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Nikon D4s: CP+ Hands-on and interview

By Barney Britton on Feb 25, 2014 at 04:00 GMT
Hands-on with the Nikon D4s, with insights from its creators
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Hands-on with the Nikon D4s, with insights from its creators

Nikon has officially launched its new flagship DSLR, the D4s. Offering a number of improvements over its predecessor the D4, the D4s features greater ISO sensitivity in stills and video mode, a new 60p video capture option and some minor design changes.

At the CP+ show in Yokohama, Japan earlier this month, editor Barnaby Britton was able to sit down with the new camera and two of the men responsible for creating it. Click through for a hands-on tour of the D4s and insights from its creators. 

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Total comments: 54
babart
By babart (1 month ago)

Oh wow! I've been waiting with bated breath for this!

Snore.
Why anyone, even a pro, would spend $6000 on a camera body I haven't the slightest.

BAB

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bossa
By bossa (1 month ago)

Hmm.. they still can't get that ISO button in the right spot.

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RPac
By RPac (1 month ago)

The great thing with the D4 and D4s are the programming options you have. For instance, you can program the movie record button to be the ISO button, as well as the M-Fn button on the vertical grip.
In this way you can always change ISO easily in both horizontal and vertical positions without even needing to take the eye from the viewfinder!

http://rolandpache.com/blog/the-nikon-d4s-is-out-does-it-deliver-the-goods/

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Guerriero111
By Guerriero111 (1 month ago)

Bellissima
Mamma Nikon è difficile che sbagli.
Il tempo ci darà ragione

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armandino
By armandino (1 month ago)

sure it looks very good it is a D4s after all, I do not see the excitement in the look though as it is identical to the previous model.....

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Paul Farace
By Paul Farace (2 months ago)

I know this is like a non-driver criticizing the color of a Rolls Royce's hubcaps, but how many of you Nikon fans think the display screen on the back is a bit small? Beautiful camera though...

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MarkByland
By MarkByland (2 months ago)

It has the 3.2" LCD which is only made small in appearance by the overall size of the camera, itself. I have the D7100 and the 3.2" Vs the 3.0" is a major difference on the plus side. Nice in-camera review and details are not sacrificed when reviewing in the higher resolution mode.

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starman1969
By starman1969 (1 month ago)

Yes, it's an optical illusion. It does look, however, like there would have been enough space to squeeze in a bigger screen though. 3.5" ??

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macunsw
By macunsw (2 months ago)

from the time they produce the DF that using 16.2MP FX-format CMOS sensor, I know that the next D4s won't change the sensor type since Nikon overstock too much. how to sell them? hmm, update the battery, change the key from rubber to plactics, update the firmware for better movie, the most important, use gigabyte network adapter. Dude, you forget you are making cameras, not laptop computers.

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Hear2see
By Hear2see (2 months ago)

the photo of Shigeo Matsushima and Toshiaki Kurahashi above was taken with one of Fuji's new X-T1 cameras.
Maybe I'm imagining things but it looks like they didn't like that.

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stan0301
By stan0301 (2 months ago)

For someone doing sports or theater this is just what they need--for the rest of us 2 D800's would be my choice 16 vs 36 mp is a real difference--you can crop and not lose quality--see eyelashes (count them) on groups of 10 people
Stan

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (2 months ago)

Just out of curiosity, the battery says "Cell made in China, further processed in Japan". I understand wanting to get "Japan" in there but I wonder what sort of processing they do and why it's necessary.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (2 months ago)

Printing of the word "Japan".

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Jogger
By Jogger (2 months ago)

lmao.. same as the Motorola X being "assembled in america".. meaning, untrained/low skilled workers putting backplates and other cosmetic pieces on 99% pre-built phones.. american media were presenting this as "made in america"

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michael19843
By michael19843 (2 months ago)

China is presumed to make inferior products whereas Japan is presumed to make advanced products. It's a bit like cars Made in Germany or Made in Uganda? Forget the product and how it performs just use racist stereotypes to sell products.

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Cheezr
By Cheezr (2 months ago)

Pricing determined in Japan ;-)

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Miron09
By Miron09 (1 month ago)

this is standard procedure, to avoid loss of intellectual property in China. Many companies part-manufacture in China, then complete the work some place else

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peevee1
By peevee1 (2 months ago)

"Mr Matsushima explains further enhancements:

'Another improvement is wireless LAN which was 100 base T in the D4 and is now 1000 Base T."

That makes NO sense. 100baseT and 100baseT are WIRED Ethernet standards, not "wireless".

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (2 months ago)

Good point - almost certainly an error in translation, which I'll fix.

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fad
By fad (2 months ago)

As a night street photographer, I have pre-ordered it. Better AF responsiveness and slightly lower noise levels will mean more keepers.

Not too many other amateurs who have a D4 will probably find it as useful.

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jtan163
By jtan163 (2 months ago)

I suspect that the real improvement here is the Expeed 4 and it's ability to deliver 1080 60p video.

I think this is the first 35x24mm DSLR to do so - at least with factory firmware.

I might be reading a lot into it, but the D4S has been labelled as as "HD DSLR". whereas the D4 as a Multimedia D-SRL "http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/06/NikonD4launched".

Be interesting to see if the Expeed 4 or any other un publicised changes have improved the video.
Phillip Blloom was less than enthusiastic about the D4 for video, except when humounga ISO.

There certainly does't seem to be much else in the announcement.
Hmmm new button material. (yeah t's good, but unless your rebadging NEX's I hardly thing button material is a marketing material selling point, unless it is revilutionary material. Plastic ain't, IMO).

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Clueless Wanderer
By Clueless Wanderer (2 months ago)

The amount of time and money and cutting edge technology involved in this camera is mind boggling.

I have but one question:

Has Nikon solved the problem of the 'growing' rubber grips that plague all nikon's?

D200 and a lens had a whole new set and my D700 is on its third 'trim' with the scissors and carpet tape to hold the grip on and my 24-70mm focussing rubber grip is looking like a life saver on a cocktail stick.

..Sort it out Nikon, its beyond a joke.

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Lea5
By Lea5 (2 months ago)

I use the D4 and D800E and the D3 and D3X before. I never had any growing rubber grips.

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marcio_napoli
By marcio_napoli (2 months ago)

Lea5, you don't, but the rest of the planet do.

I've used a D1X, D200, D300s, D700, all of them are bald. It leaves an extremely uncomfortable, cheap feeling.

Where's Nikon super built quality? I guess anywhere else but the rubbers! It's a joke.

At the same time, used Canons I've seen, all their rubbers are there.

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AlexRuiz
By AlexRuiz (2 months ago)

marcio, you are incorrect. I have had Nikons and Canons, and the rubbery grip wore off at about the same pace. Check the bottom of your shoes...heaven's forbid there is whear and tear from daily use.

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marcio_napoli
By marcio_napoli (2 months ago)

I'm not sure, Alex. I visit camera stores a lot, and always take a look at used offerings.

I'm amazed at how used Nikons always seem to have rubbers coming off, while at the same time, Canons on display are always in 9+ condition.

I don't wanna argue, but I really don't agree on that.

Nikon's rubber do come off, and leave a very cheap feeling, to an otherwise sturdy camera.

My D700 had its rubbers replaced twice, and is already bald again. Just hate the cheapo feeling it has now.

A friend of mine just bought an ancient, heavily used Canon 30D, and it's in mint condition to this day.

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Kabe Luna
By Kabe Luna (2 months ago)

Amen on the rubbers! The thumb hump rubber on my Dƒ is already starting to slide. It's barely two months along. Damn shame!!

To be fair, Canon seems to have moved in the direction of Nikon's stickier, grippier rubber as I've seen countless 60D cameras shedding their grip rubber and the vertical grip for my 5DIII was beginning to cough up its rubber at the time I sold it.

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Clueless Wanderer
By Clueless Wanderer (2 months ago)

I've kicked off enough times about it to have actually got an answer from a nikon rep as to why it happens.

Apparently its not the adhesive rather the rubber. The rubber absorbs the salts from your sweaty hands, the results of which expand the rubber, leaving the adhesive unable to hold on.

I shoot ALOT at the coast, so to compound my sweaty hands issues, the rubbers are also absorbing the salt from the sea mist.

Whilst were on the subject of camera damage, a heads up about sunscreen; It strips the print off camera buttons.
It takes months and months of daily sunscreen, but eventually the buttons will be bald. If I'm out and in need of sunscreen and no where to wash it off, I only apply it with my left hand (im right handed) to minimize camera contact.

Have you seen an old sunscreen bottle? how the print is gone? That's what it will do to the camera's button icons.

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Robert Daniels
By Robert Daniels (2 months ago)

Ohh I know all to well about the growing rubber grips. I'm from Bermuda where the humidity ain't no joke. Growing rubber grip are a norm on my cameras!

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macunsw
By macunsw (2 months ago)

means if it "Booz", then its the Chinese's responsibility

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (2 months ago)

"The AF-on button is now easier to press, and the hand grip is better" just about sums it up.

Why did they bother with so many very minor improvements?

This is a very slightly better camera than a D4, but provides very little reason to upgrade from one. The probably should have waited two more years so they might have some more significant improvements to offer.

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Samuel Dilworth
By Samuel Dilworth (2 months ago)

I would be careful about using words like “better” and “improvement” regarding the design. The D4 was supposedly an improvement over the D3S, and now the D4S moves back in the D3S direction. Which is “better”? Do our hands change every year or two?

I believe most of these changes are change for the sake of it. Perhaps (perhaps) change is itself good sometimes. But a great design would remain unchanged for years and years – until new technology fundamentally changed our interaction with it.

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pellicle
By pellicle (2 months ago)

> "Why did they bother with so many very minor improvements?"
because the sheep fuss around over meaningless stuff not knowing whats better till they're told, meanwhile the goat is headed for the water hole because it knows where it is ... the sheep follow it

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MayaTlab0
By MayaTlab0 (2 months ago)

In terms of improving ergonomics, they could have indeed made more improvements, like replicating the front custom buttons for portrait orientation or taking a page out of their concurrent's book when it comes to button customisation. And a complete overall of their memory banks system.

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Yxa
By Yxa (2 months ago)

Let's see which of the functions the D800 will get of the D4s new
recalibrated AF algorithms, Group AF mode, RAW SIZE S and the "ability to customize the color of the LCD monitor to better match studio monitors or personal preference"

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MayaTlab0
By MayaTlab0 (2 months ago)

None of them. Nikon will release a D810 instead.

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Cheezr
By Cheezr (2 months ago)

In my many years I have never seen Nikon update functionality in FW. Did the D600 get the new white balance algorithms? But then again they are careening wildly downhill so you never know where they will bounce next.

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bossa
By bossa (1 month ago)

Even my K-5 can calibrate the LCD color. My K-5 can also remap dead pixels and vibrate the sensor to self clean to a degree which my D800E's couldn't do in a fit. I have both Pentax and Nikon systems and it's quite obvious to me that Pentax doesn't get the recognition it deserves out there in consumerland.

A few days ago I bought a used, but mint, Nikkor 24mm PC-E and I'm quite disappointed with it optically on the 36MP sensor. It'd probably be way good enough on a 16MP or 24MP FF though but I won't be spending 7k to find out.

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h2k
By h2k (2 months ago)

Interesting that you put the photo of the interviewees at the end. I would have expected it as the first picture, and even more so as you have two other news items today that deal with the very same camera.

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Joel Benford
By Joel Benford (2 months ago)

Looks like a modest refinement of a good tool.

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Darrell500
By Darrell500 (2 months ago)

Alright I'm stupid but keep going in circles trying to fine the review of the new Nikon, someone clue me in please?

Never mind I see it's about a paragraph below each photo, nothing gets by me LOL

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Cheezr
By Cheezr (2 months ago)

ok i officially give up! you got me Barney!
so where is the link to read the interview?
if i click interview it takes me to a list of interviews and if i click the d4s title it takes me back here, if i click any of the labels above the "you may also like" they just circle around but afaik there is no link to the interview.

If this is a test i surrender and maybe this is why there are only 5 comments, something broken???

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noirdesir
By noirdesir (2 months ago)

The interview is in the captions beneath each image (it took me a while to find that as well).

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PatMann
By PatMann (2 months ago)

Yes it is a test. Find the counterintuitive user interface. You did!

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Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (2 months ago)

Yep - as noirdesir points out, the interview insights are built into the running captions. Sorry if that was unclear.

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Cheezr
By Cheezr (2 months ago)

Then I would say, Images with commentary by Nikon as generally an interview has questions and answers... Sadly, on my laptop everything below the images was not on screen but now i get it.
thanks

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zakk9
By zakk9 (2 months ago)

It's most probably a great tool. A dinosaur but a great tool nonetheless :)

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Framer
By Framer (2 months ago)

It appears as though it has impact damage. Oh wait, sorry, I haven't sent it in for service yet...

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Fahd
By Fahd (2 months ago)

Nikons flagship offers full HD while most flagship smart phones now offer 4k.

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vFunct
By vFunct (2 months ago)

Why are there 4k smarphone video?

Isn't that a waste of battery?

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Alberto Tanikawa
By Alberto Tanikawa (2 months ago)

4K from a tiny sensor compared to 1080p from a much bigger sensor... Marketed to different crowds, different quality standards too. I would take 1080p with ProRes 4444 over 4K with h.264 and low bitrates.

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Joel Benford
By Joel Benford (2 months ago)

What use is 4k? To anybody?

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peevee1
By peevee1 (2 months ago)

"4K from a tiny sensor compared to 1080p from a much bigger sensor..."

Depends how much line skipping is employed on that bigger sensor. And it is employed.

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Zvonko
By Zvonko (2 months ago)

the future looks good

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