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Adobe adds Perspective Warp and 3D printing to Photoshop CC

By dpreview staff on Jan 16, 2014 at 17:21 GMT

Adobe has released a major update to Photoshop for Creative Cloud subscribers. The most notable new features are Perspective Warp, Linked Smart Objects and 3D printing capability. 

Other improvements include enhancements to Scripted Patterns and fills, performance boosts for Smart Sharpen, Adobe Generator improvements for rescaling Smart Objects and adding padding, and font transformations and shape selections. 

The update is free for Creative Cloud members. For people who have all already run through their 30-day trial, Adobe is also resetting the clock, giving customers an additional 30 days to try the new features. 

Perspective Warp

With Perspective Warp you can correct complex distortions, make a telephoto lens shot look like a wide-angle shot (and vice-versa), or even change the viewpoint from which the object is seen. It also allows you to combine multiple images together that have different vanishing points.

Linked Smart Objects

You can now use the same object in multiple documents, change it once, and have that change flow through to each and every Photoshop document with Linked Smart Objects. This works with Illustrator files, PDFs, and raw photos from Lightroom.  

3D Printing

This feature allows you to preview and then print directly from  Photoshop CC to a 3D printer. Photoshop will generate the necessary support structures — scaffolding and rafts — for 3D printing. 

How to get the update

  1. Look for the update in the Creative Cloud application and click 'Update'. 
  2. If you don’t have the Creative Cloud application running, start Photoshop and choose Help > Updates.
  3. The Adobe Application Manager will launch. Select Adobe Photoshop CC and choose Update.

How to learn more

Source: Adobe

Comments

Total comments: 158
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razadaz
By razadaz (3 months ago)

I feel a sense of relief that Adobe has moved to the cc model. Otherwise I would be in the difficult position of having to upgrade my CS6 or lose my upgrade privileges for the sake of a couple of features that I will probably never use. The beauty for all current CS6 users is that they can now sit back, watch the Adobe wheels turning, in the knowledge that they can bide their time until the day comes when they really need to upgrade to cc, or whatever other programs have evolved by that time. In the meantime we will all save a fortune.

9 upvotes
JackFM
By JackFM (3 months ago)

Exactly! :-)

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DaveBowman
By DaveBowman (3 months ago)

Just tried the perspective warp tool on a single layer, only on a small portion of the image. Somehow it managed to turn a 400MB file into an 8GB one!! It also took an absolute age to render on a Mac Pro with 24GB of Ram.

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eyedo
By eyedo (3 months ago)

I'd be afraid my clients images would be hacked just by going thru the Adobe Cloud site for anything!

0 upvotes
Kiwiboy
By Kiwiboy (3 months ago)

Then don't put your images on adobe's cloud, put it on your own or someone else's you trust. They're not making them use theiir storage are they?

4 upvotes
Karl Summers
By Karl Summers (3 months ago)

Got my update, thanks Adobe!

1 upvote
Kiwiboy
By Kiwiboy (3 months ago)

Me too, happy days.

1 upvote
madeinlisboa
By madeinlisboa (3 months ago)

yes. enjoy the new many bugs.

1 upvote
backayonder
By backayonder (3 months ago)

If you are happy with Adobe Cloud that is fine by me and if you are happy with CS3, 5,6 etc that is all so fine by me too.

I am just wondering from a photographers point of view what benefits the latest Photoshop has. Surely for a photographer Photoshop peaked many versions ago.

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norman shearer
By norman shearer (3 months ago)

Having moved from CS5 to Adobe Cloud I find it a big step up personally. I can recover highlights less destructively and opening up shadows is also easier. Even the clarity slider is an eye opener.

All software can be improved though I concede bloatware can do little but slow your PC down and make post processing a chore. I also had to upgrade my PC to use CS6 and lightroom. Then again it was a Core2duo setup with limited RAM so I really did need to bring my PC up to speed anyway.

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cjyphoto
By cjyphoto (3 months ago)

Can be done in LR4.

4 upvotes
backayonder
By backayonder (3 months ago)

3D printing support is perfect for D300s owners wanting an upgrade as they can now design and print their very own D400. Well done Adobe for thinking about the photographer.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (3 months ago)

I realize people want Nikon to replace the well liked D300s with a D400, but 3D printing is nowhere near the tech to use. It can do one material and things don't come out polished, so entirely the wrong gear.

I want to know what 3D solids capacity PhotoShop CC has? I have PhotoShop CS6 and it's news that you can build 3D parts with it, or even a bas relief mural. (Confirmed PhotoShop CS6 opens neither STL or IGES files, both are 3D solids file types.)

On the other hand 3D CAD can do solids and I've had that software for more than ten years, and then devices to hand manipulate, carve plus cut those solids in the virtual realm are starting to become a reality--for $20,000 apiece last I checked. So not much to do with Adobe CC, unless something radical got added to CS6.

I'd be willing to trial the rental of PhotoShop CS6 if it could replace the $20,000 haptic device with a computer mouse and no solids CADware.

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NetMage
By NetMage (3 months ago)

3D printing isn't limited to home models - there are 3D printers that print multiple materials and can mix them for varying flexibility, there are 3D printers for metals as well.

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HBowman
By HBowman (3 months ago)

After years of neglect and abuse by her parents, Adobe begins practising a form of psychoplasmic therapy (i.e. letting go of trauma through changes to the physical body). However, in the process, Adobe unknowingly creates a group of dwarf-like children through asexual reproduction in an external womb - children that, bonded to Adobe through a psychic connection, attempt to kill anyone who upsets their mother.

11 upvotes
backayonder
By backayonder (3 months ago)

What he said.

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eyedo
By eyedo (3 months ago)

nailed it!

1 upvote
GaryJP
By GaryJP (3 months ago)

Adobe - by David Cronenberg,

1 upvote
jmkoh
By jmkoh (3 months ago)

Laughable that the Adobe shills on here try to paint the anti CC subscriptions people as having pirated software or cannot afford the plans. I guess they're unable to comprehend that it has to do with choice and not wanting to be forced into something that they will be locked into.

10 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (3 months ago)

Has anyone noticed PS 6 running slower than PS 5? Maybe it's my antique MacPro. They've also made it more difficult to set PS 5 as the default, which would be my preference, given the speed difference.

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Marcin 3M
By Marcin 3M (3 months ago)

Does anyone here noticed quite mature free program, with full icc support, cmyk mode, floating dp pixel, correction layers and many more? It's called Krita, and while it is mainly drawing program, it is also quite good photoeditor.
Its worth to be supported.

3 upvotes
Scorpius1
By Scorpius1 (3 months ago)

The only news I want to hear from Adobe is that they've realized their mistake and will be releasing a new perpetual license fro CC/CS7.. otherwise it's LR5/C1P7 for raw conversion and CS6 for me...

12 upvotes
BaldCol
By BaldCol (3 months ago)

Never going to happen so best you don't bother reading Adobe news from now on.

3 upvotes
Scorpius1
By Scorpius1 (3 months ago)

@BaldCol .. never say never,a new CEO is all it could take..

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GaryJP
By GaryJP (3 months ago)

Baldcol, I'd bet you are wrong. But that will REALLY p!ss off those who have been suckered into renting.

1 upvote
JakeB
By JakeB (3 months ago)

Where are all those bitter PC users to complain that the demo is on a Mac?

Combine them with the Adobe haters and we could achieve a perfect storm of internet outrage.

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LaFonte
By LaFonte (3 months ago)

I like the perspective warp a lot. It is pretty smart.
But then again, I am definitely not going to pay a subscription fee for any software.
And it isn't even a subscription, it is RENTAL.
The biggest reason for me s not to give them or any other company approval that this is the way to sell software, because then soon, everything else will be a RENTAL, Lightroom? Windows? MS office?
Once the dollar signs appear in their eyes, the companies will not stop.

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Jogger
By Jogger (3 months ago)

They are just orienting their creative suite to professional houses who are used to buying licenses in this way... they would rather have a consistent revenue stream than the more cycling manner with hard releases. Its really a non-issue for businesses... the people crying about it probably pirated their version and upset that they can nolonger do so.

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joejack951
By joejack951 (3 months ago)

MS Office is available as a subscription: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/buy/

I have no details on the service works. I only know of it because I just bought a new workstation and saw it as an option (one I chose to ignore and will stick with my Office 2003!).

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (3 months ago)

To say that people who don't want to pay a monthly fee have "probably" pirated their software is "probably" false because you have no way of knowing this.

I needed the newer version of Lightroom so I went for the $10 a month deal. So far, I have to say I'm impressed at how much slower Photoshop 6 runs, compared to PS 5.

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GaryJP
By GaryJP (3 months ago)

"the people crying about it probably pirated their version"

How braindead can you get? Firstly, legit software for a pro is a tax write-off. Second, Adobe has BOOSTED piracy with this renting model. They admit themselves they have done nothing to reduce it.

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eyedo
By eyedo (3 months ago)

Open Office suite is open source and available for ALL systems

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Yorkshireman
By Yorkshireman (3 months ago)

I am glad Adobe came out with this update. It's just confirms that subscribing to CC would have meant paying my money for Abode to develop features I do not want to have. I'm glad to stay with PS6.

10 upvotes
BaldCol
By BaldCol (3 months ago)

Isn't one of the points of the new model a 'little and often' approach to updates. In which case I would not expect to find all of them of any use to me. Indeed that is the case this time. If this were the old days and Adobe were releasing this as CS7 then quite rightly people would say hang on that's not worth the upgrade price but users of CC have to get used to a new model of minor but more frequent changes.

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jadot
By jadot (3 months ago)

Lots of people stamping their feet here. It's easy to see that a percentage of those people are just upset because it's getting harder to keep cracked versions up to date.

The truth is that in a competitive market using the latest software (in this case CC with current updates) can give you a competitive edge.

If you're happy with CS6 or below, then why are you complaining about CC? If it was CS7 you'd complain about the cost of "buying" it and how Adobe force you to buy updates every 18 months. Depending on how you want to use the software, it could actually cost you more to "own" the software every two years. If you don't need the latest features, then you'll probably be alright using Photoshop Express - buy that.

Meanwhile for probably less than what you spend on chocolate in 1 week, professionals are using CC with all the latest updates, spending less time worrying about Adobe's plans for armegeddon, and less time eating chocolate.

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Danny
By Danny (3 months ago)

The money you pay for CC now is not going to last. It will be very expensive chocolate for you my friend, be sure of that. Mind you, I have invested for MANY years into Photoshop, and Adobe couldn't be Adobe if it where not for customers like me. Now, they are taking the Mickey with me, as they only option for me left to use their stuff is to pay them money each month or else I will not be able to use their stuff anymore. If that's what you get after 17 years of investing they can keep their tiny little teeny-weenie updates and I'll be looking at an alternative, as I have a talent, and my talent does not depend on a program, like Photoshop.

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Marcin 3M
By Marcin 3M (3 months ago)

No' I wouldn't complain to the cost of CS7.
I don't need all tools from Adobe, so for me upgrade was about 40% of CC, and little more than CC for photographers.
I don't ask how much You spend on chocolate - it is not my problem. I don't accept any constant charges, because my "cashflow" is not constant.
Finally, the way that Adobe renews subscription is not acceptable to me, and it looks like the model taken from the least customer-friendly companies.
FYI, getting cracked CC is not a problem, even with last updates. But for some reason me, and many critics of "perpetual pay" model are not going use hacked CC - at least in a foreseeable future :)
Finally, I will be pleased if You could show me how pro photographer can benefit from 3d printing. And I will explain You, how pro photographer can benefit from eating chocolate.

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jadot
By jadot (3 months ago)

That's great. So you're happy with that and it's of no real consequence what Adobe does with Photoshop.

So why does CC Pi*SS you off so much?

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JackFM
By JackFM (3 months ago)

Adobe big for our money. And now blackmailing us - just pay cc
or get lost ...

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LaFonte
By LaFonte (3 months ago)

This is BS about cracked software. This is to show them that subscription based sales are not the way future is going to be.
Imagine most people say it is a great way to get software and they start pouring money into subscription. I can guarantee that soon after everything else will turn into subscription model and soon you will realize you can't do anything on your computer if you don't pay every month.
You think i am exaggerating a bit? If adobe says the subscription model works beyond expectation and they make billions, I bet every one else will want to jump on board.

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Chris2210
By Chris2210 (3 months ago)

In previous years if you wanted to skip an iteration or two to save money - or if the new features didn't appeal - or if you simply could not afford an upgrade, you could. The subscription model takes away that choice. It also takes away the option of voting with your feet if prices suddenly jump - unless you want to abandon your existing investment.

Those Adobe customers who don't like this model for perfectly legitimate reasons are either permanently locked into using CS6 or seeking an alternative. Once you have bought into CC, there's no turning back [unless you have an older version of the software which ultimately will not work on new hardware.

Adobe used to be one of my favourite tech companies - very customer focused, reliable and offering great support. That changed quite a long time ago when the founders retired and the principal aim of the board became maximising profit above all else.

I am happy my employers are not subscribing - I hope this model fails.

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GaryJP
By GaryJP (3 months ago)

jadot has got to be kidding or working for Adobe. The crack will be out in a week or so.

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jadot
By jadot (3 months ago)

Not kidding or working for Adobe, and I think this has already been cracked (I'm sure someone will know yes or no).

My point remains. CC works for me and I use it daily. It's worth the tiny subscription fee.
CC doesn't work for some, and they are apparently seeking alternatives/voting with their protests which is fine too.
I've been using Photoshop for years as a tool for my photography processing, but at no point during that time was I under the illusion that Adobe and I were inseperable, or that our alliegence was infinite. I haven't felt mortally let down, stabbed in the back, betrayed.
Get a grip, people.

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Danny
By Danny (3 months ago)

This update does not make any sense. WHO ON EARTH is going to use a 3D-printing option from inside Photoshop? If you are, like me, into 3D-printing, you are using 3D software for that, NOT a 2D photo-retouching application!! It sounds so sophisticated, "hey look- Photoshop can do 3D-printing too"! Yeah, prehistoric simple objects like a coke-can, that's what we print all the time.. It shows that, again, Adobe makes pointless updates on a product that has been finished years ago, and now it's milking it's users money with their Cloud. Who wants to be part of that? I'll keep working with CS5 for as long as I like it, then jump towards the competition.

(btw, I am a professional Photoshop user for more than 17 years).

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LaFonte
By LaFonte (3 months ago)

Watching the video I was thinking the same. I kind of don't see any reason to do 3D whatever in photoshop. they should direct their development to the 2d photo manipulation. I also don't know many people (actually none) who use photoshop for anything 3d.
Weird.

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designdef
By designdef (3 months ago)

Talk about a B L O A T E D app! My CS3 still does the job nicely, thank you.

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BaldCol
By BaldCol (3 months ago)

Would it be possible for those who don't want/don't have/or disagree with the cc concept to not bang on about it everytime the word Adobe appears in an article. We get it ok. You don't like Adobe, you don't like the cloud computing/rental model and in anycase everything else is better.

Now leave the comments to those who actually have a point to make about the changes to the software.

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JackFM
By JackFM (3 months ago)

So he wants Adobe. Head in the sand like an ostrich. They took us the tools and we have to be quiet?

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BaldCol
By BaldCol (3 months ago)

What? Would you like to repeat that using English so I can understand what you are trying to say?

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JackFM
By JackFM (3 months ago)

Adobe właśnie tego chce aby się zamknąć i nie odzywać. Według Ciebie mamy schować głowę w piasek jak strusie? Są monopolistą i nie dają nam wyboru CS lub CC czyli zabierają narzędzia. :) Może ktoś to ładnie przetłumaczy na Angielski?

Google translator: Adobe wants to just shut up and not speak. According to you we have to hide your head in the sand like ostriches? They are a monopoly and do not give us a choice of CS or CC or take the tool. :) Can someone translate nicely into English?

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backayonder
By backayonder (3 months ago)

Yoda is that you.

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Eric Hensel
By Eric Hensel (3 months ago)

Baldcol --the internet is international, and folks who don't use English natively, graciously attempt to communicate with clowns like you who are incapable of making a little effort...frankly I don't know why they bother.

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FrancW
By FrancW (3 months ago)

if it only wants to update, indesign cc updates but not photoshop cc. piece of rubbish!

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rrr_hhh
By rrr_hhh (3 months ago)

It is interesting these continual extensions of the 9.99$ Photographers' deal :
What this tells me is that they didn't reach their subscription goal.

I for one didn't subscribe. Here in Switzerland, even after our VAT deduction, we still have to pay 40% more than US customers. I'm definitely fed up with Adobe. I own PSCS6 plus LR5 and won't get into CC.

I'm investing in other products like Capture One and DXO. i will see what to do when i can no more use CS6.

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cjyphoto
By cjyphoto (3 months ago)

They will be lucky to keep those rates. Notice the price of upgrade is what the current price is. What will that be? http://www.adobe.com/store/en_us/popup/offer/ccm_photoshop_app_offer.html

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GaryJP
By GaryJP (3 months ago)

"The update is free for Creative Cloud members."

Translation: The update is FREE as long as you pay us.

Alice has fallen through the looking glass.

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BaldCol
By BaldCol (3 months ago)

Adobe do themselves no favours by using the word free. "The update is included in the cc subscription" would be a better way of phrasing it.

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whakapu
By whakapu (3 months ago)

New Adobe features - I don't care. The product is not for sale. When the features become part of a product I can buy and own then I'll be interested.

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brycesteiner
By brycesteiner (3 months ago)

Didn't we already have perspective warp back in CS2? I seem to have been using something similar for years.
I really don't care for the 3d printing, but good for them for adding it for people who do.

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groucher
By groucher (3 months ago)

Yes. perspective warp used to be called 'Free Transform'. Studio 8, which includes CS3, has something suspiciously similar to 'linked smart objects'.

It seems that Adobe has run out of ideas. Perhaps they should concentrate on getting the basics updated - the poor RAW processing, antiquated toolset, appalling memory management and lack of vital tools such as D-Lighting.

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (3 months ago)

Free Transform could only do one plane at a time, so it can't do what the new feature can.

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OBI656
By OBI656 (3 months ago)

So I have updated my CC version but Perspective Warp nowhere to be seen ... ?

What is going on ADOBE ?

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jkrumm
By jkrumm (3 months ago)

Look under the Edit menu. Perspective Warp.

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Michael Foran
By Michael Foran (3 months ago)

Right! You can't figure it out so it MUST be Adobe's fault! What are they DOING?

4 upvotes
justin23
By justin23 (3 months ago)

The issue with the rental model stills continues. If you stop paying for the rental model, your files are trapped without anyway of opening them. Worst case they should allow you to open and save any files even if your subscription is no longer valid.
Luckily Lightroom is probably all most photographers really need.

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Marcin 3M
By Marcin 3M (3 months ago)

Luckily lightroom is not the best raw processor on this planet.
My adventure with this product started with version 3 and ended with version 4. I don't want to be trapped with the "perpetual subscription" concept, with my all images organized with a program made by a company that says: "subscription is the future of the business."

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bronxbombers4
By bronxbombers4 (3 months ago)

Only if they are stored as photoshop documents and use extra features. But all the same, you could rent it for years and if you stop you have no program to show for it. At the least they could let you keep using whatever version you were currently on forever and simply just cut off future updates (at least so long as you had owned CS6 prior or, if not, then rented it for say three straight years).

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Gesture
By Gesture (3 months ago)

Should be a Photoshop Reader program that will open and allow export of the files. Reader standalone programs were quite common in the olden days of software.

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BaldCol
By BaldCol (3 months ago)

"your files are trapped without anyway of opening them". Why do poeple continue to peddle this untruth? The only files you will not be able to open are those saved in Adobe propriety formats, ie PSD. If you never use PSD you don't have a problem. If you do then all you need to do is convert the files before stopping your subscription.

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flaca
By flaca (3 months ago)

Excuse the use of capitals in this post. Apparently whining always has to be done in FULL CAPS like a toddler. I'm just learning how to do it so here goes.

Goddamn automobiles. If I stop putting petrol in it, it stops working. I bought the thing, I want it to work forever. And I paid my satellite TV subscription last month, then the TV company wants more money this month. And if Amazon goes bust I'll lose all my Kindle books FOREVER. Wow, I'm really confused about all these different business models BUT IT MUST ALL BE SOMEONE ELSE's FAULT.

Personally, I'm very happy committing to Adobe for a good while. If I ever decide to move, I'll just export the PSDs. What is the problem? OH BUT THAT IS TOO DIFFICULT WAAAAH.

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LaFonte
By LaFonte (3 months ago)

What Automobiles have t do with it? If you stop paying for gas you can still sell it because it is yours. It is like photoshop and paying for electricity.
TV subscription, satellite etc are entertainment services. If you stop paying you get no TV and you can entertain yourself other way.
What if Windows or MAC OSX becomes a subscription service because the model is soooo good?
It is not about photoshop, it is about Adobe believing this is the model for future.

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Mystery Gardener
By Mystery Gardener (3 months ago)

I see that a lot of the whiners and complainers commenting on the new Adobe CC features are the same people who fervently stated that Adobe would not add any new features to the CC product (no incentive). Please stand up and be counted (yes, you too hiding in shadows at the back of the room).

I am still using CS6 but will be joining the cloud group in the future if they keep adding new functionality. My cable/internet/phone package is 200 dollars a month, 10 bucks a month seems relatively cheap (basically the same cost as 2 good cups of coffee).

Cheers, James

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Marcin 3M
By Marcin 3M (3 months ago)

Are You sure that CC will remain 10bucks/month?
Because I'm not.

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Kim Knapp
By Kim Knapp (3 months ago)

And wouldn't you rather upgrade to CS7 in a year or so and OWN it?

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bronxbombers4
By bronxbombers4 (3 months ago)

Standing up. I still don't like software rentals. I don't care what they add to it or what the rental price. And I don't yet see anything they've added that makes me miss CC one bit. And for those who also more than just PS this new model appears it would cost more than interleaved upgrading a partial suite and stand alone PS every few generations.

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GaryJP
By GaryJP (3 months ago)

They can't add ANYTHING convincing enough to make me rent my software. In fact, the reason the introduce the rental model is that they KNOW the software is mature and they can't get people to keep upgrading. Same reason people are not buying new PCs. Their old ones do everything they need.

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Michael Foran
By Michael Foran (3 months ago)

I am mixed on the subscription only model. I like that a subscription model allows them to develop functionality that may be extremely helpful to users, but might not help them sell a big update. With the cycle of selling new versions every 6 to 12 months broken, they can focus on real user related issues, not just what looks good on the the bullet points of the box. But at the same time this biz model removes control from the user to upgrade at a time or price that works for them. I wish Adobe would allow upgrade points for those who would prefer ownership to subscription.

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Gesture
By Gesture (3 months ago)

Not everyone needs the latest and greatest or is interested in constantly having to upgrade computing power to handle such "all-everything" programs.

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AFishEye
By AFishEye (3 months ago)

Your cable bill is 200$/month and you're ok with that?!
If you need a reality check, here it is: http://youtu.be/0ilMx7k7mso
Don't get me wrong, I'm not paying less; it doesn't mean I'm ok with that.
The Adobe subscription makes as much sense as your cable package deal

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BaldCol
By BaldCol (3 months ago)

"Are You sure that CC will remain 10bucks/month?
Because I'm not."

Why do I care? It's 10 now. If it's more when I renew I will decide whether or not that new price is worth paying. If not I stop using Photoshop and start using something else.

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Marcin 3M
By Marcin 3M (3 months ago)

I'm looking forward to see tutorial: "perfect skintone in 3d printouts".
I'm CS6 user, and I don't see anything really important in CC, that is missing in my "perpetual" version.

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jkrumm
By jkrumm (3 months ago)

Looks good to me. Enjoying the Adobe bandwagon so far, other than the credit card problem.

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ihv
By ihv (3 months ago)

"The update is free for Creative Cloud members".

Well, this is why membership is paid for. Quite far from being free.

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WT21
By WT21 (3 months ago)

it should say "the update is included in your creative cloud membership" because you are, indeed, paying for it. My company sells annual licenses. We always say "included" not "free" because it would be disingenuous to call it "free"

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Tom Goodman
By Tom Goodman (3 months ago)

Be aware this download may crash your Smart Sharpen function depending on how current your video card driver is!!!!!!!!!

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BaldCol
By BaldCol (3 months ago)

Always good practice to update you video card driver anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Tom Goodman
By Tom Goodman (3 months ago)

True enough, but a lot of folks don't do it every time there's an update to a graphics program they have been using all along. The devil was definitely in the details in this case: the announcement said the Smart Sharpen tool was one of the features being updated. I did not update my driver first and the tool ceased to function. I then updated the driver and it worked.

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thx1138
By thx1138 (3 months ago)

I think they should change their name to Adon'tbefooled. Zero credibility after the credit card fiasco and revelation they were using industry worst practices for encryption and additionally only offered US citizens any compensation.

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skytripper
By skytripper (3 months ago)

I want a virtual toaster and I refuse to sign up for Adobe CC until they include one!

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mli20
By mli20 (3 months ago)

"It also allows you to combine multiple images together that have different vanishing points"

Say again?

Any number of imaging applications can do that. And we all already have a ton of images with multiple vanishing points, straight out of camera.

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AshMills
By AshMills (3 months ago)

It does actually look quite handy- you can add a 3D grid to a 2D image of a 3d thing, and transform the perspective of individual planes. Still not subscribing though!!

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LarryK
By LarryK (3 months ago)

These days I only use Adobe to lose my credit card data.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

Looks like DPR staff is on vacations again, and old pre-prepared content is being gradually released to keep appearance of an active site.

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Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (3 months ago)

erm, no.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (3 months ago)

Why all the fillers then when all the cameras and lenses go untested, and AF testing protocol is still not in place?

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Boomanbb
By Boomanbb (3 months ago)

These look like great additions and maybe I'm in the minority but I am enjoying the Photoshop CC.

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JWilkinson Studios
By JWilkinson Studios (3 months ago)

I think most people that comment on this sight as mostly hobbyists, which they should have no need for Photoshop in general.

Semi-Pros or even some pros (Portrait/Wedding Photographers) might not find it worth it for the cost, with as little as most (I Know) actually use it.
But Its so stupid cheap.. I just dont understand why people whine. My Xbox music Sub is 9.99 a month.. and I dont make money off it.

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Mrrowe8
By Mrrowe8 (3 months ago)

I am with you looks interesting & Most of the bad mouthers still live in their mom's basement and this is the only place they believe and wrongly I might add their small pecker opinions matter .. It's usually the same D wads saming stuff ..

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DaveE1
By DaveE1 (3 months ago)

There is a lot to like about Adobe Photoshop CC. It's a great application. It's just the Adobe money gouging that people are giving out about.

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disraeli demon
By disraeli demon (3 months ago)

I'm a pro user who's stuck with Photoshop because for Mac there's nothing else that offers such sophisticated CMYK editing on a per-channel basis.
Photoshop for me was basically perfected at version 7 (2003), so I'd just upgrade to keep in line with hardware updates (usually every other version, or about £140 every two years, sometimes longer.)
The best deal I can find for Photoshop CC is the photographer's one, which is what? £8/month or so? That's about a 50% increase over 2 years, adding no features I need for my work. (I know I get Lightroom as well, but I wouldn't pay for Lightroom as a stand-alone). Last time I looked, my income didn't shoot up by 50% this year.

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JWilkinson Studios
By JWilkinson Studios (3 months ago)

You can hardly call what they are doing money gouging. Is it a little more for some people? Yes, obviously so. Its very much worth it for me, because I so the whole suite and as much as they are updating everything, its a dream.
Prices do get raised sometimes tho, most photographers raise their prices fairly regularly.

Its just the cost of the huge adobe team maintaining and improving their product. I don't see how its a problem.

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Zdman
By Zdman (3 months ago)

The problem is that that could have continued the old model but they switched to this one to make more money. Thats it, no user benefit just more money (probably because they saw less and less people were upgrading). Sure its relatively cheap but if they pull this off you can expect almost everyone to try follow. Suddenly you're renting the operating system, software, pc, home, car etc and there is no option to buy. Now you've become a slave of cosumerism

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DaveE1
By DaveE1 (3 months ago)

@JWilkinson Studios. You do know that the vast majority of the big team that you mention are in sales and marketing? No? Well, now you do.

You may have guessed that already from the rather limp new features that have appeared in many of their products over the past number of years.

That's been a problem for Adobe. Few important new features means fewer upgrades. That problem is solved by making you pay a recurring fee on a subscription.

I do like the Adobe creative suite I use (non subscription). But sometimes you feel you have to spell things out for the Adobe fanboys.

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JWilkinson Studios
By JWilkinson Studios (3 months ago)

The new model not bringing any benefit is relative, they're rolled out an update week or so since i subscribed last year.

Same as any company? Adobe also has other services, specifically related to marketing. Thats probably more of the core of their business then software anyway.

Maybe I'm a fanboy, I don't really care. They put out a amazing product line that lets me do what I love. I expect them to do what it takes to stay in business and expand.
That's my goal with my business, I expect nothing less from another.

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GaryJP
By GaryJP (3 months ago)

"You can hardly call what they are doing money gouging." Yeah you can actually.

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icexe
By icexe (3 months ago)

I'm not sure I understand the need for 3D printing support in an image editing program?

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (3 months ago)

One way it's been explained is that not all 3D programs have the greatest tools for painting and finishing up a 3D model. But Photoshop has really powerful painting tools. So you bring in your model to finish it up in a way that you couldn't in a 3D program, then you print it.

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Thomas Kachadurian
By Thomas Kachadurian (3 months ago)

Are these supposed to make me want to get on the CC bandwagon. Nope.

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DaveE1
By DaveE1 (3 months ago)

Adobe have been bombarding me with all kinds of offers to switch to CC. I've quite a few suite licenses for people who work with me.

If they didn't want to dip their hand into my pocket every month, they'd have had more money from me by now.

See, most of us can do nicely without these new features, or do the same job another way. But I suppose they have shareholders they need to keep happy (and wealthy).

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GaryJP
By GaryJP (3 months ago)

Not me. I sold my Adobe stock. This reeks of desperation.

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LensBeginner
By LensBeginner (3 months ago)

Isn't 3D printing a feature that would make much more sense in a 3D CAD?
Isn't PS supposed to be an image editor?
What am I missing?

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thx1138
By thx1138 (3 months ago)

PS Extended can do some basic 3D modelling and each new version has extended the capability. It's not even remotely in the class of a stand alone CAD or 3D program of course.

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thx1138
By thx1138 (3 months ago)

Also I should have added PS can import 3D models and you can of course edit them and fine tune, them and then print them.

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EssexAsh
By EssexAsh (3 months ago)

"Adobe do something" article. Cue villagers with pitchforks and torches.

Id love to see the hate generated if Dpreview reported an Adobe update that was really useful , but released it only on an apple product.

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attomole
By attomole (3 months ago)

I wonder if DPR sometimes publish things slightly in devilment so they can rollabout laughing at some of the irrational hate remarks in the comments. I would be tempted.

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bronxbombers4
By bronxbombers4 (3 months ago)

@attomole - you had a typo there "of the irrational hate" should be "of the rational hate".

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attomole
By attomole (3 months ago)

Not so much @bronxbombers4 I stand by the statement

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tornwald
By tornwald (3 months ago)

who cares, Adobe is dead

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Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (3 months ago)

You will proven to be wrong...

Lots of people have subscribed for the 9.99 p/month deal.
Seems to be working out great for Adobe at this moment.

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dyoon153
By dyoon153 (3 months ago)

In design studios and production companies, CC subscription works. No doubt, it's not a perfect scheme for individual photographers and designers... but they certainly are far from being dead.

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bronxbombers4
By bronxbombers4 (3 months ago)

@Just a Photographer - if so then why are they desperately extending the deals again and again and again?

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caver3d
By caver3d (3 months ago)

There's one born every minute. The $9.99 deal is only good for a year, and then it goes to $19.99. P. T. Barnum was right. I will continue to use my CS6. It's more than enough.

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JWilkinson Studios
By JWilkinson Studios (3 months ago)

Maybe because they're actually somewhat interested in giving people a good deal?

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GaryJP
By GaryJP (3 months ago)

If you think Adobe is so charitable,. you are probably the only one.

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itchhh
By itchhh (3 months ago)

D.O.A. (Dead on arrival)

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Wye Photography
By Wye Photography (3 months ago)

Lightroom and Pixelmator does everything I want.

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Stefanie
By Stefanie (3 months ago)

No perpetual license, no business.
No service, no business.

For me Adobe is no viable business partner for the forseeable future.

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jadot
By jadot (3 months ago)

Should read:
No perpetual licence, you don't have photoshop
No service, what for?

Adobe was never your business partner. They're a supplier you either choose to use or don't.

This model isn't going to change in your foreseeable future.

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Michel F
By Michel F (3 months ago)

A supplier is in business as long as there are clients/customers to supply too. No customers, no suppliers. That's business model rule number 1. Everybody that purchases anything Adobe does from simple amateurs to corporations are Adobe's partner's. They should never forget that but like most quasi monopolistic corporations, they tend to do until they see important drops in their sales. Then they either adjust or die slowly.

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GaryJP
By GaryJP (3 months ago)

"This model isn't going to change in your foreseeable future."

I'd bet you are wrong.

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jadot
By jadot (3 months ago)

GaryJP: Good luck with that. Think it through - Adobe took YEARS to get to the subscription model they wanted and have ironed it out so it actually makes sense to professionals and companies. You think they are going to risk telling all of those customers that they now have to go back to buying a new license every 18-24 months?. If that appeals to you the option to stick with CS6 is already there. i.e. when CS7 would be released you'd have to pay to upgrade or moan that it's too expensive to get latest features. CC is here to stay

Michel F : Adobe does not have zero customers. It really is a minority that has complained about CC, but it's potentially the future of the majority of professional software. Customers are who a company sells a product to. If some customers stop buying the product others take their place. If they see drops in sales, they diversify. It's their product, and their business plan.

"People don't know what they want until they see it and use it" - Steve Job

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GaryJP
By GaryJP (3 months ago)

We'll see. And you'll be ticked off.

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jadot
By jadot (3 months ago)

Why would I be "ticked off"? (If we for a moment pay lip service to your desperate scenario). I'll just continue to use photoshop if I still need to use photoshop. I'm not likely to stop using the software all of a sudden!!?
Haha - I'm not in this discussion to prove that I'm right and you're wrong, I'm just looking at the most likely route that this is going. Why would I be upset if I CAN STILL USE PHOTOSHOP??!!
This is hilarious! You just said "I told you so" for something that isn't so and is unlikely to be so! Ha haha...
Not a great argument, there.

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Karl Summers
By Karl Summers (3 months ago)

Gravy on gravy.

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MiraShootsNikon
By MiraShootsNikon (3 months ago)

Blue on black, tears on a river, push on a shove: it don't mean much--joker on jack, match on a fire, cold on ice, a dead man's touch.

A whisper on a scream doesn't change a thing, it don't bring you back.

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jadot
By jadot (3 months ago)

looks good to me. Yeah yeah I know, Adobe subscriptions etc blah blah. I'll take up to date software over waiting for 2 year product cycles.

There are plenty of free alternatives if you can't afford subscription. get over it.

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Glen Barrington
By Glen Barrington (3 months ago)

So you are a heavy user of 3d printing eh? And you don't already have software to do that stuff? Sounds like dopey software bloat to me. THAT is the best they could come up with as their first effort to demonstrate how valuable a subscription could be?

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Michael Foran
By Michael Foran (3 months ago)

Exactly. It's this kind of extraneous software add-in that the CC subscription model was supposed to suppress. It's a ridiculous addition. There are SO many features and fixes I would rather have than 3D printing ability. I'm not even going to go into my wishlist, but as an After Effects user I REALLY wish Photoshop would find a way to implement live filters as a default.

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jadot
By jadot (3 months ago)

Glen.

I'm not interested in 3D at the moment, but thanks for asking. However, some are, and if Photoshop isn't the ultimate solution for 3D, it may be the best way of introducing some people to it.

There are other people in the world, you know. i don't think Adobe *only* had you in mind. Or me.

Does the addition of 3D printing stop you from doing whatever it is you need Photoshop for?

Didn't think so.

Michael.
Let me get this straight; CC was supposed to "suppress" software features and add ons, but you would like "So many features" and so on in it's place? Sense of entitlement much?

You don't HAVE to use 3D printing. It won't make photoshop NOT EDIT your photographs.

Man, photoshop is a huge program. If you don't like Adobe, fine, don't subscribe - but you can't honestly believe that additional capability is a bad thing, surely?

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (3 months ago)

This is why they want you to subscribe. How many photographers will read about these features and decide they need to upgrade right away?

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Michael Foran
By Michael Foran (3 months ago)

Yeah I thought the subscription model was supposed to be a way to get away from bold bullet point features and focus more on making the software solid at the core (which isn't a great selling point but is better for pro users).

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davidgp
By davidgp (3 months ago)

Since when does Photoshop handle 3D information?!?!? Is that new with this version or has it had that capability for some time?

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Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (3 months ago)

3D is already in since Photoshop CS6.
It sits inside the extended version.

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richardplondon
By richardplondon (3 months ago)

The CC Photoshop product includes the 3D and video tools, and other extras, for which you previously needed to have Photoshop Extended (which cost more).

Many of these extras will not typically be of much use to a stills photographer, but some may be - e.g. the "Median" method for combining time-interval stacked images.

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bronxbombers4
By bronxbombers4 (3 months ago)

It's actually had 3D for a long time, only in the Extended editions though until CS6 I believe. It's a bit of hack though since wouldn't you just use a true full on 3D rendering program instead? But I guess for those who do very little maybe it was nice to have a little built in??

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Jogger
By Jogger (3 months ago)

Dont photographers mostly use Lightroom or similar.. unless you are a graphic design or in a production environment why you would use PS in a photography workflow.

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Just a Photographer
By Just a Photographer (3 months ago)

How do you want to do image manipulation with Lightroom?
There is no layered structure available and its impossible to add objects or really change them within LR.

There is also no option to change channels or select objects.

The brush tools inside LR are more of a joke then they are really usefull. Unless you are fine with point and click editing.

LR is fine for basic editing, but for real image manipulation or advanced editing there is no way around Photoshop.

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Eric Hensel
By Eric Hensel (3 months ago)

"How do you want to do image manipulation with Lightroom?"
Like most who use it, I don't. I use it to develop, and lightly modify the images I work hard to capture.
Paint Shop Pro is more than adequate for the occasional manipulation.
YMMV, of course ;*)

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Michel F
By Michel F (3 months ago)

Use Photoshop for some time and then you'll know why.

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bronxbombers4
By bronxbombers4 (3 months ago)

Because there are tons of basic photo processing things that LR can't do. LR isn't much more than ACR really. And for photo ingestion and initial sorting it's so deadly slow! It makes you render previews for everything! Other programs let you instantly zip right through and sort on the spot without waiting.

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Dvlee
By Dvlee (3 months ago)

I ask the opposite question; Why use Lightroom when Bridge and Camera RAW can handle the same tasks of Digital Asset Management, RAW conversion and basic image processing as Lightroom, and Photoshop offers much greater image editing capabilities than LR?

PS and LR are tools, just like cameras lights and lenses, and each photographer has different need and requirement. So while Lightroom may be adequate for one, it won't meet the needs of others.

For wedding, portrait or other high volume photographers who need an efficient workflow, then LR may be the right tool. But for those who put a lot of effort into creating a small number of very complicated and creative images, efficient workflow is not an issue. Instead, they need the capabilities of Photoshop more than they need the efficient workflow of Lightroom.

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Michael Foran
By Michael Foran (3 months ago)

As a person who uses PS extensively, and was once devoutly used the PS Raw Importer, I can say that Lightroom eventually won me over. I found that I was rarely using Photoshop, and just developing the image in ACR and saving it out as a large PSD file. Yes, 95% of Lightroom's basic functionality is mirrored in ACR, but once I spent some time with it I found that it was a much more efficient environment for developing, and I could still bring pix into PS when I needed. I know there are lots of other good RAW image developers out there, but personally I like LR quite a bit. That being said I haven't seen a need to upgrade from 4 to 5. It's all bells and whistles in the upgrade.

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InTheMist
By InTheMist (3 months ago)

Adobe is dead to me.

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jadot
By jadot (3 months ago)

and you to them, no doubt. Glad you've moved on.

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bronxbombers4
By bronxbombers4 (3 months ago)

@jadot - if that were true, they wouldn't be sending non-stop offers begging those of us avoiding the rental model to join the rental model

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jadot
By jadot (3 months ago)

bronx...

I really don't care if you are or are not signed up with the CC. I am and I get the same marketing emails. I also get emails from other companies who want me to buy some sh*it from them. It's how emails work. Volume email marketing. Annoying, maybe, but I don't think Adobe are begging you specifically to 'come back - we miss you'.
I wouldn't take it so personally

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