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Russian Mother captures atmospheric photos of sons on farm

By dpreview staff on Jan 26, 2014 at 08:00 GMT
Mother captures heartwarming photos of sons on farm 
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Mother captures heartwarming photos of sons on farm 

Elena Shumilova's atmospheric photographs show a special bond between her sons Yaroslav and Vanya and their animals, on the family farm in rural Russia. Her images are deliberately dreamlike and highly evocative, capturing the bond between her young sons and their animal playmates. The Russian mother took up photography in 2012 and currently uses a Canon 5D Mark II and Canon 135mm lens.   

To see more of Shumilova's photographs check out her Flickr and 500px sites. 

Via: Boredpanda.com , Source: 500px

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Jogger
By Jogger (3 months ago)

I like these photos.

8 upvotes
Earthlight
By Earthlight (3 months ago)

Hi impact images for sure! Well done! The style may not be everyone's cup of tea but hey, these images are doing the rounds in social media and it is not a coincidence.

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Daniel Lauring
By Daniel Lauring (3 months ago)

These are nice shots. I agree that there is a particular formula/technique, which emphasizes a separation of the subject and background, that includes Photoshop (not that that is a bad thing.)

You get a little of this effect when you use fill flash/off camera lighting, which looks to be used in some of these.

The other thing I'm seeing is a uniform blurring of the background...not linearly related to distance as you might expect or actually see with just the camera alone from shallow depth of field. In other words, you would expect details in the far background, like the treeline to be almost unrecognizable, given that things closer have so much blur. The weeds/flowers in the foreground have the same blur as the treeline. This suggests the background was masked and a uniform blur added. Possibly even a second picture was taken, at a smaller aperature, blurred and then added to the original.

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Daniel Lauring
By Daniel Lauring (3 months ago)

Some people might not like the "fake" look of these, but it is an interesting artistic effect. It allows the viewer to see and recognize the background scene, but puts the focus on the subject in the foreground.

4 upvotes
eyefuse
By eyefuse (3 months ago)

All of what you described is true - it's her style and a very skillfully used.

However, as you can see, the foregound (with leaves) is the same in #1 and #12, which means that she has added a layer of defocused ground to both images to emphasize the shallow DOF, that is not from the original image. Leaves are also cloned and mirrored in #1.

I'm all ok with the PP and tend do similar montage stuff myself (hence also spot it easily).

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Daniel Lauring
By Daniel Lauring (3 months ago)

Nice spot. I wonder if this might make the work a little monotonous after a while. Probably not an issue when making photos of clients for clients, but from an art standpoint it will be limiting.

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Iznogoud
By Iznogoud (3 months ago)

Wow! She also cloned the dog, the boy's clothes and... pretty much everything between pics #1 and #12...!

... just kidding here... sorry...

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eyefuse
By eyefuse (2 months ago)

If you can't spot this kind of basic photoshop cut & copy patching and blending - you have no right marvel about the skills of the photographer. There's people out there who think they can learn to take such images out of the camera...

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Marc Lorenz
By Marc Lorenz (3 months ago)

I don't know where this hate for post processing is coming from.
Anyway, I was reading some comments about nice bokeh, "FF look" etc.
The EXIF data for the images is actually available on flickr.
The first picture with the dog was shot with 135mm @ f2.5.
There is no way that this kind of shallow DOF results from FF sensor, L lens, or whatever. It's drastically post-blurred and masked with photoshop and the picture out of the cam looks quite different for sure.
Nothing frong with that IMO, but the "look" of this images has nothing to do with the camera/lenses used.

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mike kobal
By mike kobal (3 months ago)

@samuel dilworth
comparing Chloe's work to Elena's is like comparing a non fiction novel to fiction and declaring only non fiction should be valued

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Samuel Dilworth
By Samuel Dilworth (3 months ago)

I prefer the comparison of good writing to bad writing, since I like fiction.

3 upvotes
audijam
By audijam (3 months ago)

@Samnual
hence you are not very good at photography because you tend to use words to describe feeling rather the other way around.

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zzzorki7
By zzzorki7 (3 months ago)

I am Russian. Dear friends, is why so many negative reviews?
Moreover, the emphasis is on the nationality of the photographer. Sorry for bad English.

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AndreyT
By AndreyT (3 months ago)

Where exactly did you see "negative reviews with emphasis is on the nationality of the photographer"? I looked through the comments but couldn't find it.

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (3 months ago)

Same here. Zorkijs comment was rather surprising.

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Samuel Dilworth
By Samuel Dilworth (3 months ago)

Retch. It looks like something a nouveau riche Russian would make if she just discovered photography. Wait a minute…

I bear no ill will for people who like this kind of thing, since they know no better. But the DPReview staff does know better, and would better use its clout by exposing talented photographers making strong and relevant work.

You could start with Chloe Dewe Mathews if you want something good and likely to be enjoyed by many. I was mightily impressed by her ‘Caspian’ show recently.

www.vice.com/en_uk/picture-perfect/chloe-dewe-mathews

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Cane
By Cane (3 months ago)

What if chloe actually sucks and you have no idea what you are talking about?

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AndreyT
By AndreyT (3 months ago)

False. A "nouveau riche" who "just discovered photography" would not possibly produce pictures that require such massive amount of technical and artistic expertise as the photographs in question. Being "Russian" certainly helps, since it suggests that the baseline level of photographic skill is higher, but it is still not nearly sufficient.

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klopus
By klopus (3 months ago)

Andrey, I would agree with you but then you got me totally lost with your strange (if not downright offensive) phrase that somehow "being "Russian" certainly helps, since it suggests that the baseline level of photographic skill is higher". Higher by which Russians (all? only photogs? only pros? few of them?), compared to whom and why (genetics? mythical "духовность"?). I think we all can do without false national superiority here.

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Samuel Dilworth
By Samuel Dilworth (3 months ago)

Cane: take that up with Panos Pictures (her agency), St John’s College, Oxford (which gave her a residency), the British Journal of Photography (which awarded her its International Photography Award), the galleries that have shown her work, the newspapers that have praised it, etc.

I knew nothing about her when I walked into a gallery showing her work, and I was taken aback by the quality of it. Look her up.

Of course I’d like DPReview to bring my attention to other good photographers too, whom I’ve never heard of. That’s my point.

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (3 months ago)

A bloody video. Where she talks and talks and talks an nothing happens at any pace at all. Why point to that?

So - I used google to look for some images. Yeah, not bad stuff. Not my style though. The only image I remember is an old grumpy lady in a tub full with black liquid. And ... was there not also a young lady in a tub with lighter liquid?

You cannot really use those images to "prove" Elana's images are bad. It is like using Bjork to prove Beatles were bad. Things don't really compare over those dimensions.

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metolmetolovic
By metolmetolovic (3 months ago)

Velmi něžné a krásné. Držím palce...Zdenek

2 upvotes
abolit66
By abolit66 (3 months ago)

it does not matter how much of photoshop work she has applied to the pictures.. She's got style and taste of the real artist.

7 upvotes
garyknrd
By garyknrd (3 months ago)

You know it is not just this kind of photoshop work. It is in all photography now. Honestly it is 40% pic and 60% photoshop. And I am not criticizing. It's lovely work.
I do wildlife photography as a hobby. Do you think most of the pics you see are what came out of the camera? Not by a long shot.

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AlliHjelm
By AlliHjelm (3 months ago)

Both Russian and a mother!! How is this possible?? :) :)

Nice photos though.

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klopus
By klopus (3 months ago)

Huh?

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AlliHjelm
By AlliHjelm (3 months ago)

Just a joke reflecting on the headline sounding like neither Russians nor mothers are capable of this kind of shots.

1 upvote
abolit66
By abolit66 (3 months ago)

absolutely gorgeous! Thanks for sharing !

3 upvotes
joyclick
By joyclick (3 months ago)

It takes a large and generous heart to appreciate someone elses work.
These pictures are marvelous,photoshopped or not.

I would certainly want to see more and further work of hers

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straylightrun
By straylightrun (3 months ago)

Talentless dpreview pixelpeepers complaining about everything, when will they learn?

21 upvotes
Lea5
By Lea5 (3 months ago)

not in this century.

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Max Ander
By Max Ander (3 months ago)

Or ever

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (3 months ago)

But, but, but .... I am a pixel peeper and I love those images.

So, please do not generalize.

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aftab
By aftab (3 months ago)

Remarkable jealousy shown here by those who will never be able to produce anything remotely close.

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carabas
By carabas (3 months ago)

Why would anyone WANT to ?

Do I try to pass a quarter-pounder with cheese or simple rural food for haute cuisine because I do happen to find it more appealing than most real haute cuisine ? No, I understand the hierarchy at play and am perfectly happy with favoring a level of mediocrity for my personal consumption, yet I am aware of that mediocrity and that there exist things that are, objectively, better, even though I don't like them.

There is nothing wrong with these pictures, but there is a world of wrong pretending they qualify as art.

The egalitarian dictatorship of pretending everything is art and equally valid must cease, it is ruining culture and dumbing down the public discourse not only on culture, but science, society and politics as well.

Pretending these pictures are art is as hurtful as pretending creationism is a valid alternative to the theory of evolution or that the scientific community is still divided over the influence of humans on global warming.

5 upvotes
MercuryCoach
By MercuryCoach (3 months ago)

Blah, blah, blah.

Have you been appointed the official arbiter of art?

I found the images especially pleasing and would be happy to hang many of these on my wall to enjoy as "art".

12 upvotes
carabas
By carabas (3 months ago)

Yeah yeah, and Lady Gaga is music, and Harry Potter is literature, whatever...

4 upvotes
Hans Bolte
By Hans Bolte (3 months ago)

The pixel peeper speaks again. Let's see your photo's carab, oh wait your gallery is empty!

5 upvotes
brycesteiner
By brycesteiner (3 months ago)

Carabas has been named the self-proclaimed official Decider of Science and Art.
Of which, he knows neither.
We must all bow down.

7 upvotes
carabas
By carabas (3 months ago)

You people fill me with contempt and disgust.

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brick33308
By brick33308 (3 months ago)

we see this kind of criticism of excellent photography time and time again on DPR, almost always by people who post few or no images of their own. These are also the self-proclaimed experts on post process who universally despite Photoshop and instead say that Lightroom is a much better program. The "experts" who say that the post process distorts reality fail to grasp that digital cameras by their very nature also distort reality. Whatever. Bottom line is these images are truly remarkable.

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carabas
By carabas (3 months ago)

You don't get the point, there are numerous questions here :

Is it photography still (due to heavy PP) ? My answer would be yes.

Is it good photography ? My answer would be yes, with reservations.

Is it good craftsmanship ? Hell yeah...

Is it tasteful ? To me the answer would be hell no, but YMMV.

Is it appealing to the masses ? Obviously (and irrelevant).

Is it an original aesthetic or intellectual endeavour ? That's a resounding no.

Seeing these pictures, have they met an expectation or have they left you with more questions and ideas ? In my case it is clearly the former, but I'd like hearing otherwise.

Is it "Art" ? In layman's terms, yes, quite probably, which is the source of the current polemic; To those of us with a narrower understanding of "Art", no, these pictures are only good craftsmanship (mostly because they failed the last two questions).

Now let's stop chasing strawmen; Can you honestly tell me that you consider these pictures as Art, and why ?

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Lisa Holloway
By Lisa Holloway (3 months ago)

I'd love to see some of your images, carabas - oh grand master of all that is good art. lmao

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Scott Birch
By Scott Birch (3 months ago)

Carabas, you're assuming that total originality is an absolute requirement for every piece of art, yes?

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carabas
By carabas (3 months ago)

Scott, not at all, what made you think that (oh because that would make a nice counter-argument, sorry) ?

The originality of the endeavour doesn't mean at all that the end result has to be original by itself.

How Madonna and child pictures are there in the history of painting ? How many of them are actual art ? And why do some actually qualify as art despite being superficially similar to the countless others ?

Likewise, the endeavour doesn't need to be new in itself.

When Van Gogh explores colour, he doesn't reach the same answer and doesn't use the same approach as Mondrian.

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Photographer Jonathan
By Photographer Jonathan (3 months ago)

very impressed with these shots, I don't really care if she made them better in post, they had to be great to begin with to have final shots like this, and anyone who wants to talk crap about these shots, doesn't have the talent of this Lady, her images make you think and feel, and I respect this women's talent as a photographer

7 upvotes
arie de saint
By arie de saint (3 months ago)

Everbody is talking about the 135 mm..al the pics are made with the 50 1.2.
And by the way...the are really nice!
(pics can be seen on flickr with exif)

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arie de saint
By arie de saint (3 months ago)

Sorry some pics are withe the 135:)

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Michael Ma
By Michael Ma (3 months ago)

People that are saying these are mostly the work of photoshop probably don't know how to use photoshop all that well. The reason is that they think Photoshop is responsible for the majority of the work in these photos. The time she spent in photoshop is probably fractions compared to the time she spent capturing it.

Photoshop can't make up for all the hard work that's being put into lighting in these photos. And it cannot fix bad compositions or the lack thereof. You might think it can, but try it. It takes more than telling your dog and child to go run around while mommy takes pictures while the sun is coming down, then hoping to create magic at home with photoshop.

This woman is master at composition, color, and lighting for her style of photography.

Judging from how balanced and sophisticated her compositions are, she probably is conceptualizing the photos first on paper. You don't often get that lucky with compositions out in the wild without planning.

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Birse Boy
By Birse Boy (3 months ago)

well said Michael, couldn't agree more.

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jrg
By jrg (3 months ago)

Nice pics. Warm and dreamy. Some of the backgrounds look almost as if they are backdrops.

I used to shoot animal portraits. The one with the profile of a cat had to be pasted in. Murphy's Law has a field day with cats vs. photographers.

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BG_CX3_DPREVIEW
By BG_CX3_DPREVIEW (3 months ago)

Well,

this is what you get after spending 4000 Usd on a full frame and pro lens.

135 mm, f2.8,full frame.

Look similar to Leica Noctilux 50/f0.95 on a M9.

Still,

i love them a lot.

I cannot believe heavy pp was used, maybe some vignetting, but the hardware she uses can generate these pics out of camera.

So indeed strange why she gets coverage at DPR, so many many other great ones on 500px?

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atone2
By atone2 (3 months ago)

Haha...no camera and lens can give results like that without post processing. I really like her photographs, but when having a closer look some of them are processed a little to much for my taste. Nevertheless these beautiful shots have inspired me both to use my SLR more often and putting some effort in PP.

BTW, it is a f 2 lens.

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Merde79
By Merde79 (3 months ago)

"I cannot believe heavy pp was used, maybe some vignetting, but the hardware she uses can generate these pics out of camera."

Here's a prefect example:
http://deser.pl/deser/51,111858,15288783.html?i=10

I wonder what kind of camera produces 3 focus planes... :-)

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Steve Balcombe
By Steve Balcombe (3 months ago)

@Merde79 - you're right, and to me that simply shows that there is no subterfuge here. That's an image created by someone with a fine creative eye, who is/was still learning her technical skills.

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duchamp
By duchamp (3 months ago)

On her flickr account one can find that she owns another premium glass: Canon 50mm f/1.2.

Premium equipment doesn't guarantee premium pictures, however, if you get awful pictures you know who is to blame. Nevertheless, using premium equipment is extremely pleasant even if one photographs his cat.

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Wilbur T
By Wilbur T (3 months ago)

If I had images like these to show to a mom I would be rich!

0 upvotes
Coliban
By Coliban (3 months ago)

This is the result of high photographic handcraft skills. Amazing photos. From concept to photo session to the work at the computer. No one of the photos are results of an occasional shooting, highly professional with an amazing photographic and aesthetic taste. This work is clearly beautiful, i don´t think that the story behind is quite true, but that doesn't matter. Astonishing photos, thank you.

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Karlov
By Karlov (3 months ago)

It sounds a bit strange a beginner starts taking photos with such a professional camera and even more professional lens. Last but not the least, using PS in such professional way is not an easy skill to acquire in little time. Beautiful images but all makes me to think it is a perfect sample of viral marketing operation.

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phips243
By phips243 (3 months ago)

Well...maybe you underestimate her educational background...

"Raised in a small town near Moscow, Elena studied in a common school, but her passion for music an art went along. The passion for art followed her through the Moscow Institute of Architecture where she practiced sketching and painting. After her graduation, she practiced design and architecture for several years. 2012 is the year Elena started photography, when she got her first DSLR."

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Karlov
By Karlov (3 months ago)

"2012 is the year Elena started photography". Do you really believe archtectural background is enough to get such results in only one year? And how many beginners do you know that invest 3500+$ to start taking photos?

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phips243
By phips243 (3 months ago)

"(...) where she practiced sketching and painting."
She didn't use the 5D and the 135 right from the start. But jeah, it's indeed rather steep...

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phips243
By phips243 (3 months ago)

"Yeah", I actually meant...lol

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Karlov
By Karlov (3 months ago)

https://translate.google.it/translate?hl=it&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.babyblog.ru%2Fuser%2Flenta%2Faleshurik

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (3 months ago)

@Karlov. Yes - it actually works that way. It is quite common that a skilled artist jumps over to another art and is successful. It is probably more common than someone being interested in photography becoming a skilled photographer.

There are lots of proofs for that in this forum site. Lots of "skilled" picture takers here. We know all about how cameras work and also how images should be taken. But our photo portofolios are quite boring.

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Karlov
By Karlov (3 months ago)

Roland, I agree with you.
Most portfolios are boring while Shulova one is stunning. Period.
But I get annoyed reading the same old story about beginner discovering his or her "photography Buddhahood" and starting taking photos like a skilled photographer from scratch in a few months.

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Henrikw
By Henrikw (3 months ago)

Beautiful images. How much do you think is down to great photoshop skills? ie, Is the warm glow of light real?

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DaveE1
By DaveE1 (3 months ago)

To get this effect, you would need to shoot good images to begin with. I am certain that she chooses the lighting conditions and angles very carefully to get most of the look and then enhances from there.

It sometimes only takes relatively small adjustments to saturation, colour balance, vignetting, blur masking, and so on, to make a good photo look great. Composition is clearly done live (improved with some cropping).

Pretty much what most photographers try to do, except she's very good at it. Good enough to make some people very jealous ;-)

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mervyn750
By mervyn750 (3 months ago)

Well, these are somewhat “twee” and nice but that’s often the end result of photographing children, dogs, ducklings etc. They remind me of some 70’s /80’s posters. I do like them though, and they took me back to a good place in my heart and mind, and good memories of my past and childhood. Maybe I am getting more sentimental as I get older.

The range of comments on technique and morality have been interesting as well.

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Steve Balcombe
By Steve Balcombe (3 months ago)

I was all set for a "what on earth is this doing on dpreview" sort of post - after all, there are thousands of very good photographers on Flickr, why single out this one? But actually they are exceptionally good, especially if as claimed she has less than two years experience.

How many of the detractors wouldn't be proud to have taken this shot, for example? http://www.flickr.com/photos/75571860@N06/8694487450/

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JohnEwing
By JohnEwing (3 months ago)

Excellent eye and processing technique but too sweet to be wholesome.

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RichyjV
By RichyjV (3 months ago)

Shouldn't need emotive language to sell it. More photoshop than photo, not my cup of tea but each to their own.

4 upvotes
bossa
By bossa (3 months ago)

Kiddies with animals have been an ol' fav' for generations. These pictures are, predominantly, set pieces that are designed to appeal to sentimental parental instincts... ..cute isn't necessarily good art. The genre of the work is reminiscent of kitsch paintings from the late 19th to early 20th century and, from my perspective, is very boring in every way.

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cluening
By cluening (3 months ago)

Dumbest comment ever. Art is always designed to appeal to certain emotions. L'art pour l'art is nothing but pretence.
Especially as this piece of art lies in a field that has widely been covered it has to compete with earlier works - and does quite excell at it.

17 upvotes
Lea5
By Lea5 (3 months ago)

I see it the other way around.

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Cane
By Cane (3 months ago)

Beats stupid bird pictures by old people that permeate every forum in this place.

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bossa
By bossa (3 months ago)

Seeing as I have a masters degree in fine art I don't need "cluening" to explain to me what art is.

1 upvote
sadsun73
By sadsun73 (3 months ago)

Almost never seen anything so beautiful, such a large amount of emotion in a photograph, it's amazing !

8 upvotes
aggressor
By aggressor (3 months ago)

Why do you think her ethnicity is relevant? Are you guys racists?

5 upvotes
gwales
By gwales (3 months ago)

I like the photos, but I suspect a lot has to do with the highly emotive subject matter and the central role of 'softness and light'. Nevertheless, the compositions are all very good, especially number 9, of the boy balancing, being watched by the cat on the fence. It shows a keen eye - taken by someone who knows how to capture a key moment in time.

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Zeisschen
By Zeisschen (3 months ago)

!highly emotive subject matter and the central role of 'softness and light'"

well, that's actually all that photgraphy is about. The gear really is secondary.

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gwales
By gwales (3 months ago)

Well said, Zeisschen. Not all photographers make these things as obvious as she does, is probably what I was trying to say. As some others have said, a little cruelly perhaps, the subject and style are guaranteed to succeed, regardless of the talent. This photographers clearly has plenty of talent, though.

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ConanFuji
By ConanFuji (3 months ago)

She's got a fast lens....

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Simelane
By Simelane (3 months ago)

Wow... these are amazing photographs.

I wish I could take photographs like that.

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Derek Dean
By Derek Dean (3 months ago)

Absolutely gorgeous images.

I would think most on this forum would be able to appreciate the technical skill involved, but more than that, the true essence of photography (for me) is being able to express and share the emotion that the photographer felt when taking the shot, and on that level these excel, giving us a loving look at a mother's view of her children roaming wild and free.

Beautiful use of light, selective focus, and those sumptuously soft colors.

6 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (3 months ago)

These really are very nice. Between these and the snowflake guy, it seems this part of the world is producing some very good photographers.

Interesting that photos like these can come from a "troubled" part of the world while over here in paradise, we see mostly pictures of suffering, or slickness or gimmicks like HO train sets and ultra-HDR.

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prains
By prains (3 months ago)

Lovely!

I just can't understand any of the negative remarks. These are wonderful photographs. The use of Photoshop, the gender of the photographer, the fact that these are children....hey, none of these are germane to the finished product: good looking and beautiful images.

I like them.

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zzzorki7
By zzzorki7 (3 months ago)

Problematic part of the world? Do not worry about us. We're fine. Think better about yourself.

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ekaton
By ekaton (3 months ago)

And the recipe is: pets, small children and lots of photoshop - and many will like all these real life shots. Not my cup of tea. Too obvious an exercise to push the "uuuhhhh oooohhhh how sweet grandmother buttons". By the way the world we are living in these days, at least in some parts of it, would probably react very differently if the very same pics were taken by a man.

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Zeisschen
By Zeisschen (3 months ago)

What exactly do you think would be different if the pictures were taken by an man? I couldn't care less when I'm looking at these pictures.
However I dislike the headline for the "russian mother".
It sounds a bit fishing for comments like "oh, a woman can handle a camera!" or "oh, in russia the know how to use cameras and use photoshop?".

7 upvotes
oldman55
By oldman55 (3 months ago)

Well, show us your great pictures using this simple recipe (or any of your pictures you are willing to share). Then we might be able to see if your comments are justified.

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bossa
By bossa (3 months ago)

A typical response oldman55. One doesn't need to be anything but an observer to understand and make a critique. By your statement people would have to submit their work for validation in order to make any kind of statement, not just a "negative". Why would anyone seek authorization from someone they are trying to enlighten? In order to win an argument you don't give your power away.

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ekaton
By ekaton (3 months ago)

Well spoken. The ones with positive comments are never "requested" to show their body of work to validate their competency in expressing critique. But I think what you are saying might be too logic for many :)

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pannumon
By pannumon (3 months ago)

What critique? I saw instructions how almost anyone could take similar shots if they wanted. That is not critique, that is demoting the value of the work. This kind of comment is only valuable, if it comes from a person who actually has done the same, and thus have some photos to show. Otherwise, to me, that person does not understand what photography is all about.

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oldman55
By oldman55 (3 months ago)

Well said, pannumon - I wanted to reply in similar way, but you did it first, and formulated it better.

In theory, you don't even need to be a photographer to do a photo critique; however for me the opinion (on photographic matters) of a person, who is a great photographer himself, carries much more weight. That's why when someone "trashes" other people photography, I would like to see that persons' pictures. If they are great, I am willing to take his comments seriously.

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Roland Karlsson
By Roland Karlsson (3 months ago)

Actually - most professional and well seen critique are not at all well known artists. It is more common than not that it is possible to give critique without being able to perform as well. Film or music connoisseurs do not necessary make good films and can play well.

But, of course, it is a plus if they are good at what they do.

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bossa
By bossa (3 months ago)

Juxtaposing a kid with a fluffy animal, and using thin DOF to create decorative backgrounds has nothing to do with serious art. The pictures exhibited here seem very staged, kids with fixed gazes staring into space, no joy, no fun, no expressive play, no emotion and no action.

People here are getting caught up in the cute subject matter, the thin DOF and the decorative bokeh. Never mind existential issues about childhood and the future.. etc

It helps to read a few art books if you would like to develop your sensibility. Hanging around forums isn't an art education.

The 1st dog shot has a dark 'halo' affect around the dog indicating excessive PP.. etc etc..

If these things don't matter to you or you cannot see them then so be it.

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Cane
By Cane (3 months ago)

Her cat picture blows all of yours away.

7 upvotes
Altruisto
By Altruisto (3 months ago)

subtlety at its utmost! :)

0 upvotes
salamander1
By salamander1 (3 months ago)

while some of these pictures are very nice, motherly and estrogenic - we, men, have a hard time deciphering female art and would rather shoot hurricanes and tornadoes in the wild - i personally would not even think of showing my children to the world as fashion models purposefully posing half naked with their pants sagging gangsta style. i think this is very exploitative in a number of ways, and it is simply not decent in my opinion. i would not take such a photo of a child. it's a bad taste indeed. you've got to draw the line somewhere. children are still part of their parent's physical territory and their pictures belong in the family too. respect them. portraits and pictures of kids with, say, dogs and geese are okay, kids as naked fashion models are not okay. my opinion.

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Cane
By Cane (3 months ago)

You are a weirdo.

25 upvotes
salamander1
By salamander1 (3 months ago)

:)

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gwales
By gwales (3 months ago)

I didn't even notice the (lack of decent) clothing. Maybe because I grew up as a nudist?

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salamander1
By salamander1 (3 months ago)

nudism is not the point. everyone in finland can go to the sauna at the same time, for example - men, women and children, the whole family., but your pictures don't end up posted on the internet. i only really have a problem with one of her pictures., the one with the little ducks. i think it is very exploitative the way it is staged and presented. make no mistake about it, these are not impromptu pictures, but carefully composed, directed and acted compositions. she knew very well what she was doing. child in sagging pants with ducks. she went too far. my opinion.

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Robert Garcia NYC
By Robert Garcia NYC (3 months ago)

She really knows what she is doing this has a great look and feel and she did with a 2008 camera, bravo. That goes to show you that it takes a little more than your usual presets to make your images shine.

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Altruisto
By Altruisto (3 months ago)

As if image quality depends on equipment? and what about a century of great captures?

1 upvote
RichRMA
By RichRMA (3 months ago)

And YOU can replicate these kinds of photos with the new Lomo 85mm Petzval lens, "As seen on Kickstarter!!"

1 upvote
Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (3 months ago)

Funny how when someone lacks the imagination and skill for work like this it's labelled as PS trickery....but the various filters, PS, etc that everyone else uses is 'ok'.

I remember in the film days a buddy of mine thought I was cheating if I used a polarizer filter lol. Here's the deal people..unless you are shooting jpgs and posting/printing from that...well almost nothing is SOOC anymore. Here's a thought...learn some PS work to make the most of your images.

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joseluismx
By joseluismx (3 months ago)

Even JPGs SOOC are processed with all the in-camera profiles that are available.

0 upvotes
Ian SS
By Ian SS (3 months ago)

nice images indeed!

1 upvote
acidic
By acidic (3 months ago)

Ducks and rabbits are delicious. I hope the kids get to enjoy them soon.

5 upvotes
WhoozOn1st
By WhoozOn1st (3 months ago)

Nothing inherently wrong with eating dog, for that matter; just get past the cultural bias.

5 upvotes
acidic
By acidic (3 months ago)

True, but a younger dog would undoubtedly be tastier than the one featured in the photos.

0 upvotes
cruzcat01
By cruzcat01 (3 months ago)

These pictures are absolutely amazing and evocative and bring tears of joy to my eyes. I dont care if they are "orchestrated" or "digital art" as claimed by some. They take me back to a special place in my childhood that I would often dream about. A place of solitude and isolation, far away from the humdrum of daily lives in a city teeming with millions of people.
My favorite poem since my childhood days has been Robert Frost's "Stopping by woods on a snowy evening" and whenever I read the poem I feel that I am a bystander invisibly looking into a scenery such as the ones depicted in some of your work. The difference being the horse replaced with the mastiff in your pictures.
I really appreciate you sharing these wonderful images.

12 upvotes
Maji
By Maji (3 months ago)

Beautiful evocative images. Perhaps not everyone's cup of tea but I surely love them. The stories told in the images make them so powerful.

3 upvotes
Arpad Lukacs
By Arpad Lukacs (3 months ago)

Can we just agree that these are very beautiful images, but are not photographs.

0 upvotes
Clint Dunn
By Clint Dunn (3 months ago)

Who cares.

5 upvotes
Cane
By Cane (3 months ago)

Can we agree nothing is?

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Zeisschen
By Zeisschen (3 months ago)

so she drawed them?

4 upvotes
Battersea
By Battersea (3 months ago)

What are they, if not photographs?

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new boyz
By new boyz (3 months ago)

This is amazing. Even if most of the works were done in Photoshop, that still a lot of great techniques. I also started photographing in 2012(photoshoping even earlier), but went nowhere near this level. Man, not even close.

2 upvotes
icuira
By icuira (3 months ago)

As I recall Ansel Adams reveled in manipulating his photos.

6 upvotes
RichRMA
By RichRMA (3 months ago)

As I recall, the two things Adams strove for were sharpness and detail and using the darkroom to make the images more like they appeared to the eye than the camera could readily record them. This is done all the time primarily because cameras cannot replicate the dynamic range of human vision. He really wasn't manipulating photos the way they are being done today.

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cs hauser
By cs hauser (3 months ago)

I'm still waiting for someone to suggest that shallow depth of field is a "crutch" for the talentless photographer.

I've heard that claim made on these here forums a million times already.

4 upvotes
KevinG
By KevinG (3 months ago)

bite me!

5 upvotes
Oleg Vinokurov
By Oleg Vinokurov (3 months ago)

Too shallow dof, there is a difference. Quite many just shoot wide open all the time without thinking of appropriate dof for the scene first.
p.s.
here of course it's really nice balance

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senn_b
By senn_b (3 months ago)

absolutely exquisite set .. congrats "mom" :)

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