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Pictures emerge showing widely-leaked Fujfilm 'X-T1'

By dpreview staff on Jan 23, 2014 at 20:12 GMT

Last week, Fujifilm teased a new, apparently high-end X-series camera. Inevitably this has lead to a flurry of new rumors, much speculation about the camera's specification and now a slew of product photographs courtesy of Japanese site digicame-info.com (English translation), apparently showing an 'X-T1'.

A very official-looking leaked image which shows the 'X-T1', a rumored high-end X-series mirrorless camera from Fujifilm, which the company has been teasing for a few days. The X-T1 is rumored to share the same 16MP X-Trans II sensor as the X100S and X-E2 in a weather-sealed body.
The X-T1 is also rumored to feature a 2.36 million-dot OLED electronic viewfinder and 8 fps continuous shooting, which (if true) would make it the most capable X-series model that Fujifilm has yet produced. 

At this point, we're not sure whether Fujifilm will have anything really new to announce when the camera finally gets officially launched, but you can be sure that when it does, we'll be on hand with a full report. 

Via: PetaPixel

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mbrobich
By mbrobich (3 months ago)

Just PRE-ordered mine. Got a FREE grip included with the pre-order !!

Dang can't wait !!!!!

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SOFTWARETESTER
By SOFTWARETESTER (3 months ago)

I think this will be the best camera with the 27 or 18mm lens or the 18-55.
The only reason to wait is the horrible skin-like leather outfit. I use the Nikon D700 with a Nikon 85 mm and a Sigma 150mm 2,8 for full frame and I am very happy with the quality of the photos, but it has the same leather problem and it's very heavy. But I think in 2 or 3 years after 2 or 3 follower cams Fuji could be the right choice for me in the future!

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Topher5
By Topher5 (3 months ago)

Olympus ... much.

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El Profe
By El Profe (3 months ago)

It makes no sense (to me) to design a classic or retro looking and hopefully with simple A, S, M controls (no 100 scenes modes) body and then damage the retro concept by using an EVF. If it has an OVF i think about it. But if it has an EVF i don't even bother not even to read about it (no matter the price).

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Neroon
By Neroon (3 months ago)

Feeling a little archaic are we...let me know when you come up with a design that uses the X lenses and can fit a mirror between the lens and the sensor. I know, it could be a tiny mirror that shows 20% of the scene...next stupid complaint please.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

a redesign of the camera using redesigned X lenses.

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Zoron
By Zoron (3 months ago)

heyyy....only in black?....where's the silver body option?

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

it will become silver next year
when the black paint torn out.

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kadardr
By kadardr (3 months ago)

That is MILC identity crisis when they want to look like SLRs of the eighties, and we say how nice and how new. It seems SLR-look sells well. When a MILC looks like a DSLR, it is less than a DSLR.
If a MILC wants to be more than a DSLR, it needs to have
a big tilting EVF with very high refresh rate, and
an articulated LCD screen,
nevertheless a touch-screen.
To keep up with smartphones the screen should be at least 4".
Pocketability is a myth, and smartphones will always be better in pockets. AF speed still remains an issue.

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plasnu
By plasnu (3 months ago)

High resolution big EVF may require SLR shape.

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Joel Benford
By Joel Benford (3 months ago)

After buying a Nex-6, I swore I would never buy another camera without a vertical grip and a second shutter release.

Ooh.

Direct ISO dial is very nice too.

And aperture on the lens. And an exposure comp dial.

Holy cow, you could use this baby in aperture priority, using the lens and the exposure comp dial, and that dial under the shutter would be free for other things.

Groovy.

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SergeyMS
By SergeyMS (3 months ago)

Old sensor? What reason in this camera?

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forpetessake
By forpetessake (3 months ago)

That old Sony sensor isn't bad, albeit Sony themselves already using a new 20MP one, probably X-Pro2 will get it.

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

Old = bad = no good? Or tried and proven?

6 upvotes
Fox Fisher
By Fox Fisher (3 months ago)

Love at first sight!

2 upvotes
Craig from Nevada
By Craig from Nevada (3 months ago)

There is plenty left--most notably clicking the order icon.

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audijam
By audijam (3 months ago)

copy of Contax RTS III?

3 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

it may be because the small size forced the designers get out something similar. smaller size of the body compared with the fixed size of the hot shoe.

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ozturert
By ozturert (3 months ago)

Mirrorless bodies are progressively looking like DSLRs. Then, why do we have mirrorless cameras at all? Do 2 dials and sharper corners make the large mirrorless cameras very different from DSLRs?

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le_alain
By le_alain (3 months ago)

You have lot's of choice for mirorless camera no ?
If this one is not for you, could be for somebody else !

You have a shorter flange and package.
And this one is beautiful with great ergonomy, many will love it
;)

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

companies can only provide what they have. some companies don't have the technology to make a good mirror box so they go mirrorless, like Pana, Samsung, and Fujifilm.

Oly can do mirror box but they had a very badly designed DSLR -- the first "made for digital" which performed worse than those "made for film" and those "messed up for digital" or APS-C DSLRs. so they abandoned it and joined Pana.

Nikon and Pentax can do mirror box, too. but they chose smaller sensors for mirrorless. they really joined the "gang of f-number cheating" to gundown the established cheaters but somehow failed.

Canon is one who entered the market with a real solution (dual-pixel AF was developed before we saw EOS M). but no success yet.

from technical point of view, mirrorless is for better lenses, gives lens designers more freedom with shorter back focus. but many designers don't use it well and currently the advantage is not obvious seen.

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nathondetroit
By nathondetroit (3 months ago)

Body 1: Pro weather-sealed EVF Body marginally smaller than DSLR equivalent
Bodies 2+: Fully compatible with all of your lens investments, but a fraction of the size:)

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T3
By T3 (3 months ago)

Put this camera next to a DSLR and you'll quickly understand: mirrorless cameras that look like DSLRs are still *much* more compact than DSLRs. Why? Because they don't need to be fat enough to accommodate a flapping mirror! Even the "large" mirrorless cameras are still smaller than the smallest DSLRs.

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ondrejbobek
By ondrejbobek (3 months ago)

its not so bad bad idea... one bulky "slr style" body with larger viewfinder and perfect control layout for work and second, much smaller body, just for fun with the same set of lenses.

2 upvotes
RStyga
By RStyga (3 months ago)

One constraint, please. Not the horrific size of Nikon's retro DSLR!

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revio
By revio (3 months ago)

Hmmm...IF Fuji will lauch this camera in a few days, we can be SURE that DPR already knows a lot about it in this very moment I´m writing these words ;-)

They simply have to say "we´re not sure whether Fuji will have anything new to announce..." even though they most certainly DO know what this camera will be like.

It´s ok, just couldn´t help to note...

The new images of it indicates a real beauty is in the pipeline...niiice!

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mikeinak
By mikeinak (3 months ago)

Does anyone know the brand of hand grip shown in the 2nd photo?

Thanks.

I may have found it...HG-X-PRO1?

Comment edited 7 minutes after posting
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The Jacal
By The Jacal (3 months ago)

Fuji, I shouldn't wonder.

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Photographer Jonathan
By Photographer Jonathan (3 months ago)

this camera looks great, but It would be nice if it had a touch screen that will one touch focus and shoot like the OMD, I also wish it had the XE2 popup flash, but it looks like it has no flash so I hope fuji has a very small flash like the one that comes with the OMD, i also wish it had an articulating screen that is useable for portraits, but I know it doesn't, also some better video features like a GH3
, It really seems like no camera company wants to give the people everything in one camera, there is always a left out feature, just like Sony with the A7/A7r, same crappy limited screen that can't be used for portraits, and it's not a touch screen, and you know Sony has the touch screen technology already so it doesn't make sense, and then you have the Nikon DF with no video, 5Dlll no focus assist beam, or flash, no time laps, this fuji XT1 looks great but I know it won't have everything I wish it would have

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Revenant
By Revenant (3 months ago)

I'm happy if a camera lets me control the exposure, shoots raw, has good IQ up to ISO 1600, has a viewfinder and a hotshoe, and is comfortable to hold. Everything else (articulated screen, touchscreen, video, WiFi, GPS, built-in flash etc.) is just a bonus.

7 upvotes
chj
By chj (3 months ago)

touchscreen focusing please

1 upvote
darngooddesign
By darngooddesign (3 months ago)

What will you do when its cold out and you have gloves on?

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Johan Borg
By Johan Borg (3 months ago)

When it's cold out and you have gloves on: Use whatever focusing method this camera already ships with.

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Marathonianbull
By Marathonianbull (3 months ago)

But will it perform better than the rest of the X family with M-Mount lenses?

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Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (3 months ago)

Who cares. You have fuji lenses.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (3 months ago)

Combatmedic:

Good Leica M mount lenses optically best the Fuji X lenses. It's about colour subtlety.

So that's a reason to care.

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

And a reason to have a good relationship with your bank manager!

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RodxE2
By RodxE2 (3 months ago)

Can you elaborate on X family performance with M-Mount lenses? I was about to buy the M-mount adapter.

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northernlightsphotos
By northernlightsphotos (3 months ago)

The original Fuji M-XF mounts works very well.

Shot with Canon 50mm f1.4 LTM
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8075/8272416876_cb522e8d67_c.jpg

Shot with Leica 35 summicron aspherical 6 bit.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5503/11650634806_0300715cb8_h.jpg

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Aleo Veuliah
By Aleo Veuliah (3 months ago)

Well done Fuji.

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historianx
By historianx (3 months ago)

wow! it has... a... HOT SHOE COVER! :) Innovation! ;)

2 upvotes
b craw
By b craw (3 months ago)

I hadn't noticed that - nice!

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arhmatic
By arhmatic (3 months ago)

So far, great!

My 2 cents, Fuji.

- Never go full frame
- Don't go plastic
- Strategize somehow so bodies, lenses too, maintain resale value. My old X-E1 kit, one year old, is only worth half now.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

- Never go full frame, but ISO32 with large aperture lenses
- Don't go plastic, unless high quality as Tamiya
- Strategize somehow for true video, fast AF, and do make some good lenses at competitive cost performance.

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RichRMA
By RichRMA (3 months ago)

The day they start using plastic in any $1000+ cameras is the day to change companies.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

we need metal chassis inside but better plastic outside.
we have thick lacquer coating on metal bodies of mid-range and high-end cameras and lenses. there are different types the bottom line is the finish should not look or feel like metal.

it looks that X-T1 has a thin to medium painting so it may feel like metal, which is not good.

low-end ones have thin coating or metal surface exposed. shinning metal means cheapest crap, like on some high price mirrorless cameras/lenses which is the fashon among the targeted customers.

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inorogNL
By inorogNL (3 months ago)

@RichRMA, my 2 and half year old x100 all metal build has dust & hairs in viewfinder, totaly WORN out metal lugs, no text left on buttons, and "sticky aperture blades"problem, and my plastic lumix Gh2, older than my x100 aside from some minor scratches no issues at all. So Ï'd say - plastic no problem at all!

4 upvotes
RodxE2
By RodxE2 (3 months ago)

Looks interesting, too early to tell if it will replace or be a companion to my E2 which I dearly love, or neither.

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Babka08
By Babka08 (3 months ago)

I love the carefully crafted marketing progression of... rumour... leak... preview... then, wait for it... full review. And the entire time, DPR has the camera sitting on a desk in their head office. Savvy.

That's a lot of dials if you like dials. Kind of 1960's Beechcraft cockpit. They'll probably kick hard at the nf and em1 and maybe even the nex alpha whatever they're called now.

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viking79
By viking79 (3 months ago)

My guess is DPR has non-disclosure agreements with Fuji, so they can't leak info about the beautiful camera sitting on their desk without risk of losing access to future models, but for news they can report others leaking info about it. So I wouldn't think of it as marketing savvy.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (3 months ago)

He means Fuji is playing games, not DPR who have agreed not to disclose anything more than Fuji wants them to. But this is fine; it's a short "tease" not months of pure photography.

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Kfrog
By Kfrog (3 months ago)

"pure photography". Chuckle!

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Babka08
By Babka08 (3 months ago)

Of course they have a non-disclosure agreement. But in a very real way DPR is more powerful than Fuji when it comes to new digital camera public relations/marketing (and the grey cloud that surrounds both). Fuji is probably more interested in not screwing it up with DPR than the other way around.

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Frank C.
By Frank C. (3 months ago)

I wonder how good the AF tracking is? because there is a difference between "AF-tracking" and "trying to AF-track"

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WT21
By WT21 (3 months ago)

I can't imagine there is any breakthrough yet, especially from Fuji, who hasn't been leading the AF pack, IMO. I think this release is more about the EVF, dials, and ergos (grip, a body that can handle a proper flash, etc.). However, if they do have a breakthrough in AF tracking, that would be something. Would love to see it.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

Sony should hurry up their development, either a high speed imager or dual-pixel AF.

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viking79
By viking79 (3 months ago)

AF tracking on mirrorless is something different, on Fuji it works very well for focus/recompose. Start the tracking anywhere on the models face and move the camera around and the focus point remains on the same feature. For sports shots, use AF-S mode and depress shutter fully and first shot is usually in focus.

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Woodlink
By Woodlink (3 months ago)

I think a good barometer of this unit's ability to track focus would be to compare it to the (still very relevant) Canon 7D.

In fact, perhaps I'll do just that and post some results.

Hmmm...

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

D300 is my standard (the nearest one now is D7100) but Fuji have to compete with m4/3" first which I consider as the only mirrorless good enough for practical use.

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technotic
By technotic (3 months ago)

You don't trust Sony yab so why would you care about what they do?

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

Something gets lost in the translation between Japan and here. Only Olympus is good for "practical use"? I'll alert Fuji at once to recall their cameras as a humanitarian gesture. Geez...I HOPE it's a translation issue...he can't possibly MEAN what he says...D300 is his "standard", yet he's a Canonite..."af dual pixel tech whizz bang, Canon's child like engineers in the sandbox" etc. Maybe he's a gameshow host?

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Frank C.
By Frank C. (3 months ago)

vs the Nikon D3300 at 1/3 the price and /w 1/2 more res.... hmm....

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

No controls, pathetically small VF, no weather-sealing, slow shooting... not the same class, not even close. Sony A3000 compares to D3300 - at half the price. ;)

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

it's good to start with Nikon DX with a small number of DX lenses and with a vision to move to FX if not from the begining.

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Marla2008
By Marla2008 (3 months ago)

Most people seem to overlook this dude's most proeminent feature, a HUGE EVF that is specified higher than the ones in both the Sony A7 and (better yet) the Oly E-M1. That, alone, is worth looking at that model with a lot of consideration. Not to mention the well implemented manual controls, tastefully done Retro styling (which I'm normally not fond of, being a NEX7 lover), lovely lens line-up, and great Fuji IQ.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

truly, this one is too good to be dismissed!!

but what to do I just bought GX7 :))

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The Jacal
By The Jacal (3 months ago)

Don't feed the troll.

1 upvote
RezaTravilla
By RezaTravilla (3 months ago)

ugly........

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cordellwillis
By cordellwillis (3 months ago)

You started with digital?

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dougster1979
By dougster1979 (3 months ago)

Harsh!!

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57even
By 57even (3 months ago)

Just not as ugly as most other cameras on the market.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

love needs no reason.

1 upvote
Five Piece
By Five Piece (3 months ago)

blah-blah-blah...

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

Then change your icon pic ;-P

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SalmanH
By SalmanH (3 months ago)

Iphone photographer?

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SummitJim
By SummitJim (3 months ago)

Ugly is in the eye of the beholder. I have digital Nikons, but the camera whose look I like best is my vintage Minolta SRT-102. Just my taste.

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (3 months ago)

And no more shutter lag than a 1Ds MkII or D800, and FULL WEATHERSEALING on the body and ALL lenses, but sorry, I must be dreaming...

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munro harrap
By munro harrap (3 months ago)

Is it still a half-frame sensor? that IS the question

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AndreaV
By AndreaV (3 months ago)

Why "that IS the question"? I would say that a more appropriate question is "how IS the IQ", just to name one... and if it's in line with the x-pro1 it's high enough to compete with most FF out there. So why should I pay more for a bigger sensor and bigger lenses? Do you complain also that the D800 is still a full frame and not a MF like the Phase One?
By the way, no, it's not a half-frame sensor, it's a 2/3-frame sensor.

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WT21
By WT21 (3 months ago)

Fuji does not offer a "half-frame sensor". That is m43, if you mean 1/2 of 135 format.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

40%-frame sensor. More than enough for 99% of people.

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darngooddesign
By darngooddesign (3 months ago)

How is it to use and what kind of photos does it take are the questions.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

4/3" is half-half frame (110 format).

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The Customer
By The Customer (3 months ago)

110 is, at 13x17mm, smaller than 35mm half-frame, which is typically 18x24mm. :)

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SalmanH
By SalmanH (3 months ago)

Really? Is that the question? Wow!

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revio
By revio (3 months ago)

@yabokkie:

(M)4/3 is a fourth of the area of a FF (24x36mm), not half of it!

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

> not half of it!

of course I know 4/3" is worse.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (3 months ago)

revio:

(And I hate defending yabokkie.) Half of half is a quarter.

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

Yeah, you're dreaming. Wake up. Awesome photos have been taken with aps-c, m43, compacts, old film cameras, Holgas, smartphones. It's all about the guy/girl using it. As a "widely published" photographer you would/should know that.http://www.leefrost.co.uk/hipstamatic.asp

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Akos Kozari
By Akos Kozari (3 months ago)

Based on the specification it will be a great tool to compose our pictures. FF vs APS-C? Fuji creates great IQ with APS-C, proper for work, proper for hobby. I prefer the smaller size. Fuji is on a good path.

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Petrus Magnus
By Petrus Magnus (3 months ago)

I really like the classical direct controls, including aperture ring on the lens, as with previous Fuji X-models. If it has IBIS, like Olympus OM-D E-M1, it would be a very interesting camera. (If, in addition, it were FF--wow!) Pity about the viewfinder losing its off-centre position, so that nose print and exhaled vapour (particularly in cold weather) will now end up on rear panel. It doesn't matter for "left-eyers", I know, but for the rest of us it makes quite a difference. I suppose offsetting such a commendably large but thus necessarily protruding viewfinder would be an aesthetical gamble, and the ISO knob would have to move.

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andy amos
By andy amos (3 months ago)

Love the looks! Love the dials, Love the size! But could I love the price and battery life, hmm?

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EasyClick
By EasyClick (3 months ago)

The remnant of the old pentaprism design looks too artificial for me. Personally, I prefer the rangefinder retro style with an optical viewfinder from the X-Pro1. It still is a beautiful design. I would have preferred a new and improved weather sealed X-Pro1. If you have to go pentaprism design, better make it full frame like Sony did to justify the added weight and size.

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Gehyra
By Gehyra (3 months ago)

I still have an old Fujifilm S2 pro, although now it is gathering dust; In its day I loved the Fujifilm colours; Many folks predicted the death of Fujifilm as a credible camera manufacturer, but I see them rising proudly from the ashes with a diversity of cameras that are functional objects of beauty. I presently own a D7000 but this XT-1 is seriously tempting- having grown up shooting with Pentax MX and Oly OM-1 cameras (cause I'm old) I see this dark beast, albeit a small, functional beast, this is an object of lust; the small size, the "familiar" controls- this thing makes me breath funny, in a sort of creepy way. I'll dream of this camera.. There are doubtlessly other capable cameras out there, but this nails the aesthetics and control layout in a compact body. I want one.

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robbo d
By robbo d (3 months ago)

clearly you have some issues.............
But I will accept that my first response was that its one damn fine looking camera, reminiscent of old Fujica's?
A far better rendition of design than Oly's recent offerings, fine cameras they are im sure.

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Coliban
By Coliban (3 months ago)

Yes, indeed, a beautiful camera!

It is Nikons duty(!) to build the next camera in a *compact* SLR-Style, mirror less and FF. As a Nikon fan-boy, i can claim it (;-). Nikons effort to accomplish this is much less expensive then Fuji efforts for a FF mirror less camera. Besides that, all lenses exists already, so i only need to acquire (and they "only" need to build) the body.

(Ok, maybe it is not serious, but let me dream a little bit :-).

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HubertChen
By HubertChen (3 months ago)

What am I missing? The X-T1 has the viewfinder in middle of the camera, which is ergonomically bad, as now my nose is colliding with the display. The previous X-Models have the viewfinder in the corner of he camera, which is way better.

Other then than the bad placement of the EVF, what is the difference?

And do not get me wrong. I love the Fuji X-Cameras. They are very well designed and work like a charm. Just do not see the excitement of bad placement of the EVF and why to create a new camera family? If they want to increase sales, work on cost down of the wonderful X-Gestalt.

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aymeric
By aymeric (3 months ago)

Some people DO actually like the viewfinder at the middle of the camera (i'm left-eyed) so that's great to add it to the line.
other improvements: weather-sealed, new controls layout, but I agree it's mostly form-factor.

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oluv
By oluv (3 months ago)

i look with my left eye through the viewfinder, so would need it to be at the right side, therefore i don't really care if it is in the center or right or left.

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AndreaV
By AndreaV (3 months ago)

Weather sealing maybe? To compete with the Oly...
As for the EVF... it's placed where it is placed in any SLR. Probably since I always used my left eye to look inside the camera I don't see any issue with that.

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tommy leong
By tommy leong (3 months ago)

you got a GOOD point there.
if its NOT an optical view finder
surely they could make better use of its placement

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leonche64
By leonche64 (3 months ago)

Does not look to be in the middle from here. Top photo shows the drive select and the flash sync. The second photo shows room for the focus lamp as well as a protruding grip. The EVF is offset to the left like every other camera.

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Marla2008
By Marla2008 (3 months ago)

The difference is the massively improved EVF !!! Larger, flip screen, better dial implementation. The EVF alone might be worth the upgrade...

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WT21
By WT21 (3 months ago)

I found the XE series to be too much on the edge/not protected enough from incidental/outdoors light. This looks like a much better EVF placement in terms of blocking in coming light.

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Optical1
By Optical1 (3 months ago)

I couldn't disagree with you more. To me, there is no better place for a viewfinder than in line with the lens.

Is it different? Yes. Is it "bad"? Surely not.

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b craw
By b craw (3 months ago)

Perhaps your nose is too big. [winky face]

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Heyseuss Hoolio
By Heyseuss Hoolio (3 months ago)

I think it's great. No it's not "full frame" but you'll still get excellent pictures. It's main purpose would be to mount an endless supply of non-native mount lenses to it with adapters and/or speed boosters.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

yeap .. and its high iso images are cleaner than many fullframes!! speadbooster will take it to another level!!

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

> you'll still get excellent pictures.

excellent at 1.3 stops lower quality
in low light or adequate light.

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WT21
By WT21 (3 months ago)

@naveed -- which new model full frame cameras is the X cleaner at high ISO?

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

not only high ISO but all ISOs. actually things get hopeless at base ISO for no lens can come to help.

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

Base iso is just fine yab. Ask any Fuji USER. Back to the canonite forums for you.

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Sessility
By Sessility (3 months ago)

I'd say for many people its main purpose will be to use the ever-increasing line-up of excellent Fuji lenses, most of which can easily hold their own against e.g. Canon L series lenses from my pixel-peeping comparisons.

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babalu
By babalu (3 months ago)

As said before, there is going to be a run for this Kiddo. It's an Hattori Hanzo camera .
:)

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JT_FD
By JT_FD (3 months ago)

Clearly pitched against the OMD, then. Just hope they've sorted out focus. I love my X-Pro 1s, but focus in even middling light is weak and AF of moving targets is not worth trying. So still using the big DSLR for sports and concerts.

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Ale1210
By Ale1210 (3 months ago)

The X-T1 will share (rumors say) the same 16MP X-Trans II sensor as the X100S and X-E2, both claiming a focusing time reduction to one third when compared with the X100 and X-E1. This shall possibly fix your issue.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

Fuji claim its the fastest af!! how fast it is in low light is a ?

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WT21
By WT21 (3 months ago)

I've seen a number of folks say it's pitched against the OMD. I think rather it's just a darn strong offering. It's competing against most everything for stills -- a7, OMD, 6D, D610, Df (also competes against the X2 and XPro1). Not sure I'll get it, as I'd lose a lot of money selling my 6D, but it's a very nice entry in general.

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darngooddesign
By darngooddesign (3 months ago)

A camera released two years after the X-Pro will probably have much better autofocus.

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

There is always something "better" further down the line. Don't wait...get one and take pictures with it! Bugger the specs sheet, that won't help! ("take pictures now"..yeah i know , wierd, but what the hell) ;-)

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mr.izo
By mr.izo (3 months ago)

this is not ff camera right? not so good idea, if you ask me..
sorry for repeating ff mantra, didn't see comments bellow.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

it is not meant to be a ff .. and it doesn't need to be for any reason!!

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AndreaV
By AndreaV (3 months ago)

Good idea, instead, most of all if I look the size of a ff 35mm f1.4 (Nikon, Canon, Sigma) compared to the excellent fuji 35mm f1.4.
From IQ point of view my Xpro1 is not worse than most ff out there and, honestly, the DOF of a f1.4 lens on crop factor is much more than enough for most uses.

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PatMann
By PatMann (3 months ago)

Full frame requires big bulky lenses. I want a compact, lightweight system, and I need APS-C for the long reach for wildlife without spending for monster exotics. Fuji doesn't have a long lens yet, but what's that out there on the roadmap? No hint on the focal range yet. I'll still have my D800 and a couple of lenses for those things I used to use medium format for, but this looks perfect for my everyday shooting. And it has an APS-C lens lineup that puts Nikon APS-C to shame.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

well said AndreaV!

at that focal lenght and apperture you get more than enough Dof control. I wouldn't mind a 35mm f/1.4 over a Nikon CX (1" sensor). Slightly deeper dof is better and easier to handle and get whole subject in focus. Specially if the subject is size of a human, smaller subjects would be even more difficult like pets to insects etc.

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darngooddesign
By darngooddesign (3 months ago)

FF is for consumers, medium format is where its at. :D

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

MF? $$$, slow, awkward. Awesome IQ, but again $$$. FF? Wow, suddenly everyone NEEDS 2cm DOF. All the time?

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David0X
By David0X (3 months ago)

Why are people hung up about this "Oh, it must be Full Frame to be pro" crap?

35mm is totally arbitrary - based on the movie film , and remember, it used to Be called "miniature format" because it was so small. Roll film was small too. Quarter Plate was small before that... jeeze. Why was Half Plate called "Half Plate"? See if you can guess.

Unless you have an SLR (optical viewfinder limited by sensor size - no, not Fuji X) or a whole bunch of legacy glass (Nikon, Canon yes, Fuji X no) then there is no reason to bang on about "Full Frame" being pro.

Want a big sensor? Get a Phase One for goodness' sake.

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JWest
By JWest (3 months ago)

Wow, if even full frame used to be considered too small, I guess I need at least full frame - anything less must be *way* too small!

Seriously though, what point are you making? The bigger the sensor, the more light it collects. End of story. Full frame is an arbitrary point on the size scale, sure. So is APS-C or m4/3. If you're making out that size doesn't matter at all, just pop over to Connect and join everyone shooting with their cellphone.

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BarnET
By BarnET (3 months ago)

Dude there is much bigger gap between Apsc and cellphone that there is between FF and Apsc.

Of course fullframe gets in more light. But have fun carrying a fullframe on your back the whole day on vacation. i just have a small shoulderbag which houses all the lenses i need.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

well said BarnET .. I normally use my jacket pocket to carry three lenses .. and one on the camera. an extreme wide angle, a fast tele and two primes in the middle!! and they are feather light and lightning fast (focus) for my use!! and am talking here about 4/3 standard APSC (even with a name crop in it) is quite bigger, but it looks, still not enough for Dof freaks!!

JWest .. it's the end result that matters to me, not how much extra light coming into my camera shell. Leave that academics to your PhD thesis and accept the reality mate!! I would only consider carrying additional weight of FF or medium format if i will feel a real need of it in my application, not just how many photons its grabbing!!

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Dave Oddie
By Dave Oddie (3 months ago)

"Seriously though, what point are you making? The bigger the sensor, the more light it collects. End of story. Full frame is an arbitrary point on the size scale, sure. So is APS-C or m4/3. If you're making out that size doesn't matter at all, just pop over to Connect and join everyone shooting with their cellphone."

The point is if an aps-c sensor gives good enough image quality that is all that matters. The fact smart phones don't does't mean aps-c cameras don't either.

One day we may end up with small sensors delivering all the image quality we ever need and making a full frame sensor using the same technology to get even better quality will be a waste of time. Are we at this point now? No but for some people aps-c is easily good enough and FF overkill already.

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AlexRuiz
By AlexRuiz (3 months ago)

BarnET, the whole argument about full frame lenses being too big and bulky is blown way out of proportion. I carry my D600 wih a 24mm f2.8D, a 50mm f1.4D, and an 85mm f1.8D. These lenses are not that much bigger than the fuji or M4/3 counterparts. I carry one on the camera and the other two in my coat pockets. And don't forget that fuji and others will require you to bring extra batteries, as they tend to run out rather quickly. The sillyest thing ever are the folks who praise mirrorless cameras for their light weight and smaller size, THEN go out there and purchase battery grips, thumb grips, and other parafanelia, essentially bulking-up/DSLR'ing their prized posessions (<= this comment will probably offend more than a few; oops). To each their own I say. Don't get me wrong though. Most likely I will get this X-T1 (when the price comes down) I just hope I don't get disapointed as I did with the OMD-EM5.

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JWest
By JWest (3 months ago)

Just as full-frame is an arbitrary size, not some magical point where suddenly you're a pro, exactly the same thing can be said about APS-C, or any other sensor size. Just because ASP-C is the sweet spot for you, doesn't mean it is for everyone.

Some people want something smaller than a DSLR, so m4/3 is the sweet spot. For others, it has to be pocketable, therefore a compact. Still others can't be bothered to carry a camera at all, and consider their cellphone quite good enough. For others, they need the low-light performance and DOF control that you can only get with full frame.

This whole backlash against full-frame is just silly. You choose the tools you need to get the job done.

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Alessandro Di Sciascio
By Alessandro Di Sciascio (3 months ago)

AlexRuiz,

I hear what you're saying but if you really believe that you're not really comparing apples to apples.

I'm shedding all my Nikon Gear having bought an X-E2 ... the size/weight difference is IMMENSE. Even the diminutive D7000 is ridiculously large by comparison, let alone my favored D800.

The lenses, even the primes are bigger. No they might not be 10 times bigger, but when the equivalent prime lens is 1" longer, 1" thicker and weighs anywhere from 150% to 220% of the X lens ... and then you add the body the difference becomes extremely noticeable... and I speak as an owner of both lines.

Heck I still haven't sold my Rokinion (bower/samyang) DX 8mm fisheye for Nikon and I compared it to my newly acquired Bower 8mm fisheye for X ... whoa! And they're BOTH for DX format systems.

For a silly comparsion try the upcoming 56 1.2 (85mm equiv X lens) against Canon's 85 1.2 L ;)

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KonstantinosK
By KonstantinosK (3 months ago)

So, basically, you can have a camera with an x-trans censor in a body with an hybrid viewfinder, in a body with an hybrid viewfinder but with fixed lens, in a body with an electronic viewfinder, in a body with no viewfinder at all, and now in a body with an electronic viewfinder in a different position. I feel a bit it's the same camera, recycled all over again, with updated tweaks. I don't see why this should me more exciting than the X-Pro1.

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Ocolon
By Ocolon (3 months ago)

It's more exciting than the X-Pro1 for those who want a really big, bright EVF, a dedicated ISO dial or a weather sealed body. The X-Pro1 is certainly more exciting for those who prefer a rangefinder styled camera and an optical viewfinder, too.

What's wrong with having different options? I don't think anybody driving a hatchback is hurt when the car company also offers a sedan, a station wagon and a convertible car with the same engine inside. At least unless we aren't talking about pure luxury and status items whose value is largely based on exclusiveness and not on usability and performance.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

its not an other Fuji X-camera. Please see the specs and compare it with X-E2.

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PatMann
By PatMann (3 months ago)

This camera is for a completely different market than the rest of the X-cameras. This is an approach to the top-of-the-line action-shooting camera in mirrorless form, complete with battery pack to give it a full day's worth of shooting. And it has a plan for a lens lineup complete enough to take it seriously. This camera, with its full range of wide-angle primes, has the potential to seriously challenge Nikon and Canon APS-C systems.

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Kali108
By Kali108 (3 months ago)

To Cane and others who "just don't get it"...as a D800 owner and daily Canon 5d3 user at work...I will be getting a X-T1 asap. Not the right camera for everyone, but the utter inability of people to judge a camera based on its own merits never ceases to amaze me.

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ebbo
By ebbo (3 months ago)

It's a deal breaker lol

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Cane
By Cane (3 months ago)

Pretty, but probably can't af on a moving object yet. I'd take less time spent on the outside for marketing purposes and more time on the inside, for photographic purposes.

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Raist3d
By Raist3d (3 months ago)

How would you know

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

one will probably spend more time on the outside for obviously the controls are not designed for practical use (things will prove if all can be reprogrammed).

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

one will probably spend more time on the outside for obviously the controls are not designed for practical use (things will prove if all can be reprogrammed).

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

For the AF/moving object http://www.oscarsson.dk/blog/?p=1205 And the innards (for photographic purposes) of the X series have received unanimous praise around the world. Except for forums of course! Funny places aren't they? Yes you can find people who'll disagree with anything here! Even putting things like shutter speed, aperture & iso right in front of your eyes baffles some. Not photographers though. After spending time with some pros (& a couple of awesome enthusiasts) It became obvious to me that the sorts of arguments/ideas found here are conspicuous by their absence with those guys/girls. Curious. Although the 5D mk3 guy ran into Batman and Bugs Bunny at the modern dslr costume store!

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technotic
By technotic (3 months ago)

Two posts for the price of one now yab? Still saying this camera is not practical eh? Your ususl nonsense. Did you find out if it's MF yet?

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Johannes Zander
By Johannes Zander (3 months ago)

@Ranford
read the blog. He says:
"Some times you have to prefocus and wait for the subject to reach the focus area..."
That's how I shot with my Leica M camera.
But this X-T1 could be better if they not just repackaged the electronics of the E series.

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

Same with the people I know who use dslrs. I have one friend who often goes to Philip Island for the Moto GP bike races and will pre focus to get it right. Seems to be the way to go.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

for motor sports, all images will be blurred using slow shutters but AF is still needed if the lane is not a circle around you.

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Paul Farace
By Paul Farace (3 months ago)

I went crazy and left my wife for that whore Df from Nikon... thankfully my wife took me back when I saw that the Df was not who she claimed to be... now this siren comes calling at my door. Think l'll sell the kids to the Taliban to get one.... if it's not another pig in a poke.

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Cane
By Cane (3 months ago)

You should hit a thrift shop for 1970's garb to complete the costume when you are out shooting.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

as soon as you get one, it will make you two wives and double children each time you press the shutter hard.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

hehe .. lol @yabokkie

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John Roy
By John Roy (3 months ago)

I will consider this, given I'm fed up waiting for a Nikon D400. And the lack of a mirror is a bonus if the EVF is good enough. I await reports with interest.

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Esign
By Esign (3 months ago)

Fully agree. Just sold my four cameras, twenty lens Nikon system to make a new start. The X-T1 in on my short list.

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Der Steppenwolf
By Der Steppenwolf (3 months ago)

Same here, sold D7000 and D700 and all but one lens. That one is out for sale as well. Waiting and weighing between Sony and Fuji. Nikon and Canon have gotten to big to bother with us customers.

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RichRMA
By RichRMA (3 months ago)

You can't compare these mirror-less cameras against Nikon and Canon DSLR's, because they will lose. If Nikon and Canon hadn't treated mirror-less like camera lepers, there would be something to compare them all to.

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deep7
By deep7 (3 months ago)

Lose what? Canon lost my business to a "mirrorless" competitor very recently...

I did like my Canon though. It just doesn't suit me as well.

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venancio
By venancio (3 months ago)

what if Nikon decides to go full frame with the Nikon 1, or just test the waters with a Nikon 1 APS C? wouldn't this eat up its DSLR world? imagine if the Df was mirrorless and designed to be the D700 successor, or a mirrorless with D800S guts, ooohh, what a world this would have been... could have stopped Kelby to do the walk....

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Zoron
By Zoron (3 months ago)

Fujifilm FF in 2 years ? compete with D900 n 5DmkIV

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RichRMA
By RichRMA (3 months ago)

Uh...no. As a still camera, maybe. Otherwise, forget it.

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deep7
By deep7 (3 months ago)

"FF" is so arbitrary as a format. The ideal for most is smaller. Fuji are doing very well right where they are.

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venancio
By venancio (3 months ago)

i'd love a Fuji full frame this year... I wonder why Fuji fans fear that an XFF full frame product line would jeopardize the continuous development of the X series APS C product line... I mean both can co exist and share R and D breakthroughs...

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

or 1.3 stops smaller f-numbers, like Sigma 18-35/1.8.

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

Hi venancio, could you please explain why you want XFF?

Also please try to avoid abstract level response, that it will get more light, or bigger means better. Would like to know, how it helps you as a photographer or Fuji as a manufacturer!!

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venancio
By venancio (3 months ago)

it's a feel thing, or maybe a soul thing, the way I prefer steel string guitar to a nylon string guitar, or blue denims to corduroys... maybe because Nikon's DX intrinsic guts are not built and honed like the FX guts... and if the hardware in your hand is the one that your mind has been lusting for and the feel is there, then the world becomes a different place... and as for how it will affect Fuji, a full frame X body will have the same impact to the photography world as the X100 did when it was first unveiled... I want a Fuji full frame, I'm jealous of Fuji's attention to APS C's - it's love, it's innovations, it's artistry.... i'm just a jealous guy...

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Ranford Stealth
By Ranford Stealth (3 months ago)

@venancio...ah yes the soul thing. I agree about that, and THAT'S why I love the Fujis , starting with the X100. I thought this was only available to wealthy Leica swine, but the X100 solved that. I seldom use my Nikons now (but will if i need them). I just find the dslrs curiously soul-less and dry. The X100 felt so much more involving and an extension of me. Not unlike some car enthusiasts who despise driving assists and prefer more connection with the car.

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JDThomas
By JDThomas (3 months ago)

@Ranford Stealth: Wealthy Leica swine? There are lots of people that own Leicas that aren't wealthy. Hell, I own 3 of them and I'm not even close to being rich. So somehow having the ability to manage my money and save to buy a camera makes me "swine" to you?

It's rude and quite disrespectful to make sweeping generalizations of people because of the equipment they own.

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Zoron
By Zoron (3 months ago)

So X-T1 is as pro as it gets ?...or will they come up with a APS-C full body grip?.....if fuji want to step it up their next pro model hv to be FF right.....?

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Naveed Akhtar
By Naveed Akhtar (3 months ago)

no .. it should excel further on what they have already achieved and build!! Sony is already tuning its FF mirrorless..

otherwise it would be too many half-cooked camera systems...

I would rather want Fuji to enhance its focusing, Raw conversion and metering and implement full feature Wifi. Or even a basic IBIS would help, a build in ND filter would be good if possible, slightly bigger hand-grip and better video implementation. Fuji is impressive where it stands now but there is a room to improve in this system!

I am not necessarily interested in improvements on sensor or even to a lesser extend in lenses ... more in the camera system as a whole!!

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Aroart
By Aroart (3 months ago)

Lets hope Fuji put a 5 axis image stabilizing sensor, 1080 60 p , articulating screen.there new s1 has them.. Oh and maybe surprise us all with being full frame. Fuji image quality has been smoking the competition for stills.. Now they need to focus more on making them shoot for higher end pros and bumping up video quality. Oh and yes 16 mp is fine...anything more than 24 is a pain in there arrrrssss.....

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roweraay
By roweraay (3 months ago)

It has an 18-55 lens on it, which pretty much rules out a FF

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jtan163
By jtan163 (3 months ago)

5 Axis stabilisation would rock. But I doubt it - they've just spent money developing in lense tech.
In body makes sooo much sense for mirror less where the likelihood of adapted lenses - especially with a camera at this level i .e. not base consumer.

I'd love to see 60p as well - I find it hard to understand why any camera company would not go 60p in their enthusiast and up level cameras.

I can't afford a X-T1 and lenses - but I'm really trying to work out how I might make one happen anyway.

It's such a practical design in my eyes from the control perspective and the XTrans is such a nice sensor and Fuji make beautiful lenses. And the size. OK bigger than my EM5 but still eminently reasonable.

I also hope a good range of fast zooms emerges or Sigma start building x-mounts. Something 8-16, f/2.8 or f/4 16-35f/1.8 and maybe 35-150 f/2 (should be much bigger than a 70-200 f/2.8) would be nice.

I'll keep dreaming on the lenses and the budget.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (3 months ago)

50-150/2 should be about the same size as 70-200/2.8.
it's a bit longer (narrower field) but
a bit slower (less light gathering capacity).

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crwl
By crwl (3 months ago)

X-E2 already has 1080p60 video so this surely has too.

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