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Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark II adds faster lens and AF to big-sensor body

By dpreview staff on Feb 12, 2014 at 04:02 GMT
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Canon has announced the long-awaited follow-up to its PowerShot G1 X large-sensor compact: the G1 X Mark II. The G1 X II improves upon its predecessor in many ways. It's smaller, features a faster 24-120mm equivalent F2.0-3.9 lens (with closer focusing distances), a 31-point AF system, dual lens rings, a touchscreen LCD that can tilt upward by 180°, and Wi-Fi with NFC. One added trick is that the G1 X II can shoot at 3:2 or 4:3 with the same field-of-view. The catch? No more optical viewfinder (though a $299 XGA EVF is optional). In Europe the G1 X II will be sold with an accessory grip included; US customers can buy an optional accessory grip (GR-DC1A) from Canon for $29.99.

The G1 X Mark II will be available in April for $799.

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Press Release:

CANON U.S.A. INTRODUCES THE POWERSHOT G1 X MARK II DIGITAL CAMERA FEATURING ENHANCED OPTICS, WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY AND CREATIVE SHOOTING OPTIONS FOR PROFESSIONALS AND PHOTO ENTHUSIASTS

Canon’s Latest G-series Digital Camera Features a New Type of 1.5-Inch CMOS Sensor, 5x Zoom Lens, Wi-Fi and NFC Capabilities, Full HD and A Three-Inch Touch Tilt LCD Screen

MELVILLE, N.Y., February 11, 2014 – Building upon the success of the PowerShot G1 X digital camera, Canon U.S.A. Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, today unveiled its new flagship PowerShot G1 X Mark II, a digital camera designed to meet the evolving needs of today’s professional and advanced amateur photographers.

Boasting a sensor that is 4.5x larger than a 1/1.7” sensor found in professional level point-and-shoot cameras, the PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera can produce high-quality images with a wide dynamic range. It features a new type of 1.5-inch, 12.8 Megapixel High-Sensitivity CMOS sensor, made by Canon, allowing for optimum performance with an ISO range of 100-12800. This sensor, combined with the DIGIC 6 Image Processor, comprises the Canon HS SYSTEM resulting in faster autofocusing speeds over the PowerShot G1 X camera, allowing photographers to capture detailed, vivid images even in low-light conditions.

Featuring a newly-developed f/2.0 – f/3.9, 5x optical zoom lens (equivalent 24-120mm zoom range) with Dual Control Rings, this new camera provides customized zooming and focus-functionality similar to a DSLR camera. With this wide of an aperture, photographers have the ability to isolate their subjects by separating them from a background that is blurred.  This gives more control and creative possibilities when using a PowerShot camera. The Dual Control Rings include a Step Ring to adjust various customizable settings and a Continuous Ring to make focusing adjustments during manual focus, as well as additional customizable settings for manual shooting. This new lens features a nine-blade aperture to provide beautiful, blurred backgrounds even at full-zoom range.

“The new high-end PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera delivers incredible, professional-level shooting capabilities in a compact camera body making it the ideal second camera for DSLR shooters,” said Yuichi Ishizuka, executive vice president and general manager, Imaging Technologies & Communications Group, Canon U.S.A. “In addition, with the introduction of advanced wireless capabilities such as NFC and enhanced low-light shooting and autofocusing, the G1 X Mark II is a well-rounded professional-level camera that allows photographers to get creative.”

Improved Operation and Performance
The PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera is equipped with a new type of Canon-made, 1.5-inch CMOS sensor to help achieve optimal performance from low to high ISO speeds.  It has a default aspect ratio of 3:2 which is the same ratio the advanced user has come to expect when shooting with a DSLR camera.  If the photographer wants to switch to a 4:3 ratio, it can be done without impacting the field of view.

The new PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera uses 31 Auto Focus (AF) points, compared to the PowerShot G1 X camera that uses nine AF points, resulting in improved autofocus capabilities allowing the user to easily compose the image and focus on a specific subject in the frame. Utilizing the bright, capacitive touch, three-inch tilt LCD on the PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera helps provide flexibility in shooting by tilting 180 degrees up and 45 degrees down.

The PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera is also compatible with Canon’s new optional electronic viewfinder that mounts to the hot shoe. A new optional grip* will also be available for the PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera. These accessories are ideal for photographers looking for the feel of a DSLR camera with the portability of a point-and-shoot camera.

Seamless Connectivity
The PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera is equipped with built-in Wi-Fi® technology, so users can share still images and videos online quickly and easily using compatible mobile devices.1 Using the Mobile Device Connect button, users can connect to a smartphone, a tablet or a Wi-Fi enabled computer. Connection to the computer is easily done using Canon iMAGE GATEWAY2 through the cloud.  For even easier connectivity, the PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera introduces Near Field Communication (NFC)** – a first for Canon’s G-series cameras – so transferring photos to a compatible Android device can be simple and intuitive. This digital camera’s new remote shooting feature also allows the user to sync the G1 X Mark II with a smartphone or tablet and utilize the shutter, optical zoom and self-timer features from that device.

Extensive Shooting Modes
Ideal for portrait photography, the camera’s Background Defocus mode softens the background behind a subject to help users create professional-looking portraits. In addition, simply pressing the camera’s dedicated movie button allows photographers to capture 1080p Full HD video with ease. And, as commonly found in most DSLR cameras, the PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera has a full range of shooting and recording modes, including 14-bit RAW + JPEG, for outstanding creative control.

Unique to Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras, the PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera features Advanced Star Mode with four options to capture images of starry night skies with impeccable quality.  The “Star Portrait” and “Star Nightscape” modes help capture the radiance of stars while still allowing you to capture the subject. The “Star Trails” mode captures video trails of stars to turn trails into a luminous still image, while the “Star Time Lapse Movie” mode will shoot images of star movement and then combine the images to make a film that shows the movement of the stars, creating a truly stunning video.

Availability
The PowerShot G1 X Mark II camera will be available starting in April for a retail price of $799.99.

*Optional grip will only be available through the Canon Direct website. Visit www.shop.usa.canon.com
**Compatible with Android devices version 4.0 or later.

Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark II specifications

Price
MSRP$799.99
Body type
Body typeLarge sensor compact
Sensor
Max resolution4160 x 3120
Other resolutions4352 x 2904, 4352 x 2448, 3120 x 3120, 2496 x 3120, 3072 x 2304, 3072 x 2048, 3072 x 1728, 2304 x 2304, 1840 x 2304, 2048 x 1536, 2048 x 1368, 1920 x 1080, 1536 x 1536, 1232 x 1536
Image ratio w:h1:1, 5:4, 4:3, 3:2
Effective pixels13 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors15 megapixels
Sensor size1.5″ (18.7 x 14 mm)
Sensor size notes13.1 megapixel at 4:3 12.8 megapixel at 3:2
Sensor typeCMOS
ProcessorDigic 6
Color filter arrayPrimary color filter
Image
ISOAuto, 100-12800
White balance presets8
Custom white balanceYes (2 Custom settings)
Image stabilizationOptical
Uncompressed formatRAW
JPEG quality levelsSuperfine, fine
File format
  • JPEG (Exif v2.3)
  • RAW (14-bit Canon CR2)
Optics & Focus
Focal length (equiv.)24–120 mm
Optical zoom5×
Maximum apertureF2.0 - F3.9
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Selective single-point
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Touch
  • Face Detection
  • Live View
Autofocus assist lampYes
Digital zoomYes (4X)
Manual focusYes
Normal focus range5 cm (1.97)
Macro focus range5 cm (1.97)
Number of focus points31
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDTilting
Screen size3
Screen dots1,040,000
Touch screenYes (Capacitive)
Screen typesRGB PureColor II Touchscreen LCD
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeElectronic (optional)
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed60 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/4000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Auto
  • Hybrid Auto
  • Program
  • Shutter Priority
  • Aperture Priority
  • Manual
Scene modes
  • Portrait, Smart Shutter, Star, Handheld Night Scene, Underwater, Snow, Fireworks
Built-in flashYes
Flash range6.80 m
External flashYes
Flash modesAuto, On, Slow Synchro, Off
Flash X sync speed1/4000 sec
Drive modes
  • Single, auto drive, continuous, continuous AF, self-timer
Continuous drive5 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 secs, custom)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±3 (at 1/3 EV steps)
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (30p), 1280 x 720 (30p), 640 x 480 (30 fps)
FormatMPEG-4, H.264
Videography notesStar Time-Lapse: 1920 x 1080 (15 or 30 fps), Digest Movie: 1280 x 720 (30 fps), Minature Effect: 1280 x 720 or 640 x 480 (1.5 - 6 fps)
MicrophoneStereo
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesSD/SDHC/SDXC
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes
Microphone portNo
Headphone portNo
WirelessBuilt-In
Wireless noteswith NFC
Remote controlYes
Physical
Environmentally sealedNo
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionNB-12L lithium-ion battery and charger
Battery Life (CIPA)240
Weight (inc. batteries)553 g (1.22 lb / 19.51 oz)
Dimensions116 x 74 x 66 mm (4.57 x 2.91 x 2.6)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
GPSNone
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Comments

Total comments: 241
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Wye Photography
By Wye Photography (2 weeks ago)

Looking at the sample images on imaging-resource from both the G1X and G1X MKII at default jpg setting for BOTH cameras The G1X MKII images are actually more noisy than the MKI. The MKII is fractionally sharper and a little more vibrant.

I have the G1X MKI myself and won't be upgrading. The slightly faster 24-120mm lens is attractive tho, but not worth an upgrade.

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ecodigitography
By ecodigitography (2 weeks ago)

I've had the G1X MkI since it first released and absolutley love it! It's been a solid and reliable workhorse, shooting 1,000's of timelapse images, video and in a basic housing, underwater. Thrown around and travelled as many miles as I have and still going strong.

What sold me was the fully articulated screen and EV dial on the top plate - both features I use extensively. OK it's sometimes a little slow to focus and manual focus is tedious at times but I can work around that.

MkII with no fully articulated screen is completely useless for me.

I won't be upgrading.

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Charlieangel
By Charlieangel (2 months ago)

OK, here's a question abut comparing the GX1 Mk. II with the Sony RX10.
With a bigger sensor, the Canon should outperform the RX10 at least up to the limits of the GX1's lens zoom, 120mm. At what point zoom magnification would the Sony RX10 start to outperform the GX1, in terms of the amount of light available and resolution? I realize the different aperture ranges and different ## of megapixels complicates the issue. But what formula would one use, and what would be the results?

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

Assuming the two sensors have roughly equally light gathering capabilities (Canon has always been slightly worse in the sensor dept than Sony), the Sony MIGHT gets a lead at around even at 28mm equiv where the Canon hits f/2.8, noise-wise. All this assumes the same light gathering abilities, though.

From lenstip via "luckypenguin" at the photography-on-the.net forums:
.............G1X.......G1X Mark II
24mm....( - ).......(f/2)
28mm....(f/2.8)...(f/2.8)
35mm....(f/3.5)...(f/3.2)
50mm....(f/4.5)...(f/3.5)
85mm....(f/5.6)...(f/3.9)
100mm..(f/5.6)...( f/3.9)
112mm..(f/5.8)...(f/3.9)
120mm..( - ).......(f/3.9)

WRT resolution, assuming the RX10 has excellent lens, it might deliver superior pixel-level resolution at all focal lengths.

However, as DPR hasn't published a review of either cameras, it's still not known how all this is in practice. That is, it's the best to wait for formal reviews first.

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rccasgar
By rccasgar (1 month ago)

should't you consider the different crop factors before assuming RX10 will "catch" G1X mk2 at 28mm?

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (2 months ago)

See pic 1 of the G1X MK II and pic 5, different grips are shown on the body. Is one a tack on/add on grip?

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howardroark
By howardroark (2 months ago)

There are a few countries that will get the grip as standard equipment (Europe, Africa, one other?) but in the US the grip will be available only directly from Canon's website.

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rpm40
By rpm40 (2 months ago)

I just looked, and on Canon's USA website, the accessory grip is included with the camera "in a bundle" for $799.

I'm curious, does anyone know how they attach?

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mzillch
By mzillch (2 months ago)

24mm was a mistake. It will have discernible geometric distortion at this setting and 80% or more of PnS photos are taken at whatever the default value the camera powers up at. Sure, theoretically one could take the time and added effort to zoom in ever so slightly, to say 30mm or so [that precision is easy to accomplish consistently and nearly instantaneously, isn't it?] but for UFO shots [Unexpected Fleeting Opportunity] you'll be screwed having to do this every time.

There's no problem with having a 24mm setting, per se. The problem is that it is the default every time you turn the camera on. I lived with a 24 mm PnS for months and had to abandon it because it made UFO shots impossible.

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howardroark
By howardroark (2 months ago)

Shut up, you moron.

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rpm40
By rpm40 (2 months ago)

Don't mind howard, he's got something up his ass.

I don't think it was a mistake at all though, the majority of users want that wider angle available. For those who don't, most will probably be fine with the distortion. For the yet smaller group who aren't, you can always correct it later in post, and you'll still probably end up wider than 28mm equivalent.

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quiquae
By quiquae (2 months ago)

With PowerShot S120, you can map the clicky dial around the lens to precision zooming: one click each to 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm and 120mm. If you really want to zoom precisely quickly, you cna probably do the same on G1X2.

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woodyvx
By woodyvx (2 months ago)

I've ordered a Mk1 and will wait for the Mk3. The OVF is no problem if used to R/F film cameras, saves battery power, is necessary in bright sun and quick on the draw. 95% of my pics with G12 are using the OVF. Clip-on EVFs destroy compact form. Old Olympus CW8080 incorporated eye-level EVF in near-flat top plate, also had a tilting LCD, and that's 10 years ago. Lovely fast lens too - 28-140mm f2.4~3.5. Still use mine occasionally, there's nothing quite like it.

If situation requires precision framing you're surely better off with the Mk1's articulated LCD. I don't need super-fast glass at the wide end, nor super-macro as I have the proper gear for that. Difficult to see who's going overboard for a Mk2.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

Engadget's preview ( http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/13/canon-powershot-g1-x-mark-ii-hands-on/ ) also confirms the AF speed is very good:

"This G1 X refresh was comfortable to use and very responsive, from the speedy zoom toggle to the super-fast focusing. "

Nevertheless, as usual with Engadget's camera-specific articles (see for example their absolutely we-have-no-clue-what-we-are-writing-about articles on Nokia's imaging headships like the 808), the article is definitely written by someone not really into photography. He recommends the RX100 over the camera without even knowing how the IQ of the two cameras compare... lolz.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

It does not take rocket science to recommend any Sony mirorrless camera over this Canon Powershot G1 X 2nd Attempt, sorry.

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howardroark
By howardroark (2 months ago)

Frank, you're dumb.

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rpm40
By rpm40 (2 months ago)

Its way too broad of an assumption to say that any Sony mirrorless camera would be better. Better how? Better sensor quality? Probably. Better kit lens? No. The pros/cons list could go on and on.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"Frank, you're dumb."

Howardroark, no one should make an attempt at debating with Frank. I've done this a lot over the Video forum here so I'm pretty experienced in this. There's absolutely no point - as his current post also shows, he doesn't have a clue.

EDIT: this is also targeted at rpm40. Francis steadily sticks with his ideas / preferences and in no way would admit if he's wrong. There is just no point in debating with him.

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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Bwanapete
By Bwanapete (2 months ago)

I gave up a big Nikon D70 because my G12 is so much more portable. I almost always shoot in Manual mode. DP review: can you tell us what functions can be assigned to the 2 rings on the lens and the rear control dial. I like how my G12 can have the front dial for shutter speed, rear for aperature, plus a dedicated ISO dial and I wonder whether I can set the Mark II up the same way, by using the rear control dial plus the rings on the lens.

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nemark
By nemark (2 months ago)

Removing OVF instead of implementation of an quality EVF?
Definitely not my camera! No matter of other qualities.

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nemark
By nemark (2 months ago)

I still don`t understand why Canon uses 2496 x 3120 as a 5:4 maximum ratio image size, instead of 3900 x 3120 px, what uses most af a sensor?
They do it always when their camera has 5:4 as option of image size!
Unbelievable!

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

Please do read on multi-aspect sensors. That's why it's taller than it should be in 3:2.

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nemark
By nemark (2 months ago)

Still I don`t understand. This was the practice for all previous compact cameras. I can shoot full resolution of the sensor (3:4=4160x3120px for MkII) and later crop it to 3900x3120px in some editing software, but camera can`t do it for me as it does for other aspect ratios? I don`t understand it!

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Gao Gao
By Gao Gao (2 months ago)

The best Strobist's camera?

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kitchenbug
By kitchenbug (2 months ago)

I'm betting on it. From my brief test in Canon showroom with 580EX ii in Manual mode, you can sync this with flash at 1/4000 from F8 to F16. From F2 to F7.1, you can still sync at 1/3200 sec! The camera's 9 bladed leaf shutter seems to allow more light from flash to expose the sensor in similarly short shutter durations, compared to my Nikon P7700. In ETTL mode, you lose about 2EV due to pulsed light, but that's expected.

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ThePartaker
By ThePartaker (2 months ago)

The screen tilts up and down. It also has a 3 step neutral density filter built in.
There also seems to be provision for a filter attachment and teleconverter to increase the lens reach but one is not shown.
For details see: http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_Camera/PowerShot/powershot_g1x_mark_ii/?WT.ac=SS_G1XMarkii_UK#p-accessories5

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PeterBM
By PeterBM (2 months ago)

Thank you! Thank you also yabokkie! Why DPR don't precise it? Am I the only guy looking for precise use of articulated screen?
Now I think this camera is close to the camera I wish.

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PeterBM
By PeterBM (2 months ago)

@DPR: It would be interesting you precise in your specs if screen tilting is only one way, upward or downward, or both. I was interested by Sony RX100, but when at shop I saw that tilting was only upward, I gave up.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (2 months ago)

it looks to me can face downward,
an N- shaped design looking from side.
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/634/447/html/008.jpg.html

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Sean Nelson
By Sean Nelson (2 months ago)

STILL no 1080p60 video from Canon. Get with the program, guys!

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

No. Get another camera make and model instead that can handle 1080p60, wouldn't that be a tad easier for everyone, Sean?

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steve ohlhaber
By steve ohlhaber (2 months ago)

No, Francis, people actually do want 60fps AND a good still camera. I have two different cameras to pull this off. If they can just get cameras like this to shoot at 60fps then I don't have to have two different cameras. Wouldn't that be easier Francis?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

Yes, steve, and since obviously Canon cannot give both of these things to you in a camera, you would be best served to shop around ELSEWHERE if indeed your good still cameras also has to take video at 60 frames per second (I have no clue why it would have to do that, though).

Canon has ueber-expensive "cinema" cameras as well (ha-ha-ha-ha), and guess what, steve: they also max out at 30 frames per second in 1080p video mode. So, what makes you think Canon would be able to give you 1080p60 in a "cheap" travel-cam, like the Powershot G1 X? Obviously -- they cannot.

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rpm40
By rpm40 (2 months ago)

I don't know why they couldn't include the 60p. Is it a technical limitation? Heat issues with the sensor? Fear of stepping on their other models' toes?

Plenty of pocket compacts offer it, so I'm not sure why the G1X doesn't.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"I don't know why they couldn't include the 60p. Is it a technical limitation? Heat issues with the sensor? Fear of stepping on their other models' toes?"

... or, the video quality of Mk II is as bad as that of the G1X Mk I so there wouldn't be any point in using it as a serious video camera? (FYI: even cheap cameras like the Pana ZS series produce far better video than the Mk I WRT aliasing and moire. So do most large-sensor digital cameras. The Mk I shoots absolutely awful video.)

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PeterBM
By PeterBM (2 months ago)

What a pity!
Many years I am waiting such a camera: good all-around compact with a large sensor and with a swivelling screen . I said it when GX1 came that I will hope a good GX2 to come. It's here but swivelling screen disapears.
Canon prefers copy Sony with its RX100. Selfy is so important!

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parkmcgraw
By parkmcgraw (2 months ago)

1 of 3

This new camera from Canon, much like similar offerings from other manufactures, regardless of body style, if properly conceived of as a fieldable "35 mm" non laboratory environment like camera will be SUBJECT MATTER COMPOSABLE WITHOUT THE NEED OF TURNING ON ELECTRICAL POWER, or require one to look upon an illuminated screen displaying 3rd order at best image quality with false field illuminance.

On the whole, nearly every camera body being produced and designed today appearing to be fashioned for mentally lazy individuals not wishing to be technically proficient, less relegated to a preconceived of 2 dimensional range, void of much subject matter depth and discipline (a.k.a. subject matter fakes) unlike any time before in the history of photography.

What is being offered today little more than GARBAGE with near unethical planned obsolescence for the sole purpose of increasing short term corporate profit margins, and not long-term product usage.

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parkmcgraw
By parkmcgraw (2 months ago)

2 of 3

Little sold today of heirloom design or quality. The trend in the past two decades being to continually lower the bar on the full performance and tool range of the hardware offerings.

The supervising managers that have decided to remove optical viewfinders in place of EO only viewfinders, more than likely removing the simple yet highly functional, low maintenance, low component count transparent windshield from a car or motorcycle helmet.

Choosing in favor of a less visually true, less fault tolerate cranky solution that is difficult to physically service, composed of chemically less stable internal components prone to accelerated decomposition (highly dependent on homogeneity), critically dependent on consumable items (batteries) that functions via an (default condition) opaque screen, that in operation results in reduced visual fidelity, most likely laden with marginally valued added distracting functions.

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parkmcgraw
By parkmcgraw (2 months ago)

3 of 3

The camera body offerings today, somewhat analogous to how a fledgling and or pretentious cook, as appose to a skilful chef, creates a "what is that" sort of desert, not being knowable or skillful enough in the arts to produce a basic though very high quality cake or seasoned pie with ice cream.

In closing, please STOP removing basic system hardware functions and or options without first insuring that what is being selected to be the replacement item is superior on most all respects to the predecessor.

Do a job, big or small, do it right or not at all.

Park McGraw

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howardroark
By howardroark (2 months ago)

What an incoherent, rambling, and insane rant. You realize you can reply within your own comment to add all that extra text that you shouldn't have added anyway, right?
So what's your thesis? The materials are substandard? Why, because there is plastic involved? The lack of viewfinder makes anyone who uses it lazy? No, everything isn't made out of rought iron any more, grandpa, and optical viewfinders aren't the only way to get the job done. I'd wager the G1 X II will last a long, long time and despite being incredibly complex won't be obsolete in a hurry. And in modern electronics you have to turn the camera on to get the lens to extend anyway. So you don't turn the camera on until the second before you take a picture, and only after you've looked through a viewfinder for a while to get it all worked out? Sounds like you need an SLR...film, not digital.
Rumble grumble fumble THE WORLD IS CHANGING!!! BAH, HUMBUG!

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robmanueb
By robmanueb (2 months ago)

I really like my Nikon P7100, the more I use it the better it gets. Having an optical viewfinder is far superior to looking at the screen. My old Canon powershot A540 that ticked all the boxes but low light ability wasn't up to scratch after ISO 200, the P7100 does ISO400 and still looks good which is a generational improvement as far as I'm concerned, it has a longer zoom then the old Canon and goes wider. What blows me away is that I had to wait 7 years for those minor improvements and then the next model (P7200) dropped the optical viewfinder. Camera manufacturers are in deep trouble with the amount of overlap between devices that can take good images. M4/3 and most of the interchangeable lens cams are probably going to be history as soon as people realise they can get good quality without the bulk of changeable lenses. In 7 years we will probably have full frame, a smidgen of APS and cell phones. (and then I'll pick up a second hand SLR kit a la D90 styles for spare change).

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llamacide
By llamacide (2 months ago)

yawn------

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Repsak
By Repsak (2 months ago)

The G1 X Mark II is too small now for a built-in VF, and for only $300 more you can mount one on it.

But yet, on the same day, the Sony A6000 with a sensor 56% larger (367 sq. mm versus the Canon's 234 sq. mm) and a smaller body somehow has no problem fitting an EVF.

Sony Body Size: width X height is 8040 sq. mm; Canon G1 X MII is: 8,584 sq. mm
(Sony: 120 X 67 mm; Canon: 116 X 74 mm).

And the Canon's body is 33% thicker (66 mm versus 45 mm).

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

Compared to Sony, Canon is just now entering the year 2004.

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howardroark
By howardroark (2 months ago)

Oh, because the A6000 has a lens built-in? No? Or the tiny A6000 body has the AF mechanism for its lens included in the body? No?! Oh wait, you can buy a lens equivalent to the G1 XII's size, quality, macro focus, IS, and zoom right? NO?!!!! Yep, the A6000 is just like a totally better version of the G1 XII! Why bother, Canon?!

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"Compared to Sony, Canon is just now entering the year 2004."

Francis has lost all his connections to reality :)

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noflashplease
By noflashplease (2 months ago)

Canon has pretty much abandoned the MILC market after the EOS M debacle but they have the time and resources for this thing? Only $299 for an EVF on top of $799 for the camera itself. Really? Is is April 1?

Maybe the G1 X has been a hugely popular and profitable model, with legions of enthusiastic followers waiting for a sequel with an add-on EVF?

For the rest of us, this camera makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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M DeNero
By M DeNero (2 months ago)

But when the MILC makers come out with $300 EVFs they're inventive.

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T3
By T3 (2 months ago)

I don't think Canon has abandoned MILC at all. But I do think that (as typically with a lot of Canon products), the pricing needs to be adjusted downward a bit. I'm sure the market will eventually take care of that, as it always seems to do.

As for the Canon EVF, keep in mind that Sony's latest external EVF (Sony FDA-EVM1K) goes for $450, although they have an older model that now sells for about $230.

As for who this camera makes "sense" for, I see it as catering to the same buyer that would consider the Sony RX100 II, a $699 camera with an add-on EVF option. But with the GX1 MKII, you get a wider and longer zoom range, plus a larger sensor. So pricing seems about right.

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SantaFeBill
By SantaFeBill (2 months ago)

Since where I live the sunlight is usually bright enough that you need a VF (OVF or EVF) to shoot outdoors, U.S. $1100 for a compact (that's not so compact) isn't attractive to me. But of course YMMV.

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thx1138
By thx1138 (2 months ago)

It's pricing is on par if not cheaper than competitors with optional EVF's.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

For 1/2 to 1/3rd of this ridiculous G1 X price, you an get something from Panasonic, Sony, etc. with a larger sensor. Canon's 1.5-inch imager form factor is a dead duck.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"For 1/2 to 1/3rd of this ridiculous G1 X price, you an get something from Panasonic, Sony, etc. with a larger sensor. Canon's 1.5-inch imager form factor is a dead duck."

Good luck finding a comparable (weight / price / size / brightness / UWA support / range) lens for _any_ of the cameras on your list.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

Canon's 1.5-inch sensor form factor: dead duck. It is so odd, nobody else is even bothering to knock it off.

You can get superior APS-C sensor mirrorless cameras with comparable zoom lenses for a whole lot less dough from a bunch of manufacturers. As a mirrorless digital camera maker, Canon is dead last.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"You can get superior APS-C sensor mirrorless cameras with comparable zoom lenses for a whole lot less dough from a bunch of manufacturers. "

You really don't know what you're talking about. Yes, there are some somewhat comparable (assuming starting at 24mm and at least comparable f-values) zoom lenses. Weighing in at least twice as much, being far bigger and VERY expensive (see e.g. the Pana 12-35). And cheap / small(er) / ligher kit lens are much-much darker (slower) than the 2.0 - 3.9 lens and, in general, provide bad IQ (see for example the Oly 12-50 or the Sony 16-50).

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Biggiep
By Biggiep (2 months ago)

I supposed the G1 X must've sold well for Canon to find it more worthwhile to put in effort to make a successor to it as opposed to fix their EOS M line. This G1 X is the ultimate tweener camera, which means it's half-assed in multiple respects. Too large to fit into a pocket, not large enough to have a viewfinder. Too expensive to not have interchangeable lenses. It's also curious that Canon develops a totally different 1.5" sensor JUST for the G1 X line because as we all know, Canon has been nothing short of legendary when it comes to getting the most out of each sensor design (ahem 18mp APS-C).

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thx1138
By thx1138 (2 months ago)

Why on earth do you think this has anything to do with the EOS-M line. It doesn't and has no consequences for the true EOS M successor which is coming this year. Canon has not abandoned MILC and EOS M2 will see more lenses and perhaps two models.

Maybe you wear tight jeans, but the G1X II will easily fit into cargo shorts. Well I guess they prioritized fast lens over built-in EVF. It seems you would have been whining no matter what Canon released.

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T3
By T3 (2 months ago)

I think it's absolutely bizarre that people think that because they came out with a new G1X, it means they aren't putting effort into the EOS M. Canon is a big company, not a mom-and-pop shop. They can do more than one thing at a time!

This is just a camera that doesn't happen to cater to your needs, while catering to the needs of others. But since it doesn't cater to you specifically, you think everything is wrong about it. Typically internet narcism and self-centeredness. Grow up, dude.

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T3
By T3 (2 months ago)

And by the way, I hate the notion that a smaller camera is completely pointless unless it can fit inside your pocket. I've found that a smaller camera is still quite desirable even if it doesn't fit in your pocket. That sentiment has always existed, even back in the film days when many people preferred rangefinders over SLRs for their smaller size, even though you couldn't slip a rangefinder into your pants. Less to carry around is still less to carry around, even if it's in a messenger bag or hanging on your shoulder.

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writelight
By writelight (2 months ago)

Thanks for the post. The obsession about shirt pocket size models overshadows way more important considerations. Shirt pockets aren't on my list. Sheesh

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

"The G1 X II improves upon its predecessor in many ways. It's smaller."

Wow, it is truly amazing what passes for "improvement" these days in the camera world. Cut 2 millimeters in size -- presto, camera has been instantly "improved."

"A $299 XGA EVF is optional."

Wow, good to know. Okay, so let me see now.... you purchase the camera first for $800, and then you buy a viewfinder for it from Canon for an additional $300. Right?

Bingo - for only $1,100 in total outlay, you will have a Canon brand name camera that would go for $400, $450 from just about anyone else (except from Nikon, of course).

Laughing hard at the video specs and connectivities of this thing -- yeah, I guess it is a Canon, after all.

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Ocolon
By Ocolon (2 months ago)

@ Francis Carver ["you will have a Canon brand name camera that would go for $400, $450 from just about anyone else (except from Nikon, of course)"]

What makes you think that? What other camera maker builds a camera that is anywhere close to this, a fixed zoom lens camera with a large sensor? The Sony RX100mII’s sensor is less than half of this camera’s sensor size and it sells for more than what you suggest. And then there’s the Leica X Vario with a little bigger sensor – you can buy three G1X II for one Leica X Vario. Neither Sony RX100mII nor Leica X Vario have built-in viewfinders.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

These days, a 1.5-inch sensor is pretty small -- just ask those folks using M4/3rd, APS-C, FF 135, and medium format sensor cameras. Quick, somebody better tell Canon!

And these days, one can get plenty of larger sensor cameras for a fraction of the price of the Powershot G1 X Mark II by Canon. Quick, somebody better tell Canon!

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howardroark
By howardroark (2 months ago)

Quick, somebody tell Frank that the 1.5" sensor from Canon is larger than a 4/3 sensor!

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"Quick, somebody tell Frank that the 1.5" sensor from Canon is larger than a 4/3 sensor!"

I'm not sure it's worth debating with him... I've done a lot over at the Video forum here... ;)

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

@ Menneisyys: Yes, I did see your rather clueless comments over there on the Video Forum. Thanks for reminding us.

@ howrad's ro ark: Kindly define "larger." For starters, the aspect ratio of these sensor (Canon's 1.5-inch vs, M4/3rd) is different, so have you run the numbers and have you generated the corresponding surface areas of these imagers in square millimeters or something?

Anyhow, Canon's 1.5-inch sensor form factor sensor must be so popular, nobody else is even bothering to knock it off. It is sort of a one-legged white elephant. At least with the 1-inch sensors, now we have got them from Nikon and Sony.

As a mirrorless camera maker, Canon is certainly the last ranked player out there. They don't sem to have anything that someone else does not have it slightly better for a whole lot less money, to boot.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"@ Menneisyys: Yes, I did see your rather clueless comments over there on the Video Forum. Thanks for reminding us. "

Lolz, YOU speak about being clueless...

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Kabe Luna
By Kabe Luna (2 months ago)

What's happened to the front command dial? How does one control shutter speed in manual exposure mode? Did I miss that detail?

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M DeNero
By M DeNero (2 months ago)

It will be controlled by one of the control rings around the lens.

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RolliPoli
By RolliPoli (2 months ago)

No optical finder but an accessory EVF is available for $299 So, $1098.00 for a fixed lens, EVF camera, what a deal! That makes most entry level DSLR outfits look like a steal.

1 upvote
ponyman
By ponyman (2 months ago)

Fractionally larger sensor aside, is there any particular reason why someone would choose this over the smaller, less expensive and better specified Panasonic GM1 with its interchangeable lens mount?

1 upvote
rpm40
By rpm40 (2 months ago)

The lens. The G1X lens gives twice as much zoom, and is much faster at every equivalent focal length, than the GM1 kit lens. It's really closer to compare the GM1 with the 12-40 2.8 lens, which ends up much bigger and much more expensive.

Its cheaper, and even smaller (although its definitely heavier, the Canon is built like a brick), than anything comparable m4/3 offers right now.

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Le Frog
By Le Frog (2 months ago)

Rpm40, you beat me to the post. We don't know much about the performance of the lens yet, but if it is as good as the specs, this is the lens that Panoly should have tried to build. Well... now that the challenge is there, hopefully they will.

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ponyman
By ponyman (2 months ago)

.... assuming of course that this lens fits your one and only need. Personally I'll swap the flexibility of an interchangeable lens mount on a smaller camera for the limitations of a fixed if (possibly) slightly brighter lens any day.

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thx1138
By thx1138 (2 months ago)

Why are we arguing about ILC vs fixed lens camera. Each suits a different need. I have a DSLR and a G1X II will be much more likely to come with me everywhere than a MILC and I know this because I have a MILC as well as a DSLR. So as a backup to my DSLR the G1X II makes much more sense than another ILC system and is versatile enough to be very useful.

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BazBalzac
By BazBalzac (2 months ago)

I'm buying this. S95 replacement.

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vladimir314
By vladimir314 (2 months ago)

Im byuing this too, like G11 replacement! :-)

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (2 months ago)

It's not really the same pocket form-factor as a S95, but it certainly seems like a fantastic compromise between size, sensor size and lens speed.

1 upvote
Joseph Mama
By Joseph Mama (2 months ago)

Looks pretty good. Much QQ about the lack of viewfinder for many purists Im sure. But this seems very strong. Good 5x zoom, good aperture range wide and zoomed, and 1.5 inch sensor. Thats slightly bigger than a 4/3rd mirrorless.
800 bucks seems pretty steep though and hopefully its not quite so danged BIG as the original. If youre using a 5x zoom compact, youd like it to be..well...compact!
I wonder why they use the Background Defocus as a shooting style (presuming that they programattically blur background) I mean, its a 1.5 inch sensor with 2.0 aperture. They really don't need to 'fake it', at that point right?

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sneakyracer
By sneakyracer (2 months ago)

Another weak product from Canon. Nothing exciting at all… sad

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

Weak? Then, you certainly don't want a bright, wide 5x zoom in a smallish package...

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howardroark
By howardroark (2 months ago)

Weaksauce McGee, please quit making yourself look foolish. There is nothing weak about this product.

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rpm40
By rpm40 (2 months ago)

It's got me excited, at least!

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"There is nothing weak about this product."

Well, in the video dept, it sucks. Otherwise, I agree.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

Mark One or Mark Two, Canon's G1 X Powereshot is dead last.

1 upvote
io_bg
By io_bg (2 months ago)

Yay, finally a 180° tilting screen for selfies!

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arthon
By arthon (2 months ago)

Can someone make a small converter box with mini-HDMI for the optional electronic viewfinder so I can use this on my DSLR to ease video shooting........please!

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papa natas
By papa natas (2 months ago)

Sensor..13 or 15 mega pixels?
Shouldn't a sensor this size be around 18 or 20 mega pixels?
Can anybody explain this to me, please?

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orion1983
By orion1983 (2 months ago)

Not if you want to keep the pixel size big. Always a trade-off calculation but I think canon knows what it can do and what not. Better perfectly clear 12mp than muddy 24mp IMHO

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Joseph Mama
By Joseph Mama (2 months ago)

Remember...a monitor is only 2MPs... 1920x1080. You dont need tons of MP to have a good result.
The more MP you have, the more you are chopping up the sensor into individual pixels, but with each one getting less light. Its still the same amount of total light and total sensor size. Its just determining the right about of chopping up to get good resolution, but with good anti-noise properties.

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Ulfric M Douglas
By Ulfric M Douglas (2 months ago)

So is the sensor the same size as last time : i.e. very slightly bigger than m4/3rds but the same shape?

Tell us more about the EVF : will it fit EOS-M bodies too?

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Paul Farace
By Paul Farace (2 months ago)

What??? No optical viewfinder? Canon, say it isn't so!!! Thank God for Fuji! My Canon SLRs will have to continue to live in peace with their Fuji step brothers! Nice lens though (24mm equiv.)

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joyclick
By joyclick (2 months ago)

Can it beat E-M1 and LX 7? just by sheer sensor size?

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thx1138
By thx1138 (2 months ago)

That's a joke right, as you forgot the smiley face!

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

Starting at 24mm equiv? TEMPTING...

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

Search B&H. They have all-in-one fixed lens travel cameras for sale with significantly longer zoom ranges then just a paltry 5x, and WA focal length equivalents starting at 20mm. instead of only 24mm, as with this latest attempt by Canon to get into the mirrorless field fast moving away from their grasp.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

How does 1/2.3" or, even worse, 1/3" (sensors in most travel cameras) compare to 1.4" (the sensor in in the G1X), IQ-wise? Particularly factoring in that travel zooms tend to have 16+ Mpixels, while the G1X only has 13?

No, don't even bother to answer...

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FriendlyWalkabout
By FriendlyWalkabout (2 months ago)

I can't wait to see what Magic Lantern can do with this little gem

3 upvotes
orion1983
By orion1983 (2 months ago)

As I read it differently on some sites today: does the Mark II also have a 3 stop ND filter???

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peevee1
By peevee1 (2 months ago)

Nice lens and sensor size (for multi-aspect ratio shooting). But the body...

I had Canon G before. It had OVF, fully-articulated screen (which could be closed for bag-free storage and transport) and full manual controls. Loved it, still enjoy pictures from it. This is no G.

1 upvote
yabokkie
By yabokkie (2 months ago)

what does multi-aspect ratio mean,
other than can never fully use the entire imaging area?

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FriendlyWalkabout
By FriendlyWalkabout (2 months ago)

It can also mean the new protrusion lights a smaller pad, but is hard and bright, while the old one lit a slightly bigger pad, but was limp and dull...

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"what does multi-aspect ratio mean,
other than can never fully use the entire imaging area?"

1, see for example http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/36396593

2, hope Magic Lantern will be able to access it. On the Nokia 808, which also has a 41 Mpixel multi-aspect ratio sensor, there are hacks allowing for saving all those Mpixels into one image.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (2 months ago)

"what does multi-aspect ratio mean,
other than can never fully use the entire imaging area?"

Would you prefer a smaller sensor, so some aspect ratios would have to be smaller than they are? Because that is the only other choice with any given lens. And no, there is no a single aspect ratio which fits all scenes the best.
Actually, this sensor does not seem to be MAR enough - unlike Panasonics, it does not have native 16:9 ratio which is very important now for HDTV presentations of landscapes and HD video, makes wide end wider and 2:1 crops good.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (2 months ago)

@peevee1,
please read the post one above yours for the answer.

a very basic rule in photography, and many other works is:
anything can be done in post, do it in post (a reference frame during shooting and in EXIF should be helpful).

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tutek
By tutek (2 months ago)

Screen size 3". Too bad, they had space for 3.8". So they could put 3.5 "without problems.
I think I'll buy it anyway :)

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Super486
By Super486 (2 months ago)

Canon hits a nice first with this camera:

-Biggest sensor on a compact with fast zoom

The lens itself, if as sharp as G1x's, may hurt some M4/3 sales...

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"The lens itself, if as sharp as G1x's, may hurt some M4/3 sales..."

It definitely will. After all, with m43, there isn't a fast, cheap(ish) and small zoom with 24mm-equiv support. The 12-35 is both HUGE and darn expensive; the new 12-XX power zoom, while small and cheap, is VERY slow (staring at f/3.5?) etc.

And the same stands for the Sony NEX cameras: no bright / small / stabilized / sub-$500 24mm-capable zooms either.

24mm/2.0 with such a large sensor is a GREAT thing - the one thing that makes this camera much more interesting for me than any m43 or NEX cameras.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

"Canon hits a nice first with this camera."

Yeah, they have surely hit it -- by missing the mark badly.

"Biggest sensor on a compact with fast zoom."

You call a zoom lens with an F3.9 maximum brightness aperture "fast?" Wow.... good to know.

"The lens itself, if as sharp as G1x's, may hurt some M4/3 sales."

How can a fixed lens camera hurt sales of interchangeable lens cameras and removable lenses for them? I guess I am not getting that part, either.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"You call a zoom lens with an F3.9 maximum brightness aperture "fast?" Wow.... good to know."

Nope, he calls an f/2 lens so. Just show me a compact (and cheap) zoom with so bright WA.

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bzanchet
By bzanchet (2 months ago)

Very nice... A little late to the party...
Canon will probably have the 4K video up to 2025.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (2 months ago)

basically everyone will have 8K in 2020.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

Yup, too bad this camera doesn't really excel in the video feature dept - 1080p30 only (not even 60).

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howardroark
By howardroark (2 months ago)

Late to what party? Are you talking about the party Canon started with the G1 X, being the first large-sensor compact with a zoom lens? And what is it with everyone and video? 30fps is somehow not enough? And who cares about 4k yet? Nobody has 4k in a compact camera.

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Kevin Purcell
By Kevin Purcell (2 months ago)

"Nobody has 4k in a compact camera"

Nobody has 4K displays ... the 4K talk is very premature.

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bzanchet
By bzanchet (2 months ago)

I have a wonderful 4k Sony TV that I use as monitor, I have a Denon AVR-X2000 with 4K, Netflix is just about to start streaming in 4K... it is just that I am hoping for a compact 4K for the near future!
Late to the party the RX100 created 2 years ago, small, fast portable, big sensor câmera IMHO.
Canon lately has taken a lot of time to upgrade their line with major diferences or inovation as Sony.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"Nobody has 4K displays ... the 4K talk is very premature."

Absolutely wrong. 4K displays / TV's are getting really cheap - you can get some decent ones in the $500...$900 range. And, as has been pointed out above, more and more sources start to allow for 4K content.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

@ Menneisyys:

"too bad this camera doesn't really excel in the video feature dept - 1080p30 only (not even 60)."

Why is THAT bad? If you need stuff like that, get any other brand digital camera -- nine out of 10 will give you 1080p60. The one that will not is made by Canon, see?

Or else, if you really want t shoot video with it -- how about getting a dedicated video camcorder instead?

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

"Canon lately has taken a lot of time to upgrade their line with major diferences or inovation as Sony."

Exactly. Canon cannot even knock-off Sony, no matter how hard they are trying -- now, THAT is bad.

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bzanchet
By bzanchet (2 months ago)

Dear DPReview, could you tell me if it shoots at 16:9 aspect ratio? If it does, what would the resolution be?

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Samuel Dilworth
By Samuel Dilworth (2 months ago)

It has a 16:9 aspect ratio. DPReview lists it, slightly obscurely, as 4352 × 2448 in the specifications. So that’s the pixel count.

(It’s a conventional crop, not a full-image-circle option as on the Panasonic LX cameras – or as the 4:3 and 3:2 options on the G1 X Mark II. On the plus side, it’s available in raw format too.)

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bzanchet
By bzanchet (2 months ago)

Dear Samuel thank you very much!! I only shoot at 16:9 to view on my monitor! The resolution will be perfect for my 4K 3840 x 2160 16:9 TV. 12MP is just enough for me!

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (2 months ago)

finally one good camera .. from canon as well!!

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bzanchet
By bzanchet (2 months ago)

I totally agree with you!! I think that the 180 tiltable lcd is much more useful than the ovf.
I am not sure if I will trade my RX100, which is much smaller...

4 upvotes
Mike Yorkshire
By Mike Yorkshire (2 months ago)

No EVF/OVF = No Sale!

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (2 months ago)

> (though a $299 XGA EVF is optional)

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epozar
By epozar (2 months ago)

just like that! and no portrait-tiltable lcd

0 upvotes
schorscho
By schorscho (2 months ago)

If you like to shoot in portrait format the new screen is a big disadvantage I will keep my old one no need to upgrade.

1 upvote
PeterBM
By PeterBM (2 months ago)

Please, can it tilt downward to shoot above heads ?

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (2 months ago)

hope someone can make a hot-shoe mounted mirror with a flexible neck, for overhead and selfies. a hot-shoe mounted smart-phone may work as well via wi-fi.

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Klaus dk
By Klaus dk (2 months ago)

If you turn it upside-down, you will be able to shoot above heads using the tilted screen. No need to make it more complicated.
Selfies is another problem.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (2 months ago)

it can do selfies.

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beavertown
By beavertown (2 months ago)

Too big to carry. what a failure.

0 upvotes
aftab
By aftab (2 months ago)

Don't be so sad. There are smaller cameras in the market.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

You won't show me a large-sensor ILC with a 24mm/f2.0 5x zoom this small and cheap. Heck, not even with 3(.5)x zooms.

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rpm40
By rpm40 (2 months ago)

Too big compared to what? It's not a pocket camera.

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Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (2 months ago)

@ Menneisyys:

"You won't show me a large-sensor ILC with a 24mm/f2.0 5x zoom this small and cheap. Heck, not even with 3(.5)x zooms."

Wow, where to begin, huh?

You call this thing a "large sensor" camera? Wow.... what would you call your run of the mill APS-C sensor camera then, please -- a "COLOSSAL SENSOR" camera or something like that?

Re. the brightness, well it may be F2.0 at 24mm, but at 26mm, I bet it is already not F2.0, huh? And man, it then drops way, way down to F3.9, phew....

With the camera and the viewfinder, you are at $1,100. I guess for you, this is a "cheap" camera then? Wow....

Lastly, since when is a limited 5x range zoom lens something to right home about?

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (2 months ago)

"With the camera and the viewfinder, you are at $1,100. I guess for you, this is a "cheap" camera then? Wow...."

I'm assuming it has the same optical quality as that of the Mk I. Which means the lens is on par with $1000+ ones like the Pano 12-35. Which has, BTW, far less zoom range and is far-far larger. And "only" m4/3 - smaller than the sensor in the Canon.

"Lastly, since when is a limited 5x range zoom lens something to right home about?"

Show me a small and cheap DSLR / large-sensor ILC lens, starting at 24mm WA and having 5x zoom. Just one.

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J.K.T.
By J.K.T. (2 months ago)

Canon has phase detection AF on CMOS and this has contrast detect? This is where it belonged.

I don't really mind dropping the OVF, but the EVF should have been there. An add-on is very unlikely to be robust enough. The OVF isn't necessary as it excels in speed and manual focus and neither are priorities for this camera anyway. I don't carry reading glasses when walking and without them the screen is rather hopeless.

Removing manual dials is a really bad idea too. I still love the interface of ancient Minolta DiMAGE A1 - the EVF shoved real-time approximation of the result and a histogram as well and I had both speed and aperture on dials. Similar done with current technology should be quite interesting.

This one I'll pass.

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Hachu21
By Hachu21 (2 months ago)

hmm... You can do exactly the same with the whole G series exept for evf (liveview, histogram and dual dial)
This optional evf completes your needs.
But i agree that an integrated EVF would be better.

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