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By dpreview staff on Jan 18, 2014 at 02:48 GMT
Pentax K-3 - Winner: Best DSLR / SLT of 2013
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Pentax K-3 - Winner: Best DSLR / SLT of 2013

The Pentax K-3 was an early front-runner in this poll, and blazed through to a convincing victory, garnering an impressive 31.4% of the total vote. The capable, innovative K-3 was your pick for best DSLR/SLT of 2013 by a landslide. 

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Comments

Total comments: 64
VENTURE-STAR
By VENTURE-STAR (3 months ago)

Marty, if there was a charge for visiting a site like DPR, I simply wouldn't bother and I generally take no notice of advertising on any site, or manage to block it.

The problem with advertising is that is has the potential to distort the value of products and the bottom line is that manufacturers and pretty much every other business is only interested in generating profit. Therefore the motives of holding a poll that suggests it is the carefully considered opinion of a wide public audience is very questionable.

It's all too common to see ads displaying car of the year, fridge of the year or holiday deal of the year as if it's some kind of factual statement rather like government statistics that are generally way off the mark in the real world.

If this poll was simply aimed at followers of this site, it would need to be wider in scope, ask for any additional equipment to be taken into account and not concentrate on brand new kit that relatively few of us have any experience with.

0 upvotes
VENTURE-STAR
By VENTURE-STAR (3 months ago)

I don't entirely disagree with you duckling. However, all the practical concerns are important, because equipment needs to be fit for purpose and reliable. These products are expensive and I might well consider the camera of 2013, to be a cheap Canon DSLR or the Panasonic LX7. Some of the items in this poll like the Sigma lens are unlikely to make better photographers of any average user. Nice to hang around your neck and show off as jewellery but not really needed to produce a range of good work. What does concern me is that the information provided in this poll, will simply be used by the companies in question for advertising purposes and therefore of little genuine use to DPR readers.

0 upvotes
Marty4650
By Marty4650 (3 months ago)

Let's assume you are right when you say "the information will be used by companies for advertising purposes."

Why is this a bad thing?
Why do you assume there will be no benefit for Dpreview users?

This website is supported by advertisers. There is no subscription fee for us to pay. Everything we like seeing here is paid for by companies who advertise their wares.

If a company advertises "Camera X won the Dpreview poll for best product of the year" that statement cannot possibly harm the users here. Assuming that camera actually won, it will be a truthful statement, that tells potential buyers "this is a popular camera."

I think your concerns are ill founded.

You probably need to find a website that charges you $19.99 a month and bans all advertising, so you won't have to worry about advertising and it's negative affects. If there actually are any.

0 upvotes
VENTURE-STAR
By VENTURE-STAR (3 months ago)

How can the average DPReview reader do any more than accept the findings of this site's reviewers (for these products), or comments from other Internet sources? I've certainly not had the chance to test any of these cameras or lenses and do not own any of them. I might think that these cameras look pretty, and probably perform well, but I could easily be unhappy about the price or availability of accessories or chipped batteries. I might also find the company's after sales service second rate - which is not unusual these days. Really, this is not the right way to go about doing a fair polll that has any value or meaning. It needs to be hands-on and retrospective.

Let me add that I have no appreciation for DPR for wasting their time and space on something as stupid as this.

1 upvote
duckling
By duckling (3 months ago)

You must be an engineer :)
There is more to photography (and the gear involved) than those practical concerns. Given you have not handled any of the options, just select the item which catches your imagination, the one that may best serve your art.
Personally, I don't trust "best of" polls either. They are largely meaningless when it comes to devices with a human-machine interface (due to subjectivity). I am skeptical about the value of popularity as a measure of quality. My experience tells me not to trust the wisdom of the crowd. Nevertheless, this is a fun little poll. It's harmless. To be honest I voted in order to view the distribution of the votes rather than to express my opinion.

2 upvotes
anthony mazzeri
By anthony mazzeri (3 months ago)

I still dispute the misleading notion the X100s should even be in the 'compact' category in the first place. It's even bigger than an m4/3 camera like the GX7, or even the OM-D body without the prism. Compact is not even a relative term for 'smallish' open to interpretation - the very least definition of a compact camera is shirt-pocketable, which the X100s is most certainly not by any stretch of the imagination.

2 upvotes
highwave
By highwave (3 months ago)

I don't see why all the negativity on this comment board.

Basically Dpreview made previous Polls that categorized photography products pretty well (Best SLR, Best Mirrorless, Best Lens..) for all those who want that categorization they can go there and check it out.

This one particular poll does serve a purpose. It, in a way, reveals future camera industry tends. So far from the polls it seems consumers really want fast zooms (a la Sigma F1.8), prefer better camera features over sensor size (Pentax K3 beating FF SLRs and E-M1 beating Sony A7) and mirrorless seems to be the future trend (EM-5 winning last year and E-M1 seems to have it in the bag this year).

I really wish people would show more appreciation to Dpreview for making such a poll instead of whining. If you don't like it don't read it. Having said that, it is actually clear why people whine. Just because your Nikon D7100, or your Sony A7r, or whatever make or brand didn't make it you shouldn't act like a child about it.

Comment edited 8 minutes after posting
1 upvote
Photomino
By Photomino (3 months ago)

Unfortunately is the best camera of the year not included in this poll..

0 upvotes
Daedbird
By Daedbird (3 months ago)

Time to feed the troll....which camera would that be?

Certainly not the Df....
I am guessing that you mean the A7. Well the A7 is certainly a bellwether product. Something that will likely change Sony's whole lineup and push mirror less even further.
Or maybe it won't.
With all its accolades, and it is a fine camera, the A7 twins are the beginning of a new line, and really, there are few lens offerings that directly take advantage of its sensor. The Olympus is the flagship of a completely mature M43 lineup, and is ultimately where that system was heading. It has the lenses, and has the capabilities that satisfy its users.

And my pick, the K3, is simply the best APSc camera on the market today. Not that the Canon 70d is a slouch, it has an innovative live view focusing system. But its sensor close, but not as good. The AF systems for stills seem equal (it is shocking, but believe me, its true). Meanwhile the Pentax smokes the D7100 on FPS and other details.

1 upvote
VENTURE-STAR
By VENTURE-STAR (3 months ago)

Not sure what the point of this very restricted poll is. Who will benefit from it? Maybe the advertising companies promoting these products, but I really can't see any point in voting.

1 upvote
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (3 months ago)

You must be fun at parties.

2 upvotes
Marty4650
By Marty4650 (3 months ago)

You always have to remember that this is a poll taken among a group of camera enthusiasts, and not one taken from a large group of mass market users.

If we polled them, then an Apple iPhone might win. And a Canon digital rebel might be the first runner up. Products made by Fuji, Pentax or Olympus might not even make the "top 100."

0 upvotes
Gran Buhre
By Gran Buhre (3 months ago)

GX 7

2 upvotes
backayonder
By backayonder (3 months ago)

Maybe the "I wish" and"I want it's" could get together and strike up a deal or two..

0 upvotes
Jorginho
By Jorginho (3 months ago)

With 6619 votes and Oly at 33,1% and the nr2 at 20,0% we already know EM1 is the winner...

0 upvotes
bluevellet
By bluevellet (3 months ago)

Yeah, but I find it interesting how the Fuji is catching up to the Pentax for the battle for second place. On the first day of the poll, the Pentax zoomed passed the Fuji, but I guess the pool of Pentax users/fans has run dry while the fairly massive Fuji fanbase is slowly turning out to vote

0 upvotes
duckling
By duckling (3 months ago)

bluevellet,
Must be an organized campaign of some sort. Not that it matters much.

Comment edited 2 times, last edit 1 minute after posting
1 upvote
Morpho Hunter
By Morpho Hunter (3 months ago)

Similar claims were made last when the E-M5 won. I suspected Oly was onto a winner when I first handled that camera at Focusing on Imaging Show (Birmingham, UK). The Olympus E-M5 stand was right next to the Nikon D800 stand .. and when the Olympus floor show started ...several of the guys running the Nikon stand came over to have a look at/handle the camera. One wonders just what will Olympus market that will take the winner's title for a third year running ....(well, who would bet against them doing it?)

0 upvotes
justinwonnacott
By justinwonnacott (3 months ago)

For myself,these polls are about as lame as "what the duck". Oooof ...

8 upvotes
backayonder
By backayonder (3 months ago)

Add the D400 to a "You Wish " option and the results would be interesting.

0 upvotes
GREG HUTCHINS
By GREG HUTCHINS (3 months ago)

I like these polls mainly for the readers comments I find them very amusing.

11 upvotes
aerorail
By aerorail (3 months ago)

no need to vote
all you have to do is look at the 'own it' number and thats your winner
olympus? really?

by time this poll is over the products here will be discontinued

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
2 upvotes
MarkByland
By MarkByland (3 months ago)

"by time this poll is over the products here will be discontinued"

Agreed. And, to me, it's sad that only 2/5ths of the products shown are for use with actual optical viewfinder type cameras. The Jedi Mind Trick of convincing every one that the EVF is the new way to go is really taking hold. I do hope that there is a commitment to furthering development by those manufacturers who understand that not all customers are sold on mirrorless.

3 upvotes
wansai
By wansai (3 months ago)

@markbyland,

- what is a viewfinder used for?

i'll tell you. for framing a shot. for focus/confirmation. both evf and ovf accomplish the same thing. your insinuation that anyone who may prefer an evf because it is an inferior aid is preposterous.

Comment edited 5 minutes after posting
0 upvotes
Jimmy jang Boo
By Jimmy jang Boo (3 months ago)

These stupid polls do not add any credibility to dpr. On the contrary, they cheapen it.

9 upvotes
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (3 months ago)

Hmmm... the opinions of our readers cheapen our site...

1 upvote
John P.
By John P. (3 months ago)

Where's the "None of the above" option?

19 upvotes
pixelpushing
By pixelpushing (3 months ago)

Bodies come and go (faster and faster). That lens will be here for a long time, and is a game-changer.

3 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

Nowadays, lenses are not what they used to be. AF, often fly-by-wire MF, electronic aperture - they live only as long as the electronics in them and mounts for which they were made.

5 upvotes
AD in KC
By AD in KC (3 months ago)

Upcoming poll: Hammer - vs- Screwdriver? Which is the BEST?

21 upvotes
RichRMA
By RichRMA (3 months ago)

If there was a God, the Robertson would be the primary screw design used; not the slot-head, not the Phillips, not the Allen.

5 upvotes
Sir Corey of Deane
By Sir Corey of Deane (3 months ago)

No contest. A hammer may be used as a Birmingham screwdriver.

3 upvotes
Raskolnikow90
By Raskolnikow90 (3 months ago)

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/03/hammerforum-com

Hammertime!

1 upvote
backayonder
By backayonder (3 months ago)

Ball Pein or Mallet v Yankee Screwdriver

1 upvote
marike6
By marike6 (3 months ago)

If these are the "best of 2013" it's clearly not been a banner year for cameras.

With the EM-1 you get free shutter shock and one of the smallest sensors for any crop sensor camera. The X100s took the excellent X100 and saddled it with X-Trans RAW conversion issues, and the K-3 is an excellent APS-C camera at a time when most advanced amateurs and professionals are shooting FF.

These polls give DPR another tool for advertiser banners like "DPR Reader's Poll Best of 2103" that we see in magazines and e-commerce sites. So in a sense they symbolize the growing commercialization of this website. Content like this is ultimately tied to Gear Shop which is fine if that's the direction they want to go, but kind of a turn off for readers.

5 upvotes
vadims
By vadims (3 months ago)

Please continue, tell us all the truth. Inquiring minds want to know.

4 upvotes
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (3 months ago)

@marike6 - most of the links you see here lead to content. And as for the 'growing commercialization of this website' GearShop isn't even available to readers outside of the USA (i.e., most of them).

5 upvotes
wansai
By wansai (3 months ago)

@marik, and yet you said nothing about photography. the em1. is as fine a camera as they come, despite any misgivings you may have about it. having a large sensor does not guarantee a good camera. all those entries take superb quality fotos btw, regardless of sensor size differences.

0 upvotes
timo
By timo (3 months ago)

Boring.

'Clickbait', as someone said in another post.

And perhaps a desperate ploy to get Canon or Nikon back in the headlines ...

Comment edited 23 seconds after posting
2 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (3 months ago)

By publishing a poll that doesn't mention them? That's not desperate that's almost surrealistically subtle.

22 upvotes
revio
By revio (3 months ago)

@Lucas:

These 5 alternatives are there because they were selected before by the DPR readership to be the best in their respective category.

Of course the A7 twins are superb cameras, IQ wise especially, but obviously other characters of gear also took place in folk´s minds while making their choices. And, frankly, the m4/3 system as a whole is way more mature than the A7 w its dedicated lenses, so far, and will so continue to be a fair amount of time from now. From that we may assume that choosing the E-M1 as "best" wasn´t ONLY because the camera in itself is very good, but also because it can within its system be considered a better choice for a larger number of people than would the A7 in its present system context. Even the dedidacted lenses will, to a fair degree, offset at least a part of the benefit the camera´s small dimensions offer...

Just my thoughts, not supposed to be considered The Absolute Truth about this matter!

Comment edited 3 minutes after posting
2 upvotes
Lucas_
By Lucas_ (3 months ago)

What happened to the outstanding Sony A7R/A7? AFAIK they're launched in 2013 and blew the socks off any other mirrorless camera ( and many DSLR/SLTs, only loosing in AF speed ). Are they being considered 2014 models?
Anyway, if those two were not considered, I'd vote for for the Olympus OM-D E-M1, with a close second for the Sony RX100II. I don't think I'd buy the Oly though, it should be at least 20MP.

Comment edited 9 minutes after posting
4 upvotes
bluevellet
By bluevellet (3 months ago)

The A7's were crushed in the previous mirrorless poll. Just not good enough.

11 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (3 months ago)

"and blew the socks off any other mirrorless camera" - lol. Not at all. Not even remotely close.

5 upvotes
Zeisschen
By Zeisschen (3 months ago)

Olympus fanboy has spoken...

I give you one single reason. Sony is getting "punished" in this poll for releasing 2 slightly different cameras at the same time. Turn It the other way round and make only the A7 vs two potential version of the EM-1, one with 16MP sensor and fast autofocus and one with a new better 20MP sensor. Autocome of the poll would probably be 30% A7 and 15% for each of the Olympus models. I know that's just slightly fictional but that's what happened in the mirrorless "poll". So everybody should take these "polls" with a grain (or in this case a bag of) of salt.

1 upvote
bluevellet
By bluevellet (3 months ago)

You can combine the total votes of the A7 and A7r and Sony still can't be first in the mirrorless poll. Even if you add the votes of the NEX5 (I'm feeling generous), it is still trailing behind the E-M1 which competes with 3 other m43 cameras. Speculation is fine, but it is always better when based on facts, not just wishful thinking.

And among Sony users, there's a clear preference for the "slightly different" A7r over the A7, that poll showed that too with over twice as many votes for the A7r. So the A7 alone would have gotten slaughtered more than the A7r would have in a similar hypothetical scenario.

6 upvotes
NZ Scott
By NZ Scott (3 months ago)

I've read two separate comparative reviews of the E-M1 versus an A7 and in both instances the E-M1 was preferred. These were pro/advanced enthusiast reviews.

There's more to a camera than just the sensor size.

Cameralabs: :For me the combination of quicker handling, built-in stabilisation and plenty of native lenses makes the EM1 a better all-round camera for most people".

Comment edited 6 minutes after posting
5 upvotes
Mister J
By Mister J (3 months ago)

Think I'll go for the delightful, though unlisted, Pana GM-1.

1 upvote
Ralf B
By Ralf B (3 months ago)

The many times this poll gets re-used redefines "rumination".

6 upvotes
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (3 months ago)

Reused? This is the final poll, it runs through this month.

1 upvote
sh10453
By sh10453 (3 months ago)

Sorry Barney, I have to agree to Ralf, aside from the fact we are asked to compare apples with oranges.

4 upvotes
Barney Britton
By Barney Britton (3 months ago)

@ sh10453 - apology accepted, but Ralf is factually wrong.

0 upvotes
Mirrorless Crusader
By Mirrorless Crusader (3 months ago)

Obvioiusly no coincidence that there isn't a single Canikon product that could even win its own category. Of course it doesn't help that Canikon has no idea how to do mirrorless, though it's not long they ever had a ghost of a chance to win that category no matter what they did, considering the E-M1 and A7R,

3 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (3 months ago)

All Canikon is doing is selling cameras, while the rest of the mirrorless vendors decide how they can even stay in business.

As far as these silly polls, truth be told the D7100 blows the socks of any of the crop sensor mirrorless cameras for IQ, AF performance and video, and the modest entry level FF D610 is flat out a better camera than the A7.

These polls exist as click bait for DPR, but truth be told there was no better camera than the D800 last year and this year...ho hum, Nikon added another camera to DxOMark's Top 10 with the Df, the best performing low-light camera ever made and Canon has brought HDSLR video up to the next level with the 70D. Meanwhile, mirrorless vendors keep trying to think of more ways to make cameras smaller, less ergonomic with zero consideration about flash systems, reasonably priced lenses, super telephotos, or anything that professional or advanced amateurs need.

16 upvotes
NZ Scott
By NZ Scott (3 months ago)

Marike: "As far as these silly polls, truth be told the D7100 blows the socks of any of the crop sensor mirrorless cameras for IQ, AF performance and video".

IQ: The D7100 has roughly equivalent IQ to the E-M1 and NEX cameras

AF. The D7100 has better continous AF, but mirrorless cameras have more accurate S-AF.

Video: The top-range M43 Panasonic cameras are acknowledged as being some of the best on the market for video. Some professionals are even using them for feature films.

"mirrorless vendors keep trying to think of more ways to make cameras smaller, less ergonomic ..."

The leading camera in the poll - the E-M1 - is essentially last year's E-M5 repackaged to be more ergonomic, with a bigger grip and better placement of controls. Panasonic's G-series cameras have similar layout to a DSLR.

Comment edited 15 seconds after posting
5 upvotes
YSLaiHK
By YSLaiHK (3 months ago)

LOL, so many Cyber Photographers here. These people so freely comment about cameras by 'numbers', while most of them even never touched the cameras or know how to use them to take pictures.

1 upvote
AlexRuiz
By AlexRuiz (3 months ago)

During the past 3 years I went on a camera-buying rampage.

Why? I am meticulous about my things. When sometihng doesn't feel right, I move on to the next thing.

Here are my findings and experience with these products:

Panasonic GF series - IQ did not meet expectations...offloaded on eBay.

Panasonic ZS7 - terrible...offloaded on eBay

Sony NEX-3 - control layout (hardware and software) was poorly designed. Shooting with it was not fun. Sold on eBay

Canon T1i - not a great camera, but good enough to inspire me to go for a higher caliber DSLR.

Canon S90, S95, and S100 - Great pocket cameras, with each replacing the previous model. I still have the S100

Olympus OMD-EM5 - Probably the most overhyped camera of the lot. Owned it 6 months and sold it due to not meeting expectations.

Nikon D7000 - great camera all around and great update to the T1i. Inspired me to go full frame.

Nikon D600 - superb camera all around. Still have it. Still enjoy it.

Next - Fuji X series.

Comment edited 19 seconds after posting
0 upvotes
Mirrorless Crusader
By Mirrorless Crusader (3 months ago)

Oly wins two years in a row. Sony the year before that. I doubt you'll ever see a DSLR win camera of the year ever again.

8 upvotes
Markol
By Markol (3 months ago)

Maybe this segment has so far matured that there is little new to be found?
A RX100 was certainly very innovative. And what Olympus/Panasonic have shown with their MFT lineup (even though they are too expensive) is more impressive than recent DSLRs too.

3 upvotes
Plastek
By Plastek (3 months ago)

Considering that DSLR took 2nd spot and compact took 3rd spot in current results - I wouldn't be so sure of that M.C.

1 upvote
steelski
By steelski (3 months ago)

Here is a reminder for you guys,
K-3 REVIEW............ Now get back to work.

18 upvotes
actaswu
By actaswu (3 months ago)

Maybe if you'd just ask kindly.

4 upvotes
steelski
By steelski (3 months ago)

I do hope you realise I am joking. As there are a lot of british staff on dpreview, they should be able to take a joke. They already said it will come out shorty anyway.

3 upvotes
Segaman
By Segaman (3 months ago)

Joke or not, its their job to do so, they make enough dough by attracting suckers like me :O)

0 upvotes
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