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Sony a6000 First Impressions Review posted

By dpreview staff on Feb 12, 2014 at 04:01 GMT
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The a6000 sits in the middle of Sony's range of mirrorless cameras, just above the a5000 and aging NEX-7. The feature that makes it stand out from the crowd (and not just among Sony cameras) is its Hybrid AF system, which has phase detect points across 92% of the frame. To learn what that means to photographers, and learn more about the a6000 in general, then have a look at our a6000 First Impressions Review.

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Galbertson
By Galbertson (3 hours ago)

John, realize this idea a little neanderthal, but on my 4X5 view camera have small bubble level , self stick strip. Always viewed from outside, no need to access. It something i automatically would add to A6000 if i purchased. Nice camera. Im also contemplating A7.

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (7 hours ago)

The reds on the NEX 6 and NEX 7 are much more accurate (its why you cant find any here really!)

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John Jennings
By John Jennings (8 hours ago)

I just read there is no level gauge on the A6000. I am reconsidering my upgrade, which is a bummer. I have it on the NEX5-T! Why are we going backwards? Very close to a deal killer for me, I am so disappointed. Any other ideas out there, folks?

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justmeMN
By justmeMN (9 hours ago)

With their mediocre-at-best 16-50mm lens, Sony decided that (small) size was more important than quality - a shame.

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quezra
By quezra (9 hours ago)

Even the "best" kit lenses aren't great, only relatively good *for a kit lens*. If quality is that important you should be using primes, and Sony's are excellent.

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rodderslw
By rodderslw (8 hours ago)

I like the 16-50mm. It's a good compomise between size, versatility IQ and price. Great walk around combo. This is an interchangable lens camera system. You want faster and better IQ you can buy the SEL 35mm F1.8 OSS which is a great compact lens or go get a $50 Minolta 50mm F1.7 with adapter...great fun.

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Mk82
By Mk82 (4 hours ago)

"Even the "best" kit lenses aren't great, only relatively good *for a kit lens*."

Dare to say that from Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro?

After all, it is a kit lens.

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dpr4bb
By dpr4bb (9 hours ago)

Looking at the sample photos and comparing them to those from the Nikon D3300, I think the complaints about the 16-50mm lens are justified. I can understand that some may justifiably consider it good enough, but when you compare, it doesn't measure up. This is a seriously good camera being held back by a below-par kit lens.

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pacnwhobbyist
By pacnwhobbyist (10 hours ago)

It is crying out for a good lens to be put in front of it. You can just see the potential there for greatness but that 16-50 kit, like the reviewer pointed out, isn't doing this camera justice.

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mosc
By mosc (11 hours ago)

Mr. Butler, please do more content like this in your future reviews, very valuable.

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57even
By 57even (12 hours ago)

I have always marvelled at Sony's ability to build a great camera while taking all the fun out of using it. Ironic considering the near perfection of some of the top end Alpha SLRs, designed and built by the remnants of the old Minolta team.

Perhaps their DNA is finally infiltrating Sony. It's been at least a decade now...

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Reinhard136
By Reinhard136 (13 hours ago)

I have one, fair review. You don't really need the remaining parts of the review, the test photos will be pretty much like the Nikon 24's or Pentax K3 or Nex 7, and the rest of the details are subjective or you can guestimate. I bought the Nex 6, because on paper it was close to the best thing at the time, it died traumatically but for some reason I did not miss it. I don't think it went to silicon heaven, as it had no spirit. I appreciated again how good the old Pentax K20 was, you just enjoy pushing the button . Got the A6000 on the same basis, on paper remarkable and pretty well the best sub full frame out there, a little more soul, but still a bit more like taking a photo with a camera phone than the clunky old, feels good in the hand Pentax. Lens availability and no body stablilisation a little annoying, but blue sky will be combining the system with the sony full frames when they become a bit more viable.

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tecnoworld
By tecnoworld (13 hours ago)

Almost perfect camera. Add a touchscreen and the perfection is there.

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pixelatorcw
By pixelatorcw (9 hours ago)

Please also add IBIS...

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rodderslw
By rodderslw (16 hours ago)

Thanks for your review so far. I think most cameras at this point point will deliver good photos so more and more it is the handling and usability thats important. I found the NEX6 a good step up from the NEXc3 so reading your comments about the A6000 is very encouraging.

The NEX/Alpha cameras have matured into good tools instead of just tech. Still will take some time for people to see a 'SONY' camera as a real camera. BTW I handled the A6000 and Oly EM10 together and felt the Sony was more comfortable. The EM10 felt too small and my hand was always touching some buttons. Both seem like nice cameras but I will buy the sony because I have some E mount primes.

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Dave Oddie
By Dave Oddie (18 hours ago)

"I found myself wondering whether the truism about 'the best camera is the one you have with you' shouldn't really be something like: 'the best camera is the one you enjoy shooting with enough to have with you.' "

The above from the article is very true in my experience. Get the ergonomics right and a camera will get used. Get them wrong and it can actually stop you taking photos as the urge to pick the camera up is somehow muted subconsciously in my experience.

Years ago in the days of film I bought one SLR which was supposed to be the "best" when in the shop another felt better in the hand. Always regretted it.

These days I shoot with a Sony A77 and ergonomically it's the best camera I have ever had. I enjoy taking photos with it so I can see absolutely where the reviewer is coming from here.

It may be his personal view regarding the a6000 but having read it I doubt many would find themselves in disagreement over most points if they actually used the camera.

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quezra
By quezra (15 hours ago)

It is true but to a point. When I had both the FZ200 and the NEX-5N, the FZ200 blew away the ergonomics of the 5N. But the IQ of the 5N blew away that of the FZ200. I almost always picked the 5N to go out.

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Dave Oddie
By Dave Oddie (12 hours ago)

I am not sure you make a valid point here.

I could say my old film SLR has better ergonomics than your 5N but you would never consider using one.

Back in the days of film when I made my mistake of picking the wrong camera ergonomically the "sensors" were always identical because the film was the same for either camera. So the issue you highlight wasn't one back then.

I don't think it is now either in that once you decide on your modern "film" i.e. what size of sensor you want then if that was aps-c given most 16-24mp aps-c cameras deliver the goods image quality-wise ergonomics can be a deciding factor when a few years ago that was not true.

Most would never consider going for a small sensor camera if aps-c was the quality level you were after so the fact an ergonomically better camera of lower quality existed is rather a moot point.

What you need is a better aps-c camera from an ergonomic point of view. Then I guarantee you will stop using the 5N.

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quezra
By quezra (10 hours ago)

Actually I went for an A7 :)

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Galbertson
By Galbertson (7 hours ago)

Really interesting responses. As for me, the over tactile feel, arrangment of buttons is tremendously important, i a mostly blind.

I remember well at camera shop in front of Pananasonic G6 and GH3! Canon 70D, Fuji X-T1, and Sony A7.

The G6 had tiny, flush buttons i could not find(no live exposre preview), GH3 just felt goofy in shape, canon 70D felt inflated, each button different shape and feel...stupid, where did "round go? X-t1 worst buttons of all, need baby fingers. Then felt a7. Truly, even blind man loves. Now, how does a6000 feel, will let you know

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Diver2
By Diver2 (23 hours ago)

Cameralabs just posted review. Wow. AF is truly there! Exciting to hear his - and dpreviews - findings with other lenses than the kit lens. How about 55-210 (plus 1.7 extender)?

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RichRMA
By RichRMA (23 hours ago)

Is Sony so flush with scrap CD plastic that they are abandoning metal bodies except in the $2000 plus category?

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EthanP99
By EthanP99 (22 hours ago)

the body is $650....

WTF do you expect

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Greynerd
By Greynerd (16 hours ago)

Considering they are starting to drop the use of metal in aircraft I think having a plastic camera is not a real problem in this century.

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quezra
By quezra (15 hours ago)

Besides, the typical DPR user holds on to a camera for far less than the lifespan of the plastic material...

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marc petzold
By marc petzold (14 hours ago)

@RichRMA

The A6000 is made out of magnesium alloy - so what? perhaps you meant the A5000, which is made out of plastic.

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bzanchet
By bzanchet (1 day ago)

Wel, that is it. I love the DPreview web site, but I started having doubts after the images from my Sony RX100 were so much better than the samples posted here.
I recently bought the Canon G1XmkII even though I didnt like the images posted here, and again, my jpegs were wonderfully better than the ones taken by the reviewer.
I was following the shooting experience with the a6000 from the image-resource web site and was considering the camera. Today, I saw the images here and again, they were diferent from the other web site samples.
I dont know if it is the photographer, but here the pictures seems always out of focus, always mushy and grainy, except from the high end Canon and Nikon full frame cameras.
Also the other web site you can compare side by side pictures, multiple studio shots with a lot of diferente settings and cenarios, as with the DPreview you have only one studio scene.
Sorry guys, I am searching on others places from now for my upcoming cameras.

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Eugene232
By Eugene232 (1 day ago)

it is always own pictures are much better then others

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David Julian
By David Julian (1 day ago)

Really interested in your impressions of the Canon G1x mill.
Are you posting more about it here on DPR or elsewhere?

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Timbukto
By Timbukto (1 day ago)

Wow if you are talking about IR's Comparometer or whatever as the ability to compare any two pictures, that's simply retarded. I haven't seen frames used in webpages since my favorite browser was Netscape. DPReview's studio comparison is far better. And there is no substance to your 'my jpegs are better' claim as your gallery is empty.

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ConanFuji
By ConanFuji (23 hours ago)

They didn't learn how to use it right.

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rurikw
By rurikw (22 hours ago)

Timbukto: what's retarded about the IR comparometer?

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Timbukto
By Timbukto (22 hours ago)

There are a lot of web design issues with frames without enough characters to discuss, just google it if interested. I have no problem with the IR studio test images...the more the better I say. However as far as the actual *tool*, despite using flash, the DPReview one is just nicer to go through various settings such as ISO and lighting or resize. Also the Comparometer isn't retarded...just the comment that its implementation of 90's style frames offers up side by side comparison in a way that is better than Dpreview's much better engineered studio comparison widget is a retarded statement ;p. I like IR as well.

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rurikw
By rurikw (22 hours ago)

Thanks Timbukto. I was asking because I was looking at dpr's test images of panasonic g6 and they were way softer than those from about any other camera. I asked about it on the m43 forum and was recommended to check the IR comparometer and the difference vanished. So can I trust that IR gives the correct impression and something is wrong with dpr's test images from the g6? Sorry for going off topic as this has nothing to do with the Sony a6000. Just want to be sure I am not missing something important.

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Timbukto
By Timbukto (21 hours ago)

The g6 shots in dpreview studio is most assuredly shutter shock that goes away in low light mode where exposure time is longer. IR may have avoided the problematic shutter speeds. The A6000 has no such issue.

The fact that Dpreviews studio shot contains shutter shock tells me as a buyer more information, not less.

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rurikw
By rurikw (21 hours ago)

Thanks again, you are right, the softness occurs only in the low iso daylight scenes. Interestingly though the IR images show no similar softness at similar shutter speeds, maybe they used the electronic shutter.

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bzanchet
By bzanchet (15 hours ago)

Timbukto are you the architect from the universe? You know everything about everything wow! Just need to learn to stop crying :)

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bzanchet
By bzanchet (15 hours ago)

Mr. David Julian, I will post my impressions on the forum! Thank you for the reply!

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mas54
By mas54 (1 day ago)

"the viewfinder is really good,"

Truly? I see no indication whatsoever of a viewfinder. Where is it?

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ryan92084
By ryan92084 (1 day ago)

back top left?

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darngooddesign
By darngooddesign (10 hours ago)

You really can't see the viewfinder on the "Body & Design" page?

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JJLMD
By JJLMD (1 day ago)

When you say on screen level gauge is gone, is it gone only on LCD screen or is it gone from viewfinder too? I really like that feature on my NEX-6

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

It's entirely absent from the a6000, so far as I can tell.

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mosc
By mosc (11 hours ago)

That gauge makes me such a better photographer with my RX100. Man, I can't believe they would leave it off!

I'm 6'4", it's the only thing that stops me from having all my shots look like they're from above. I see that angle difference on the LCD and I lower the camera down.

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SRHEdD
By SRHEdD (1 day ago)

I actually prefer the "experience" reviews over the technical ones. I'm more interested in handling and use than splitting hairs between pixel depth and noise at ISO128,763. I also like to hear how it fits well (or not) into the system. I love that my OM-D E-M1 is there for me, but I can grab any accessory and throw it on my E-PL5, or E-P2, with good results. How a A6000 fits in the bag functionally with an A7 or A77 would be interesting. Flash would work, lenses not so good. I'd LOVE an A7 with an A6000 for snaps and easy stuff if the lenses were fully interchangeable, as well as the flashes, etc. The Oly/Panny camp has that down pretty well.

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Zeisschen
By Zeisschen (23 hours ago)

why can't you interchange lenses? Its the same mount, just different crop. Hotshoe is also the same so no problem there as well...

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binauralbeats
By binauralbeats (1 day ago)

Plastic body? I thought sony said metal when it was announced several months ago.

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KL Matt
By KL Matt (1 day ago)

11 "really"s and 4 "rather"s on a single page. I'm rather impressed. Really!

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quezra
By quezra (1 day ago)

I've always felt the "enjoyability" factor was a way to slip in a whole lot of subjective bias. And I still think this is the case after reading this, even though Richard seems to be leaning toward the positive. It's striking that this turn of opinion did not come into the A7 or A7R reviews, which have much more of these "features" Richard appears to be discovering for the first time in the A6000, including a much better dial setup. It's suspicious that the main thing happening between these cameras and the A6000 was in fact the A7S announcement and how seriously that camera was being taken by the film world... suddenly the mirrorless Alphas had to be taken seriously and it needed a shift in official line from DPR that justified it.

What is most interesting is this is the first review of a Sony camera where, on reading the negatives, I didn't immediately think WTF? so at least they are starting to avoid raising pointless quibbles.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

This is the personal perspective of the reviewer (me, in this case).

I didn't review the a7 or a7r, so didn't write about my experiences of using them.

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quezra
By quezra (1 day ago)

It's funny then that your name is listed as a co-author of the A7 review.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

I contributed some work towards the review but was not the primary reviewer, nor the writer of the shooting experience section (which is a personal perspective).

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quezra
By quezra (1 day ago)

If it's down to one reviewer, it comes off as idiosyncratic and any number of blogs do those just as well as you. Funny enough I always thought DPR was objective enough to put several heads together to push out a more objective review. It's sounding increasingly like you don't, with the main difference being your checklist of things to mention is longer than everyone else's.

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Timbukto
By Timbukto (23 hours ago)

Yes I much prefer a hive mind. A collective of hundreds of people from different backgrounds, many without any professional pedigree, but everyone can have their say. We can add a Like button and vote in a global democracy. The end results would be stunning.

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badi
By badi (20 hours ago)

while a bit ... too critique :) i must say that quezra has a point (and timbukto's reply, even if it made me smile, is a bit pointless).

Anyway, having a reasonable level of coherence between the reviews and shooting experiences of any camera line, as well as good comparisons with same range of cameras from other manufacturers seems very important. And expecting it from a "super pro" review site is legit.
And, supporting his point, this can only be achieved (I think) if the different reviewers do cooperate pretty tight on these parts.

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Revenant
By Revenant (18 hours ago)

But you can never achieve objectivity when it comes to things that are essentially subjective. There is no truly objective way to describe shooting experience, handling or ergonomics, so the only alternative to letting one person give his subjective opinion on those things, would be letting two or more people do the same. And there's no guarantee that any of them would share the opinion of any particular reader.
I don't expect a review to offer universal truths, I read it because I'm interested in the opinion of someone experienced and knowledgeable. By reading as many different reviews as possible, one gets a fuller picture of the product in question.

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quezra
By quezra (16 hours ago)

It's really a question of weighting. The way Richard describes it, "enjoyability" has almost equal weight with the technical aspects and that strikes me as the sort of standards you expect from blogs, not what DPR should be known for. Compound that with the fact that it is now revealed to be solely down to one individual photographer, and the explanation of results suddenly become very clear.

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Eleson
By Eleson (13 hours ago)

"The point being that, for me at least, the process of taking the photo is almost as important as the final result."

Isn't that the pure definition of any hobby?

I soo like these kind of writings, as it holds values not present in any spec sheets.

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wb2trf
By wb2trf (12 hours ago)

I think the merely personal has very little useful role in a site like this. There is simply no way to know if the personal preferences of any particular writer align with one's own. So the information is useless. On the other hand this site, which presumably has the resources to develop new forms of objective testing, seems not to do so in any creative directions. For example, since optical testing is the oldest form of camera evaluation and is comparatively easy, we have that redundantly here with DXOmark and many other sites. Camera testing could use reports developed with some large moving machinery that would objectively test AF and AF tracking. This technology quality causes significant % of actual lost photos whereas, today, IQ differences within a sensor size grouping are very slight. Instead we are going to get mere subjective reports about AF, which I consider almost completely unreliable, except in a gross categorization way.

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Underdog 3000
By Underdog 3000 (1 day ago)

I enjoyed the back handed compliments - as much as any non Sony fan but I digress, we all know your love of the XT-1 so what camera is out there that you have toyed with has bearable video? Enough video capability to suffice but still makes you happy to shoot stills?

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

Actually, I'm not as sold on the X-T1 as Andy is. I like it, I admire it, but the ISO dial and a couple of other changes make it feel like backwards steps have been taken since the X-E2.

But I too digress. That's a tricky question. I think if you want video as well as stills, this might be the best balance, at least until Olympus gets its act together on the video side of things.

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marc petzold
By marc petzold (1 day ago)

If Sony could create a new Standart Zoom, let's say 16-50/2.8 OSS PZ without adding more physical bulk, and for the same price, that'll be way nice for their advanced Alpha E-Mount Bodies. But one can dream...can't i? That SEL-1650PZ and neither the SEL-1855 would do the current APS-C Alphas any justice - in terms of IQ, no offence.

For instance, look at the Samsung NX 20-50mm, it's also a slow 3.5-5.6 Zoom from the usual type, but apart from this, the IQ is great for a small Zoom Lens, but therefor it doesn't have OSS integrated like the SEL-1650 Powerzoom.

Apart from this, i think the A7-Series 2.88 MP OLED EVF Viewfinder wasn't
inside the "budget" at the given price point to include it also into the A6000,
or because Sony wanted to keep that EVF currently for the A7-Series only.

The A6000 Body currently costs around ~640 EUR here in germany atm,
the Zeiss SEL-1670Z is almost 900 EUR right now. Imagine Sony would bundle these 2 guys together for ~1299 EUR into summer season...

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Thorgrem
By Thorgrem (18 hours ago)

Don't expect a new e-mount APS-C lens for a long, long time. Sony seems not interested in f/2.8 zooms for e-mount. And most Sony users are happy about that if I read the e-mount forums on DPR....

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marc petzold
By marc petzold (8 hours ago)

i'm happy with my E-Mount Sony's and MF legacy glas. ;)
I consider my 18-55/3.5-5.6 OSS Kit Lens worse then my old MF Zoom lenses from Minolta, Tokina & Zeiss.

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ryan92084
By ryan92084 (1 day ago)

It should be noted, since a decent deal is made about it, that once in Flexible spot mode it only takes 1 press to move the spot again. This is dependent on you not having Lock On AF or something similar permanently assigned to the center button.

My main reason for pointing this out is a member came to the forums assuming it always took two presses every time you wanted to move the spot.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

That's a good point. I'll amend the phrasing.

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quezra
By quezra (9 hours ago)

Unfortunately it no longer makes sense against your opening sentence in that paragraph: "Not all problems are so easy to overcome, sadly." uh... so is flexible spot a solution or is it not? It's confusing.

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liquid stereo
By liquid stereo (1 day ago)

Damned with faint praise:

"I wouldn't say the a6000 is suddenly my favorite camera - or even my favorite in its class - but it's the first E-mount camera I've used where my enjoyment of the camera is in proportion to my enjoyment of the results."

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Caerolle
By Caerolle (1 day ago)

"It doesn't suck nearly as bad as it used to!"

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Paks
By Paks (1 day ago)

With every "con" may come a "pro". What the review fails to state (though I may have missed it) is the complete coverage of the frame with the select-able points, a huge improvement over the NEX-6.

Though it takes two button presses to access, is speed really of the essence for select-able focus points (on average ) or is it frame coverage? Would love to hear DPR's perspective on this.

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Caerolle
By Caerolle (1 day ago)

Seriously, why doesn't it just have a touch screen for direct control of focus points? Isn't Sony like supposed to be the gee-whiz camera company?

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Paks
By Paks (1 day ago)

I see your point (no pun intended) and agree.

But, I don't think it's as simple as fulfilling the expectations of the masses. I expect that most users would complain that eye-start got in the way of the touchscreen or the opposite, if they had put one in that was not perfect. Is the sole purpose of the touchscreen the focus points? Seems like a waste if true....

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h2k
By h2k (1 day ago)

I thought this was a very interesting camera usability report with some good information. Thanks for this write-up!

It's sad that almost no-one in by now 660 comments acknowledges the interesting info, but just breaks into the usual fanboy militarism.

Yes, and now you can flame *me*.

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Paks
By Paks (1 day ago)

h2k, I agree. Does that count as a flame?

I read most of the comments below (recent ones) to be on your side of the fence, rather than the other.

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quezra
By quezra (1 day ago)

Check the date stamp... most of the comments come before the "usability report" and therefore lines up along fanboy lines in the absence of hard facts

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CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (1 day ago)

"The image quality isn't great - plenty of my images have soft edges, inconsistent corners and all the other defects that tend to come from kit zooms (collapsible or otherwise, pretty much regardless of brand)."

Thanks for being honest about it DPR.

.

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Artpt
By Artpt (1 day ago)

Interesting narrative on the shooting experience.

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Neal Hood
By Neal Hood (1 day ago)

I especially like the focus on portraying the camera/photographer interaction. Good short review.

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Impulses
By Impulses (1 day ago)

Wish they'd add a touchscreen! Would solve some of the UI issues. It's so nice for setting up an AF point or even shooting all in one tap...

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Cane
By Cane (1 day ago)

Seems like Sony has abandoned the touch screen.

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h2k
By h2k (1 day ago)

Funny, isn't it, to abandon the touchscreen. Even though it is such a useful thing.

No touchscreen -> no Sony for me.

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pew pew
By pew pew (1 day ago)

theres a lot of people that dislike the touchscreen because you keep accidentally touching it, but if it had a option to disable that would have been a plus.

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (17 hours ago)

@pew pew, all touch screen boasting mirrorless have an option to disable it. Even the Pana GM1, which is almost unusable without it.

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ZeevK
By ZeevK (14 hours ago)

Agree! Not providing a tough screen for A6000 or A7xx bodies is a stupid idea from Sony.

Instead of adding more cool functions utilizing touch screen (like multi-spot metering, zone system metering, etc') they treat it as a gymick. I am stuck with my NEX-5N...

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Galbertson
By Galbertson (7 hours ago)

But i notice when most cameras...well the ones passing through my fingertips, it seems they put less tech and tactile feel into buttons. I am a buttons guy, looking though hoodman viewer of cd, no use of evf. I need to have fingers on buttons without lifting head away from hoodman. I hope a6000 has good buttons.

Not against touch screen, just a waste of technology for my particular shooting style.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (1 day ago)

Good review. Maybe a different scoring system is needed. Gold award is a given, but just below that, an ergonomics score (admittedly, somewhat personal & subjective) and an image quality score. The two scores would not be combined or averaged.

Given that even the clunkiest digital cameras do more automatically than most film cameras ever did, and people still enjoyed photography and got great images, there are people who will trade convenience for quality and some who won't. For example, a Zeiss lens might get a low score for it's autofocus performance (none) but a high score for image quality. Same for a camera that needs to have the mirror locked up or one that is only good at low ISO speeds. These are obviously serious drawbacks but some users may be willing to live with them.

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SRHEdD
By SRHEdD (1 day ago)

The eye opening on the new camera looks to be substantially smaller than the NEX6. Can you speak to that? To some of us wearing glasses, that's a concern.

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Donald B
By Donald B (1 day ago)

I was in a shop yesterday playing with both and never picked up on that , in fact I couldn't tell the difference between the 2 as for evf res also.

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Siobhan A
By Siobhan A (1 day ago)

I preordered one but when I demoed it at a store I found it too uncomfortable to use - for me. I also found in the store it was hard to focus on people walking around- in sunlight it should be a different story. I think this is correct to say, "the camera's not bad".

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bluevellet
By bluevellet (1 day ago)

This shooting experience article suggests a silver award in the final review.

The final paragraph says it all. Never seen so many words used just to say "the camera's not bad".

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ryan92084
By ryan92084 (1 day ago)

it also says "it's the first E-mount camera I've used where my enjoyment of the camera is in proportion to my enjoyment of the results" and the nex 6/7 received 78/81

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

@ryan92084 - the scores don't factor-in how much the reviewer enjoyed the camera (which is why some NEX cameras got great scores but silver awards).

Also, I didn't review either of those cameras.

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marc petzold
By marc petzold (1 day ago)

Now if only the A3000 Body would have the new, upgraded Alpha Menu, like the A7-Series or the new A5000/A6000 Menu Style we see here instead of that horrible Icon-based "Toys'R'us" look...

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (1 day ago)

Wow Richard Butler actually enjoy using a Sony camera? did not see that comming

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

Nor me.

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Camley
By Camley (1 day ago)

DPreview - please...please don't keep writing:

"The company's latest processor, dubbed Bionz X for reasons that presumably made sense to someone"

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

@Camley - we haven't 'kept writing' it, in the sense that we're not going out of our way to repeat ourselves. I wrote it once in this preview and that text got re-used in the A7/7r preview that we needed to publish that same night. The A7/7r preview was then split into two separate reviews.

It shouldn't appear in so many places, though - I'll re-work it when I get a moment.

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Camley
By Camley (1 day ago)

Thanks Richard and I appreciate your response.

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marc petzold
By marc petzold (1 day ago)

The wide angle (24mm) onto the 16-50mm/3.5-5.6 PZ Lens was never good, check out the older lens review of that particular lens at photozone:
http://www.photozone.de/sony_nex/842-sony1650f3556oss
Photozone has given the SEL-1650 only 1.5 Stars (!) in terms of optical (lens) quality - that speaks for itself, without the in-body corrections on many NEX/Alphas, it's garbage.

The A6000 should be ideally matched with the SEL-1670Z, which is the
Zeiss 16-70mm/F4 Lens.

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BarnET
By BarnET (1 day ago)

Indeed the powerzoom does not do this camera any justice.
However pairing it with the 16-70mm put's it straight against the Fuji xt-1.

Which costs the same with the also excellent 18-55 f2.8-4 lens. I will take the Fuji at that price.

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ryan92084
By ryan92084 (1 day ago)

its a 14-50 lens designed to be corrected to 16-50. If you judge the uncorrected results of course its going to be disappointing. Corrected its a pretty cheap, average performing but nicely compact kit lens.

If you are against corrections get the 18-55

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

I'm using both lenses, at the moment.

I think the 16-50mm gains in convenience what it loses in IQ. It's a kit lens: it's a bit wonky in some respects, but that's not uncommon. It offers a good range and a lot of convenience, which is part of the battle won.

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (1 day ago)

The A6000 seems like a really nice camera.

I plan to get one when Hassleblad releases a $7,000 version, made with exotic wood and decorated with real gems.

I can hardly wait!

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Retzius
By Retzius (1 day ago)

Its also gonna need a fancy astronomy inspired name like the Hasselblad Eclipticon

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quezra
By quezra (1 day ago)

My vote is for Hasselblad Moonshine.

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (1 day ago)

The Hassleblad Pluto.....

(The Planet that Got Cut From the Solar System).

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gerard boulanger
By gerard boulanger (1 day ago)

Not for me, I want a shutter speed dial on top plate.

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naththo
By naththo (1 day ago)

Few of photos have had highlight/white part burnt out/blownout. Hrm I guess the exposure compensation might have caused the problem or either camera metering mode is not as good as Nex 7 I supposed?

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Timbukto
By Timbukto (1 day ago)

Confused how every single review outlet has declined to make substantial impressions on its AF...its like every one of them signed a NDA in regards to what they can say about its AF. This includes Tony Northrup and TheCameraStore, etc...*every* official reviewer seems to have not given detailed impressions on its AF...either every reviewer has exactly the same thought process, or there seems to be some NDA in place...that makes it so true test of AF comes after pre-orders perhaps?

The silence speaks louder than words perhaps....

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

There's no NDA in place. We only ever sign NDAs about announcement dates, never about not discussing or testing aspects of a camera.

We've just not had a chance to test it yet. As soon as the weather improves a bit here in Seattle, we plan to.

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Timbukto
By Timbukto (1 day ago)

Waiting for good weather in Seattle? Perhaps that is a major factor in review times and AF tests. ;p

AF tests are highly anticipated...the 11 FPS seeing all those dancing AF squares combined with Sony's claim for fastest AF, etc.

Camera will be widely available soon so it looks like the first real tests will be coming from owners.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (1 day ago)

Yes, but if you say it's a "pre-production" camera, it implies that if there are any flaws they need not be taken seriously since the actual production cameras will be different.

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Jogger
By Jogger (1 day ago)

There are many videos on youtube which show how it works, better than charts or a narrative.

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Richard Shih
By Richard Shih (1 day ago)

You'd be surprised how empty the office is when there's sunlight outside...

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

@AbrasiveReducer - we used a pre-production camera for the original preview. We now have a production model - all experiences and images (and subsequent AF testing) will be based on this.

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (1 day ago)

Richard... in the Pacific Northwest, sunshine is so rare they invented a special term for it.... "sun break."

Whenever there is a sun break, everyone seems to take ill and call in sick for work!

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

I must stress that the reason we haven't tested it yet has been the lack of time, not the weather. The reason I'm not testing it currently is that the weather's middling.

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K E Hoffman
By K E Hoffman (1 day ago)

I think this news about camera review releases being tied to good weather in Seattle could create a shockwave in the industry basically any camera that hits the shelves after September will be 7 months before a final review can be done!! :) I was going to say it is Sunny in in Lynnwood (15 Min north of DPR office) come shoot here.... but that just changed.. :) Its cloudy again.. :(.

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Timbukto
By Timbukto (1 day ago)

Richard has already clarified that it is not the weather...its the lack of time. Lack of time mostly due to being off work when the sun is out.

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Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (1 day ago)

@Timbuktoo - no one said we were off work - we're out testing and taking photos for galleries when the sun's out (though you'll probably find most of the images in the samples gallery were shot on Saturdays and Sundays).

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photog4u
By photog4u (1 day ago)

Level gauge, one press AF selection and eye sensor activation are all fixable in firmware...please get busy Sony!

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Cheng Bao
By Cheng Bao (1 day ago)

Level gauge has hardware requirement, it can't be add by firmware.
I don't know a6000's AF selection, but you can assign center button to af selection active on a7, so, just push center button, then you can use wheel to adjust focus points, quite neat.

For small size camera, there is no way to add standalone joystick like full-sized dslr, so you can't make it zero button press. However, it is bad to not include touch screen, which touch screen af, why I need a joystick?

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photog4u
By photog4u (1 day ago)

I've already confirmed that the a6000 has the required hardware (gyro) built in, they just chose not to activate the level in this model for some strange reason.

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Cheng Bao
By Cheng Bao (1 day ago)

Source about the gyro built-in?

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Bart Hickman
By Bart Hickman (1 day ago)

It's got to have some sort of gyro to know to auto-rotate photos.

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Cheng Bao
By Cheng Bao (1 day ago)

auto-rotating doesn't require gyro. cameraes from 2000s can auto rotate photo, none of them can do level gauge.

Doing auto rotate, you only need to sense > 45 degree rotation, and no tilt sensor required, to have level gauge, you need < 5 degree rotation precision and also ability to sense tilting.

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Retzius
By Retzius (1 day ago)

Richard,

I enjoyed your latest comments on the a6000 regarding the shooting experience. This is something I would like to see expanded upon in future reviews. I have likewise found many of the latest and greatest cameras have a poor user experience even though they have great sensors and great 'technology'.

Ironically, the cameras I enjoy 'using' the most are the Nikon D200 and the Pentax K50. They give you the feeling you truly are "in charge" of the image creating process. Pentax seems to excel at this, Nikon used to but lately their offerings are a mess in this department.

This is also one of the areas where I find many of the mirrorless camera still struggle. I still feel like the technology is 'getting in the way'. Admittedly, it is hard to get around that when you peer through an electronic viewfinder but I think they could do many simple things to improve the experience.

Cheers

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photog4u
By photog4u (1 day ago)

Wow...really impressive images coming from the kit lens. This thing will undoubtedly rock with FE lenses attached.

"the best camera is the one you enjoy shooting with enough to have with you." BRILLIANT!

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badi
By badi (19 hours ago)

True... but if you pay for FE lenses, there is little reason not to pay for an A7 ... and maybe an a6000 as a back-up body.

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JaimeA
By JaimeA (1 week ago)

Mr. Jeff Keller:
Please make sure to mention the omission of the electronic level in your report/review of this important camera.
The level is an essential tool. I still cannot understand why it has been removed.

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StanRogers
By StanRogers (1 day ago)

There is a rather large difference between "an essential tool" and "a convenience I have come to rely on". Architectural photography was (perhaps surprisingly) possible before cameras had electronic anything at all, let alone levels. If the camera's base is flat and perpendicular to the sensor, you've got what you need. If that isn't what you *want*, then there are other choices.

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Wally626
By Wally626 (1 day ago)

Now that the camera has the standard hot shoe you can buy one of these hot shoe bubble levels. I will grant I have used the electronic level a few times on my Sony but not enough I would not buy the camera over it.

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JaimeA
By JaimeA (1 week ago)

It is confirmed. The Sony a6000 does NOT have an electronic level on the LCD finder or the EVF. It is not mentioned in the Manual either, confirming the omission. Unbelievable. However, Sony has thought it important to keep the “Toy Camera” feature ….. Boggles the mind.
Especially in this camera, thought as an improved successor to the NEX-7, itself a real gem.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (1 day ago)

I have electronic levels in my Nikon and Canon and they're no more accurate than a bubble level in the hotshoe. They would be great if they were super accurate. So far, the iPhone level seems more precise.

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JaimeA
By JaimeA (1 week ago)

The Sony A6000 is being released for sale in a few days. Today I visited the Sony Store at Madison Avenue in New York. There was a display model, spanking new, an object of desire. Mysteriously, neither I nor the salesman were able to activate the electronic level (virtual horizon). This is an essential tool, as I do architectural and travel photography.
If you know how to activate it, please advise.
The camera otherwise feels perfect.

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (1 week ago)

That said , with the new 14-70mm Zeiss lens, the A6000 should be fabulous, but will then cost so much you may as well get an A7...

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3dreal
By 3dreal (1 week ago)

Friend of mine who has also old Contax/Yashica-Zeiss-lenses is overwhelmed. I have seen 180mm images. Most fabulous. I am thinking about getting the A6000.

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marc petzold
By marc petzold (3 days ago)

Add a Mitakon Lens Turbo (C/Y Mount for Contax Zeiss and Yashica Lenses) and you'll get that "Fullframe" look at a fraction
of the usual costs. I'm way happy with my Lens Turbo and old Contax & Yashica ML primes.

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