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Steady on! Casio Exilim EX-ZR800 18x zoom gains 'five-axis stabilization'

By dpreview staff on Aug 8, 2013 at 01:00 GMT

Casio Europe has announced the Exilim EX-ZR800 - a Raw-shooting compact with multi-shot-based 'five-axis image stabilization.' The 16MP BSI-CMOS camera shares many features with the existing EX-ZR700, including the 18x, 25-400mm equivalent lens and ability to capture DNG files. The ZR800 gains the ability to shoot time-lapse sequences, along with a stabilization system that can be used for both stills and movies, on top of the usual multi-shot and high speed modes that Casio has developed over recent years.

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Press Release:

Casio Launches High Speed EXILIM with Powerful Image Stabilization

Ready to Capture High-quality Hand-held Night Scenes and Zoom Shots Equipped with Time Lapse for Playing Back Long - time Changes in a Short Time

Norderstedt , August 7 , 2013 — Casio Europe GmbH and its parent company, Casio Computer Co., Ltd., today announced the release of the EX-ZR800, a new model in its popular High Speed EXILIM line of digital cameras . With all the responsive photo - taking features of a High Speed EXILIM, the new camera also packs a powerful 18x optical zoom and comes with 5-axis, 5-stop*1 image stabilization.

With the aim of providing digital cameras that enable people to capture fleeting moments with beautiful images, Casio has been pursuing the full potential of the compact digital camera using its original high - speed technologies. This effort is based on the company's "Triple Zero" development objective, which seeks to minimize and eliminate shutter lag, out-of-focus shots, and image blurring due to camera shake.

The new EX-ZR800 uses highly advanced image stabilization technology to virtually eliminate the impact of camera shake , a common problem which has been the cause of many a ruined photograph.

A powerful 25 mm wide - angle,*2 18x optical zoom lens is fitted elegantly into the compact body. When shooting in HS Anti Shake mode, camera shake occurring along five axes*1 (Vertical Shift, Horizontal Shift , etc.) is precisely corrected. Going even further, Casio has integrated optical image stabilization (2 stops*3) with its technology for combining high-speed burst images (up to 9 shots) to achie ve stabilization equivalent to 5 stops slower*1 in terms of shutter speed. This allows users to take amazingly crisp, clear photos without a tripod — even night scenes and zoom shots — making the camera ideal for capturing images like city lights while traveli ng or zoom photos of children playing or competing in sporting events.

The new camera also features other enhanced shooting functions. This is the first EXILIM to have a Time Lapse function that allows users to capture the movement of clouds in the sky, or people and cars at an intersection, showing long-time movement sped up. Casio has added a new "sparkling shot" filter effect to ART Shot, which lets users create original artistic photos and movies. These functions make it easy to take creative shots without changing lenses or making complicated settings.

Main Features of the EX-ZR800

Powered by the new EXILIM Engine HS Ver. 3
The new cameras are equipped with EXILIM Engine HS Ver. 3 driven by a dual-CPU, two parallel image processors , a reconfigurable processor and a vector graphics core. The reconfigurable processor delivers functional and performance flexibility plus high-speed processing based on the latest technologies from Casio, while the vector graphics core smoothly produces two - dimensional images . In addition to high - speed shooting response,*4 the new models feature an intuitive display screen that is easy to view, thanks to its high - quality gra phic user interface.

Compact body with high - quality high - power zoom
The EX-ZR800 is equipped with a wide - angle 25 mm, 18x optical zoom lens. The zoom maintains super resolution image quality to a maximum zoom of 36x, thanks to Multi Frame SR Zoom technology.

HS Anti Shake performs 5 - axis, 5 - stop*5 image stabilization
Camera shake which occurs in the five axes*5 of pitch, yaw, vertical shift, horizontal shift and roll is precisely corrected. Casio has employed an optical lens that achieves stabilization equivalent to approximately 2 stops*6 slower in terms of shutter speed. Bringing this effect together with combined high-speed burst images results in image stabilization equivalent to about 5 stops slower*5 in terms of shutter speed. This allows users to minimize blur while holding the camera to take pictures, which can easily result in camera shake, even for shots of night scenes and when zooming. (Results may vary depending on the shooting environment and camera settings). In addition, the EX-ZR800 employs a lens-shift optical lens, which further reduces image blur on the LCD screen when recording movies or holding the camera.

Time Lapse plays back long - time changes in a short time for a new form of expression
The new Time Lapse feature allows users to capture the slow movement of clouds in the sky, or of people and cars on a street, and then show long-time movement sped up. The capture interval and time for clouds, night views, vehicles, street scenes and so on are preset, so all the user has to do is simply select the scene to shoot to get the optimum setting. Of course, users can also adjust the settings manually.

Triple Shot reduces shutter lag from the photographer's reflexes close to zero
The new cameras feature Triple Shot, which combines high-speed burst shooting with high-speed response for worry-free photography. The feature not only takes an image when the shutter button is pressed, but also captures images immediately before and after. As a result, Triple Shot enables users to capture decisive moments with quickly moving subjects such as children and pets.

Inset display for reviewing shots on part of the LCD screen while taking photos
The new model also features an inset display on part of the LCD screen to show images just taken. This feature is convenient for photographing children because it allows users to check each shot, while responsively ta king more pictures. Users can select from two different inset display screens.

AF - CS keeps moving subjects in focus even while continuously shooting
Casio has accelerated the frame rate in the auto focus (AF) mode and optimized the camera's lens drive control, image sensor control and AF algorithm for parallel processing of AF operations and high-speed continuous shooting. Built into the EX-ZR800, this makes it possible to achieve AF-CS up to 30 frames and as fast as five frames-per-second, which makes it possible to take clear photos of moving subjects such as children and pets.

All-In-Focus Macro and Blurred Background deliver total focus control with high - speed continuous shooting
The EX-ZR800 comes with All-In-Focus Macro, which selects only in-focus areas from continuously shot images at different focus settings to produce a composite image. This achieves photos with every area coming out in focus, from foreground subjects to far-away backgrounds, which are hard to produce using a conventional camera. Also, Casio has employed its high-speed continuous shooting technologies to create Blurred Background, an original technique for processing the background scene of a shot like the soft blur effect attainable using a single-lens reflex camera, thereby accentuating the subject of the photo. Users can select from three different processing levels of blur effects to set the background focus just as they wish.

Premium Auto Pro function produces beautiful photos with just a press of the shutter button
The Premium Auto Pro function automatically analyzes the shooting scene to choose the best settings and perform image processing. It automatically combines images from high-speed burst shooting according to shooting conditions to create gorgeous photos. Users can easily take sophisticated photos at the press of the shutter button, thanks to the automatic activation of functions such as HDR technology, which combines photos of differing exposures to handle high-contrast conditions, as well as High Speed Night Scene mode for night shots and High Speed Anti Shake for high-power zoom shooting, both of which combine highly sensitive, continuously shot images, taken with camera shake kept at a minimum, to reduce noise in the resulting image. For movies, the Premium Auto M ovie function automatically analyzes the scene to choose the best settings.

HDR technology faithfully reproduces images as they really appear, avoiding under- or over-exposure
The new model also uses HDR technology developed by Casio to allow each press of the shutter button to take several shots at different exposures and then instantly combine them into a single image with a high dynamic range. This minimizes over- exposed or under-exposed areas in the image, creating a photo that captures all the rich tonal gradation of the scene just as it appears in real life.

HS Night Shot eliminates camera shake even in dark settings
With HS Night Shot, the EX-ZR800 detects shooting conditions and conducts high-speed burst shooting of numerous frames determined automatically with a level of light sensitivity as high as ISO 25600. High-precision positioning alignment technology suppresses any low-frequency camera shake that may not be completely eliminated by the optical Anti Shake correction function. The company's latest image-processing technology also completely removes low-frequency color noise, which has typically been very difficult for cameras to eliminate. These technologies work together to produce beautiful photos with minimal blur, even in low-light conditions.

HDR - ART for creating artistic photos; freedom to create artistic images with ART Shot
Users can create artistic photos using the HDR - ART function, which combines continuous shots with differing exposures while performing advanced analysis to locally c hange the intensity of contrast and color saturation. Users can now choose from a total of five different processing levels of art effects to enjoy creating more freely expressive images. Additionally, to creat e the artistic photos of the user's preference using Art Shot, new "sparkling shot" filter effect has been added to eight different filter effect s previously available: toy camera, soft focus, light tone, pop art, sepia, monochrome, miniature and fisheye. Users can select from three different color and processing levels for each filter (select an area from six patterns for miniature) , and can view the effect on the display and adjust the result prior to actually taking a picture. Even better, all of these filters except "sparkling shot" can be used for shooting movies, too. The HDR - ART function simultaneously saves both the HDR - ART image and the standard photo with a single press of the shutter button.

Scenes come alive in their full expansiveness with the Wide Shot function
The EX-ZR800 can combine continuous shots taken with high-speed continuous shooting when the user is moving the camera, enabling powerful super-wide-angle shots. Users can select wide-angle shooting modes equivalent to 15 mm or 19 mm.

Slide Panorama captures 360 - degree panoramic images
The Slide Panorama function detects moving subjects and faces and adjusts them appropriately as the camera is moved, allowing users to create more natural-looking panoramic images just by panning the camera across a scene.

Mode dial for rapid access to shooting modes
The camera is fitted with a mode dial that lets users quickly choose from several shooting modes.

High-resolution 3.0-inch 920K LCD
The EX-ZR800 boasts a high-resolution 3.0-inch LCD with 920,000 pixels, displaying captured images beautifully on the screen. EX-ZR800.

*1. When optical image stabilization and technology for combining high-speed burst images are used together. Based on a Casio survey .
*2 When converted to 35mm film format
*3 CIPA standard (340mm when converted to 35 mm film format).
*4 Start-up time of 1.3 seconds, high-speed auto focus time of 0.18 seconds, shutter response of only 0.016 seconds, and a capture interval of as short as 0.26 seconds. These times are CIPA standard compliant
*5. When optical image stabilization and technology for combining high-speed burst images are used together, Based on a Casio survey .
*6 . CIPA standard (340mm when converted to 35 mm film format).

Casio Exilim EX-ZR800 specifications

Body type
Body typeCompact
Sensor
Max resolution4608 x 3456
Other resolutions4608 x 3072, 4608 x 2592, 3648 x 2736 x 2560 x 1920, 2048 x 1536, 640 x 480
Image ratio w:h4:3, 3:2, 16:9
Effective pixels16 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors17 megapixels
Sensor size1/2.3" (6.17 x 4.55 mm)
Sensor typeCMOS
Processor EXILIM Engine HS 3
Image
ISOAuto, 80, 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200
White balance presets6
Custom white balanceYes (1)
Image stabilizationSensor-shift
Uncompressed formatNo
File format
  • JPEG 2.3
  • RAW
Optics & Focus
Focal length (equiv.)25–450 mm
Optical zoom18×
Maximum apertureF3.5 - F5.9
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Tracking
  • Face Detection
Autofocus assist lampYes
Digital zoomYes (4x)
Manual focusYes (Approx. 2cm to infinity (W))
Normal focus range50 cm (19.69)
Macro focus range4 cm (1.57)
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDFixed
Screen size3
Screen dots921,600
Touch screenNo
Screen typeSuper Clear TFT color LCD
Live viewNo
Viewfinder typeNone
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed4 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/2000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Program AE
  • Aperture Priority AE
  • Shutter Speed Priority AE
  • Manual Exposure
Scene modes
  • Auto mode
  • Premium Auto PRO
  • Snapshot by Super resolution technology(Multi Frame)
  • Macro
  • Super Macro
  • Blurred Background
  • Slide Panorama
  • Wide Shot
  • HS Night Shot
Built-in flashYes
Flash range4.70 m
External flashNo
Flash modesAuto, On, Off, Red-Eye
Drive modes
  • Single
  • Continuous shooting
  • Self-timer
Continuous drive3 fps
Self-timerYes (2 or 10 seconds, custom)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Center-weighted
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±2 (at 1/3 EV steps)
WB BracketingNo
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 (30 fps), 1280 x 720 (30,20,15 fps), 640 x 480 (30, 120 fps), 512 x 384 (30, 240 fps), 224 x 160 (480 fps), 224 x 64 (1000 fps),
FormatMPEG-4, H.264
MicrophoneStereo
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesSD/SDHC/SDXC
Storage included49.9MB
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes (mini)
Remote controlNo
Physical
Environmentally sealedNo
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionLithium-ion NP-130 rechargeable battery & charger
Battery Life (CIPA)470
Weight (inc. batteries)222 g (0.49 lb / 7.83 oz)
Dimensions108 x 60 x 31 mm (4.25 x 2.36 x 1.22)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
Timelapse recordingYes
GPSNone

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Comments

Total comments: 83
Octo
By Octo (8 months ago)

I like the idea of a brute force processor on a tiny sensor. 30 fps, and slomo video, no cell phone does that (and no dslr...). That hopeless lens is the issue, shorter zom, wider aperture, and manual shutter control in slo mo video and this could be a good one.

0 upvotes
GCHYBA
By GCHYBA (8 months ago)

I have the 700, it's the ONLY camera that can capture 30 frames in one second and has easy to use HDR in many levels. Love it.

1 upvote
peevee1
By peevee1 (8 months ago)

They small camera business would not survive much longer if they don't join some established mirrorless system (they don't have IP for DSLRs), and switch their fixed-lens lines to the same bigger sensor. So far they are only in small sensor compacts which has imploded.

2 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (8 months ago)

I'll hold off on this. There's likely to be a phone with 10-axis stabilization by Christmas.

2 upvotes
mrdancer
By mrdancer (8 months ago)

Hmmm, 5-axis stabilization...

B-b-b-b-b-b-but......, image blur hides the noise! :)

Lotsa nice features/tricks in this camera, but nothing that couldn't be done by Android apps. Still waiting for more decent cameras to utilize Android OS so we can have some real individuality and creativity via various apps.

I would be very happy if the Panny FZ300 bridge had latest Android OS, 1/1.7" sensor and 18x zoom, while maintaining F2 throughout.

p.s. - the 'droid cameras also need onboard GPS/gyros for shooting geocoded panoramas!

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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keeponkeepingon
By keeponkeepingon (8 months ago)

Android can do OIS with an app? Slick.....

0 upvotes
mrdancer
By mrdancer (8 months ago)

K.o.k.o,
I guess you missed my point. Perhaps since I mentioned Android, you thought I was talking about phone cameras?

This has nothing to do with phone cameras.

I am talking about melding two technologies: 1) cameras that have typical useful stuff that we are used to, like OIS, and 2) a decent OS. That gives you the best of both worlds - cameras that have quality lenses/optics plus ability to develop creativity with the apps via an OS. Imagine having your favorite camera and still being able to do cool things like very custom timelapses, geocoded panoramas, etc. without having to do post-processing or lugging lots of equipment around.

0 upvotes
panoviews
By panoviews (8 months ago)

Also the marketing department needs a 5-axis-stabilzation. At least Panasonic seems to stabilized with the GX7. OMG, who needs al this camera crap...

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sportyaccordy
By sportyaccordy (8 months ago)

IS is OK, but is kind of unnecessary if you make the sensor fast to begin with. Obv a totally different market/class, but many high end FX lenses don't even have IS. It's only for certain standard zooms and the big tele lenses. They should be focusing on making bigger sensors for cheap and getting more light onto them, rather than making them with more features

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DZacco
By DZacco (8 months ago)

Tilt Screen LCD or not? Specs say it is but description doesn't mention it, nor does the picture show it. I might try this camera for ~$150 as long as it was returnable within 30 days. Why does Casio even bother with something so mediocre?

0 upvotes
Richard Butler
By Richard Butler (8 months ago)

No, it isn't. I'll correct the specs as soon as I can.

0 upvotes
Photomonkey
By Photomonkey (8 months ago)

Much stinky snark about today.
SO.... everyone feeling better now that they have paraded their photo guru pretensions?
Always great to see people reaching for the same old tools of derision to mock a device that have not seen nor used.
Bonus for the insights as to what the manufacturer should be doing and how they are mucking it up.
Perhaps you could forward a few prototypes of your genius device along with your certificates of rigorous internet forum training.

7 upvotes
AstroStan
By AstroStan (8 months ago)

So do you feel better now after those insults? Kind of like the people you are insulting?

Such reprimands have little affect on the many useless emotional "opinions" here. The signal to noise in this forum seems to get lower and lower. And yes I realize this post is also a useless churn <g>.

2 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (8 months ago)

Be patient. I have no doubt DP Review will find a lot to like about this product. As for the comments, manufacturers spend a lot to find out what potential consumers think. Here, they're getting that information for free.

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Ishatix
By Ishatix (8 months ago)

"I have no doubt DP Review will find a lot to like about this product."

I very much hope you are right and DPR take the time to review this but considering they don't appear to have reviewed any of the previous Casio cameras I don't hold out much hope.

0 upvotes
hautesauce
By hautesauce (8 months ago)

first, PM, you wrote what i was thinking when i was reading the comments!

second, while i would like to see a review of the casio, i would rather see how it holds up against a very similar P & S, the fujifilm F800EXR.

I currently carry the F600EXR in my pocket most of the time (just in case.like the way my grandfather carried a minox every day of his life).

oh, and before you phone zealots tell me all i need is sip the koolaid, all three mentioned cameras have a raw/uncompressed format...

0 upvotes
VadymA
By VadymA (8 months ago)

Nice features paired with rather mediocre lens IMO. Although the IQ still should be MUCH better than a smartphone. Depending on the price, this might be a good alternative to a phone for a casual shooter.

0 upvotes
mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (8 months ago)

They say that Image Stabilization is ideal for "zoom photos of children playing or competing in sporting events."

That is an out right lie. Image stabilization does nothing for moving subjects. It only helps if the camera is shaking and the subject is stationary.

Companies have misled consumers for too long. It is time that it stopped. I hope that Dpreview will call them out on this one day.

9 upvotes
whtchocla7e
By whtchocla7e (8 months ago)

What does image stabilization have to do with moving subjects?

Are you saying the camera doesn't shake when people take photos of moving subjects? That's amazing!!

2 upvotes
mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (8 months ago)

No. They clearly state that image Stabilization will help with fast action subjects. That is a false statement.

3 upvotes
JacobSR
By JacobSR (8 months ago)

In low light situations without using flash, image stabilization is helpful whether the subject is moving or not.

0 upvotes
Timmbits
By Timmbits (8 months ago)

Casio: still packing features into a camera with a sensor too small.

sales are plummeting... and they still don't get it!

2 upvotes
audijam
By audijam (8 months ago)

their market concentration is in asia...tryx is selling over $1000 USD there. yes shiettty camera but it sells very very very well. they are counting cash while you think they are flunking...

2 upvotes
mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (8 months ago)

They claim to have done everything to make this camera able to "capture decisive moments with quickly moving subjects such as children and pets" and yet they have done nothing to improve its light gathering capabilities.

Focal Ratio and Sensor Efficiency is the only thing that truly affects low light shooting.

2 upvotes
mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (8 months ago)

I love how companies make IS look like the end all be all when it only helps if the subject doesn't move.

1 upvote
peevee1
By peevee1 (8 months ago)

Depends on effective FL. If your lens is 450mm eq (like here), very respectable 1/400 requires stabilization (and actually even 1/1000 if you want to try and take advantage of all those insane megapixels).

0 upvotes
audijam
By audijam (8 months ago)

maybe you guys should check out the price for TRYX series...

0 upvotes
mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (8 months ago)

You wouldn't need that 5 axis stabilization if it had better than an F3.5 - F5.9 lens.

1 upvote
whtchocla7e
By whtchocla7e (8 months ago)

small sensor, no care

1 upvote
D1N0
By D1N0 (8 months ago)

Casio operates in the piece of the market that is taking the biggest hit from smart phones. This is a camera you could buy from any of the other brands. When is Casio disappearing?

1 upvote
Louschro
By Louschro (8 months ago)

Reading the description my understanding of the 5-axis-stabilisation is, that the claimed 5 stops advantage is gained from a combination of optical stabilisation (2 stops) and combining multiple shots from a burst (3 stops). There is no stabilization by sensor shift like mentioned in the specifications. The website of casio proofs this.

What can we expect from this new technology?

1 upvote
Revenant
By Revenant (8 months ago)

That's what I thought. Olympus and Panasonic already have released travel zooms with that kind of "false" 5-axis IS. No idea if it works well, though.

0 upvotes
Louschro
By Louschro (8 months ago)

May be we will get strobo effects of moving objects.

0 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (8 months ago)

Just surprise they are still around.

Why bother with another "me too" product.

2 upvotes
robbo d
By robbo d (8 months ago)

US $648 on ebay..............ouch

4 upvotes
robbo d
By robbo d (8 months ago)

Ok, so it's a compact of which there is plenty out there. But if you read the article, then its packing some pretty good features which will let you take photos in all situations.
Low light multi shot and two different HDR settings, RAW, high resolution multi shot, 360 panorama, very good image stabilisation, 36x zoom with multi shot higher res once more and time lapse.
Be interesting to see how this works in real life, but looks like the compact back up that fits my bill.......not being an avid movie maker anyway.
Sure the Nokia 1020 looks great, but still wont' surpass this function set.
Yes, would like to see the RRP$$

3 upvotes
Johan Borg
By Johan Borg (8 months ago)

Not just any RAW, but DNG so it should be compatible with most software from launch day.

3 upvotes
Francis Carver
By Francis Carver (8 months ago)

Wow, a 1/2.3-inch CMOS sensor P&S with an 18x range fixed mini zoom that is F3.5-5,.9, huh? Gee-whiz, weren't like 10 of these released by others just this week alone? Cameras like this one from Casio will quickly convince most folks to just go ahead and shoot their pix with their smart-class cell phones and advanced phone cameras.

On technical merits, I love the ZR800's uncanny ability to shoot 720-line resolution video at the amazing frame rates of 20 fps and 15 fps. There must be a huge pent-up demand for these lower frame rates, right?

Also, just how long does a product press release have to be? This one had a beginning -- but almost no end to it. If I were a manufacturer, I would test DP Review and send them a 100,000-word press release -- let's see if we would see that one reproduced here wholly unedited. We probably would.

With all of its verboseness, Casio found no space to insert the thingy's price, wow.

7 upvotes
backayonder
By backayonder (8 months ago)

Looks very much like a microwave oven from the rear so not very good for those who like Raw.

11 upvotes
limlh
By limlh (8 months ago)

With its expertise in consumer electronics, Casio shows it has the potential to produce top notch digital cameras.

3 upvotes
Digital Shutterbug
By Digital Shutterbug (8 months ago)

According to the specifications page, it doesn't have LIve View, and it has no viewfinder. Framing must be a real chore.

2 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (8 months ago)

why should anyone need a viewfinder on a digital camara? or
why people needed and invented viewfinder?

Comment edited 7 minutes after posting
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chlamchowder
By chlamchowder (8 months ago)

I think you're supposed to line that little light up with the shutter button...that gives you a rudimentary sight that you can use to aim.

And every photographer has the FOV of every focal length memorized, so no problem, right?

2 upvotes
backayonder
By backayonder (8 months ago)

You are young aren't you?

1 upvote
JadedGamer
By JadedGamer (8 months ago)

Live view is a term applicable to SLRs only; for mirrorless or compacts where the light always hits the sensor anyway, the term is moot. But I do realize you were joking. :)

0 upvotes
makofoto
By makofoto (8 months ago)

Why all the hate for a camera that folks use for snap shots and who don't really care about ultimate quality. Lets face it, all of those DSLR's that one sees on all the tourists at National Parks, etc ... are almost always set on "A" for Auto.

10 upvotes
yabokkie
By yabokkie (8 months ago)

so who will be the first to make a six-axis stabilization?
E-M5: 5-axis
E-M6: 6-axis
E-M7: 7-axis
...

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Artistico
By Artistico (8 months ago)

I think they'll be running out of axes soon... Proper gyro stabilisers are the next logical step: OM-D E-M6-G

0 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (8 months ago)

6-axis stabilization would be useful for handheld macro but nothing else. Maybe the 6th direction should just be implemented in macro lenses, no new mechanics required, just shift focus a little to compensate for movement. Combined with E-M5/E-P5, such macro lens would be awesome - real macro without tripod.
I should apply for a patent. :)

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caver3d
By caver3d (8 months ago)

Sorry, but you need to "reduce it to practice" (demonstrate it). Otherwise you will not get the patent.

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tkbslc
By tkbslc (8 months ago)

Casio? Are they still around?

2 upvotes
Mahmoud Mousef
By Mahmoud Mousef (8 months ago)

If memory serves, they were first with high speed shooting modes which other manufacturers eventually copied.

4 upvotes
backayonder
By backayonder (8 months ago)

They made great calculators

1 upvote
likeafoxow
By likeafoxow (8 months ago)

They MAKE great calculators

2 upvotes
ludwik123
By ludwik123 (8 months ago)

My 20 year old casio calculator still works.
Can anyone say the same about 20 year old digital cameras ?

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JadedGamer
By JadedGamer (8 months ago)

Yes, they make some of the most feature-rich compacts around.

1 upvote
Vergilius
By Vergilius (8 months ago)

Does Casino make a calculator/camera combo? Think of the possibilities on exams with a 40x zoom!

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Revenant
By Revenant (8 months ago)

"Does Casino make a calculator/camera combo?"

The equivalence people would have a field day with that!

3 upvotes
Camediadude
By Camediadude (8 months ago)

Wait, so if I am skimming correctly, then this new Casio Exilim compact does NOT have the trademark high speed shutter for filming slow motion video like many of the Exilims of recent years before it have had?

If not, then too bad.I know many people are wishing for a new model like that which features manual shutter speed control for high speed filming once again, like the early models had.

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makofoto
By makofoto (8 months ago)

? Specs show it does the typical Casio slo mo at the expense of resolution

0 upvotes
trekkeruss
By trekkeruss (8 months ago)

IMO the 5-axis IS is not the news here, but the fact that RAW is offered. I do not know if the target consumer cares about RAW, but as far as I know, this is the only travel zoom to offer it.

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Revenant
By Revenant (8 months ago)

No, Fuji's travel zooms (F900EXR and several of its predecessors) have RAW. Casio have had it in several models too, including ZR700 and ZR1000. Unfortunately, DPR's database says that they haven't, but that's wrong. Casio's own product pages states that they have RAW.

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
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SirSeth
By SirSeth (8 months ago)

I would have thought Olympus had patented the 5-axis IS through the roof. Do you think they are sharing with Casio in some joint venture?

Of course this is better than a cell phone, and the super zoom lens dictates a small sensor. There are trade offs for all cameras.

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Raist3d
By Raist3d (8 months ago)

There can be more than one way to do 5 axis. 5 Axis IBIS as a concept is hardly "hard to think by." And Pentax already had more than 2 axis already including tilt.

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Revenant
By Revenant (8 months ago)

The question is if this is "true" 5-axis IS. Both Olympus and Panasonic have released compacts with 5-axis IS, and neither implemented it in the same way as E-M5 and E-P5. It was just regular stabilization enhanced by some digital wizardry. Casio is known for just that kind of image processing, so I think this is similar. Seriously doubt that this camera has a floating sensor like the E-M5.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (8 months ago)

It clearly states in the release that it is not true 5-axis:
"Casio has employed an optical lens that achieves stabilization equivalent to approximately 2 stops*6 slower in terms of shutter speed. Bringing this effect together with combined high-speed burst images results in image stabilization equivalent to about 5 stops slower"

It is 2 or 3 axis combined with "multishot nightime mode".

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Camediadude
By Camediadude (8 months ago)

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Mikhail Tal
By Mikhail Tal (8 months ago)

Another tiny sensor camera. Will these idiots ever learn? It can't even beat the image quality of a cellphone.

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Lukino
By Lukino (8 months ago)

because everybody want to carry around a Leica S2 as compact camera

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Revenant
By Revenant (8 months ago)

One of the features that many people want, and which smartphones don't offer, is a long zoom range in a small format. You can't have that with a large sensor, at least not without making the lens ridiculously slow.

The manufacturers are just trying to exploit those parts of the compact market, that the smartphones can't yet compete with, like long zooms, rugged cams, enthusiast compacts.

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jcmarfilph
By jcmarfilph (8 months ago)

If you are talking about Nokia Pureview phones then yes. Anything else especially iPhone is a garbage.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (8 months ago)

Actually, f/2 lens on a smartphone's 1/3" sensor beats f/3.3 lens on P&S 1/2.3" sensor. If you don't need zoom that is.

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utomo99
By utomo99 (8 months ago)

Why Casio did not try the Compact Camera with Big sensor ?
The trend now is Compact Camera with Big Sensor and fast lens

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monkeybrain
By monkeybrain (8 months ago)

The Sony RX100 and its sequel do not equal a trend. Fast lenses are a trend, but haven't they always been?

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Revenant
By Revenant (8 months ago)

Large sensor compacts is also a trend (not just RX100, but Canon G1 X, Ricoh GR, Nikon A, Fuji X100S, Leica X2, Leica X Vario, Sigma DP Merrills, Sony RX1), but not in the long zoom category, to which this camera belong.

You can't easily have both large sensor/fast lens and long zoom/pocketability. At least one of those four features will have to be compromised.

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MrTritium
By MrTritium (8 months ago)

So Casio can put a 5 axis stabilisation on a 200$ p&s, but Nikon and Canon won't equip ANY of their cameras with one. Why? Same remark for Fuji and sony with their mirrorless cameras.

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RichRMA
By RichRMA (8 months ago)

Because then they couldn't charge 30% more for lenses with $10 extra worth of electronics in them.

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dara2
By dara2 (8 months ago)

This
http://www.sony-mea.com/microsite/dslr/09/A900/images/a900/1-1/1-1_09.jpg

would have to fit in RX1 or this
http://www.sony-mea.com/microsite/dslr/09/A900/images/a900/1-1/1-1_10.jpg
would have to fit in the NEX

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peevee1
By peevee1 (8 months ago)

It is not really 5-axis (as in Olympus E-M5 and E-P5), it is (at least from their description) 3 axis (yaw, pitch, roll) as in Pentax combined with multishot combination of several sequential frames shot at higher shutter speed (similar to "nighttime handheld shot" mode in Sony etc cameras). The end result is probably the same as "5 axis" in Olympus SH-50 (the sensor is the same).
For good results the latter requires REALLY high sensor readout speed, with full-frame readouts on the order or 0.1s (as in everything bigger than Aptina 1" sensors) it does not work with moving subjects.

Comment edited 2 minutes after posting
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xmeda
By xmeda (8 months ago)

F3.5-5.9?
1/2.33?

omg

Create the same with 1/1.7", 12Mpix, 25-150/2.8-4 and I'll buy another Casio to my two older.

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (8 months ago)

1/1.7" sensor, 20+MP for the moment,
f/1.9 lens,
80 base ISO, looks good to me
(it will have high image quality as ISO1600 on 35mm format)

Comment edited 1 minute after posting
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theranman
By theranman (8 months ago)

I don't get Casio's product numbering strategy. Is this ZR800 below the older ZR1000 flagship? What up wit dat?

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Revenant
By Revenant (8 months ago)

I guess this replaces ZR700, which was below ZR1000. We'll probably get a new "flagship" too.

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