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Fujifilm teases upcoming SLR-style X system camera

By dpreview staff on Jan 20, 2014 at 08:50 GMT

Fujifilm is teasing an upcoming SLR-style mirrorless body on its X system page. The camera sports top-plate shutter speed, exposure compensation and ISO dials, along with a prominent central viewfinder 'hump'. It will be formally announced on January 28th, and as usual we'll bring you full details then.  

 Fujifilm's teaser for its upcoming SLR-style X-system camera

Fujifilm isn't giving any more details right now, but the teaser gives a pretty clear view of the camera's top plate, on which we can see the following features:

  • Shutter speed dial with X-Pro1-like locking button
  • Exposure compensation dial covering +/-3 EV
  • ISO dial (also lockable), including 'A' position for quick access to Auto
  • Control levers below shutter speed and ISO dials (functions unknown, but drive and metering modes would make sense)  
  • Movie record button
  • 'Fn' button which activates built-in Wi-Fi
  • Power switch surrounding shutter button
  • Large viewfinder hump, perhaps implying extra-large EVF
  • PC sync socket on front 
  • Electronic front dial below shutter button 

SLR-style mirrorless cameras like the Olympus OM-D E-M5 and E-M1, and the Sony Alpha 7 and 7R have clearly captured photographers' imaginations recently (as indeed has Nikon's 'retro' Df SLR), so this looks like a logical move from Fujifilm. Assuming it features the X-E2's impressively-fast AF system, with on-chip phase detection via the X-Trans CMOS II sensor, we suspect it'll be a particularly good vehicle for larger lenses such as the XF 55-200mm F3.5-4.8 R LM OIS telezoom. We've liked Fujifilm's recent cameras a lot, so are certainly looking forward to seeing what this one has to offer.

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Gene J. Paull
By Gene J. Paull (3 months ago)

Never fails! Last Friday, 1/17/14, I just ordered a Nikon D7100. 3 days later Fuji announces what looks like a very interesting camera. I'm sure the price, with lenses, however, is stratospheric.

2 upvotes
Abaregi
By Abaregi (3 months ago)

Don't open the package and return it.

5 upvotes
plasnu
By plasnu (3 months ago)

A trusted Japanese rumor site says it is about $1800.

0 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (3 months ago)

Is that with a kit lens?

0 upvotes
Henderson May
By Henderson May (3 months ago)

reminds me of contax..

2 upvotes
plasnu
By plasnu (3 months ago)

I wish the quality of the finish will also like Contax.

1 upvote
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (3 months ago)

And I wish Fuji lens optical quality could match the good Zeiss lenses for that Contax.

1 upvote
StevenE
By StevenE (3 months ago)

How much are you prepared to pay?

0 upvotes
Superka
By Superka (3 months ago)

Bravo, Fuji! Digital TX (Xpan)- next! Please! Please!
And film scanner! PLEASE!

3 upvotes
Cane
By Cane (3 months ago)

Anyone think it can actually track a moving object with AF yet?

2 upvotes
InTheMist
By InTheMist (3 months ago)

That's the no. 1 question, isn't it?

2 upvotes
le_alain
By le_alain (3 months ago)

Fuji rumors:
. 8fps with AF tracking / (trusted source)

if it's real ... :)

0 upvotes
plasnu
By plasnu (3 months ago)

Let's see. I think it's not as good as Canon, but probably as good as Sony DSLR.

0 upvotes
DDWD10
By DDWD10 (3 months ago)

Also, support for UHS-II SD cards is rumored.

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Harry S
By Harry S (3 months ago)

Well, the X-E1 can if you'd care to attempt it, like I have extensively...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/harry_s/sets/72157634005095926/

It goes without saying that it's easier to lazily moan about it anonymously on the web, rather than get on with actually taking photos though.

1 upvote
le_alain
By le_alain (3 months ago)

NIKON !

Look on top plate and front dial !
that was you should have done !

I so wanted to love the df, but after a try, and a non better finder for manual focusing, decided to sell all my Nikon gears for years.

Bravo Fuji !

29 upvotes
plasnu
By plasnu (3 months ago)

+1
Only thing I concern is the crop rate for legacy lens. Other than that, this is the winner, so sure.

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nicolaiecostel
By nicolaiecostel (3 months ago)

A batch of focusing screens for the Df has recently been anounced. At least with the nikon you had tested and proven AF, a real viewfinder and access to a wealth of lenses, old and new.

But anyway, enjoy the new Fuji.

1 upvote
Gesture
By Gesture (3 months ago)

We're really going backward in camera design and ergonomics with these retro cameras. Just being made complicated in a different way, in fact duplication of controls.

1 upvote
gerard boulanger
By gerard boulanger (3 months ago)

Not backward to me. Direct access to ISO, shutter speed and aperture ring on lens are still the basics of photography. Why having to go to a menu or a function button, then turn a wheel to adjust ISO when a simple action could do it. Moreover, just a quick look and I could read my current settings. Backward?

Next Fuji with that hump is not for me. I like the flat top deck much better like my XP1. Give me a 2.5 M pixels EVF in the OVF/EVF viewfinder and that ISO dial, not a hump.

10 upvotes
UnitedNations
By UnitedNations (3 months ago)

having the three basic/fundamental dials on top(Exposure,Shutter,ISO) is not going backward in design.
Ergonomically speaking these three controls including the Aperture control dial should have never ever been embedded in the electronic menu in the first place.

13 upvotes
Steve Hock
By Steve Hock (3 months ago)

Let's just hope the IQ and lens availability is good. This may be a camera I actually WANT to buy. Never liked menus .. give me dials anytime. They're fast, positive and easily checked under pressure.

5 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (3 months ago)

Fuji is getting there. I agree with gerald. Why the hump? If Fuji can make a mirrorless body that has all the top plate controls like in the Canon G12 which has an APS-C size sensor, an 100% EVF like the Olympus OMD-EM1 and able to track and shoot moving subjects at 7 frames/second, it would be excellent.

Meanwhile, lets see what this baby can do?

2 upvotes
TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (3 months ago)

This camera isn't one of those that just "look" retro, it looks like it delivers the goods!

It's not so much retro as it is simply getting back to the essence of what is happening inside the camera.

ISO + Aperture + Shutter.

2 upvotes
Abaregi
By Abaregi (3 months ago)

"We're really going backward in camera design and ergonomics"

Are you trolling or did you not see the manual controls?

They mean you don't have to go in to menus or check LCD for basic controls like a lot of other "modern" digital cameras.
Just twist and done, don't have too look or fiddle anything.

2 upvotes
Tapper123
By Tapper123 (3 months ago)

Backwards? Real photographic controls are NOT backwards. They're fantastic. And there will still be dummy cameras for people who don't want to learn photography.

1 upvote
Woodlink
By Woodlink (3 months ago)

The shutter button doesn't look like it will accept a cable release…perhaps Fuji is planning some expanded use of wifi for this?

0 upvotes
57even
By 57even (3 months ago)

It takes any electronic release that uses the standard (Canon) socket.

1 upvote
justmeMN
By justmeMN (3 months ago)

Another mirrorless camera with DSLR Envy.

Since you can't beat them, try to look like them.

7 upvotes
Woodlink
By Woodlink (3 months ago)

Except that the anticipated EVF on this camera is supposedly really bigger and brighter.

2 upvotes
RichRMA
By RichRMA (3 months ago)

As far as mirrorless looking like DSLR's go, Sony did this, a while back.

1 upvote
Abaregi
By Abaregi (3 months ago)

What do you mean with DSLR Envy?
Did Fuji want to make it bigger, heavier, have a mirror and prism but didn't?
An article would be interesting to read.

Are there alot of modern APS-C DSLR Cameras that have manual controls?

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photo perzon
By photo perzon (3 months ago)

where is my credit card?

15 upvotes
Len_Gee
By Len_Gee (3 months ago)

What?
Yet another camera for your collection?
Will you pre-order?

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mydpname
By mydpname (3 months ago)

Dear Fuji,
For any future releases of your X-system, please. . .please. . .please add dual memory card slots. This is a true pro feature.

0 upvotes
UnitedNations
By UnitedNations (3 months ago)

For some reason this Fuji looks somewhat like a toy compared to the more serious looking Sony A7. It certainly looks better than the DF, but looks very feminine & a bit too cute to look like a mature machine.

and near 2000 for body only seems a bit expensive when this is not even a Full Frame. Sony A7 seems well priced when considering this...

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MarkByland
By MarkByland (3 months ago)

I think you mean the exact opposite: where "looks some what like a toy" = A7

Soon, you will be able to control your playstation, dial calls, upload to Facebook, film your kids birthday, change the channel on your TV, take photos, and browse the web, listen to reel-to-reel tape, load your cd changer, wash and dry your clothes ...

All with your SONY.

15 upvotes
Woodlink
By Woodlink (3 months ago)

how'd you come up with the 2K price. Not trolling, genuinely asking...

0 upvotes
RichRMA
By RichRMA (3 months ago)

To most people, it would be the opposite. The Sony's look weird, no texture to them, just smooth finish. I'd describe the Sony's as a metrosexual camera.

7 upvotes
gerard boulanger
By gerard boulanger (3 months ago)

"Toy", "serious look", "look better", "feminine", "too cute"
It's a camera, not a purse.

5 upvotes
Woodlink
By Woodlink (3 months ago)

Fuji lenses > Sony

7 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (3 months ago)

Woodlink:

On average: Zeiss lenses>Fuji.

Albeit less vignetting with the Fuji X system than with the Sony A7+Zeiss combo.

2 upvotes
S_Michaelsen
By S_Michaelsen (3 months ago)

I just returned my new A7 for "toyish" ergonomics. Bought the x-pro1 instead, have never regret it. So much better ergonomics with dedicated "analog" dials.

2 upvotes
Daniel Bliss
By Daniel Bliss (3 months ago)

And Fuji schools Nikon on ergonomics, rolling out the control layout and finger grip that the Nikon Df should have had. Will the sensor and the rest of the camera be worthy of this impressive design? Developing . . . . .

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konanon
By konanon (3 months ago)

We know how the sensor will perform. That goes without saying. If the camera itself performs like the e-m1 (autofocus, EVF, responsiveness, etc), this will be a winner. Ergonomically, the e-m1 is a strong contender. If Fuji can match what the e-m1 can do and add their sensor to that equation, look out!

That said, if the reports of $1800 are accurate, this may deter a large number of people. Only time will tell.

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DDWD10
By DDWD10 (3 months ago)

This is the camera I have been waiting for. As much as I love my X-Pro1, and especially the lenses for it, I've been held back by the AF, viewfinder and form factor for telephoto/sports use. I even toyed with the idea of getting a K5IIS and 200/2.8 for this purpose. This camera may allow me to stick to one system.

3 upvotes
Albino_BlacMan
By Albino_BlacMan (3 months ago)

If AF is SUBSTANTIALLY improved I think it will be a home run.

AF speed (and maybe lens selection and video) is the one place where m4/3 still has a huge advantage over Fuji. I'm trying to decide between the two and if Fuji catches up in the AF game they'll probably get my money.

3 upvotes
Tapper123
By Tapper123 (3 months ago)

The price needs to be no more than $1499 IMO.

0 upvotes
Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

I don't think people have been happy with the price of any new release really. Even the Sony fans balked at the RX-1 at $3000. And that's saying something!

0 upvotes
Rockaw
By Rockaw (3 months ago)

I see some angst about the viewfinder in the center. Don't forget, a lot of photographers are left-eyed. Using my left eye with a left-corner VF is never comfortable, so I'm happy to see the center mounted VF.

Personally, I find the dial layout to be very intuitive. In addition to the dedicated dials for SS, ISO, and EV, there's a front control wheel and a couple of unmarked buttons. Based on their other X designs, I'd expect a rear control wheel, too.

But other than a center VF hump, I find the comparisons to the E-M1 design to be generally out of place.

6 upvotes
Jogger
By Jogger (3 months ago)

The centre mounted EVF also allows the controls to be placed on both sides of the top, rather than all bunched on one side. Far better ergonomically, esp. since the camera is meant to be manually operated.

1 upvote
BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

The 1/4000th is already an con versus it's competitors.
I really hope the Flash sync is 1/320. The Sensor will probably be great as usual from Fujifilm. But since the rumours indicate an price off $1800
1/8000th shutter was not too much too ask here. especially with an base ISO of 200.

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Daniel Bliss
By Daniel Bliss (3 months ago)

1/4000th top and 200 ISO base . . . now, that would be shooting themselves in the foot. For bright sunlight, that puts us back to $200 1980s film bodies like the Pentax ME Super . . . . and only one stop ahead of the cloth-shuttered Minoltas of the era.

3 upvotes
Jogger
By Jogger (3 months ago)

If youre seriously worried about being in that situation, then you should be packing some ND filters anyways, because its just as likely that 1/8000 will not be enough as well.. esp. for f1.2 or f1.4 lenses. e.g. when im shooting road races in teh summer, i often put an ND filter on before leaving, esp. if i know it will be bright out and in a lot of cases, you dont want to shoot 1/8000 anyways.

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Gesture
By Gesture (3 months ago)

I can't believe where we have come. I think it is absurd to consider 1.4000th sec a limitation on a camera. Would 1/8000th solve everything? How about 1/16000th. I've been working with cameras for more than 50 years and can get by time with 1/1000th top shutter speed.

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BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

Look at it this way. The Panasonic GX7 which is much cheaper and has 1 of the best viewfinders and has 1/8000th shutter speed with an base ISO of 125.

The EM-1 has 1/8000th with base ISO of 100.
These camera's have smaller sensors. However these do perform extremely well. They eat everything crop canon has for breakfast for instance.

The 1/4000th shutter with base ISO200 is entry level spec. Something I personally do not expect in an $1800 Camera. It may not be an issue for everyone but it is a con. We don't know about anything else now. It may offset this con with blistering flash sync speed of an leaf shutter like the X100s. But we don't know that as of now

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

no doubt m43 are awesome for their fullfeatured cameras .. I love them and adopted the system since their first offerings .. However, what Fuji offering here with XTrans Apsc and one after the other amazing lenses .. I can easily forgive them for 1/4000 shutter speed. As other mentioned ND filter will compensate for it (partially)!

There are many other m43 features I would like to see Fuji bodies like IBIS, video, Touchscreen, proper Wifi, sielent shutter etc etc!! But I would say they are still great cameras for what they are offering at the moment!!

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BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

I think Fuji should just improve on what they are good at.
People don't buy Fuji or Olympus for video.

IBIS like Panasonic implemented on their GX7 would be a nice add on. For the rest i just hope they keep the focus on stills. And an better shutter would definitely help. Especially if it also boosts the flash sync speed.

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PatMann
By PatMann (3 months ago)

With a full-function F-mount adapter (they could call it the X-400 just to make clear their intent), Nikon could rebadge this as the D400 without actually having to develop or produce it. Perhaps the buffer and focus tracking won't be quite up to snuff, and the EVF one generation short of action photography, but we're getting close. And you would have access to all those great APS-C lenses from Fujifilm too, many of which Nikon seems to have forgotten in their DX lens lineup (which seems to have been focused entirely on 18-xx zooms lately): 35 f/1.4, 23 f/1.4, 16mm f/2, 14 f/2.8, 12 f/2.8 (Zeiss).

0 upvotes
QuarryCat
By QuarryCat (3 months ago)

With this look of Contax RTS - it could be a success!

it took Fuji two years to make a real camera and it will take perhaps one ore two more, to make a fast camera, like the OM-D E-M1.

Sony is looking very old and slow with its Alpha 7 Bodies.
Canon, Nikon and Pentax still don't want to make a real modern, fast camera.

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Jogger
By Jogger (3 months ago)

Interesting that Canon and Nikon are the only ones making money off their cameras.. do you know something that they dont? Sony sensors are in 85% of m43/APSc/FF cameras made, so they win either way.

Let us know when Oly breaks even from their m43 line-up.

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57even
By 57even (3 months ago)

Only part of Sony making money though. That and music.

Nothing lasts forever. Canon and Nikon are working on mirrorless AF for when the market switches. They only make money off the hoards of cheap SLRs they pile into white good stores.

In fact they lost a train load of money in the UK when the biggest store tanked. But when the market for mid-level cameras switches they will have no advantage over the competition since they will have to source everything from the same places.

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D200_4me
By D200_4me (3 months ago)

Sounds like many commentators here are opposed to anything mildly 'retro', even if the intent is to give the user a nice feeling/looking camera. Maybe manufacturers should be banned from building anything other than an ultra-modern, rounded featureless blob? I guess that would make everyone happy :-)

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

But featureless blobs are so "right now" as they say in the US. Or "groovy baby" in the UK. The most "right now" camera then must be the iphone 5s. Damn it all, we need to keep up if we're going to be ANY GOOD. ;-)

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Frank C.
By Frank C. (3 months ago)

obviously DX and not FX, correct?

1 upvote
SBoudreault
By SBoudreault (3 months ago)

Neither, it's a Fuji…

S.

11 upvotes
PatMann
By PatMann (3 months ago)

People criticize the SLR look as fake retro. Don't they realize that this is the future? They forget that having the finder closer to the middle allows you to operate the touchscreen with your nose, leaving your hands free for aperture, shutter and other controls. Very hard with finder at the corner.

28 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (3 months ago)

I've genuinely forgotten: Does the Sony A7 have a touch screen oriented toward nose operation?

0 upvotes
RFC1925
By RFC1925 (3 months ago)

I know you're joking but I still, I would imagine that every camera automatically disables the touch screen when the EVF is active.

0 upvotes
D 503
By D 503 (3 months ago)

They really need to get the focusing sorted for it to be a winner.

2 upvotes
Paul Guba
By Paul Guba (3 months ago)

Yeah!!!! I was hoping for another retro styled camera to wear as an accessory. I am guessing thats because the camera market is being gutted by smart phones so everyone is looking back to happier times. Can at least one manufacturer push the form and create something better. It makes me sad that there is so little innovation simply bigger sensors and retro design.

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TFD
By TFD (3 months ago)

I hope there is an optional, retro flashbulb flash using #5 bulbs.

2 upvotes
Neodp
By Neodp (3 months ago)

Very nice look.

Summary (crystal ball): It's forgets important photographic balances, or it cost far too much. Probably both. Why? Because this pattern is getting very old. Please, prove me wrong.

There's always film!

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reginalddwight
By reginalddwight (3 months ago)

$1800 for the body only? If true, Fujifilm pricing of the X-T1 would be higher than Sony's full-frame A7.

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Stu 5
By Stu 5 (3 months ago)

And you point is? If the build quality is above that of the A7 then it justifies the price. If the AF is faster then it justifies the price. Not everything is about the size of the sensor. Handling and usability are very important and that is where the A7 is weak.

2 upvotes
Jim in Hudson
By Jim in Hudson (3 months ago)

Stu 5 -- the only "thing" that justifies the price are a sufficient number of customers willing to pay that price. No one know the answer to that.

5 upvotes
Al Valentino
By Al Valentino (3 months ago)

Looks nice but i wish there was a way to screw on a soft shutter button like the other X cameras. I find that accessory is both stylish and useful.

3 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

So, are you testing X-T1 already? How is the AF tracking?

1 upvote
pellicle
By pellicle (3 months ago)

So, seems Panasonic had the formula RIT from the start. No "faux prism" comments now ...

2 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

no more teasing needed.

judging from the photo the camera cannot be anything good.

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maninthestreet
By maninthestreet (3 months ago)

Really? What can you see in the photo that leads you to this conclusion?

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

it got a design that we abandoned long time ago.
"retro" that some people call and love.

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carabas
By carabas (3 months ago)

And how is that supposed to affect its ability to take good pictures exactly ?

Even the design abortion that is the Nikon Df is a more than competent camera once you adapt to the weird design and ergonomic idiosyncrasies.

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babalu
By babalu (3 months ago)

"By yabokkie (8 min ago)

it got a design that we abandoned long time ago.
"retro" that some people call and love."
Right, that would explain why the df is still the cam with the most clicks here at DPR ...

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

one really has to know nothing about photography to love retro designs but some people just do anyway.

> how is that supposed to affect its ability to take good pictures exactly ?

it's clear that Fujifilm didn't design the camera for anyone who wants to take good photos.

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topstuff
By topstuff (3 months ago)

Dumbass. So you say on the one side that the camera "cannot be anything good" because it looks retro, then talk about how people who know nothing about photography love retro designs anyway.

So you are such an amazing photographer that you decide if a camera has good performance based on how it looks?

If it works as well as I hope it does, I do not care if it looks retro or not. No real photographer will care what it looks like if it takes great pictures.

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darngooddesign
By darngooddesign (3 months ago)

Yabokkie, I think you need to clarify how this design makes it a bad camera. It would be helpful to hear about your hands on testing experience with an unreleased camera. Would it be a significantly better camera if it were curvy instead of angular?

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babalu
By babalu (3 months ago)

"it's clear that Fujifilm didn't design the camera for anyone who wants to take good photos."
.
Right; to take REAL good photos you need to have a good camera, not be a good photographer.

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lol101
By lol101 (3 months ago)

Yabokkie is obviously commenting tongue in cheek here, how come nobody sees that?

What? He may be serious...? Nah... he's too good of a photographer to be influenced by mere looks or style...

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Revenant
By Revenant (3 months ago)

The most important things to know about photography pertains to composition, exposure and the behaviour of light. The design of the camera is a matter of taste and ergonomics, and have nothing to do with photographic knowledge.

1 upvote
SBoudreault
By SBoudreault (3 months ago)

yabokkie's a troll...

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

Yep. Ask him what he uses...Fisher-Price maybe? Check his gallery...go on...surprised?

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Keytsa
By Keytsa (3 months ago)

It says on fujirumors 1800usd body only or 1300 euro.

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Nikon2011
By Nikon2011 (3 months ago)

u sure they wont let US pay 1800 also (eu)?

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BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

like the 999 everywhere of the f1.2 lens:P

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alfredo_tomato
By alfredo_tomato (3 months ago)

I think they should make it look like the Contarex Cyclops, but instead of a light meter, it is the hybrid VF.

We know Fuji can make beautiful cameras, but can the embrace the ugly?

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PerL
By PerL (3 months ago)

What will break or make this is the response of the EVF. The one in XE-1 has far to much jello effect, haven't tried the XE-2 though.

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GabrielZ
By GabrielZ (3 months ago)

It's excellent apparently.

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yonsarh
By yonsarh (3 months ago)

EPSON RD-1 was the first retro style look camera back a decade ago. now time has come. FUJI, NIKON, OLY E-M10 will be all retro style look. I think canon, and pentax will be follow next. this will be our next camera for the next few years to come.

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Khanh
By Khanh (3 months ago)

I have the Epson R-D1 along with sony RX-1 (and a bunch of DSLR including the very first D30). Still love the R-D1 due to its design and top plate layout. The 1:1 VF is something I would pay major $$ for (the main reason I don't get Leica M240 to replace my R-D1 is due to the 1:1 VF of the Epson).

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Nerdlinger
By Nerdlinger (3 months ago)

Khanh,
You don't have to pay big money to get a true 1:1 VF. My Pentax K-30 has it, the new K-50, K-500, and the new top of the line APS-c K-3 has them. Pentax=superior IQ for less $$$$$$!!!!

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olakiril2
By olakiril2 (3 months ago)

R-D1 was the best digital camera that I have ever used.
The 1:1 VF with crop lines, was the most natural way of framing a picture. I don't zoom in my head, I put frames and that is what the R-D1 did.
I can't believe that nobody has done something like it since then.
The only problem was with wide lenses, but I guess a front adapter or a movable lens (like Fuji) would solve that.

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GabrielZ
By GabrielZ (3 months ago)

Being. Fuji X system fan, I'm very excited by this!

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GabrielZ
By GabrielZ (3 months ago)

Can't edit posts on the iPhone apparently, so for grammar's sake! The beginning of my post should've read "Being a..." not "Being."!

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Bangers and Mash
By Bangers and Mash (3 months ago)

Being from the old school, I love all this retro styling. Olympus got the old SLR ball rolling, then we hear from Nikon, Sony and now Fuji -- did I miss anyone? So who's next in line? Love to hear from Canon with a digital A-1 perhaps. Shame Minolta isn't around anymore. I started out in Photography with the old Minolta SRT-101. Boy would I have loved to see a digital version of that.

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groucher
By groucher (3 months ago)

Same here but I'm not too hopeful. A digital Nikon FM would be great but I doubt that Fuji will have learned from Nikon's mistakes with the Df for this camara.

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guytano
By guytano (3 months ago)

@ groucher:

They already learned from Nikon's mistakes: It has the shutter, aperture and program mode selectors sorted correctly. Oh, and it has (on most lenses) an aperture dial.

And even if it is expensive, it won't cost $3k USD.

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BorisAkunin
By BorisAkunin (3 months ago)

The general shape of the A7 is close enough to a classic SLR, a retro version styled like the Minolta XD/XD-7/XD-11 should be fairly easy to do. The shutter needs to be fixed though...

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

Not sure if they learned from Nikon's "mistake". The XT1 would have been on the drawing board long before the Df arrived.

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Tord S Eriksson
By Tord S Eriksson (3 months ago)

Looks very nice, and if I hadn't invested in cameras recently, it would be a camera to consider! I do like the organisation of the dials — I wish the D600/D610 has a similar setup!

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Expat Nomad
By Expat Nomad (3 months ago)

Based on the control dial, still 200 base ISO.

Oh, and looks like a decent built-in flash and a possible mic/headphone on top since the PC sync port is on the front.

Are we going to see two new weather sealed zooms to match, and will they be constant F4?

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (3 months ago)

Fujifilm has five lenses on its roadmap right now, including 16-55mm and 50-140mm F2.8 zooms. Here's the full story.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

> still 200 base ISO

good point the camera won't perform well in adequate light.

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BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

Since when does Fujifilm not perform well. The X-trans sensors perform very well in all conditions as long as the raws are processed by Raw engines that understand the X-trans files.

The only thing that bothers me is Iso 200 combined with 1/4000th shutter. That makes using ND filters outdoors in bright light a must. especially with the new 56mm F1.2.

That gives this camera the same weakness as the EM-5. It can still be very good. However the the competition from Olympus has stepped up since the EM-5 in this regard

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

shutter speed is an issue but I'm talking about image quality for base ISO puts an uplimit on the light that the sensor can work properly, or an uplimit on image quality no matter how well the subject is lit.

though ISO200 on APS-C is not as serious an issue as on 4/3".

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

Uplimit? What do you mean? My Fuji & Nikons work fine at iso 200 and so do my colleagues, whether in ambient light or flash or studio lights. None of us have heard this term "uplimit" before, or have had IQ issues with iso 200. Maybe it's just you.

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iAPX
By iAPX (3 months ago)

At least an ISO dial, for a serious camera (some Canon G had it) !!!

Since we use digital cameras, ISO is a parameter, as important as Aperture and Speed: it deserves it's own physical dial for easy and quick access!

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darngooddesign
By darngooddesign (3 months ago)

To be fair, the Q menu does give you quicker access to that setting, but I agree that a dedicated dial is good.

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Brilliantine Stick Inesct
By Brilliantine Stick Inesct (3 months ago)

Nikon needs a digital FM2... and the DF is not it. What it should be is a mirrorless full frame camera with a compact body, a Fuji like control layout, manual focus aids including split screen and backwards lens compatibility like the DF. As much as I like the Fuji X cameras, I don't want to re-invest in lenses. If Nikon keeps up their poor performance I may be tempted.

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iainlea
By iainlea (3 months ago)

Nikon are missing out on a lot of "useful" trends and this looks interesting. D700/D4 owner but when it came to puchasing a walkaround for scouting or small jobs i ended up going with the Fuji X100S last year. Only thing holding me back from a system switch is all the glass i have invested in but ebay could take care of that.

Love my X100S especially in tight locations and s/w enabled.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

those Nikon cameras were good ones before and rubbish now. I don't need digitized rubbish.

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Neodp
By Neodp (3 months ago)

Nikon has been dragging so long now, I may sell all my lenses and go mirror-less myself! Who ever gets mirror-less right, and with good primes, gets my cash.

I do not think anyone has mirror-less "right", yet. But it's close.

I have zero problem staying right where I am; better using the equipment I know well, until manufactures get a clue!

Meaning Nikon has been so very stupid for their reluctance to offer a larger sensor mirror-less system! Even then, the photographic/video innovation and balances must be there. Including the price!

F-mount lenses will need to be covered with an adapter. New lenses (system) are required. It's just how it goes.

ALL manufactures need to hit it and get it, with FULL FRAME sensors. If you don't know why, then you need to know.

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Neodp
By Neodp (3 months ago)

......Including:

No jello video, without compromising stills. Full control. (INNOVATE)
Note: Some Nikon DSLR's has been hacked to turn ON manual video control!
Phase detect and/or hybrid AF speed/sport tracking.
SMALLER body. Body stabilization. Legacy AF motor(in tiny body).
EVF benefits superior to OVF!

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ZedWay
By ZedWay (3 months ago)

E-M1, Watch out !

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completelyrandomstuff
By completelyrandomstuff (3 months ago)

Are you guys planning on hands-on preview in the near future?

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Hugo808
By Hugo808 (3 months ago)

I bet they've got one in the office right now, fiddling away with all those nice dials....

I was saving up for a XE-2 but the rate cameras come out these days you could buy one that has most of what you want and the next day one comes out you consider perfect.

I feel obliged to wait and have a look at this one now which might backfire for Fuji as the camera shop near me has a huge pile of XE-1's it will never sell already!

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tecnoworld
By tecnoworld (3 months ago)

Looks like the direct competitor for samsung nx30. Samsung has no competitor for x-e2, though.

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muserulezz
By muserulezz (3 months ago)

Really?? samsung? Not Olympus E-M5/E-M1 or Panasonic GX7/GH3? Those are real competitors. IQ, handling and lenses is what a camera makes a good camera and you come up with Samsung NX30? It's a nice camera the samsung, but not a real competitor for the Fuji. Samsung needs to grow more in the Professional world, and samsung can make and will make a more professional camera. But that is not this day! Oly, Pana, Sony is what's all about today's professional CSC.

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arbuz
By arbuz (3 months ago)

@museruless - you apparently don't know much about quality of Samsung lens. Check few tests e.g. photozone or DXO and then come back with comments. It's just wrong to keep talking without even trying to research the subject. It's also funny when you mention Sony when you talk about handling and lenses. Which lenses?

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Revenant
By Revenant (3 months ago)

Nothing wrong with Samsung's IQ, handling or lenses, but E-M5, E-M1, GH3 and A7/R are more in direct competition with the new Fuji, since they're all weather-sealed, whereas the NX30 is not. However, I suppose a weather-sealed body is forthcoming from Samsung, since they released a sealed lens, and that one will probably be a more direct competitor to the new Fuji.

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muserulezz
By muserulezz (3 months ago)

I know Samsung lenses are good for what they can. They have the blue line of Schneider Kreuznach wich is nice. But we're talking about camera. And Samsung doesn't have a camera like the other one's. Even if you compare the lenses, panasonic and Olympus have more choice in the higher grade lenses. And that's where Fuji comes along. Great High end lenses like Oly and pana. Samsung is just starting making high end lenses and maybe one day they can be a competitor, but not today.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (3 months ago)

muserulezz:

Samsung NX lenses don’t have much to do with Schneider–there may be one Schneider variation. Optron, a Korean optics company, is the lens maker for Samsung NX lenses.

The really good Samsung NX lenses, here the 85mm f/1.4, best the best Fuji X lenses for optical quality. Then there are plenty of simply very good Samsung NX lenses like the 30mm f/2.0.

In fact the only lens makers matching the optical quality of the best Samsung Optron lenses are Leica and Zeiss, not say Canon.

Then yes the average optical quality across for Fuji X lenses is higher than the average optical quality for Samsung NX lenses.

Right Samsung doesn’t build camera bodies that will last 10 years–I can imagine an obvious reason.

Where the Samsung NX system has consistently failed: The buffer capacity and the in camera jpeg engine.

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muserulezz
By muserulezz (3 months ago)

Samsung has a good quality lenses, but then again. Your Samsung 85mm lens against the Olympus 75mm f/1.8 is no match for the olympus:

http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Samsung-NX-85mm-F14-ED-SSA-versus-Olympus-MZUIKO-DIGITAL-ED-75mm-F18-on-Olympus-OM-D-E-M5___422_0_898_793

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Artistico
By Artistico (3 months ago)

Ah... an ISO dial. The one thing that every digital camera should have, but that you hardly ever see. That's the main reason I miss my Canon G10.

Looks like someone finally uses their senses when it comes to control layout rather than just repeating the mistakes others have made before.

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Paul JM
By Paul JM (3 months ago)

No problem, take my G10 at any time. Worthless pile of junk. Tiny sensor, miniature dark viewfinder. Whats to like ? Like putting porsche suspension on a VW

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completelyrandomstuff
By completelyrandomstuff (3 months ago)

Canon G series was quite alright in it's day. It gave me some good shots before I bought a dSLR.

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pwmoree
By pwmoree (3 months ago)

Sofar the NEX 7 has 3 dials for A, S and ISO. Which is why I love that camera.

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tesilab
By tesilab (3 months ago)

I wanted to love my NEX-7, particularly for the dials, but with fixed 1/3 stop increments for everything, the NEX-7 dials are way too slow, and cannot compete with a quick twist of an aperture ring or dedicated shutter dial.

Just give me EC dial plus a shutter/aperture/ISO dials with explicit settings and an 'A' setting on each dial--no mode dial.

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jtan163
By jtan163 (3 months ago)

Looks very nice.
Suspect Nikon could take a a lesson here - at least in terms of styling and controls.
And size.
It's amazing what you can do when you get rid of the flapping mirror.

I rather suspect that the Dƒ's will outperform this baby in low light, and action type shooting - but I hope I am proven wrong.

A DLSR style X-trans - as we say in Oz.... noice.....

I sooooooooo wish I had a spare $5K +or so at the moment.

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Jim in Hudson
By Jim in Hudson (3 months ago)

It doesn't do much for size to get rid of the flapping mirror without also designing an entirely new lens portfolio with shorter registration distance.

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dougster1979
By dougster1979 (3 months ago)

Curious why you need a "hump" viewfinder. How much time has been invested in getting rid of mirrors and prisms, making cameras smaller,the main benefit of mirrorless. I prefer the xe2,xpro 1, gx7 viewfinder. Each to their own....

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (3 months ago)

The 'hump' works well for adding a large EVF without expanding the body size in other directions. The SLR-style form factor can also provide better balance and handling, especially with longer lenses.

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Zappp
By Zappp (3 months ago)

Is it lack of self-esteem among progressive camera designers? Intervention by Fuji corporate brass or marketing, after "analysing success" of Olympus OM-D, Lumix G, Samsung NX and Sony A7?

Imagine Porsche put a radiator grill on the beetle or the iconic 911 to avoid a different look than the competition, i.e. Ford T, or a 19th century horse carriage.

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Revenant
By Revenant (3 months ago)

I think the horse carriage will make a comeback soon. It encourages a more deliberate and thoughtful driving style, "pure driving".

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Treeshade
By Treeshade (3 months ago)

If somehow you could make horse carriage fast, safe, and easy to use like modern cars, I am sure it would.

No horses were harmed in the above statement :)

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macky patalinghug
By macky patalinghug (3 months ago)

FF?
I know many will vehemently react to this question.
It's just a poor guess so please don't get angry.

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Martin Datzinger
By Martin Datzinger (3 months ago)

There are 12 current lenses on the Fuji XF Roadmap and 5 new ones until 2015. Not a single one of them is FF.

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HBowman
By HBowman (3 months ago)

It will not be FF.

It is the extra rugged version of the X-Pro1 aiming more "sport" and outdoor photography.

Less fragile and weather sealed.

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Revenant
By Revenant (3 months ago)

They have actually stated that they won't make a FF system camera anytime soon. A fixed lens compact might be coming, though...

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maljo@inreach.com
By maljo@inreach.com (3 months ago)

Would have to come out with a whole new set of lenses - don't see it happening and I would not be interested. Smaller, lighter and cheaper is what I like about mirrorless.

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LuckyEight
By LuckyEight (3 months ago)

Revenant. Where did you hear/read about the fixed lens compact? I would be interested to know more. I am waiting for a fixed lens compact with a big sensor (micro 4/3 or larger) basic zoom (for example 28-90) and with some macro ability for years. Canon G1X was close besides the terrible macro.

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Revenant
By Revenant (3 months ago)

It's just a rumor at this stage, I think, and I read it on Mirrorless Rumors a while ago. It will probably not have a zoom lens, though, but rather something similar to Sony RX1.

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Neodp
By Neodp (3 months ago)

@LuckyEight: That's actually very smart.

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BorisAkunin
By BorisAkunin (3 months ago)

The Fuji X.Mount is too small for an FF sensor...

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PowerG9atBlackForest
By PowerG9atBlackForest (3 months ago)

Coming on January 28th - and just because it fits so beautifully: Going on January 29th. Sorry, a joke.

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ebbo
By ebbo (3 months ago)

Looks just gorgeous, and if its as good as that top plate suggest, it'll be a winner!

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Greg Lovern
By Greg Lovern (3 months ago)

Looks very interesting and promising.

I don't understand why they still call their cameras "Fujifilm". That was a good name for their film, but not for cameras, and especially not for digital cameras.

Why not "Fujica", as they called their cameras when they were making film SLRs?

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completelyrandomstuff
By completelyrandomstuff (3 months ago)

I would go for Fujidig from digital, or fujisil, from silicon (jk).
The latter sounds a lot like an antifungal.

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Tord S Eriksson
By Tord S Eriksson (3 months ago)

In my world we talk about Fuji, no more, no less!

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quiquae
By quiquae (3 months ago)

The company name is Fujifilm. If they lose the "film" part, they'd get confused with a number of other, completely unrelated Japanese companies named Fuji, like Fuji Heavy Industries, Fuji Electric, Fuji TV, Fuji Marine & Fire, Fujisoft, etc.

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (3 months ago)

I agree to the camera looking pretty promising. :)

As for Fujifilm . . . perhaps that is retro now too! Just like the camera designs. :)

And they have a legitimate connection to the film days . . . as they actually made / sold film! So film simulation on their cameras is pretty cool?

Just a thought.
:)

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JohnEwing
By JohnEwing (3 months ago)

Looks very pretty except for the "prism" housing, which is rather ugly. But FFF & all that...

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