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Olympus reveals 25mm F1.8, compact 14-42mm, and 9mm F8 Fish-Eye

By dpreview staff on Jan 29, 2014 at 06:00 GMT

Alongside the OM-D E-M10, Olympus has also announced three lenses. First up is the M.Zuiko Digital 25mm F1.8, a relatively inexpensive fast normal prime, that looks specifically designed to complement the much-loved 45mm F1.8. Second is the 9mm F8 Fish-Eye Body Cap Lens (which Olympus technically considers an 'accessory'); this offers a 140° angle of view in a tiny plastic body. Finally there's a new 'pancake' kit zoom for the E-M10, the M.Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ, which features an electronic zoom.

Pricing for the new electronic zoom 14-42mm lens is $349 / £299 / €399. The 25mm F1.8 will sell for $399 / £369 / €399. Olympus hasn't really said very much about these lenses - just little snippets in the press release for the E-M10 - but here's a quick summary.

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We've also shot a sample gallery on the E-M10 using the new 25mm F1.8 and 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ lenses. Click the link below to view the samples.

Olympus OM-D E-M10 preview samples gallery shot with the 25mm F1.8 and 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ

Olympus m.Zuiko Digital 25mm F1.8

Olympus m.Zuiko Digital 25mm F1.8 on OM-D E-M10

Olympus says: "The super-bright, lightweight, high-performance M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 25mm 1:1.8 lens has a fixed focal length and is ideal for capturing portraits or close-ups from as little as 25cm. It will be available from March, priced at £369.99."

 Black version  Silver version 

Olympus m.Zuiko Digital 25mm F1.8 specifications

Principal specifications
Lens typePrime lens
Max Format sizeFourThirds
Focal length25 mm
Image stabilisationNo
Lens mountMicro Four Thirds
Aperture
Maximum apertureF1.8
Minimum apertureF22.0
Number of diaphragm blades7
Aperture notesCircular aperture diaphragm
Optics
Elements9
Groups7
Special elements / coatings2 aspherical elements
Focus
Minimum focus0.24 m (9.45)
Maximum magnification0.12×
AutofocusYes
Motor typeStepper motor
Full time manualUnknown
Focus methodInternal
Physical
Weight136 g (0.30 lb)
Diameter56 mm (2.2)
Length41 mm (1.61)
ColourBlack or Silver
Filter thread46 mm
Hood suppliedYes
Hood product codeLH-49B

Olympus m.Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ

Olympus m.Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ on OM-D E-M10, powered on with lens extended.

Olympus says: "The super-slim M.ZUIKO DIGITAL 14-42mm 1:3.5-5.6 EZ pancake zoom lens measures just 22.5mm deep, making it the world’s slimmest standard zoom kit lens*. It has a smooth electric zoom that is suitable for shooting movies. It will be available from March, priced £299.99."

*As of January 29, 2014. Shortest distance between the mount and the front end of the lens, when retracted.

The matched LC-37C is billed as a "stylish automatic lens cap for fast shooting and protecting lenses from dust and scratches". It's priced at £39.99, which seems a bit steep for a lens cap (however clever it may be).

 Black version  Silver lens
With LC-37C automatic lens cap, open   With LC-37C automatic lens cap, closed

Olympus m.Zuiko Digital 14-42mm F3.5-5.6 EZ specifications

Principal specifications
Lens typeZoom lens
Max Format sizeFourThirds
Focal length14–42 mm
Image stabilisationNo
Lens mountMicro Four Thirds
Aperture
Maximum apertureF3.5 - F5.6
Minimum apertureF22.0
Aperture ringNo
Number of diaphragm blades5
Aperture notesCircular aperture diaphragm
Optics
Elements8
Groups7
Special elements / coatings3 Aspherical elements, 1 ED glass element, 1 S-HR glass element
Focus
Minimum focus0.25 m (9.84)
Maximum magnification0.23×
AutofocusYes
Motor typeStepper motor
Full time manualUnknown
Focus methodInternal
Physical
Weight91 g (0.20 lb)
Diameter61 mm (2.4)
Length23 mm (0.91)
ColourBlack, silver
Zoom methodRotary (extending)
Power zoomYes
Filter thread37 mm
Hood suppliedNo
Hood product codeNo 'official' hood
Optional accessoriesLC-37C automatic lens cap
Other
NotesCompact retracting design with electronic power zoom

Olympus 9mm F8 Fish-Eye Body Cap Lens

Olympus 9mm F8 Fish-Eye Body Cap Lens on OM-D E-M10

Olympus says: "A host of new Micro Four Thirds accessories join the Olympus Micro Four Thirds line-up, including the  fixed-aperture F8.0 Fish Eye Body Cap lens with a focal length of 9mm (35mm equivalent: 18mm). It’s an ultra-slim accessory for creative wide-angle shooting through its 5-element, 4-group lens construction. The multi-use lens barrier MF lever switches from pan focus shooting to close up 8-inch shooting with a single press of the lever." Its UK RRP is £89.99.

Olympus 9mm F8 Fish-Eye Body Cap Lens specifications

Principal specifications
Lens typePrime lens
Max Format sizeFourThirds
Focal length9 mm
Lens mountMicro Four Thirds
Aperture
Maximum apertureF8.0
Minimum apertureF8.0
Aperture notesFixed F8 aperture
Optics
Elements5
Groups4
Special elements / coatings2 aspherical elements
Focus
Minimum focus0.20 m (7.87)
Maximum magnification0.046×
AutofocusNo
Full time manualUnknown
Focus methodInternal
Physical
Weight30 g (0.07 lb)
Diameter56 mm (2.2)
Length13 mm (0.51)
MaterialsPlastic
Hood suppliedNo
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Comments

Total comments: 146
W4YNE 1
By W4YNE 1 (2 months ago)

A few more images by Robin Wong using the 25mm f1.8 lens I came across for anyone interested?

http://robinwong.blogspot.it/2014/02/olympus-mzuiko-25mm-f18-review-part-1.html

http://www.jackieloi.com/2014/02/chinese-new-year-shooting-at-pudu-wet.html

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bluevellet
By bluevellet (2 months ago)

The 9mm fisheye has pretty good IQ, better than the 15mm bodycap lens.

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Joel Pimenta
By Joel Pimenta (2 months ago)

Te 9mm f:8 remembers a cheap version of the old Zeiss Hologon 15mm f:8.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (3 months ago)

Love the size and such of the 14-42mm PZ, when they make it an f/2.8-4 lens I'll buy one. Tired of the same ol f3.5-5.6 kit lenses, so old now. Make it a little bigger with a brighter aperture next time Oly, makes much more sense. It's a reasonable request that wouldn't make it much bigger at all and drive more sales.

C

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BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

$349 and €399 for the powerzoom. That is one weird exchange rate.
I don't like €399 for the 25mm either.

That is way too close to the 25mm F1.4 panasonic which actually says leica on the front. The 20mm has a very good reputation and is cheaper. So I think olympus has overpriced them. Here i was thinking olympus was heading in the right direction with the EM-10 prices.

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acidic
By acidic (3 months ago)

The 20mm focuses slowly and poorly, especially in low light. But it's good enough for me to not want to spend the additional $$ on this new 25mm.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

what's the advantage of this lens over Pany 25mm? other then bit cheaper and lighter!!

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bluevellet
By bluevellet (3 months ago)

Lens corrections in Olympus bodies.

Better matching colors to Olympus bodies too. ;)

3 upvotes
Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

thanks mate!!

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pdelux
By pdelux (3 months ago)

Cheaper and lighter sounds already like 2 good reasons not sure if you need any more if these 2 qualify for you.

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davidrm
By davidrm (2 months ago)

I own the PL-25mm. It hardly ever goes out of the house. It's bulky, clumsy to handle on my E-P3, and the aperture chatter drives me nuts.

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Ben O Connor
By Ben O Connor (3 months ago)

It says 25mm´s Finnish brouchure that "lens hood included" wish to see it, and wondering does it fitting anyting else, which has 46mm diameter (such as 17mm, 12mm)

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Ben O Connor
By Ben O Connor (3 months ago)

http://www.sulantoblog.fi/olympus-m-zuiko-25-mm-f1-8-ensituntumat/

For anyone interested, just found this.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

thanks for sharing .. i have no idea why, but I just hate screwing a lens hood!

if the lens is potentially resistant to flare, what's the other benefit of it?

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pdelux
By pdelux (3 months ago)

Most wideish lenses will flare with a direct light source at certain angles even "flare" resistant ones. A hood will reduce this effect.

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ManuelVilardeMacedo
By ManuelVilardeMacedo (2 months ago)

Ben, even if you could mount a 25mm lens hood on a shorter lens, you'd have a severe light loss in the corners of the image. Hoods are specifically conceived for a given focal length. On the other hand, you can mount a 25mm hood on a longer - say, 45mm - lens, but it won't be very effective. It has to do with the angle of view, which gets narrower as focal length increases.

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DStudio
By DStudio (3 months ago)

Looks like some nice additions!

Nice IQ on the 25, and a very desirable compact design on the pancake zoom.

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Englishman in France
By Englishman in France (3 months ago)

So the Olympus 25mm F1.8 costs £370 without lens hood or storage pouch and the Panasonic 25mm F1.4 costs £430 (amazon uk) with a lens hood and pouch. The price of the olympus lens hood is unknown, but their lens hood for the 45mm is £30. This is not the nifty fifty that the system needs. The price needs to drop.

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zenit_b
By zenit_b (3 months ago)

hmm... yes I actually got a £50 cashback when I bought my Panasonic 25mm F1.4 which made it about this price. Hopefully the street price will come down though. The 45mm f/1.8 can be got very cheaply now...

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sbszine
By sbszine (3 months ago)

The Oly 25 comes with a lens hood.

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zenit_b
By zenit_b (3 months ago)

good point sbszine .. wheras with the oly 45mm the hood is quite a bit extra... The Pana 25mm f/1.4 comes with a hood though (a cute square one)...which given the price it should do I guess ...

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Lux Painter
By Lux Painter (3 months ago)

The 25mmf1.8 sounds like an awesome lens and was long overdue. And based on Olympus reputation of building great lenses it should have a stellar performance.

But the price tag of $400 (twice the price of a full frame 50mmf1.8 lens) must be a sick joke!

Maybe Olympus is trying to ruin their m43 biz completely.

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Dolan Halbrook
By Dolan Halbrook (3 months ago)

It makes sense that it's priced in accordance with the 45/1.8... it's very similar. What you and other posters seem to be missing about the "nifty fifties" is that virtually all of them are very old lens designs where the tooling and production costs have largely been amortized. I too wish it were cheaper, but Oly fancies itself a premium brand and will price their stuff accordingly. Lenses at the end of their production cycle are always more expensive than those at the end. The Pentax 50/1.4 vs 55/1.4 SDM is a good example. I got the former for $200 at one point. When the latter came out it was over $500.

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Karroly
By Karroly (3 months ago)

Twice the price ? In Europe it will be 4 times the price !
400 euros for the 25mm F1.8 lens when the Canon EF 50mm F1.8 MKII sells for 100 euros... Totally crazy !
I can buy a SIGMA 17-50mm f/2.8 DC HSM EX for less than 400 euros too, and it is not an "old" lens. Well, that is not for the same usage, but the Sigma is certainly a much more complex design.
I am aware the sales volume of the Canon 50mm is certainly "stellar" compared to the Zuiko 25mm to come... Thus the price difference.
I am tempted to give the M43 system a try, but cost still keeps me away from it.

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Iskender
By Iskender (3 months ago)

If the 25 is anything like the 45/1.8, it will be clearly better than the 50/1.8. The Lenstip reviews of the 45 and 50 show quite clearly which one is made to a lower price - the 45 does not have "loud and unreliable autofocus".

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bluevellet
By bluevellet (3 months ago)

I live in one of those expensive European countries and paid around 400 bucks for the 45mm f1.8. That's including the 25% VAT.

It was worth it. I consider it one of the must haves for the m43 system.

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BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

Iskender. The 50mm F1.8 Canon is loud and built to fall apart.
The Nikon 50mm F1.8 on the other hand is an excellent lens which costs €169 at my local store today.

bluevellet. portrait lenses are in general more expensive. look at the Nikkor 85mm F1.8G. That is an awesome lens but costs €500. The 45mm is a must have.

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joejack951
By joejack951 (3 months ago)

Dolan Halbrook posted: " What you and other posters seem to be missing about the "nifty fifties" is that virtually all of them are very old lens designs where the tooling and production costs have largely been amortized."

Dolan, the Nikon 50mm f/1.8 AF-S G is the most expensive 50/1.8 made by Canikon. It was introduced in 2011. It's still half the price of the new Olympus 25/1.8.

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Summi Luchs
By Summi Luchs (3 months ago)

@Dolan: I agree, most 50mm are variations of the old double-gauss (Zeiss Planar) design. But there are other examples, the low priced Nikon 1.8 50mmG is a new lens design using aspherical elements and a modern ultrasonic AF drive. OTOH Zeiss OTUS shows where the upper spectrum of a "normal prime" ends. Lets wait for some permomance tets of the 25mm Oly. If it is a very good performer, its price is ok.

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BorisAkunin
By BorisAkunin (3 months ago)

"Pricing for the new electronic zoom 14-42mm lens is $349 / £299 / €399"

Seriously? We've gotten used to $=€ pricing but this is ridiculous!

$349 / 1.328 (average exchange rate in 2013) * 1.24 (highest VAT in the Eurozone)
= 326€

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

It is $399 at BH Photo, so I'm guessing it is a typo on the price.

With your equation, $399 works out to 375 Euro.

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Peter Del
By Peter Del (3 months ago)

I am looking forward to seeing pictures taken with the 9mm, to see how much distortion there is. The angle of view is 140 degrees as opposed to the 7.5mm Samyang, which is 180 degrees! My 9-18 is 100 at the wide end.
Peter Del

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

fisheyes have a wider angle of view for the same focal length based on the light projection of the lens.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

is it possible to correct the distortion on a fish eye and lose some of its coverage?

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pannumon
By pannumon (3 months ago)

Naveed, yes it is possible to correct the distortion:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3373069
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3150131

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

thanks mate!!

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

How come Canon can build a $250 22mm f2 with a metal body and sharp optics, but Olympus wants double that? (3-4x given the current $125 street price of 22mm). And the Canon 22mm is nearly half the length of the 25mm.

m4/3 has some great lens options, they just all seem priced about double what I'd expect.

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white shadow
By white shadow (3 months ago)

It is unfortunate that many Micro 4/3 lenses are rather expensive for its small size. A 25mm f1.8 (50mm equivalent) should be cheap to make even if it come with a metal mount. I feel it should not cost more than $200. The Canon 50mm f/1.8 with plastic mount only cost about $120 and that's full frame. OK, give it a metal mount for an extra $30 and it may still sell for only $150.

So, $399 for this lens is NOT cheap unless it is optically excellent. The Panaleica is definitely way beyond its actual worth but that's f1.4.

It can be either of two things. They do not have the economy of scale or they are just profiteering.

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Karroly
By Karroly (3 months ago)

"It can be either of two things. They do not have the economy of scale or they are just profiteering."
It is neither of two things, it is both ! ;-)

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DStudio
By DStudio (3 months ago)

Let's not forget all the camera companies patiently waited a few years to slowly adjust prices to match the reality that the economy is doing relatively poorly in most of the world (despite attempts to keep up good appearances), and the yen is rather strong.

We're just seeing that played out. Plus, development costs were probably significant.

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Beat Traveller
By Beat Traveller (3 months ago)

One is a 50mm equivalent, and one is a 35mm equivalent. Apples and oranges.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

Okay, well, 35mm are typically 50-100% more expensive than 50's. :)

More importantly they are about the same focal length and aperture with about the same flange distance.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

this comparison is over-simplistic and is truly insane ... :)))

its not just the focal length .. that needs to match .. but image circle too to relate to the smaller sensor, both has its own challenges.

plus its not just the cost of production, but also r&d!!

the lens will come down on prices, for early adapters, there is always a penalty!!

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

So you are implying a smaller imaging circle costs more to design and produce?

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Digitall
By Digitall (3 months ago)

Let me see, I can buy:

Oly 25/1.8 for €399

or

Pana/Leica 25/1.4 €408

€9,00 difference do not make me stop thinking about the Leica. The Oly. lens seems to have quality, these are my first impressions, however I am waiting for tests and comparisons. However I think Olympus is pulling much the price of this lens.

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Thorgrem
By Thorgrem (3 months ago)

Let me see;

You are comparing an introduction price of a lens to a market price of a lens that already is a year on the market.

Wait a few monts and this lens will be around 300 euro.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

Even at the same price, those on OLympus bodies probably want the one that has auto-corrections in body.

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bluevellet
By bluevellet (3 months ago)

Or just want a smaller 25mm lens.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

what?? oly bodies won't correct Pany 25mm?

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bluevellet
By bluevellet (3 months ago)

Maybe E-M1 and E-M10 can (E-M1 could correct the Pana lenses they tested in the DPR review), but I am certain the older bodies can not.

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Retzius
By Retzius (3 months ago)

Nice work Olympus.

Maybe one of these years Nikon can find the time to come out with a wide angle DX lens. Just one, cuz you know, it is your biggest installed user base. I know you are busy and I know you don't care what the other companies are doing and I know it is hubris for me to bother you with such things. But look, it has been like 10 years. If you designed one lens element a year for the last 10 years you could have had designed one by now.

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Iskender
By Iskender (3 months ago)

Some have actually waited for a fast 50mm equivalent from Olympus for ten years (since the launch of the previous system). So maybe your wish will be granted, too?

This Olympus has nine elements, though, so it apparently takes more than a year per element. : )

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

m43 is roughly 4 to 5 years old standard!!

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bluevellet
By bluevellet (3 months ago)

Well, the other poster might be talking about 43 DSLRs too. They had a pancake 25mm then, but not a very fast one at f2.8.

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rfsIII
By rfsIII (3 months ago)

I really like my 12-24 f/4 Nikkor, it's a great value if you buy one used. But do you mean a wide-angle prime? Because you're right. They should have come out with a 14mm or 16mm f/1.8 years ago. It is inexcusable.

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Iskender
By Iskender (3 months ago)

Naveed Akhtar: bluevellet is right: I'm talking about the old Four Thirds system. I and many others jumped from that to M43, so common deficiencies in both systems add up to a lot of years...

If this lens is as good as the early reviews suggest, the wait is over though! Very good. In a perfect world there would be a tilt/shift in the system too, but I'll manage.

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (3 months ago)

"Olympus 9mm F8 Fish-Eye Body Cap Lens"

It seems that afterall I will get myself a fish-eye lens!

:)

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (3 months ago)

Seems like a no-brainer for most m4/3 owners, doesn't it?

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BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

luckily we already have the great rokinon/samyang/bower or whatever the brand is 7.5mm fisheye

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Jogger
By Jogger (3 months ago)

Why is the 25/1.8 more expensive than the already excellent and faster 50/1.8 from other makers? Even the excellent Nikon 35/1.8 is faster and less than $200.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

the price of 25/1.8 should be higher than 1/4 of 50/1.8.

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photofan1986
By photofan1986 (3 months ago)

You mean the Canon 50 1.8? This lens should come free with cereals :D

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halfwaythere
By halfwaythere (3 months ago)

Maybe because none of the cheap 1.8 equiv. fifties are designed for digital with fast and silent autofocus suited for video.

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Chev Chelios
By Chev Chelios (3 months ago)

@halfwaythere

Nikon's full-frame AF-S 50mm f1.8G is well built and less than half the price of the Oly.

The only bit of the Olympus 25/1.8 that's been "designed for digital" is the price tag.

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Macx
By Macx (3 months ago)

It's partly because of the economies of scale: The more you make of a product, the comparatively cheaper it will be to research, produce and market it. It's the same reason that kit lenses are cheaper.

But it's also a matter of supply and demand. I suspect there are several other manufacturers making relatively fast, normal lenses for the Nikon mount, but for the micro four-thirds mount, the competition is limited.

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halfwaythere
By halfwaythere (3 months ago)

@Chev Chelios

You should really compare optical formulas. The Olympus is much more complex and this is one of the reasons I bet it will be much sharper wide open, as are the other F1.8 Olympus m43 lenses.

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Macx
By Macx (3 months ago)

halfwaythere, that's a good point. Let's take the Nikkor 32/1.2 lens they make for the 1 system. 9 elements in 7 groups like the Zuiko: Nikon's asking price is $900.

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technotic
By technotic (3 months ago)

Hey yab, 1/4 of 50/1.8 ~= 7. Are you talking about bars of gold pressed latinum again?

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

nikon never developed a 25/1.8 for m43 format!
so stop this silly comparison!!

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BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

Panasonic makes a F1.4 with a leica sticker for just €10 more retail price now. it should be a 100 less naveed and you know it too

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

The 9mm body cap has 5 elements in 4 groups vs 3 elements in 3 groups for 15mm body cap. Plus being a fish-eye, they have put no effort into barrel distortion correction. :)
I guess it should make it much better optically than 15mm BCL. If it would only be weather-sealed and have electronic contacts for automatic setting of FL and EXIF, it would be a great addition to the lens lineup.

5 elements for f/8 fisheye lens! Wow.

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ProfHankD
By ProfHankD (3 months ago)

I also think the cheap and tiny "rectangular fisheye" is the interesting lens here, provided the IQ is reasonable and it really is a roughly 180-degree fisheye (not just a badly barrel-distorted moderately wide view). The fixed f/8 aperture is fine; it's ok for low light at such a short focal length, and it is probably near the diffraction limit so stopping-down further wouldn't be good anyway.

Incidentally, the video crowd may see this as a reason not to have to switch to a GoPro for some things, so it's probably got a market even if it just barely looks good at 1080 resolution.

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (3 months ago)

As we said in the main news story, the 9mm fisheye has a 140 degree diagonal angle of view, not 180 degrees.

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ProfHankD
By ProfHankD (3 months ago)

I missed that. 140 is probably close enough for the GoPro crowd. I don't get much more than that out of my ancient Spiratone 12mm fisheye, which is also f/8 (or f/11 or f/16), on APS-C, and it's still quite appealing -- as opposed to pseudo-fisheye adapters giving a distorted view of as little as 75 degrees. However, 140 is not going to be taken seriously for things like 360-degree stitching.

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Pixnat2
By Pixnat2 (3 months ago)

A first glance, the 25mm looks sharp and the bokeh is rather nice.
Sharpness and contrast at f/1.8 are pretty impressive. Let's wait for the tests, but a positive first impression here :-)

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zoblVie
By zoblVie (3 months ago)

What I find most surprising but welcome is, that Olympus finally decided to add a lens hood to the 25mm 1.8 lens. Finally, they got it - although the price is quite high in Europe.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

"14-42mm lens is $349 / £299 / €399."

Very nice but overpriced - but for $100 in kit with E-M10 (and I am sure with future cams) just perfect.

" The 25mm F1.8 will sell for $399 / £369 / €399."

Overpriced, I can buy a new Pana 24/1.4, 2/3EV faster, for $500. Should have been $200, like Nikon 35/1.8 DX.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

it doesn't worth $200, should be much cheaper. but anyone should be aware of the high cost low performance issue before choosing m4/3".

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mfj197
By mfj197 (3 months ago)

It's not $100 in the kit - it's £170 in the E-M10 kit, available in the UK. The US E-M10 kit (which is $100 more than body only doesn't contain this lens; rather it comes bundled with the existing 14-42mm II R lens.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

mfj197, are you sure? That is so strange. BH tells it is EZ. Amazon lists strange 14-42 2RK, but pictures show EZ (not 14-42 II with intermittent ridges on the zoom ring).

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rpm40
By rpm40 (3 months ago)

I agree $399 is high for the 25, I hoped for $299, but the 45mm dropped to $299 on occasion and I'm sure the 25 will get there eventually too. When it does, I think it will be a very well liked lens.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

Nikon 50/1.8G, USD 217
Nikon 85/1.8G, USD 497
Oly 45/1.8, USD 399

so Oly 25/1.8 will worth
USD 56 + alpha, using Nikon 50/1.8G as reference, or
USD 174, using Oly 45/1.8G as reference (399 * 217 / 497)

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RichRMA
By RichRMA (3 months ago)

People should remember, it's a 25mm lens that may function as a 50mm on m4/3rds, but it's still a 25mm lens that has to accommodate a higher pixel density than APS or FF. Nikon's old D lens, 24mm f/2.8 costs $360.00.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

what's the pixel density on mobile phones?

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technotic
By technotic (3 months ago)

More rubbish from yab. M43 is excellent and many pros make money out of them so what you say exists only in the fantasy land you call a brain. More people are laughing at you yab. Do you do stand up? You'd do better at that than photography. Oh But you only do forum fantasy and not actually talking photos. Ever wondered what that shiny button that sits on the top right of most cameras? Try pressing it and you'll be amazed what happens especially when you do it to an m43 camera.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

right many people make money out of rubbish. actually I went to photo a sewage treatment plant recently and it's beautiful. not a place for most of us to live though.

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MikeStern
By MikeStern (3 months ago)

Don't worry about the high price of the ez retractable lens. This is the announcement price.
Take a look at the similar apsc lens by Sony. 16-50 pz retractable. On sony website and the announcement price is was: $349
I bought a brand new one on eBay from a 100% trustable seller for $159 with free shipping. There are many other vendors for similar prices.
The announcement price is for early adapters. The right price for this lens will take place in a few months.

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technotic
By technotic (3 months ago)

You can't answer with a sensible comment so you come out with more childlike gibberish. Let's see now because I made a totally valid point you now equate the fact that pros make money out of the cameras you deride with taking photos of a sewerage plant. Well yab I was wrong you can't even make a go of stand up. Don' try and make jokes yab just let people laugh at your natural stupidity. Or better still toodle off to the hundreds of other forums you pollute.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

"Nikon 50/1.8G, USD 217"

But it is not a sharp lens at all, very poor lens in fact, almost as bad as its Canon counterpart. But for twice as large image circle diameter.
I think 25/1.8 for m43 should be about $150-300, depending on quality (OK to perfect, there are no really bad lenses for m43 unlike almost every wide and normal prime for FF). At $400 it is of course overpriced.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

MikeStern: "Don't worry about the high price of the ez retractable lens. This is the announcement price.
Take a look at the similar apsc lens by Sony. 16-50 pz retractable. On sony website and the announcement price is was: $349
I bought a brand new one on eBay from a 100% trustable seller for $159 with free shipping. There are many other vendors for similar prices. "

I agree, and that is what I am saying. At least it is going to happen in the market where they release it in kits. If not, overseas shipping will increase prices.

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ybizzle
By ybizzle (3 months ago)

You would have to be a complete fruitcake to pay $350 for the 14-42mm lens, no matter how compact.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

Expect it on ebay taken off E-M10 kits for $100-150 in no time.

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mfj197
By mfj197 (3 months ago)

Doubt it - it's available on kits in the UK for £170 extra and not available on kits in the US at all.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

mfj197, it is not AVAILABLE anywhere yet. But on the preorder page at B&H, it says "M.ZUIKO 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 EZ Lens"

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1026114-REG/olympus_v207021su000_om_d_e_m10_mirrorless_micro.html

Yes, at $799, $100 more than body only.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

I wonder if somebody preorders now and BH ships E-M10 with regular 14-42 II R, what will be the recourse - just a return?

PS. Oh, too late. BH already fixed the error and it is just the 14-42 II R now. :( What a pity. :-( I guess here in America long lens sells better. ;-)

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Maff maff
By Maff maff (3 months ago)

And I have hopped so much for a redesign of the 9-18 or better a less pricy MFT 7-14 or maybe a 6-12 (like for APS-C 8-16 from Sigma). I have to wait.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

hope 25/1.8 can replace 20/1.7 as the default lens on m4/3".
20/1.7 isn't a good lens but has been the best one for m4/3".

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (3 months ago)

To me it doesn't seem compelling to choose one over the other, on one hand the 25/1.8 presumably has better focus speed but on the other hand the 20/1.7 is much smaller.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

agree with the size which is non-issue for me.
actually I'll like to have a larger one, larger aperture.
though f/1.8 is not too bad on 4/3".

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technotic
By technotic (3 months ago)

What is it with you yab? The 20mm produces superb images when used for photography rather than an object of aimless statements like yours. Focus speed is lacking but image quality is fantastic.

And now you are admitting F1.7 is good for m43. Surely you mean it has to be F0.7. Changing our mind again are we yab? Next you'll tell us m43 is better than MF.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

f/1.7 on 4/3" is just as good as f/3.3 on 35mm format.
no more, no less.

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rpm40
By rpm40 (3 months ago)

Don't feed the troll...

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jyhfeei
By jyhfeei (3 months ago)

This is one area I have to agree with yabokkie on. Olympus and Pany should be pushing their standard lenses faster in speed for the DOF control. f/1.8 in m43 does not really cut it. Is ok for the tele lenses, but that is slow for a m43 standard. 1 stop faster would have made a big difference. Unfortunately, the fast Voigtlander lenses are manual focus and very expensive. Seems like a void in the m43 system between f/0.95 and f/1.8.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

for me, this 25/1.8 and 20/1.7 work as 50/1.8 or 40/2.8 on m4/3". they have about the same angle of view, less light gathering capacity which is not the highest priority here (I use 40/2.8 more) for they more work as body cap lens that I can shoot with instantly.

they have lower performance at higher prices.

for 4/3", f/1.8 should be an f-number for zooms.

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technotic
By technotic (3 months ago)

Now now yab don't go back on what you said even in the same thread. You said F1.8 is "not too bad" (for a prime) but now it has to be for zooms. If you aren't consistent nobody will take you seriously. Oh hang on the 9000 dumb posts a day you make has already ensured that.

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technotic
By technotic (3 months ago)

And another thing yab the fact that you'd prefer a larger lens tells us you don't clucking even get the concept of m43 do you? Do you want a point and shoot with a 1DX body because you don't like little buttons and no proper grip? You don't like m43 so you have to come here to espouse your irrational little remarks to make you feel good that you have got a BIG full fat Canon with the oh so lovely 40mm . How sweet must that look. You have to ask yourself why you are being so childish because that's exactly what little children would do.

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bluevellet
By bluevellet (2 months ago)

@jyhfeei

If they push aperture, they jack up the price and size too (unless they seriously undermine IQ as a shortcut) and then you have the classic excuse "it's too expensive/big for a m43 lens".

The current course for Pana and Oly is mostly right. Leave the crazy aperture, niche lenses to third-parties.

If you really want thin DoF, m43 is not for you.

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Archiver
By Archiver (3 months ago)

That 50/1.8 is definitely on the shopping list!

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disraeli demon
By disraeli demon (3 months ago)

Excellent! I've been hoping Olympus would come up with a 25mm 1.8… the PanaLeica 1.4 is brilliant but price aside, I tried one in a shop and it weighs a TON… hopefully the street price of the Olympus will be a little more reasonable

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Iskender
By Iskender (3 months ago)

You know M43 has succeeded at being a light system when a 200-gram lens is considered very heavy. : )

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

Pana Leica and Sony Zeiss are proved to be low quality. both of them are third-class makers but they are not as good as other third-class makers like Cosina.

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technotic
By technotic (3 months ago)

Where is your personal evidence to back up this claim yab? You have none. Your words are meaningless.

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deep7
By deep7 (3 months ago)

This yabokkie character turns up all the time making irrational, negative comments. Why, for goodness sake? Go away.

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MikeStern
By MikeStern (3 months ago)

"Pana Leica and Sony Zeiss are proved to be low quality."

Yabokkie doesn't know what he is talking about. Should have done his homework.
Today dxo website shows the sony/zeiss lens 55mm f/1.8 as the second best lens tested. Right after Otus. Same level if sharpness score. I own it on a7r. Sony made magic this time.
I also loved some of their nex lenses on my nex6. 50mm f/1.8 (cheap) and 35mm f/1.8 are excellent lenses.

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oluv
By oluv (3 months ago)

mFT needs at least f/1.2 lenses to compete with the rest. is f/1.8 all olympus can come up with?

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deep7
By deep7 (3 months ago)

Micro four thirds does not "need" f1.2 lenses.
Micro four thirds has an f1.2 lens and three f0.95 lenses.
Olympus make lovely lenses which make micro four thirds a very good camera system to use.

Sheesh.

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jtan163
By jtan163 (3 months ago)

@Oluuv
Why does MFT need 1.2 lenses?
Which metric do you personally think MFT shooters and manufacturers need to match to be able to take decent photos?

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oluv
By oluv (3 months ago)

yeah, three f/0.95 with manual focus, thanks!

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rpm40
By rpm40 (3 months ago)

The m4/3 system is about a balance of performance and size. I think 1.8 is a great compromise. They don't need to compete with SLRs, they need to offer an alternative, and so far they're doing a good job of that.

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (3 months ago)

Wait and see if X-T1's AF is much improved. There is less and less reason to consider mFT when Fuji keeps bringing out fast lenses.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

I think Fuji will redesign their lenses (for video, besides optical quality) so let's just relax and wait to see.

also, one reason they need this X-Trans rubbish is because they don't have confidence and things may change when they can bring out good lenses and bodies.

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technotic
By technotic (3 months ago)

Don't mention the F word. It doesn't take much to make Yab to swing out of his tree and take an irrational flap at fuji. What a sad little person.

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oluv
By oluv (3 months ago)

wow 349$ = 399€ for the 14-42! shouldn't it be the other way round?

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le_alain
By le_alain (3 months ago)

Helas, in photographic equipment we don't have the same change $ -> € ...

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BorisAkunin
By BorisAkunin (3 months ago)

It SHOULD be ~325€:

$349 / 1.328 (average exchange rate in 2013) * 1.24 (highest VAT in the Eurozone)
= 326€

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zigi_S
By zigi_S (3 months ago)

Just don't buy it. Olympus always overprices their products and later firesales them for nothing. A bunch of morons setting prices in olympus if you ask me. And all japanese companies sell in europe their products for more. And it's not taxes. It's just to offset the subsidizing the american customer.

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Jákup
By Jákup (3 months ago)

Pretty sure the € price on the 25mm f1.8 is a misstake or typo.

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Photohobbyfun
By Photohobbyfun (3 months ago)

It seems Olympus is now missing a competitor to Panasonic's GM1. I imagine it may be harder to shrink the PM2 because of the IBIS system but maybe they can figure something out.

Now, can Olympus or Panasonic make a small, retractable telezoom to compliment these standard zoom pancakes?

I hear the Pentax Q has a small following in Japan but micro four thirds may now start impeding on that market.

At least for me, I'm now starting to look at the GM1 instead of the Pentax Q.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

"Now, can Olympus or Panasonic make a small, retractable telezoom to compliment these standard zoom pancakes?"

Pana is already working on a small 35-100.

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arbuz
By arbuz (3 months ago)

GM1 one is about the size. i don't see Olympus having such a small camera. No competition, regardless of all olytalibs statements

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Babya
By Babya (3 months ago)

The new 9mm fish-eye body cap lens should be a fun lens to shoot-would the compliment the 15mm F8 body cap lens quite nicely.

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arbuz
By arbuz (3 months ago)

Fun will start once you see the pictures.

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Chaitanya S
By Chaitanya S (3 months ago)

14-42 looks like a good lens for small m4/3 camera. I will wait for reviews to see how does it compare to Panasonic 12-32 lens.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

I think its more direct competitor is Pana 14-42 X PZ.

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rpm40
By rpm40 (3 months ago)

I agree with the OP that the 12-32 is the real competition. Oly has no reason to target the 14-42x, Panny had issues with that lens and it looks like they're abandoning it. I doubt we see it in any future kits.

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Vinc T
By Vinc T (3 months ago)

This 9mm is a must buy for me! The 25mm looks good too!

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Dr_Jon
By Dr_Jon (3 months ago)

IIRC DXO described the existing body cap lens as the worst lens they ever tested, so I'd be tempted to wait and see on that one. Also 9mm seems a bit long for a diagonal fisheye, perhaps is it not 180 degrees in any direction?

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (3 months ago)

As mentioned in the main news story text above, the 9mm offers a 140 degree diagonal of view, so it's not a 'true' fisheye in that sense. It almost certainly won't be optically brilliant, but it should be fun to shoot with, rather like the 15mm F8.

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arbuz
By arbuz (3 months ago)

What the 'fun' to take pictures with poor quality lens? There is plenty of small lenses offering very good quality even on u4/3. Small fisheye - see Samsung 10mm - small but true lens of good quality.

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yslee1
By yslee1 (3 months ago)

Why are the 20mm f/1.7 and 25mm f/1.8 so expensive? These should be inexpensive double gauss designs, so I don't really get the pricing, especially so when gems like the 45mm f/1.8 seem more in line with their larger counterparts.

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Garp2000
By Garp2000 (3 months ago)

Since when have resell prices to do with manufacturing costs?

This is called free market economy.

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Light Bender
By Light Bender (3 months ago)

The 25mm 1.8 isn't a gauss design (9 elements in 7 groups so it won't be symmetrical) - hence why it's super small and has a very close focusing distance. It also probably mean that it'll focus faster as well as the lens will more than likely use less elements for focusing as opposed to the symmetrical gauss design. It also probably explains why it's more expensive.

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thx1138
By thx1138 (3 months ago)

Nothing special at all about the mfd of this lens. It's about average.

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Lukino
By Lukino (3 months ago)

I just hope panny's 20 will drop a little now that there are more options.. while I'm quite sure there is a cartel for m43 lenses price.

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sjs314
By sjs314 (3 months ago)

Excited to get the new fisheye body cap lens, looking forward to seeing a hands on review and example of pictures. I do wish it came in silver

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Peter Del
By Peter Del (3 months ago)

It does come in silver

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