am mostly happy with it. They make great bags... but look at that clip. It's the worst I've ever seen on any bag. That weird almost triangle shape is way to easy to mis-align when trying to close the bag. It's really terrible. I assumed the horrible clip would be the first thing they'd change, but there it is, years later, on new bags. I have no idea what the people at Tamrac are thinking. I like their bags a lot, but that clip is really terrible.

4 upvotes
EricoftheNorth
By EricoftheNorth (2 months ago)

I appreciate the annoyance at the misalignment issue, but the one handed operation is much easier to open.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (2 months ago)

It's great for opening with one hand and literally impossible to close with one hand. Over the years, they've had more clips than a hardware store but still not there. I you can live with the noise, Velcro works and looks less like a camera bag.

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twenty200
By twenty200 (2 months ago)

@EricoftheNorth: The one handed operation is precisely why this clip is so bad. I own an older Tamrac bag with a different clip, and it's a breeze to open one handed. I also own a Tamrac bag with this clip, and the shape makes it needlessly difficult to use while on the go. It's too easy to struggle to close, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone were to break the thing. It's poorly designed.

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Rocky Mtn Old Boy
By Rocky Mtn Old Boy (2 months ago)

It would be an interesting statistic to see which gets stolen more... photography or laptop bags, lol.

My guess it's laptops.

Better design one that looks like a picnic basket, imho.

2 upvotes
NotSteve
By NotSteve (2 months ago)

You're missing the point I think. Laptops are cheap and very common nowadays and many are carried in an inconspicuous messenger-style shoulder bags. Most typical PC laptops are under $1000, and that would be what most people have (as opposed to pricier macbooks). Camera equipment that you'd need a bag like this for is probably on the order of $1500-2000 -- a decent DSLR body and a couple lenses. If you were a thief, would you go after the a laptop or the camera equipment?

In terms of absolute numbers, more people have laptops than DSLRs, so yes, in all likelihood more laptops get stolen than photography bags, but I don't think that makes the point you are hoping to make. You'd need to look at percentages for each and even then, I don't think this point has any merit.

It's not much to make an inconspicuous design without in-your-face branding to make equipment more secure, so why not do it? Why advertise to potential thieves?

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sandskier
By sandskier (2 months ago)

Judging by the promotional video, this series of Tamrac bags have made little improvement compared to similar bags in the past . Have to say it is either lack of fore thought or cost cutting because the shoulder strap adjustment is stillby way of one adjustment buckle instead of two. Of the latest Tamrac collection, a Rally 6, the adjustment buckle always ends up digging into my shoulder, no matter what length the strap was adjusted to. Take a look at Vanguard Up-Rise series to appreciate the two adjust ment strap design such that a buckle won't ever dig into your shoulder once the strap is adjusted to ones liking. The main closure buckle; it is a poor design because it is awkward to close it using only one hand.

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SeeRoy
By SeeRoy (2 months ago)

Another camera bag. Fantastic breakthrough. There was such a paucity of camera bags to chose from up to now. It's trific to know that industry is in a white-hot ferment of innovation, plugging all those yawning gaps in the limited range of commodities that are on offer. It's good to know that all that entrepreneurial energy isn't being wasted creating trivial and redundant junk.

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T3
By T3 (2 months ago)

That's like saying that clothing designers should stop designing pants and shirts, because such things have already been done! LOL.

Sorry, but the reality of business is that you regularly have to refresh your product line. Even if it means just minor refreshes, or minor changes. Also, not every refreshed product or new product introduction needs to have "fantastic breakthrough". Sometimes, companies and businesses need to refresh their products or introduce updated products to the market simply to remind the market that they exist! In other cases, small aesthetic changes need to be made in response to changing times and changing tastes. If you've ever run your own business, you'll understand these things.

People who think that companies should *only* introduce new or updated products when they can offer "fantastic breakthrough" simply don't understand the realities of business. Update or die. Few companies can get away with not updating or refreshing their products.

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Daedbird
By Daedbird (2 months ago)

Unfortunately, this is just a series of camera messenger bags that continue to look like camera bags to me. Its a nice effort, but it looks like a camera bag with a flap....

I feel my only option is to buy a laptop messenger bag, and install some collapsable padded pockets inside to hold the camera.

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Absolutic
By Absolutic (2 months ago)

I've been using for over a year a bag that DOES not look like a camera bag, and is very stylish. Tamrac Aria. You need to check it out. It fits a lot, like can fit Canon 5DM3 with 24/70, 70-200 and EF580 flash easily. http://www.amazon.com/Tamrac-5423-Aria-Camera-Bag/dp/B007Z2CI5Q/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1391540798&sr=8-4&keywords=camera+bag+aria

it appears to others so thin, that one cannot even imagine there is a full frame camera inside.

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Fuzzfuzz
By Fuzzfuzz (2 months ago)

whats wrong with a camera bag looking like a camera bag?

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Kipplemaster
By Kipplemaster (2 months ago)

It's true the Aria doesn't look like a camera bag. It looks like a Lady's handbag.

3 upvotes
Absolutic
By Absolutic (2 months ago)

Kipplemaster, i disagree with you. It is unisex bag in person and can be worn by anyone. It is masculine enough for a man.

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Ednaz
By Ednaz (2 months ago)

In some locations in the world, wearing a camera bag that's readily identifiable as such makes you a preferred target for snatch and grab thefts. If your bag looks generic and ambiguous, they look for someone with a bag that's not ambiguous. I know some photo journalists who carry extensively modified lunch bags, cheap messenger bags, etc, to be less visible.

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NotSteve
By NotSteve (2 months ago)

Absolutic, I would say it does look like a purse, if only because most guys, at least in North America, don't carry around a bag of that size and design. It's too small to be a laptop bag, a messenger bag or school bag...

1 upvote
PicOne
By PicOne (2 months ago)

Whatever happened to the fad of using these types of bags?

http://www.zappos.com/diaper-dude-messenger-bag-w-flap-1-black

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white shadow
By white shadow (2 months ago)

The best and most stealthy camera bag is a modified ice-cream or freezer bag. Cheap and good, even able to keep the heat out on a hot day. One may even get it for free when one buy a carton of ice-cream in a supermarket.

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arhmatic
By arhmatic (2 months ago)

All this camera bags are just screaming they are camera bags.
Just waiting to be stolen.
Terrible style.

Just put your camera in a pouch, then throw it into any bag, so it looks like any random bag.

If it's a larger SLR, then it might eb tricky, but with mirrorless and 2-3 lenses, you can fit it into any shoulder bag. And all this "protection" worries are non-sense. You are not in a war zone

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Eric Hensel
By Eric Hensel (2 months ago)

Frankly, it sounds like you are in a war-zone --if your biggest concern is theft.?

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chris_j_l
By chris_j_l (2 months ago)

@Eric - no need to be in a warzone - try photo/filming a documentary in Costa Rica - we were robbed 3 times in a fortnight. No violence - all opportunistic stuff - and it was the Peli cases that were targeted. I do have doubts that a bag that looks like a messenger bag would deter many pick pockets from trying.

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arhmatic
By arhmatic (2 months ago)

Eric, in many parts of the world, US included, your camera bag is a target. Period.

Just wear any regular bag, limit unnecessary padding, limit your bulkiness, and you reduce the chances of being robbed/stolen.

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T3
By T3 (2 months ago)

Kinda hard to steal a bag (whether it looks like a camera bag or not) when it's on you! The single best way to prevent a camera bag from being stolen is simple to have it on you at all times, or to have in in sight at all times. You put down *any* bag (whether it looks like a camera bag or not), you're inviting it to be stolen. So the reality is that all these "theft" worries associated with a camera bag looking like a camera bag are overblown. It's not as if someone is going to run up to you and rip it off your shoulders! I've traveled throughout the world with a camera bag, and have never had such a thing happen. Same goes for agency photogs and pjs working all over the world. They'll all say the same thing: doesn't matter what your camera bag looks like, just don't leave it un-attended!

As for why we prefer to use real camera bags, it really comes down to effective organization and access to our equipment. Throwing all our gear "into any bag" just doesn't cut it.

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T3
By T3 (2 months ago)

Besides, if you're so paranoid about theft due to carrying anything that might remotely hint that you have a camera on you, then it's surprising you take your camera out at all! Me, when I travel, I always have my camera hanging on my shoulder, *outside* by camera bag. There's nothing that tells people that you have a camera on you like...having a camera on you, hanging from your shoulder! And yet, in two decades of travel, in and out of the US, it's never been an issue. But I've had friends and colleagues who've had gear stolen (from their cars, from their bags, from their gear boxes) because they were left un-attended. *Never* lose sight of your gear.

Real photographers carry their cameras on them, ready to use, not constantly hidden away in bags, too paranoid to use them, for fear that they become "targets".

Plus, statistically, the reality is that you're MUCH MUCH MUCH more likely to be the target of theft if you use an iPhone than you are if you carry a camera.

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arhmatic
By arhmatic (2 months ago)

@t3 - tell this the the guy in Medellin, Colombia, when a gun is pointed to your face. Sure, you are watching the camera...

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Ednaz
By Ednaz (2 months ago)

T3 - when two guys ride by on a motorbike and grab that camera bag that you've got slung across your body, you're going down hard and they'll be off with your bag. I've seen a couple of those - a few years ago in Vietnam, another time in Indonesia. Helped convince me to shoulder carry cameras and bags. There are places where it's wise to choose your gear carefully - my big wonderful f2.8 zooms and D800 don't go with me into the Bronx, but my Fuji xpro with a couple of primes in a threadbare messenger bag doesn't look much like a camera anyone wants. It's not an issue in a lot of places, and therefore not for a lot of people, but it is something worth paying attention to if what you want to shoot is in an area where your gear equals a couple months of income for the average person around you.

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darngooddesign
By darngooddesign (2 months ago)

@Eric. In a war zone theft is not your greatest concern.

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white shadow
By white shadow (2 months ago)

Snatch thieves and pick-pockets are everywhere and can happen anytime. Those who have not seen them yet are just lucky. Try walking around Naples, Rome or Paris alone. Try Tram 22 in Prague without a friend or two watching your back. Try walking around Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia along the main streets or night market with an "expensive looking" bag. Try wondering around India. Not only will they steal your camera when they have the opportunity, they will even rape your girlfriend or you if you are a reasonably attractive woman. There is no guarentee it won't happen even with a mascular man around when both are surrounded by 6-8 desperate local men. It happen all too often. Not many become international news.

Keeping a very low profile and taking all necessary precaution is the best way to move around.

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trulandphoto
By trulandphoto (2 months ago)

Interestingly, Tamrac has yet to put them on their website. Or is this something that will take a while to get to the States.

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DavidMK42
By DavidMK42 (2 months ago)

While we're talking, for a vacation camera/computer bag for a DSLR w. 18-135, a couple of point & shoots, & a 13" MacBook Pro, do you think anything beats the Vanguard Up-Rise 33?

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Ednaz
By Ednaz (2 months ago)

If you're known for making camera bags primarily, and you put your logo on the front of the bag, you've lost the right to use the word "discreet."

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Josh152
By Josh152 (2 months ago)

I was thing the exact same thing.

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stan_pustylnik
By stan_pustylnik (2 months ago)

Finally someone recognized that normal looking rugged shoulder bag is needed!

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InTheMist
By InTheMist (2 months ago)

Tamracs are my favorite bags. There is one hanging off my shoulder right now!

1 upvote
Mark Roberts
By Mark Roberts (2 months ago)

I'm amazed how few haters are checking in about a bag review.

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Prognathous
By Prognathous (2 months ago)

I thought the fact that Tamrac filed for Chapter 11 meant we won't see any new products from them in the foreseeable future. Good to see that bankruptcy doesn't necessarily mean going out of business.

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Al Valentino
By Al Valentino (2 months ago)

Variation of the Tamrac Rally series. I have the Rally 4 and love it.

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Island Golfer
By Island Golfer (2 months ago)

This is actually something I have been contemplating. However. on initial observation, I see two things I don't care for. First is the double-zippered rear slot that accomodates slipping the bag over the handle of your other luggage. Why the zippers? There is no need for it; and it is one more thing to unzip & deal with in the terminal. Lowepro has the same feature, without this nuisance. Second thing I don't like is that it appears as if even the Apache 6 is not deep enough to accomodate a D800 + a 24-70 + its attached hood. But, all manufacturers seem to short their bags in this way. All that's needed ia another 3/4 of an inch.

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antares103
By antares103 (2 months ago)

unzip it once. leave it unzipped. voila! Ready to go next time.

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T3
By T3 (2 months ago)

With the zippers, you can use it to store flat things when it's not being used on your luggage. Without the zippers, that section of the bag is completely useless when it's not being used on your luggage. So it totally makes sense to include those zippers (as opposed to not having the zippers). After all, what fraction of the time is this bag going to spend on your luggage, versus the amount of time it is going to be used off your luggage? Obviously, it's going to spend most of its time off your luggage, so you might as well be able to use that rear section as a flat storage compartment...hence the zippers! D'uh!

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LensBeginner
By LensBeginner (2 months ago)

...in the luggage...
no, wait, the zippers off the luggage?
...or was it the luggage on the zippers off the luggage?
...or the storage in the luggage off the luggage for the zippers?
...or the zipp...

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wudyi
By wudyi (2 months ago)

Don't care for those plastic yolk clips. Too awkward. Strong magnet would be more to my liking. But I'd never use a big bag like that anyway, so who cares.

2 upvotes
T3
By T3 (2 months ago)

So why post at all about a product you'd "never use" anyway? Lonely? LOL.

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wudyi
By wudyi (2 months ago)

@ t3...so I can get someone like you to comment on my meaningless comment.

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contadorfan
By contadorfan (2 months ago)

I realize there aren't a lot of women on this site, but it would be nice if DPR would review some of the fashionable camera bags for women: Kelly Moore, JoTotes, EpihanieBags, CheekyLime. Those are bags that a gal wouldn't feel like a dork for carrying one around, yet I wonder how comfortable and practical they are for a day out with a camera & several lenses.

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D200_4me
By D200_4me (2 months ago)

I think Tamrac's 'Aria' line is targeted for women. I think so anyway....

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contadorfan
By contadorfan (2 months ago)

Thanks for mentioning it. The Aria line is for small cameras, but looks like a nice bag.

Should be EpiphanieBags in the original post.

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xMichaelx
By xMichaelx (2 months ago)

Not all women are stereotypes.

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contadorfan
By contadorfan (2 months ago)

Who's doing the stereotyping, and what do stereotypes have to do with this anyway?

I'd much prefer something cute, colorful, or classy with convenience as opposed to something purely utilitarian and drab. Is that so terrible?

4 upvotes
ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (2 months ago)

@contadorfan, I'm "disqualified" to ask for a review like that. :) Yet such camera bag might be a good gift idea. +1.

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contadorfan
By contadorfan (2 months ago)

It's not entirely a frivolous interest. For a woman walking around a city or town, a camera bag that looks like a woman's normal fashion handbag doesn't signal that there are several thousand dollar's worth of equipment inside. Wouldn't work in the desert Southwest or on the wrong turf, of course, but in some locales it would help a gal blend in. :)

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Rod McD
By Rod McD (2 months ago)

University of life : Water resistance is better than no water resistance, but.....
- All fabric backpacks and bags leak. Sooner or later.
- No fabric bag offers crush resistance worthy of the term.
- Cameras in a backpack are behind you and on your back.
I haven't found a better solution (for me) than hard shell cases, but they aren't perfect either. Only very few models can be worn over the shoulder and opened to work from without putting them down.....

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (2 months ago)

Aren't hard cases more for transporting equipment rather than holding your stuff ready to use while you're in the field? Surely you'd have both a hard case and one of these?

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Tonio Loewald
By Tonio Loewald (2 months ago)

I think it depends on how you work. If you shoot in studios, or drive right to the shoot then a hard case makes perfect sense. If you're hiking or walking then something less cumbersome makes sense. Everything's a tradeoff, right?

As for the "cameras in a backpack are on your back" — cameras in a backpack aren't weighing you down or bumping into things as much as cameras anywhere else — maybe the difference between getting a shot and not getting it is whether you were able to walk that extra mile. A good backpack can be slung on one shoulder and has some form of quick access.

I like my Manfrotto backpack because it has both quick access to the top compartment and everything else requires me to take off the backpack to get at it. It's the only camera bag I've been stopped and asked about by other photographers.

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T3
By T3 (2 months ago)

As for water resistance, just apply a water-resistant spray product, such as Kiwi Camp Dry. I apply it to all my camping gear, backpacks, shoes, etc, that I want to repel water. Works great!

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xMichaelx
By xMichaelx (2 months ago)

I've been backpacking in the Grand Canyon with no bag at all - the camera around my neck and lenses in the backpack pockets and easily accessible.

Life's too short to use nothing but hard bags.

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Rod McD
By Rod McD (2 months ago)

To Andy and others - I'd agree that the briefcase style hard shell cases are more for transport and storage. They're not that good in the field as I inferred in my first post. However, there are a few models (eg the UK 609 Dry Boxes) that are hard shell top loaders that can be worn over the shoulder on a strap and worked from. They're light, gasket sealed, 100% water and dust proof, far more knock and crush resistant than fabric bags and right where you need them. I do use fabric bags when doing general travel, but if I'm hiking for days in wilderness areas or bad weather, I don't think you can go past something like a Dry Box.

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five5pho
By five5pho (2 months ago)

Lowepro event messenger series is just as good, almost same model and much cheaper

7 upvotes
audiobomber
By audiobomber (2 months ago)

I have an Event Messenger 150. I really like the bag, but the softer fabric and weather-resistance of the Tamrac Apache bags is appealing.

0 upvotes
Leandros S
By Leandros S (2 months ago)

Is this really more important than working on the Pentax K-3 review?

4 upvotes
BaldCol
By BaldCol (2 months ago)

Not for me me. No interest in K-3 but interested in a new bag.

22 upvotes
TakePictures
By TakePictures (2 months ago)

At least it's less work I suspect.

1 upvote
Zeisschen
By Zeisschen (2 months ago)

I hope copy paste of the press release only took them 5 minutes...

2 upvotes
Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (2 months ago)

I don't think copy and pasting a press release took any time away from the K-3 review.

9 upvotes
Greg VdB
By Greg VdB (2 months ago)

Outwardly, they look a lot like a schoolbag I had in the early nineties ;-)

I'm sure these are well made and perfectly good if you're after such a bag. Personally though, when I go into rugged terrain, I take my Lowepro Rover Pro 45L AW, which is half photo backpack - half trecking backpack, together with a holster type bag. This setup is much more practical I find than carrying a bag like the ones above (too annoying for serious hiking) + a normal backpack, or just a dedicated photography backpack (no room for trecking material).

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Summi Luchs
By Summi Luchs (2 months ago)

Even if they resemble an old schoolbag, they still look like camera bags. Not discreet enough for areas where carrying expensive camera equipment shouldn' t be too obvious. So I still have to use more or less suitable bags not primarily designed for photography.

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2 upvotes
leno
By leno (2 months ago)

The problem is anything designed for photography looks like a camera bag.

3 upvotes
Greg VdB
By Greg VdB (2 months ago)

Well, if you are in an area where there's a high risk of being mugged (or worse), *any* bag you carry will draw attention. Especially if, like me, you're tall and blond and stand out as a foreigner in most places around the world...

1 upvote
Habemus_Canon
By Habemus_Canon (2 months ago)

"Rugged Looking" means "won't be mistaken for a woman's purse" so that a guy can feel comfortable carrying it.

4 upvotes
leno
By leno (2 months ago)

We like to call it a Manbag.

11 upvotes
Infared
By Infared (2 months ago)

No, Tom Waits face is rugged looking...this bag looks like a woman's autumn purse.

2 upvotes
kodachromeguy
By kodachromeguy (2 months ago)

Similar to how "rugged looking" on crossovers means big bulbous tires and aggressive plastic fittings so the guy can fool his friends that he is not driving a minivan.

3 upvotes
alexzn
By alexzn (2 months ago)

Tamrac still does not get how a discreet camera bag should look like...

8 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (2 months ago)

They do, but being really discrete would mean not getting free advertising from the purchaser. But at least with these bags you're only paying $100 to give Tamrac free advertising, vs. Canon or Nikon where you pay thousands of dollars to be a billboard with their straps and bags.

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3 upvotes
WayneHuangPhoto
By WayneHuangPhoto (2 months ago)

Tamrac spelled backward is "Car mat"?

16 upvotes
Samuel Dilworth
By Samuel Dilworth (2 months ago)

The answer is yes.

0 upvotes
leno
By leno (2 months ago)

Tarmac ?

0 upvotes
BorisAkunin
By BorisAkunin (2 months ago)

I've always read it as camcrap

0 upvotes
D1N0
By D1N0 (2 months ago)

Take your pick:
Cam Tar
Cam Rat
Cam Art
Mac Tar
Mac Rat
Mac Art
Cram At
Arc Tam
Arc Mat
Car Tam
Car Mat
Cart Am
Cart Ma
Act Arm
Act Ram
Act Mar
Cat Arm
Cat Ram
Cat Mar

1 upvote
Zeisschen
By Zeisschen (2 months ago)

what the heck means "rugged-looking"? Is it some marketing language like "all metallic lens"?

10 upvotes
jnd
By jnd (2 months ago)

It's about as abmiguous as "weather sealed".

1 upvote
BJN
By BJN (2 months ago)

All those hands feeling up the bag, sensually pulling tabs and zippers...

8 upvotes
Paul Farace
By Paul Farace (2 months ago)

it comes to the party late with not a lot of goodies... but still it will be tested and it's all in the finish and fit... but what does it offer that its five or six competitors don't? That's your job DP Review!

2 upvotes
Infared
By Infared (2 months ago)

It's not a messenger bag...it a camera case...and a planin one at that. :-)

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8 upvotes
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