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Just posted: Canon EOS 100D / Rebel SL1 Review

By dpreview staff on Jul 26, 2013 at 03:00 GMT
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We just posted our Canon EOS 100D / Rebel SL1 review. Canon's smallest SLR to date was built to take on mirrorless cameras while maintaining the optical viewfinder and compatibility with the company's existing suite of lenses. We put it through its paces in a busy family environment to see how well it held up in the type of setting its most likely to encounter. Click through for our review.

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marike6
By marike6 (9 months ago)

Now that this camera got a Gold Award, maybe Canon will use this same sensor for another five years.

But seriously, I handled this camera at Costco the other day, and the body is really quite nice. IQ is behind it's competitors but at the entry level this may not matter since images at lower ISOs do look very good.

The problem is lenses. The lenses I'd be interested in mounting like the new Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 or the excellent EF 70-200 f/4 would balance extremely poorly. The shallow grip helps keep the SL1 small, but ultimately hurts ergonomics. In this case a standard Rebel T5i / 700D or 70D would be a significantly better choice.

Many assume (including DPR) that small size is desirable, but it only helps portability. That's it. And since the SL1 is not pocketable anyway, the sacrifice in handling is really all for naught.

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MichaelKJ
By MichaelKJ (9 months ago)

I think most of us appreciate lighter weight cameras even if we can't fit them into our pockets. I don't think I'm the only one who frequently tosses a small camera into my day pack.

6 upvotes
Houseqatz
By Houseqatz (9 months ago)

you're not the only one =]

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (9 months ago)

Lenses that are too big for the camera is a common problem, unfortunately. I remember the first time I saw a Sony mirrorless and thought, I see the lens but where is the camera? No doubt this is one reason people take pictures with phones.

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DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (9 months ago)

Actually I shot the 70-200mm F4L with the SL1 quite a bit, and it was fine. You tend to hold the lens more than the grip, of course. Since I almost always shoot with the lens hood, it looks a bit funny, but if I get good shots I tend not to care about other appearances.

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (9 months ago)

I don't want a lighter camera. I want lighter lenses.

5 upvotes
BJL
By BJL (9 months ago)

@ Shawn Barnett: I agree with you; in my experience long or heavy lenses are supported by the left under under the lens, making "balance" and "small grip" complaints irrelevant. So why do DPReviews so often have "Cons" like:
- Grip may be insufficient for use with larger lenses
(Actually, I support all my interchangeable lens cameras mostly by the lens, not the body.)

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marike6
By marike6 (9 months ago)

@BJL

Yes you do support the lens with your left hand, but a deeper grip allows you to get more leverage with your right hand to take some of the load off your left. Make sense?

Lenses that don't balance well on smaller bodies, even some standard zooms or the popular 17-40 f/4 L make the whole camera tip forward or feel front heavy.

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BJL
By BJL (9 months ago)

@marik6: If the camera tips forward with a certain left-hand position then moving the left hand forward can fix that. This "balance" problem is just a "you're not holding it right" problem as far as I can tell. I have used a rather small and light Olympus OM-D E-M5 with the relatively massive Olympus 50-200/2.8-3.5 plus mount adaptor, and it does not tip forward once my hand is positioned suitably.

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DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (9 months ago)

@BJL: I put that note in there knowing that despite my positive experience and general lack of trouble, not everyone will think the same. I think the small grip will be an issue for some, who may hold cameras differently,

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AP7
By AP7 (9 months ago)

What is the point of mounting Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 or EF 70-200 f/4 with this camera? Why not considering other appropriate (bigger camera in your view that is bigger in size and has deeper grip) camera if you like to mount those lenses?

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Dimit
By Dimit (9 months ago)

A nice camera,nothing special,a tiny step forward due to smaller dimentions,accountable IQ as always (disregarding DXO'S ratings,considering it as being a proNIKON site),offers a tiny less extras,in line with Canon's philosophy to give as much as they want you to pay for the amount they consider is a fair consideration for what you get.
But..this is not EVOLUTION! Evolution is better sensors(Sony leads the way},DELETE of mirrors and stuff,evf vs ovf( full info data,resolution climbing over,see GX7!),smaller and manageable.I bet by the next decade 90% of the cameras will be mirrorless-compact-interchangeable lenses gears.Let the dinausaurs show off their tools and be happy!

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (9 months ago)

Who said anything about evolution? It's a proven design (SLR) made as small as they can make it, nothing more. When something comes along that is so dramatcially better that it will make sense to unload all your lenses for pennies, then maybe people will want to evolve.

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Gesture
By Gesture (9 months ago)

A small step for Canon; a giant leap for photography. This is Canon's style-solid, reasonable, continuous improvement. I do give Fuji credit for trying to improve viewfinders and Sony for trying out SLT and the non-conventionally styled NEX cameras.

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123Mike
By 123Mike (9 months ago)

"it’s usable enough that I felt more comfortable shooting in live view mode than I normally do - a first for a digital SLR of any make."

The Sony SLTs have had this for like 2.5 years already.
Even the older Sonys had full live-view, since the A300.

Ok, this Canon is a nice product. The lack of a flip out screen really sucks though. The Sony have a very hand pull out screen, much handier than flipping it on the left side.
Also, many of the Sonys do 60p video. All with full time continuous AF tracking of course.

Nice Canon camera, but people accustomed to the Sonys it's just a been-there-done-that thing.

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zigi_S
By zigi_S (9 months ago)

Obviously you don't know what your are writting. Literaly. Sony has SLTs not DSLRs!!!!

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ProfHankD
By ProfHankD (9 months ago)

"Sony has SLTs not DSLRs!!!!" -- Now they have SLTs -- and are near the end of that tech. Before that, they had DSLRs with full-featured live view (including PDAF) in models like the A350 using a second sensor pointed at the viewscreen. Sony's 2-3 complete technology life cycles ahead of Canon on this!

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RedFox88
By RedFox88 (9 months ago)

Sony's SLT is not an SLR. Understand that is the first step.

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BJL
By BJL (9 months ago)

The reviewer was probably using "DSLR" to refer only to cameras that feed an optical viewfinder with the reflex system, but the definition of "Single Lens Reflex" camera does not involve the viewfinder being optical; that just happens to have been the case with all SLRs till recently. Sony's SLTs meet all the defining features of "Single Lens Reflex": "single lens" means that there is not a separate lens for the viewfinder (in contrast with "twin lens reflex"), and they use a "reflex" (mirror) system to enable that.

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123Mike
By 123Mike (9 months ago)

That's right. People keep parroting back how the SLT are not SLRs, which is flat out false. A Sony SLT *IS* an SLR. Period.

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RedFox88
By RedFox88 (9 months ago)

The R stands for Reflex, reflecting light up into the viewfinder. Sony's design reflects nothing which is why they have the T for translucent. Whine all you want it's not an SLR but it is SLR style like some P&S cameras are SLR style but not SLRs.

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Eleson
By Eleson (9 months ago)

Are you implying that the reviewer is not up to date on stuff outside the Canon world ...?
But you need to be corrected on one thing:
"All with full time continuous PDAF tracking of course."

Not all cameras support action shooting from waist level using LiveView.

But if you use C or N then you would never try it, and therefore never miss it nor appreciate it. It is a bias that is hard to avoid. Just like testing a body of the same system that you use privately. Then you can put on your favorite lens and enjoy that lens. On other brands you don't even have a favorite lens...

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123Mike
By 123Mike (9 months ago)

You're wrong RedFox88, because the Sony does reflect light to a different path than to the sensor. That prism takes a portion of the incoming light and reflect it towards the pdaf sensors.
No amount of distortions or excuses is going to change the fact that the Sony SLTs are SLR.

And am I implying that the reviewer is not up to date? If he or she is making claims that are incorrect, then it's pretty clear that that reviewer is not up to date.

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rrccad
By rrccad (9 months ago)

actually 123Mike - even Sony calls them SLT's .. you'd think they'd know that they are SLR's if they are not. the reflex part of the camera is the main mirror assembly - not the semi-transparent fixed place mirror to handle PDAF - it's because the optical image is REFLECTed back to the user via the mirror and pentaprism (or pentamirror) back to the user so they see the visual representation of what the camera will take as far as a picture.

there is no image reflection back to the user in an SLT design since it uses an EVF and image off the sensor.

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Plastek
By Plastek (9 months ago)

rrccad -let's put it this way: SLTs are a sub-group of SLRs (basically: And SLR with EVF)
Kinda like Rangefinders are a sub-group of Mirrorless (basically: a mirrorless with rangefinder focusing), even though many people argue that Leica rangefinders in no way are mirrorless cameras.

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oselimg
By oselimg (9 months ago)

DSLR or mirrorles neither is pocketable and the size comparison between them is IMHO senseless.

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mister_roboto
By mister_roboto (9 months ago)

It's not so much really about putting a camera in your pocket, as much as a smaller size and weight with mirrorless. I never understood why people want to put an interchangeable lens camera in their pocket- just do point and shoot then.

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BJN
By BJN (9 months ago)

Too much is made about the size of the camera body. If you're looking to lighten the load, look at the lenses you'll be using too.

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (9 months ago)

Unless you're trying to jam that camera in the smallest camera bag you can find so that you're not carrying a huge camera bag around with you on your vacation.

The small body + the 18-135mm stm lens, to me, is very intriguing.

Just wondering if there is an ever-ready case out there for that combo somewhere.

:)

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Plastek
By Plastek (9 months ago)

@BJN - lenses are rarely an issue. If you want less weight - just take less lenses. (either go with 2-3 instead of 5-6 or go with one zoom that covers a range you need)
I learned that not so long ago during my photo expedition into the mountains. Picked 6 lenses with myself initially but on an actual walks I rarely got more than 2. This way I got perfect set for everything I needed that weighted next to nothing :)

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Petrogel
By Petrogel (9 months ago)

Choosing Canon 650D in one of the quarters at the comparison chart, you will see significant difference (for the worst) between the older models versus the newer, like 700D and 100D, is there something wrong ?

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (9 months ago)

Great review Dpreview. I can disagree with your conclusions and still recognize that it was a very well executed review.

The movie section was exceptional. The sample videos were expertly demonstrated and extremely useful.

Keep up the great work. We all talk like it is easy to make these reviews but in fact I know how much effort you all had to put into it to make a thorough review like this.

8 upvotes
mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (9 months ago)

I fail to see any advantage the SL1 has over the Olympus EPL-5. The Olympus is less expensive, MUCH smaller, has a tilt screen, has better image quality, has better focus in videos, and has a much faster burst mode.

I like the SL1. It looks like it does a great job focusing in live view with the couple lenses that AF actually works with.

This would have been an outstanding camera about 3 years ago.

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Gesture
By Gesture (9 months ago)

On the one hand, this is the way Canon thinks. On the other, if one already has Canon lenses, it can be appealing. I'm not a big fan of the Sony NEX cameras, but I give Sony credit for trying something different, including styling. It's the interface that is deterring.

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marike6
By marike6 (9 months ago)

Let me see if I can help. The E-PL5:
* is extremely fiddly with the only command dial the dial around the four-way controller.
* is too small for most adult male hands
* has poor handling and too shallow grip
* the LCD is poor, only 460 K
* the 4:3 aspect ratio gives horrible black bars down the sides of the 16:9 format LCD making the actual viewing area tiny
* no built in eye-level finder
* AF is only fast in bright light. In low light it hunts.
* The Canon's Phase Detect AF provides far better AF Tracking
* Video quality is better on the SL1, and frame rates like 24p make it suitable for a production environment (B camera)
* better DOF control for the Canon
* cleaner RAW files at base ISO (ISO 100 vs ISO 200 for the E-PL5) for the Canon. Shadows can be noisy even at base ISO on the Olympus
* the EPL5's smaller size is only an advantage for transporting your camera, not for shooting.
* EF mount better supported with far lower prices than the extremely expensive m43 lenses

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marike6
By marike6 (9 months ago)

Forgot to mention, the E-PL5 shoots 8 fps with AF and exposure locked (fairly useless). With full AF, the E-PL5 shoots 3.5 fps compared to 4 fps burst mode for the 100D / SL1.

The E-PL5's 8 fps is only to pad specs in ads. The Nikon V1 shoots 60 fps with AF locked, but Nikon doesn't go around bragging that it shoots 60 fps burst rate.

I had the E-PL5 for two weeks before selling it on Ebay at a loss. IQ was good (except for the extremely warm color bias) but it was just too small and fiddly for me.

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white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

I can't disagree with both Gesture and marike6.

A DSLR camera always has the advantage over the mirrorless in terms of handling, focus tracking, better image quality due to the larger sensor and a wider and cheaper selection of lenses. It is at least 2 stop better at the higher ISO and has better dynamic range.

I have both a full frame DSLR (5D MkII) and a micro 4/3 camera (Lumix GF1) and I have 5 years of experience on both. For serious shooting, nothing beats a DSLR. If one is shooting sports, one may even need the Canon 1DX for its fast response. However, for intrepid street photography, a micro 4/3 may be better. It is definitely better if you are trekking up a mountain. It is also better for long exposure night photography as there is no camera shake due to mirror bounce. In a DSLR, one has to lock up the mirror to avoid this problem.

For video, it all depends which DSLR body and lens one is using. The 5DMkII is already working fine 5 years ago.

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white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

Professionals seldom use auto focus for video. They prefer using manual focus lenses for better control. Give a novice a manual focus lens and he will flip.

When one is shooting a movie or documentary, one normally shoot short "cuts" of various angles to be edited later into a meaningful sequence. No professionals will shoot continuously unless they are in a newsroom or to record animal behavior.

The way things are done and the skill level required is so different.

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RedFox88
By RedFox88 (9 months ago)

white shadow: yes. Autofocus for movies is a no-no unless you want the MTV focus popping in and out look. Movies are manual focus which is why Canon's cinema lenses have a large diameter focus ring to aid in manual focusing.

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Plastek
By Plastek (9 months ago)

Yea, only you forget that Professionals use PROFESSIONAL RIGS for focusing. I don't have 1000$ to spend nor skill to operate these with both hands. Heck: more than often in film industry there's a separate person dedicated ONLY to focusing. I can't afford that, no way.

That's why I need a camera that does AF in video for me. And sure, there are option that allow you to avoid "MTV-style", for example Sony's SLTs with PDAF in video. :)

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ProfHankD
By ProfHankD (9 months ago)

A little pro-Canon bias here?

In the comparison tool, the NEX F3 seems to beat the 100D by a small margin (although the NEX does more smoothing at higher ISOs), but the ratings for IQ of the 100D are MUCH higher in the summary at the end of the review.

I'm not saying this Canon is bad, but I don't think Canon's sensors are really keeping up with Sony's -- and DxOMark agrees. From DxOMark, 100D:F3 --
Overall 63:73, Color Depth 21.8:22.7, Dynamic Range 11.3:12.3, Low-Light ISO 843:1114. Rather a hands-down win for the F3, in fact.

Ok, maybe a lot of pro-Canon bias in this particular review's summary.... ;-)

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dual12
By dual12 (9 months ago)

I agree. The summary doesn't match the samples or the image quality graphical rating.

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pixel_colorado
By pixel_colorado (9 months ago)

No swivel screen = lame

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Juck
By Juck (9 months ago)

No Swivel Screen = smaller SLR,, which is the whole point of this camera.

Pretty simple stuff really.

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Peter Bendheim
By Peter Bendheim (9 months ago)

swivel screens can be a pain - in the way - so glad not to have them

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2eyesee
By 2eyesee (9 months ago)

I'm not a fan of the full swivel screen, but the lack of even a tilting LCD is a glaring omission.

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (9 months ago)

I fail to see how the SL1 is any smaller than the other DSLRs? The comparison picture makes it look like parts of the camera are significantly smaller. However, the overall footprint is virtually the same.

Put the upcoming Panasonic GX7 next to the Sl1 and you will see what small is.

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TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (9 months ago)

Yeah. From the pictures it is kinda deceiving.

The picture should show the SL1 top-aligned so that the prism of the smaller camera lines up with the prism of the bigger camera.

Then you can see that the bottom of the camera is what got cut off. If you look at how big of a piece of the camera got cut off that way, you can see why it might be a heck of a lot easier to stuff into a smaller camera bag for vacations.

:)

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Jane79
By Jane79 (9 months ago)

Why is the 100D not in the Gold Award section of GearShop?

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Jeff Keller
By Jeff Keller (9 months ago)

Since they're separate from DPReview, the GearShop staff is the one who puts the score into their system.

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mpgxsvcd
By mpgxsvcd (9 months ago)

Does that mean they rated it less than Gold?

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DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (9 months ago)

No, the rating is ours.

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DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (9 months ago)

It is now properly listed as Gold: http://gearshop.dpreview.com/canon-eos-rebel-sl1-dslr-camera/dp/B00CEMDTTQ?ref_=se_gd_1_0

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dual12
By dual12 (9 months ago)

Looks like the same old Canon to me. Noisier, softer, more washed out looking, and more blown highlights than many of its competitors.

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guinness2
By guinness2 (9 months ago)

I got finally the opportunity to compare 100D hands on in a store side by side with my 400D.
To my surprise I found no visible dimensions difference than a grip depth.
Kit lens 18-55 II is even lighter and shorter than STM one.
Modern Rebels must be really grown up since 400D.

5 upvotes
guinness2
By guinness2 (9 months ago)

Thanks DPR for posting the review
(aka positive feedback, Simon :-))

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andrewins
By andrewins (9 months ago)

As for me I want to buy it as a second DSLR camera. It will work fine on pair with my 60D.

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Marty4650
By Marty4650 (9 months ago)

You really have to wonder.... if mini DSLRs like the SL1 existed five years ago, would there be so much interest in high end MILC cameras today?

It is indeed smaller and more portable, but may be still to large (especially in thickness) for people who want really small cameras.

I think Canon has a good product here, but it arrived too late to the party.

Still... it makes a very nice second camera for people who own a 70D or 7D and have plenty of EOS lenses...

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yabokkie
By yabokkie (9 months ago)

SLRs, and all still cameras, are only one page in camera history

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Joe Ogiba
By Joe Ogiba (9 months ago)

The Sony NEX-6 is much smaller than the SL1 and has a larger 1.5x crop sensor compared to the SL1 1.6x crop.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7368/9370932994_6b5c9affb1_k.jpg

And the NEX cameras kill the SL1 at high iso.

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Caerolle
By Caerolle (9 months ago)

Personally, I still prefer the mirrorless, if nothing else b/c it *is* mirrorless. To me personally, the whole mirror contraption is pretty horse-and-buggy-ish, and I prefer the current EVFs to the OVFs, most especially on the lower-end dSLRs. Plus, for my needs (which of course aren't everyone's!), I'd rather have the slower focus from the sensor, than the faster focus from a completely separate system which is prone to back-focus, front-focus, all that. That is just me of course, and obviously a lot of people feel very differently about all this. To me, the difference between having great mirrorless cameras and not having them is doing photography or not; although this camera is smaller, I guess, and I haven't seen one in person, I wouldn't do photography if it meant having to use a dSLR (and didn't, before the current generation of mirrorless). So, I guess they would have sold at least *some* mirrorless gear, even if this form factor was introduced years ago.

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oselimg
By oselimg (9 months ago)

Just incase you've missed compact cameras have better bur much smaller sensors and their overall dimensions are even smaller than mirrorles cameras. According to rumours smart phones have smaller and better sensors than DSLR's.

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keeponkeepingon
By keeponkeepingon (9 months ago)

But they did have SLRs like this 5 years ago. The Canon Rebel 350D and 400D are basically the same size.

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rallyfan
By rallyfan (9 months ago)

Although I see no need for a mirror specifically, what I do need is AF tracking. If a mirrorless or anything else can exceed SLR speed, it's worth considering. The rest is just spec talk, it isn't useful.

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DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (9 months ago)

@keeponkeepingon: they're not quite the same size. I have an XTi and it's a bit bigger in all but depth dimensions. XTi=127x94x65mm, SL1=117x91x69mm

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Peter Bendheim
By Peter Bendheim (9 months ago)

The 100D is the nicest small camera I have ever owned - and I have had lots of cameras. Comfortable, well made, great IQ - it's a deserving Gold Award winner. I've been a Nikon user all my life - but it's such a pleasure to leave the heavies at home and get great IQ from the 100D - it's a really easy camera to use well - and why should photography be complicated and difficult - it's all about having the freedom to see the world through ones eyes, and this makes the experience a good bit less cumbersome.

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Marvol
By Marvol (9 months ago)

To elaborate my point below:
All Canon needs to do if their latest on-sensor AF turns out to work is do what they did to get the first EOS M: strip away the mirror box, wrap a small body around what is left, and hey presto - a really decent EOS M 2.

What advantage does the 100D have over this hypothetical EOS M 2? The ability to display a tiny view of the world through a mundane OVF? Focus an eenie weenie bit faster? That's hardly worth the extra material.

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John McCormack
By John McCormack (9 months ago)

Be patient. The EOS M 2 may be here as soon as mid September - the typical introduction time for new Canon cameras.

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Caerolle
By Caerolle (9 months ago)

I am hoping they eventually take the 70D and turn it into a mirrorless, or make a mirrorless camera from that, maybe even still in a dSLR form factor. I far prefer the M-type form factor, but noone seems inclined to make long primes for APC-C mirrorless cameras, I guess due to size. If you had the dSLR form factor, maybe in the small form like the 100D, you could use all the great lens that exist for Canon, without a single new lens having to be developed. Sony seems to be going this way with their dSLTs, remove the mirror stuff, but keep the same body.

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Marvol
By Marvol (9 months ago)

Still I can't escape the notion that this represents the pinnacle of a dying technology, like a Lockheed Constellation or a top-end early-1990s record player did.

Good as this camera is, clearly the advance of on-sensor AF (recently ironically mostly by Canon itself) and EVF tech means that the DSLR form factor with a mirrorbox and optical viewfinder has had it's heyday.

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Houseqatz
By Houseqatz (9 months ago)

you are aware of levitating platter record players?

http://www.bornrich.com/top-10-most-expensive-turntables.html

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raylob
By raylob (9 months ago)

My sexy 5D Mk2 new partner! They are a perfect match!
Ray

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Matt1645f4
By Matt1645f4 (9 months ago)

@ Shawn Barnett "added to the Rebel's well-established quality it's a clear gold award." How??? DXO scoring system which DPR seems happy to mention frequently rates the 100D's sensor at 63!! a full 16 points lower than the Pentax K50 (which is weather sealed) and its Big Brothers the K5/5II/5IIs which is scored 82. The only APS-C cameras with a higher score are the Nikon D5200 & 7100. So please tell me how its image Quality is Well established? i've tried a Canon 700D and was far from impressed with its quality over my Pentax K5's.

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glarry
By glarry (9 months ago)

Canon 100D deserved Gold award because is a Canon! The image quality isn't that important :) .

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Red5TX
By Red5TX (9 months ago)

Yeah, this seems like a nice little camera, but it's hard to see how it scored higher than the K5II.

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Matt1645f4
By Matt1645f4 (9 months ago)

The Pentax K5 Cameras did score higher in terms of DP Reviews Scores. but there's a huge difference in sensor quality between this and Similar budget cameras according to DXO. So its Established image Quality either means its that good or that bad, but as it got a Gold award i assume its that good. (Don't think so personally)

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dual12
By dual12 (9 months ago)

I have to conclude that it's Canon bias. The Canon sensors are clearly inferior (measurably and examining samples) to the Sony sensors that Nikon and Pentax use. This has been true for at least 2 years.

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zigi_S
By zigi_S (9 months ago)

Nikon and others were inferior to Canon before sony, and it didn't bother you ppl to buy into those systems.

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keeponkeepingon
By keeponkeepingon (9 months ago)

"but there's a huge difference in sensor quality between this and Similar budget cameras according to DXO."

Yes the K-50 at $775 is $25 more than the Sl1 at $750. Way more expensive, no way should they be comparing them Apples with Apples.

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DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (9 months ago)

For the market - Consumers - the image quality is very good. Yes, dynamic range is limited by comparison. We say so. But the market for this camera isn't going to care enough to belabor the point. The K-5 II is not aimed at this market, period. At no time during my experience with the camera did I find my images marred or limited by the camera's dynamic range. Canon bias? My reputation reviewing hundreds of cameras of all makes stands to the contrary.

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fisherman_lol
By fisherman_lol (9 months ago)

@ Shawn. He said Pentax K50 (k30), not k5ii. DPR didn't give gold to k30 because it is pentax name on it. If it was Canikon it would get a triple gold award. K30 (k50) kicks this cameras A$$ in every way.

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AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (9 months ago)

I prefer Nikon's image quality to Canon's but the lenses I use most often aren't available from Nikon. Still, I own both so naturally, I compare the images. What I don't do, is worry that DxO gave Nikon a 86.93289 in some category while Canon only scored 81.4589125.

2 upvotes
Malden_DJ
By Malden_DJ (9 months ago)

There is no 3.5mm stereo mic input in specifications table/page.

Best regards, Mladen.

0 upvotes
bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (9 months ago)

Gold Award!? And the superb 6D only gets a silver, how silly.

The SL1 is just a Japanese aftethought while you still have to put a lens on it the size of the 18-55. A 40 pancake is miles too long.

Small and fiddly for no good reason, just buy a Rebel.

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9 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

The 6D belongs to the full frame category. Over there, the 5D MkIII reigns together with the 1DX. Its an entry level full frame camera.

The SL1 or 100D is unique. The small size is its main attraction for those who appreciate it. Otherwise, get the 700D.

It would have been ideal if they have made it in magnesium alloy, weatherproof, a more durable shutter mechanism and have more cross type focusing points.

That would definitely make it more expensive.

I would rather have it cheaper. If it ever get damage or lost, just get a new one. Most important, we must be able to use it as much as possible to capture those fleeting moments in life.

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7 upvotes
bigdaddave
By bigdaddave (9 months ago)

Unique in the sense it does nothing the Rebels can't do but is more expensive?

Until Canon make it genuinely pocketable there is no reason to have to make do with the tiny body, you still have to use a strap or a case because once you put a lens on it it's the same size as a Rebel and the 40mm pancake is a daft choice as a general purpose lens

2 upvotes
sebastian huvenaars
By sebastian huvenaars (9 months ago)

Scores are relative to its peers.

1 upvote
SRT3lkt
By SRT3lkt (9 months ago)

Canon police's show time!!!!

I personally like the camera though...

0 upvotes
Benarm
By Benarm (9 months ago)

seems like anything reviewed on DPR gets a Silver or Gold award, especially if its Canon or Nikon

6 upvotes
DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (9 months ago)

Does it really seem that strange that the two largest manufacturers of digital cameras, who gained their marketshare by making good cameras, should continue to be able to do so?

I stand by my judgment. As the first Canon SLR we've tested to significantly improve upon autofocus in live view and video, added to the Rebel's well-established quality it's a clear gold award.

17 upvotes
Kirppu
By Kirppu (9 months ago)

Maybe they just don't waste their time to the poor cameras so users doesn't wlood the replys with whines how these poor cameras should not be reviewed.

(altought it feels like many cameras get good review)

1 upvote
dual12
By dual12 (9 months ago)

Nikon makes sense. Canon, not so much. Images from the Canon APS C sensors are visibly and measurably inferior to those from the Sony sensors that Nikon and Pentax use. As such, I can't see how Canon wins any awards. To me, image quality is the most important aspect of any camera. And it's not like Canon is superior in handling or any other aspect of performance.

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4 upvotes
Raist3d
By Raist3d (9 months ago)

Guys, with all respect, please do not confuse more highlight range with more total dynamic range. The tone priority shifts the same DR window up to capture more highlight but less shadow. This is the same with every single camera model out there.

Some do not offer this option. This is why that "loss" of "DR" in some models that go from 200 to 100- you actually get better shadows but lose the extra stop of highlight range you used to see, etc.

2 upvotes
DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (9 months ago)

You may note that one of the cons reads, "Default dynamic range lags behind its peers." There is no confusion.

5 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

If a wide dynamic range is needed, always shoot in RAW and convert on your own.

One can also shoot three bracketed shots (-1, 0, +1) and combine them together using photoshop to get the best dynamic range.

1 upvote
yabokkie
By yabokkie (9 months ago)

> default dynamic range

I'd prefer "dynamic range at low and medium ISO settings" below ISO 800-1600.

0 upvotes
cashewNut
By cashewNut (9 months ago)

The size is just right. At least I don't have a cinder block hanging around my neck when I travel. Gold award, yehey!

3 upvotes
chillgreg
By chillgreg (9 months ago)

Your product photos are fabulous! The pic on the news item page (this one) with the blue background is striking and eye catching in ours clarity and composition. Please pass on compliments to your in-house team for what is probably a largely unrecognized job.

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5 upvotes
TacticDesigns
By TacticDesigns (9 months ago)

Yeah. Now that you mention it, it is quite nice! Koodoos!

1 upvote
DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (9 months ago)

Thanks, I'd like to say it was a big production, but I took that really quickly with my T3i and 40mm F2.8. The light was just right for a unique look.

1 upvote
Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (9 months ago)

meh

more interested in the Sony A58, or NEX-5R, or NEX-3N, or EOS-M

or one of the other dozens of cameras you guys haven't tested recently

6 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (9 months ago)

i'll make sure we check with you next time we're deciding what to review:)

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19 upvotes
kadardr
By kadardr (9 months ago)

That was not nice Mr. Simon. You should check more with your readers. Maybe they are not the customers.

10 upvotes
Red5TX
By Red5TX (9 months ago)

Stay classy, DPR staffers.

kadardr, we are most definitely not their customers. DPR's advertisers are their customers. We are the product they sell to their advertisers.

4 upvotes
Davidfstop
By Davidfstop (9 months ago)

Dear Simon

It would make a nice change for you to check with us next time you're deciding what to review! ;-)

7 upvotes
Simon Joinson
By Simon Joinson (9 months ago)

ok you three, can you do a quick check with the other customers (there's about 90 million of them around the globe) and send me a list of what they want next? You see, we base our decisions partly on the feedback emails we get (which I read all of), partly on the popularity of each camera on the site, and partly by reading the forums. And the SL1 was one of the cameras getting the most requests. Which I guess is like checking with your readers, just in a way that avoids having to individually contact them to check what we should do next... :)

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6 upvotes
Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (9 months ago)

Your sarcastic reply is insulting not only to me, but to the other readers on this site. I would have expected a more mature response from the staff at dpr.

4 upvotes
DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (9 months ago)

What you may miss, Tonkotsu, is that no matter what we review, someone will chime in that we should have reviewed something else. It's a bit of an old complaint, and always refers to something else.

2 upvotes
Josh152
By Josh152 (9 months ago)

@Tonkotus Ramen

I agree some professionalism and maturity from DPR's staff would be nice.

0 upvotes
Josh152
By Josh152 (9 months ago)

@ Shawn

In that case the profession thing to do is just ignore them instead of insulting them with snarky replies that are frankly childish.

1 upvote
Shahidur Rahman
By Shahidur Rahman (9 months ago)

Shawn, you are probably correct about the complaining nature of some readers. I didn't see any comment section of any review on which there are no complains about both the product and the review.
But I don't think it is necessary for a DPR stuff to address directly a reader, and insult him, even if his comment fails to make any point (I ain't saying that Tonkotsu Ramen has failed to make any point).
I'm sorry for any grammatical mistake. English isn't my mother tongue.

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1 upvote
Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (9 months ago)

I think the general readership of DPReview has been getting dumber and more whining. I don't know, back in 2004 when I first visited here, I always thought photographer / photo enthusiasts are smart. Maybe that's because there was no comment section and I am shielded from the asses.

DP staff, review whatever you want to review just make it faster. Skip multiple updates to preview would cut down a lot of time… just a preview and final review. I think most of the whining is from people waiting for their camera to be reviewed.

2 upvotes
Eleson
By Eleson (9 months ago)

Geeez, Simon's response held an ending smiley, taking it for what it is! And for those that claims that the site have become more whining and unprofessional: You cannot possibly have been around when the founder/starter was still around. There you could talk about traditional British harsh, sometimes ironic sometimes not, comments!

@Simon, check with me also plz ...

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0 upvotes
Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (9 months ago)

@peiasdf

"I think the general readership of DPReview has been getting dumber and more whining"

Pot. Kettle.

1 upvote
GeminiH
By GeminiH (9 months ago)

I am with peiasdf on this... I wonder what I am doing reading this regurgitated diatribe sometimes....

0 upvotes
utomo99
By utomo99 (9 months ago)

Gold Award ? inmy opinion it is Silver award.
Nothing special. It si good for people with small hand, especially ladies.
or we can say this camera SLR for ladies ?

12 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

Please do not buy this camera. It is designed for ladies with small hands and those who want the smallest Canon DSLR possible.

1 upvote
Peter Bendheim
By Peter Bendheim (9 months ago)

If it was designed for people or ladies with small hands as you put it (which it isn't), is this website the exclusive domain of macho men with big hands?

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5 upvotes
D1N0
By D1N0 (9 months ago)

It should have been tested in a higher category. 700d D5200 K-30. Then it would have gotten silver.

2 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

@Peter Bendheim.

I am saying this because too many people are complaining that the camera is too small for them. It is good that Canon have designed a small DSLR for those who want it smaller. Those who think it is too small should just go for the bigger version like the 1DX or perhaps the 700D.

Personally, I quite like the 100D as a walk-about DSLR.

0 upvotes
Miwok
By Miwok (9 months ago)

I really like this camera, but the problem is than I don't look like a "professional photographer" with it.
Mr Canon, could you build the same, but in BIGGER, please! :)

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4 upvotes
utomo99
By utomo99 (9 months ago)

Here you are
http://www.vvork.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/kameran2_S.jpg

Big camera = Professional photographer :)

3 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

You can always buy the Canon 1DX with some "L" lenses. You sure would look like a "professional photographer".

3 upvotes
Josh152
By Josh152 (9 months ago)

People on here think otherwise but looking the part is very important to a professional in any field. For a photographer part of that means using a camera that the public (I.E. potential clients) and your clients perceive as being professional/better than what they have at home and yes that usually means bigger in the customers minds. To the average person buying photography the difference between the results they could get and the results the pro gets shooting isn't experience or skill. It is the that big camera they show up with because to them all photography is is pointing the camera in the right direction and pressing the button.

0 upvotes
Miwok
By Miwok (9 months ago)

I know Josh (and agree) I was just joking about the many NON PRO who buy huge and expensive camera mainly for show off, when they could produce exactly there same work with reasonable stuff (like this little canon).
(Take a look on the challenge "FF")

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0 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

I have been shooting for more than 40 years. Cameras are just tools to get the job done. Always use the right camera for the right job. If you are confident in what you are doing, you would often know the expected results before you even shoot. In the film days, you can't review what you have just shot and you better know what you are doing. A re-shoot will cost you a hell lot of money especially if it is on location and involve paid models.

However, I have come across some photographers who would pitch that they are using medium format digital camera for a simple portrait shot just to charge extra for it.

0 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

In photography, lighting is often more important than the brand or type of cameras used but no one seems to talk about "mastering the skill of lighting".

Probably, DPR should look into this aspect or maybe consumers are just interested in "cameras".

0 upvotes
VadymA
By VadymA (9 months ago)

Canon should fire its camera designer if they even have one...

0 upvotes
Timbukto
By Timbukto (9 months ago)

I do like this camera and could *almost* fall in love with it in the store, but jeez if my fingernails didn't keep scratching against the lens mount area which feels awfully cramped with the grip design. Looking at how many finger nail scratch marks I see on the lens mount area of demo units at the store I do not think I'm alone. I've held smaller camera's without ever having this issue too, so its just something about the APS-C sized lens mount depth on a small body.

Really a silly thing to be annoyed about...but somehow it does quite annoy me enough to no longer really want one...

1 upvote
abortabort
By abortabort (9 months ago)

Bring the 22mm f2 pancake to EF-S from the EOS-M Canon and then we'll talk, otherwise this is simply Canon's take 3 years too late on a now abandoned line of cameras.

2 upvotes
abortabort
By abortabort (9 months ago)

So they have done (again it seems) what Sony did with the A55, minus the articulated display, GPS and 10fps, 3 years ago - How innovative of Canon!

3 upvotes
Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (9 months ago)

SL1 is smaller in all dimensions than A55 yet still have OVF which for some people is important. A55 have terrible EVF that wasn't fixed until A57. GPS until was removed in subsequent cameras and so is high FPS. Besides, where you can buy a A55 sized camera from SONY's lineup now?

1 upvote
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

This is probably the best walk-around true DSLR for now until the Canon 70D arrives.

Tested it about 2 months ago with my Canon EF 24mm f/1.4L MkII and it works perfectly. It also worked perfectly with my set of 35mm f2.0, 50mm f/2.0 Macro and 85mm f/1.4 manual focus Zeiss lenses. No problems of any kind encountered.

I would recommend this little baby to anyone who want to walk the Welch highlands on a long weekend with it or perhaps walk around Tibet on an extended excursion.

As a backup, just carry the Lumix LX7.

Good news the image quality is not much compromised. Use it well and you will get excellent photos.

6 upvotes
Zvonimir Tosic
By Zvonimir Tosic (9 months ago)

Is it weather sealed?

0 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

For the price, it is not. If you want to get a small weather proof camera, get the Pentax K5 Mk II.

I would wrap any camera with a plastic bag with some silica gel in it if the weather is wet. Always carry a small foldable umbrella with you at all times.

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2 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

Actually, there is no real weather proof consumer cameras which can be exposed to extreme weather condition for prolonged period. Even the Canon 1DX with an "L" lens has limited ability.

If one need to spend a week in the tropical jungle where humidity can be up to 95% or trekking to Milford Sound from Te Anau or exploring the dusty sand dunes of the Gobi Desert in China, the best option is probably to use a Lumix LX7 in its underwater housing. Its not too big but will give you 100% capabilty in all those condition mention. The only catch is one has to be careful when changing batteries once every 300 shots.

Now, you can walk in the rain for hours, take photos behind the waterfall, even go snokkling or be exposed to a dust storm and still go on shooting.

All for less than AUD 1000.

1 upvote
Red5TX
By Red5TX (9 months ago)

Pentax K50 is weather sealed and has weather sealed lenses. If you plan to use an entry-level DSLR for serious outdoor use, it's a better choice. Nicer sensor too.

2 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

I must fully agree with you. Actually, I quite like the Pentax K5 IIs but unfortunately Pentax is not very popular in many countries. There are not many lens choices too. Zeiss used to make their first batch of new 35mm lenses with K mount but they have discontinued them, probably due to the small demand. Sad!

So, I have not much choice but stick with Canon DSLR.

0 upvotes
Mikhail Tal
By Mikhail Tal (9 months ago)

Giving a gold star for this camera is a joke. It's literally the worst current DSLR there is. The lack of articulating screen alone should make it a complete afterthought. The only people who will buy this camera are complete suckers.

8 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

Hey, if you want an articulated screen, just go for the Canon 700D. This camera is not for you.

This camera is designed for those with smaller hands and yet have all the essential manual functions in a small body.

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6 upvotes
Mikhail Tal
By Mikhail Tal (9 months ago)

No, this camera is designed for those who have no idea what a ripoff it is.

8 upvotes
Peter Bendheim
By Peter Bendheim (9 months ago)

Guess I must be a complete sucker then. Geez, some people just have to open their mouth for the crap to pour out...

7 upvotes
fz750
By fz750 (9 months ago)

i have no interest in either an articulated screen or liveview, I doubt that I am alone in this...

6 upvotes
BeanyPic
By BeanyPic (9 months ago)

"Mikhail Ta"l just doesn't understand that there are lot's of people that like and use different styles and types of camera. I've used the EOS 100D and it was a dream to use and the images i captured were outstanding.

5 upvotes
Mikhail Tal
By Mikhail Tal (9 months ago)

Any camera is a "dream to use" if you just leave it on auto and you have never used an articulated screen.

2 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

Articulated screens are more relevant to video shooting than stills.

If you have started photography 40 years ago like me you probably do not need live view, articulated screen, touch screen, wi-fi, nfc, etc

1 upvote
Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (9 months ago)

Surprise surprise, Mikhail Tal likes to hang around m4/3 topics and bash Canon every chance he got.

0 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

I am not surprise. He will definitely get a GOLD award for being a troll.

1 upvote
Eleson
By Eleson (9 months ago)

"Articulated screens are more relevant to video shooting than stills."

That tells me that you use a camera that cannot focus quickly using live view. I shoot indoor action from the waist using live view at times, and the articulated screen is essential to get the angles.
I'll happily admit that I'm not that good, by the camera is not the limiting factor. And I would never give a DSLR type camera a second look if it lacked the articulating screen.

0 upvotes
cgarrard
By cgarrard (9 months ago)

Also the smallest current production DLSR with an optical viewfinder, ahhh ahhh??

Totally deserves the Gold Award.

Carl

7 upvotes
Gesture
By Gesture (9 months ago)

Would love to see Olympus bring out a new E-series DSLR along these lines. They already know how to do smaller with the Digital Pens.

2 upvotes
RichRMA
By RichRMA (9 months ago)

Dull, plastic, boring, saddled with outdated sensor tech and for such a body, overpriced.

13 upvotes
AbrasiveReducer
By AbrasiveReducer (9 months ago)

Like any Rebel, it's just for pictures, not entertainment or fashion. Currently, you pay a premium for the small size but by the fall and with Canon's rebates it should be reasonable.

0 upvotes
white shadow
By white shadow (9 months ago)

This camera is not for you. You can always get the Canon 1DX with some "L" lenses.

6 upvotes
Treeshade
By Treeshade (9 months ago)

On the 100D index page (not the review page), when I click on "Read the full review" under the gold award, the hyperlink jumps to "best digital camera for kids".

Some kind of inside jokes?

3 upvotes
DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (9 months ago)

Yes it is a bug we weren't able to squash this evening. Until we do, please use this link, or the links above: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canon-eos-100d-rebel-sl1

2 upvotes
Jeff Keller
By Jeff Keller (9 months ago)

This issue has been resolved thanks to some quick work by one of our developers.

1 upvote
CameraLabTester
By CameraLabTester (9 months ago)

You could make a funny animation clip by photographing all Canon DSLRs from low to high end.

If Canon would have their way, they would want to churn out models every $200 price increase, from rock bottom to super pro beasts.

Sometimes, it is quite refreshing to see other brands than the big C.

Just for the a change...

.

7 upvotes
Kinematic Digit
By Kinematic Digit (9 months ago)

I just got mine yesterday and loving it. Been testing it out with a handful of my L glass and really impressed.

For the Amateur, this is an awesome entry level, for the pro, this is a great little throw it into the smallest spot in your photobag as a back up or stick a 50 F/1.4 prime on it and use it just for portraits.

I got this as a fun walk around camera and to do double time with my 5Dmk3 as a back-up.

The new metering has been fabulous. No under or over exposed shots.

Using a Nikkor 500mm Reflex lens makes this into an 800mm equivalent stationary bird camera. AF confirm with smart adapter and the dual colour meter has not missed an exposure.

And since I have 3 extra batteries for my EOS M, this uses the same battery.

I think of it as an EOS M with an optical finder and a decent grip.

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Chris Lofty
By Chris Lofty (9 months ago)

I've had mine for 2 weeks now and am totally won over,
It's just what I've been waiting for!
I've been lugging my 50D around for years whilst travelling, hiking and cycling, my aging back was beginning to make this an ordeal. I thought the Canon G1X would be the answer, but though the IQ was excellent I couldn't get on with the controls and limited viewfinder.
The SL1 has now solved all this, the 18-55 IS STM as a kit lens is amazing, I've not felt the need to use any of my L glass on it yet, though it's nice to have the option if needed.
IMO it deserves the Gold award!

8 upvotes
sakisda
By sakisda (9 months ago)

I'm thinking of it as a nice backup to Olympus OMD.
Also plan it to pair with Canon EF 24mm f/2.8 which is small too for street photography.

1 upvote
Peter Bendheim
By Peter Bendheim (9 months ago)

Sakisda - I think you might find yourself using it more than the OMD - I did - it's sure a lot easier to use

2 upvotes
sakisda
By sakisda (9 months ago)

Peter i already know it but it's only a second body just in case ...

1 upvote
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