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CES 2014: Nikon Stand Report

By dpreview staff on Jan 8, 2014 at 17:12 GMT
CES 2014: Nikon Stand Report
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CES 2014: Nikon Stand Report

Nikon's booth, near the back of the Central Hall, showed off their latest products, and also had a live demo of their 'HD SLR' cameras, replete with models.

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Total comments: 66
getoutandshoot
By getoutandshoot (3 months ago)

The most interesting "Nikon" thing I've seen from CES is the new SIGMA "Art" 50mm f/1.4.

As a serious wildlife/bird photographer with lots of money invested in pro Nikon gear, but with no strong inclination to use an FX body, Nikon is boring me with everything they put out. I want more serious DX gear, starting with a true pro DX body, and high quality fast lenses designed for DX.

I'll keep waiting, and in the meantime use the very good gear I have (I'm currently using the D7100). Unless Nikon listens to customers like me, it seems only a matter of time until another brand like Fuji or Pentax offers me a compelling reason to abandon Nikon for good.

Dave

1 upvote
Hauer
By Hauer (3 months ago)

Still no Prosumer D400 DX! Nikon have you been listening to your market???
Still no AF-S 300VR nano-coated f/4G!!!

Both products long overdue...

Herman

2 upvotes
NetMage
By NetMage (3 months ago)

Perhaps the Coolpix S6800 sections should be fixed:

pic 9 - is it 25-300 or 25-600? or 12x or 24x?
pic 11 - is it the S6800 again or the S5300?
pic 12 - same question

0 upvotes
ProfHankD
By ProfHankD (3 months ago)

I like the array of 68 DSLRs. Well, I'd like it if my computational photography research budget let me buy things like 68 DSLRs. I just have fleets of webcams and Canon PowerShots under CHDK. ;-)

Incidentally, I'm really impressed if they got reliable wireless tethering on the show floor at CES. I would have expected enough wireless traffic to cause all sorts of problems -- as we've had doing even more modest wireless capture control at IEEE/ACM Supercomputing conferences.

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JEROME NOLAS
By JEROME NOLAS (3 months ago)

The end of digital cameras is here, no room for improvement!

3 upvotes
Everlast66
By Everlast66 (3 months ago)

No, it's the end of DSLR camera improvement only. Mirrorless cameras have to greatly improve AF speed and then DSLRs will be gone.

1 upvote
peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

DPR, I cannot believe you highlighted L830 on 3 (THREE!) pages (6 to 8)! This is certainly an ad.

1 upvote
peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

S6800 on 4! Just ridiculous.

1 upvote
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (3 months ago)

@peeve - what...? Not following your logic here. It's a new camera that was announced at the show.

1 upvote
ybizzle
By ybizzle (3 months ago)

Clearly this was because of how ground breaking it was, not to mention it's impact on the photography world. We are talking about a camera with 34x optical zoom!! 34!!

3 upvotes
Revenant
By Revenant (3 months ago)

Sorry, but I don't follow the logic either. You wouldn't have complained and called it an ad, if it were a camera you were personally interested in, would you? Instead, you would want them to write a preview, with even more pictures, and a description of all the important specs.

1 upvote
pacnwhobbyist
By pacnwhobbyist (3 months ago)

I actually think Nikon had the strongest showing (relatively speaking) of all the camera makers in terms of new product announcement at CES. I would've thought Canon would've showcased new Rebels but I guess they are going to do that in a separate product announcement later in the Winter.

1 upvote
Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (3 months ago)

Don't forget that there are still two major shows to go.
First we have CP+ in Japan and later this year Photokina in Cologne Germany.

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BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

That's true but this has been an genuine dissapointment.
The canon n100 is my best compact pick of this CES. That says more about the competition then about the n100.

0 upvotes
Nikon2011
By Nikon2011 (3 months ago)

anyone wants to tell the guys ^UP THERE^ to put on display my brand new 300f4 vr5th (n)(if)(ed)(swm)(etcetc)(weathersealed)(+) ?

2 upvotes
tinzi1
By tinzi1 (3 months ago)

Nikon flash you with all the cool stuff behind glass. but ultimately, you can only get a hold on the coolpix lol and diff color too. Who care about their coolpix line nowaday ahha.

1 upvote
BorisAkunin
By BorisAkunin (3 months ago)

So, will all brands get a stand report?

1 upvote
Jeff Keller
By Jeff Keller (3 months ago)

We're working on it!

1 upvote
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (3 months ago)

@BorisAkunin - all of the camera manufacturers with major products at the show will get a report, yes. We had meetings and took a load of pictures yesterday, and today we're focused on getting them written up.

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BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

I really appreciate your work and enthusiasm. Don't over do it though. The products ain't worth it. Nothing major has been launched so far.

Comment edited 57 seconds after posting
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ybizzle
By ybizzle (3 months ago)

The only product that is causing a buzz with Nikon is the Df. Hate or love it, it is unique in the DSLR segment. There is nothing more I love than a retro designed camera meant purely for photography. Hence why I own an OMD-EM5, X100S, and Lumix DMC-L1 amongst others.

However, it is the L1 which affords me that pure joy of photography when coupled with manual Carl Zeiss lenses. No video, no scene modes, no nonsense. Truly a real photographer's camera!

2 upvotes
rfsIII
By rfsIII (3 months ago)

Will someone at CES please tape the Nikon seminars and show them here. That would be a huge reader service.

0 upvotes
ybizzle
By ybizzle (3 months ago)

Wow people still use tapes? Do you have any idea how much tape you would need for 15 mins of 4K footage? :O

0 upvotes
InfSociety Digital
By InfSociety Digital (3 months ago)

I am sure rfsIII use the "tape" term referring to the recording action and not the media being used for recording.

The answer to your question...Type of media/tape and desired quality will determine "how much".

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Carlos Loff
By Carlos Loff (3 months ago)

A cool show for amateurs and or beginners , its a petty Nikon has forgotten professionals that need good DX cameras - Long time ago forgotten - Outrageous

2 upvotes
mgblack74
By mgblack74 (3 months ago)

It's the "Consumer" Electronics Show.

1 upvote
BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

That's no excuse for not bringing your A game.

0 upvotes
Roy D15
By Roy D15 (3 months ago)

The D4s is not "Consumer" . . . .

0 upvotes
mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (3 months ago)

Canon Crapped out again this year.

2 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (3 months ago)

And it's already January so 2014 looks like a write-off. To think that they didn't have a breakthrough product at a super-exciting show like this one.

3 upvotes
BorisAkunin
By BorisAkunin (3 months ago)

There's still CP+ and Photokina...

More than enough opportunities for Canon to not announce a 7D mkII and for Nikon not to announce a D400.

4 upvotes
nunatak
By nunatak (3 months ago)

is it possible this lot of balding, pot-bellied, middle aged, nikon men are catering to the wrong demographic?

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6 upvotes
rfsIII
By rfsIII (3 months ago)

Hey, I'm a balding, pot-bellied middle aged man! And a Nikon user!
What you teenage punks don't understand is that being an effective marketer is not about your age, it's your ability to let go of your ego and remind yourself that EVERYTHING you know is wrong, and then to act accordingly.
Like me...every morning I get up and look myself in the eye in the mirror and say "you are NOT your audience."
Maybe Nikon is collecting bad data. Or maybe they suffer from arrogance.
But please don't blame bad decisions on age. Now...I think I hear your momma callin'. Something about you gotta finish your algebra homework before you can watch Vampire Diaries.

25 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (3 months ago)

They are just low paid guys, trying to make it to retirement without getting the Kodak treatment. They have no say whatsoever in the design of cameras for young, cool people, which is probably just as well.

4 upvotes
Jogger
By Jogger (3 months ago)

balding, pot-bellied, middle aged men tend to have more money than hipsters, living in their parents basement, sipping starbucks all day, and trying to make it big with their iPhone instagram "photography"

13 upvotes
nunatak
By nunatak (3 months ago)

"Hey, I'm a balding, pot-bellied middle aged man! And a Nikon user! "

then that probably makes me your elder, but, er, neither balding, nor pot-bellied. if Nikon wants to grow their systems, they need to cater to an up-and-coming audience, of mixed gender, experiences, and age — not just the mid-to-old age men which [it looks like] these guys best relate to. as with any monoculture — diversity is the key to survival.

4 upvotes
Rob Bernhard
By Rob Bernhard (3 months ago)

[[We haven't played it yet, but Allison is now a character in a video game in which you run through the desert looking for D610s. Seriously.]]

Wait, did Nikon just re-create Desert Bus?

0 upvotes
Timbukto
By Timbukto (3 months ago)

Is the xxArray just a tech demo or a commercially successful product? It boggles my mind that they can create an instant way to put someone into a video game using 68 tethered DSLRs...yet *no* company has truly made compelling tethered wi-fi controls to tablets or smartphones. Simply mind-boggling the priority they have. I would have said previously that they didn't have the resources to do it...but apparently they have enough software engineering or resources to pour into a game where you seek out D610s? Reality Check...put some *intelligent* features into your camera's and people will be seeking out D610's in reality and not a video game.

3 upvotes
Jeff Keller
By Jeff Keller (3 months ago)

I think it's more of a tech demo at this point. More details: http://xxarray.com/about/technology/

1 upvote
Timbukto
By Timbukto (3 months ago)

Ok I just googled, the xxArray is only Nikon sponsored but the brainchild of an independent company/person who is using Nikon cameras. Still we see companies like Apple hire the maker of SnappyCam who figured out how to capture and process images from the iPhone at 20-30 fps full resolution. Why don't Canikon spend just a little to get a whole lot of competitive edge? Instead of expanding R&D everything is done at a trepid pace in-house. BTW why hasn't DPConnect provided coverage on the SnappyCam acquisition and provide their own take on the technology used? From what I read the PhD creator came up with a wickedly efficient way to generate jpegs from ARM chipsets, etc.

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mgblack74
By mgblack74 (3 months ago)

Because Apple has more money than Poland.

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Timbukto
By Timbukto (3 months ago)

Yes but they weren't always like that...they were almost dead in the water at one point. They got to where they were because of vision and innovation before money. I think its stupid to assume you even need a whole lot...Go Pro proves that folks in garages still can make money with products people *want*. Camera companies are not listening...still *more* crappy compacts with 460k LCDs that have *worse* LCD resolution and potentially worse shot to shot response compared to phones consumers purchase for $200 on contract? Canikon had plenty of money, to say money is the primary difference is ignoring how Apple or Google came to strength. The trend is going to continue, smartphone companies will have *leading* edge imaging processing software and top-notch UIs, and Japanese companies sit and cry and wonder why smartphones are taking their lunch.

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roustabout66
By roustabout66 (3 months ago)

Apple may have had vision and innovation, but it was an infusion of cash by Microsoft that saved Apple.

1 upvote
WACONimages
By WACONimages (3 months ago)

What happened to the Nikon 1 series??? Like the waterproof version, or a new V3 for example. An underrated system because of it sensor. But a camera is more as its sensor size alone!

3 upvotes
xMichaelx
By xMichaelx (3 months ago)

A camera is only as good as the images it creates. Sensor is a major part of that.

I can put my phone in a ziploc and take underwater pics, but that doesn't make it a good tool for me because the images are crap. Ditto for the Nikon 1 series.

5 upvotes
xMichaelx
By xMichaelx (3 months ago)

A camera is only as good as the images it creates. Sensor is a major part of that.

I can put my phone in a ziploc and take underwater pics, but that doesn't make it a good tool for me because the images are crap. Ditto for the Nikon 1 series.

3 upvotes
groucher
By groucher (3 months ago)

Yes but your crappy phone doesn't do 60fps at highest res, is crap in poor light and you can't fit any decent lenses to it so no real contest or comparison.

8 upvotes
WACONimages
By WACONimages (3 months ago)

The 1 series should be a must have camera for every DX/FX user as well. 60fps and ad Nikkor glass with the FT-1 adapter makes something special. With the latest firmware update the FT-1 adapter even has C-AF!

4 upvotes
rfsIII
By rfsIII (3 months ago)

I find it quite ironic that the Nikon 1s are so dissed, yet the Sony cameras with the same sensor are treated like they're miniature PhaseOnes. I don't get it.

9 upvotes
degsy_safc
By degsy_safc (3 months ago)

xMichaelx wrote - "because the images are crap. Ditto for the Nikon 1 series."

Ohh how wrong you are ....

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4 upvotes
Revenant
By Revenant (3 months ago)

Great pictures are created by photographers, not sensors. Unless you focus more on pixel-peeping and looking for noise in your images, than focusing on the composition and overall impact of the image.
I'd say that a camera is only as good as the photographer who uses it.

2 upvotes
questionlp
By questionlp (3 months ago)

@rfsIII, I think the reason why Sony's RX line (which uses the 1"-type sensor that's found in the Nikon 1) gets lauded is that Sony, so far, has not made it into an MILC like the Nikon 1. The RX100 and RX10 have fixed lenses and the RX100 is pretty darn tiny with a metal body. And yes, I have an RX100.

Even though I have a good number of F mount lenses, I think I would probably opt for an Olympus m4/3 over a Nikon 1 for its controls and really great primes (Pana/Leica, Oly or Voigtlander). Having the ability to attach a tele F mount lens on a Nikon 1 would be the reason why I wouldn't count it out as an option.

1 upvote
peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

"I find it quite ironic that the Nikon 1s are so dissed, yet the Sony cameras with the same sensor are treated like they're miniature PhaseOnes. I don't get it."

Because you, and the 3 people who pressed LIKE on your post (on of whom is probably you) are ignorant.
1. It is not the same sensor.
2. 4x zoom starting from f/1.8 is not the same as 2.5x zoom starting from f/3.5 - 4 times the difference in light (and signal to noise)
3. RX100 with that 4 times brighter lens is still much smaller, stays pocketable.

3 upvotes
BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

That about sums it up. That's why I made an poll.
Nikon 1 can work if they buy in the sony sensor and make at least an 2.8-4 kit zoom. Shouldn't be too hard with an 1 inch sensor

0 upvotes
racketman
By racketman (3 months ago)

did Canon rent a table in the corner for their two compact cameras?

1 upvote
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (3 months ago)

I hope they didn't pay for the carpet padding and the table skirt because it's obvious the place to show things is either Photo Plus or Photokina. The rest is just to show you're still in business.

1 upvote
attomole
By attomole (3 months ago)

Its almost like being there

0 upvotes
Jogger
By Jogger (3 months ago)

Most folks attending CES are iPhone-tographers. I suspect many have never used a real camera.

10 upvotes
expoboy52
By expoboy52 (3 months ago)

From a longtime Nikon user . . . that was a big yawn. Pushing me closer and closer to the Sony a7.

1 upvote
M Lammerse
By M Lammerse (3 months ago)

so you base your camera usage/need on the presentation during a camera show, or better said a camera show report.

Ah, I see your nickname..expo. Yes, as an expo CES is never the Disneyland of camera presentations. Good luck with the a7!

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expoboy52
By expoboy52 (3 months ago)

Of course I wouldn't base a purchase on a camera show or report, especially a show I haven't attended. However, I've been looking at the Sony since it was released. Mirrorless cameras have intrigued me for many years. If Nikon could come out with something similar I'd be first in line. But the V series has proven a disaster. If Nikon and Canon don't make some bold move, they'll be left in the dust.

2 upvotes
Kim Seng
By Kim Seng (3 months ago)

Sony Fan boy..

0 upvotes
leicaman
By leicaman (3 months ago)

Why did they bother?

3 upvotes
JEROME NOLAS
By JEROME NOLAS (3 months ago)

Nobody really knows...

1 upvote
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (3 months ago)

Because historically, PMA was held at this time of year. But now that cameras are less about hand-crafted precision and more about the latest high speed chip, it makes sense to show them at an electronics show.

0 upvotes
ballwin12
By ballwin12 (3 months ago)

Poor Nikon !

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