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Fujifilm announces X-M1 mirrorless camera and XC 16-50mm OIS lens

By dpreview staff on Jun 25, 2013 at 01:00 GMT

Fujifilm has announced the X-M1, a compact-bodied mirrorless camera that features a rather different design to its previous models. Instead of 'traditional' shutter speed and exposure compensation dials, the X-M1 uses twin electronic control dials to change exposure parameters. It has a tilting 920k dot 3" LCD screen but no eye-level viewfinder, and uses the same 16MP APS-C X-Trans CMOS sensor as the X-Pro1 and X-E1. It comes with a new kit zoom, the XC 16-50mm F3.6-5.6 OIS that offers a 24-75mm equivalent range and optical stabilisation, but has no aperture ring. The X-M1 16-50mm kit will have an RRP of $799/£679.99.

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Press Release:

FUJIFILM launches the X-M1: a compact and lightweight CSC with the same APS-C X-Trans CMOS sensor as the X-Pro1

FUJIFILM Corporation (President: Shigehiro Nakajima) is proud to announce the launch of the FUJIFILM X-M1, the third premium interchangeable-lens camera from the company.  Compact and lightweight, the X-M1 offers enhanced operability whilst bringing the outstanding design, picture quality and performance of the multi-award-winning FUJIFILM X-Pro1 and X-E1 cameras not only to photo enthusiasts but also to a broader scope of users. 

Featuring the same internationally-acclaimed proprietary multi-award-winning 16.3 megapixel APS-C X-Trans CMOS Sensor as the FUJIFILM X-Pro1 and FUJIFILM X-E1

  • The FUJIFILM X-M1 is equipped with a large APS-C X-Trans CMOS Sensor, which offers picture quality comparable to that of full-frame sensors.  The sensor’s unique colour filter array minimises moiré and chromatic aberration without the need for an optical low pass filter, while dramatically boosting resolving power even at identical pixel counts to deliver sharp and texture-rich pictures. 
  • The design draws out the potential of high-performance lenses to the maximum. It delivers clear images with stunningly low noise even in low-light conditions at night and indoors, where high sensitivity would usually be required.  The sensor faithfully reproduces the warm tones of human skin and the vivid colours of the sky from deep blues to the red hues of the setting sun.
  • Users can set the sensor sensitivity from the regular ISO200 to as high as ISO6400 in 1/3 step increments, and can even take advantage of the extended range of ISO12800 and ISO25600 to obtain incredibly clear and low-noise images even in low-light or at night.

Fujifilm EXR Processor II for high-speed reactions

The EXR Processor II boasts fast performance, offering stress-free photo capture with its:

  • start-up time of 0.5 seconds (*1)
  • shutter time lag of 0.05 seconds
  • maximum burst speed of 5.6 frames per second (max. 30 frames*2)

Designed to enable one handed operation with intuitive and quick selection of functions for casual shooting with beautiful results

  • All of the adjustable buttons and dials are positioned on the right-hand side of the camera’s rear LCD panel in pursuit of optimum operability and ease-of-use for casual shooting. When holding the camera with just your right hand, the placement of the buttons has been designed to allow you to access all functions and adjust the settings easily.
  • The Mode Dial allows you to select the optimum scene setting with access to the “Advanced SR Auto” function, which automatically recognises a scene type for fail-safe photography, and the “Advanced Filter” function for artistic photographic effects. 
  • The camera is equipped with two Command Dials, allowing users to adjust the aperture, shutter speed and exposure compensation quickly with their thumb.  Individual buttons are also provided to access frequently-used functions such as White Balance, Burst Mode and Macro, so that you don’t have to go to the menu screen for each change of setting, enabling an intuitive and quick operation.

Sporting a compact and lightweight body, with a cool, retro design inherited from the FUJIFILM X-Pro1 and X-E1

  • The X-M1 has a classical and elegant feel just like the popular FUJIFILM X-Pro1 and X-E1 cameras. And importantly, at about half the size of a regular SLR body (66.5mm high and 39.0mm deep), its compact and lightweight design means users can casually carry it in a bag without having to worry about the bulk.
  • The X-M1 weighs just 330 grams(*3) despite incorporating a large APS-C CMOS sensor, a tiltable high-definition LCD monitor, a built-in flash, Wi-Fi and a hot shoe. 
  • The X-M1 is available in three colours: Black, Silver and Brown.

Featuring a 920,000 dot high definition tiltable 3-inch LCD for creative and multi-angle shots

  • The 3-inch high-definition LCD screen tilts up and down, facilitating ground level shots of flowers and pets, as well as high-up shots over a crowd of people. It is also suited to tripod-mounted video shooting to broaden your creative options.

FUJIFILM’s Super i-Flash technology which regulates flash intensity according to the scene

  • The X-M1’s high-precision built-in flash, rated at the equivalent of Guide Number 7 (*4), uses FUJIFILM’s Super i-Flash technology to regulate the amount of light it fires dependent on the scene. In low-light indoor portrait shots or for close-ups of accessories / plates of food, the flash controls its output to reduce highlight blowout. It also provides the perfect fill-in flash when photographing people in backlit conditions or under intense sunlight casting strong shadows on the face.

Wireless image transfer allowing you to instantly transfer high quality images to a mobile device or computer

  • The wireless image transfer function allows users to transfer their shots immediately to their smartphone or tablet PC.  It broadens the enjoyment of photography through the easy uploading of your favourite images to social networking sites or just enabling you to share them with your friends.
  • The camera has a built-in wireless image transfer function that uses the dedicated “FUJIFILM Camera App”, available as a free download, to instantly transfer and save your favourite photos to a smartphone or tablet PC. Beautiful images of your choice can be transferred with the Wi-Fi button ready for uploading to SNS or sharing with friends.
  • Users can also view and import pictures and videos to the camera from a smartphone or tablet PC. The function can also retrieve location data from your smartphone to add the information to pictures you take.
  • Additionally a PC Autosave feature is available, via Wi-Fi® (*5), this provides a simple means to back up your photos to your home PC. Just install the free “FUJIFILM PC AutoSave” software onto your PC and select which folder you want the photos to back up to, and then by linking your Wi-Fi Router and the X-M1 you will have set up a very simple to use backup for your photos on your home PC. Both incredibly useful and a big timesaver!

Get creative with your photography by employing popular special effects in-camera

  • With eight advanced Art Filters, users can add special effects pre-image capture: namely Toy Camera, Miniature, Dynamic Tone, Pop Colour, Soft Focus, High Key, Low Key and Partial Colour. The camera also offers a Multiple Exposure mode which allows you to superimpose a second exposure onto the first exposure for a truly creative touch.
  • Additionally, Fuji’s Film Simulation modes feature five different effects that emulate the looks that used to be captured by different photographic films: i.e. Provia (standard) for natural colour reproduction, Velvia (vivid) for saturated tones, Astia (muted) for soft graduation, and Sepia and Black & White.

Full HD video recording

  • The FUJIFILM X-M1 is capable of full HD (1920x1080) video recording at 30 frames per second. Creative effects can be added when shooting videos with Film Simulation options including Monochrome and beautiful bokeh achieved with the large sensor at a large aperture.

FUJINON XC16-50mmF3.5-5.6 OIS lens (24-76mm equivalent) (*6)

  • A compact and lightweight XC16-50mmF3.5-5.6 OIS zoom lens (24mm-76mm equivalent(*6)) is being launched with the X-M1 as a Kit lens and is designed to complement the camera perfectly, covering the focal lengths of 24mm to 76mm(*6). It is ideal for various scene types including indoor shooting, landscapes and snapshots.
  • The XC16-50mm lens consists of 12 all-glass elements in 10 groups including 3 aspherical elements and 1 ED element. It features seven round-edged aperture blades, which offers 17 stops in 1/3 EV steps for precise aperture control.
  • The use of lightweight lens elements and a high-precision stepping motor has enabled FUJIFILM to deliver high-speed autofocus speeds. Coupled with powerful optical image stabilisation, the lens ensures that you capture all your shutter opportunities.
  • The XC16-50mm lens will be available in two colours: Black and Silver.

Extensive collection of X-M1 accessories

  • Leather Case: Specifically designed to fit the FUJFILM X-M1, the case offers protection to your equipment whilst also providing the right amount of grip and the premium finish of genuine leather.
  • Hand Grip: Ergonomically designed in pursuit of the perfect hold.
  • Clip-on Flash: Available in three types to suit all your flash photography needs.

FUJIFILM X-M1 Key Features:

  • 16.3 megapixel APS-C X-Trans CMOS sensor (same sensor as X-Pro1/X-E1)
  • Hi-speed EXR Processor II
  • Start-up time of 0.5secs (*1), shutter lag of 0.05secs and a maximum burst speed of 5.6fps (max. 30 frames (*2))
  • Compact and lightweight body (half the size of an SLR)
  • Tiltable 3-inch LCD (920K dot high definition)
  • Built in flash with FUJIFILM’s Super i-Flash technology
  • ISO200-6400 in 1/3 step increments (and extended range of ISO 12800 to 24600 at reduced resolution)
  • Full HD Video recording at 30fps
  • 49 point AF
  • Art filters: 8 Advanced Filters plus 5 Film Simulation modes
  • In-camera RAW processing
  • Q button for list view of frequently-used menus and smooth configuration
  • Hot shoe
  • Wireless image transfer to smart phones and tablet PCs via FUJIFILM Camera app
  • PC Autosave Wi-Fi® (*5) connectivity to PCs (for easy image backup)
  • The X-M1 camera is available in three colours: Black, Silver and Brown
  • Fujifilm X mount (compatible with all FUJINON XF / XC / Zeiss X mount lenses)

*1 Quick Start mode
*2 Max. number of frames can be shot on JPEG setting, use an SD card Class 10 or higher
*3 Including the battery and memory card, excluding the lens
*4 ISO200・m
*5 Wi-Fi(R) is registered trademark of the Wi-Fi Alliance
*6 35mm format equivalent

Fujifilm X-M1 specifications

Price
MSRP$699 body only, $799/£679.99 with 16-50mm
Body type
Body typeRangefinder-style mirrorless
Sensor
Max resolution4896 x 3264
Other resolutionsS: (3:2) 2496 x 1664 / (16:9) 2496 x 1408 / (1:1) 1664 x 1664
Image ratio w:h1:1, 3:2, 16:9
Effective pixels16 megapixels
Sensor photo detectors17 megapixels
Sensor sizeAPS-C (23.6 x 15.6 mm)
Sensor typeCMOS
ProcessorEXR Processor II
Image
ISOAUTO / Equivalent to ISO200 - 6400 (Standard Output Sensitivity)
White balance presets7
Custom white balanceYes
Image stabilizationNo
Image stabilization notesSupported with OIS type lens
Uncompressed formatRAW
JPEG quality levelsFine, Normal
File format
  • JPEG (Exif Ver 2.3)*2 / RAW (RAF format) / RAW+JPEG (Design rule for Camera File system compliant / DPOF-compatible)
Optics & Focus
Autofocus
  • Contrast Detect (sensor)
  • Multi-area
  • Center
  • Tracking
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Face Detection
Autofocus assist lampAF assist illuminator available
Manual focusYes
Number of focus points49
Lens mountFujifilm X
Focal length multiplier1.5×
Screen / viewfinder
Articulated LCDTilting
Screen size3
Screen dots920,000
Touch screenNo
Screen typeTFT LCD
Live viewYes
Viewfinder typeNone
Photography features
Minimum shutter speed30 sec
Maximum shutter speed1/4000 sec
Exposure modes
  • Advanced SR AUTO
  • Program AE
  • Shutter Priority
  • Aperture Priority
  • Manual
  • Custom
  • Portrait
  • Landscape
  • Sport
  • SP
  • Adv.
  • AUTO
Scene modes
  • Portrait, Landscape, Sports, Portrait enhancer, Night, Night (tripod), Fireworks, Sunset, Snow, Beach, Party, Flower, Text
Built-in flashYes (Manual pop-up flash)
Flash range7.00 m (ISO200m)
External flashYes (dedicated TTL Flash compatible)
Flash modesAuto / Forced Flash / Suppressed Flash / Slow Synchro / Rear-curtain Synchro / Commander
Flash X sync speed1/180 sec
Drive modes
  • Single
  • Continuous
  • Self-timer
Continuous drive6 fps
Self-timerYes (10 sec. / 2 sec.)
Metering modes
  • Multi
  • Average
  • Spot
Exposure compensation±2 (at 1/3 EV steps)
AE Bracketing±1 (3 frames at 1/3 EV, 2/3 EV, 1 EV steps)
Videography features
Resolutions1920 x 1080 30p, Continuous recording: up to approx. 14 min./1280 x 720 30p, Continuous recording: up to approx. 27 min.
FormatH.264
Videography notesMOV/H.264
MicrophoneStereo
SpeakerMono
Storage
Storage typesSD memory card / SDHC memory card / SDXC (UHS-I) memory card
Connectivity
USB USB 2.0 (480 Mbit/sec)
HDMIYes (Mini HDMI Type C)
WirelessBuilt-In
Wireless notesGeotagging setup, Image transfer (Individual image / Selected multiple images), View & Obtain Images, PC Autosave
Remote controlYes (RR-90 (sold separately))
Physical
BatteryBattery Pack
Battery descriptionNP-W126 battery and BC-W126 charger
Battery Life (CIPA)350
Weight (inc. batteries)330 g (0.73 lb / 11.64 oz)
Dimensions117 x 67 x 39 mm (4.6 x 2.62 x 1.54)
Other features
Orientation sensorYes
GPSNone

Fujifilm XC 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OIS specifications

Principal specifications
Lens typeZoom lens
Max Format sizeAPS-C / DX
Focal length16–50 mm
Image stabilisationYes
Lens mountFujifilm X
Aperture
Maximum apertureF3.5 - F5.6
Minimum apertureF22.0
Aperture ringNo
Number of diaphragm blades7
Aperture notesRounded diaphragm
Optics
Elements12
Groups10
Special elements / coatings3 aspherical elements, 1 extra low dispersion element
Focus
Minimum focus0.40 m (15.75)
Maximum magnification0.15×
AutofocusYes
Motor typeStepper motor
Full time manualYes
Focus methodInternal
Distance scaleNo
DoF scaleNo
Physical
Weight195 g (0.43 lb)
Diameter63 mm (2.46)
Length65 mm (2.57)
MaterialsPlastic barrel, plastic mount
ColourBlack, silver
Zoom methodRotary (extending)
Filter thread58 mm
Filter notesDoes not rotate on focusing
Hood suppliedYes

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Comments

Total comments: 151
Hitechpest
By Hitechpest (9 months ago)

Hey friends i dont know how to use this type of camera. So please send me steps.

0 upvotes
dtmoody
By dtmoody (10 months ago)

Man...What A Beautiful Sexy Piece of Equipment this is.

1 upvote
SantaFeBill
By SantaFeBill (10 months ago)

Sorry there's no optional EVF. Where I live, the usual bright sunlight makes an LCD useless outdoors, unless you mount a hood. Then you lose compactness and the advantage of an articulated LCD panel.

0 upvotes
mosc
By mosc (10 months ago)

Yes there is. It's called the X-E1 package

2 upvotes
Petrogel
By Petrogel (10 months ago)

either way it's still beautiful

1 upvote
T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

Gee, if only Fuji gave you the opportunity to pay extra money to have an X-series body that had a built-in viewfinder! Oh...wait. They do.

Conversely, there are plenty of people who probably wished Fuji gave them the opportunity to pay less to have a body without a built-in viewfinder. And they did, by offering the X-M1.

3 upvotes
SantaFeBill
By SantaFeBill (10 months ago)

The X-E1 system costs US $400 more than the X-M1 system. I think Fuji could have made an optional EVF that would sell for less than $400, but of course that would have had a possible negative effect on X-E1 sales.
An optional EVF would have given people the choice of having one or not, or adding one later if they found a need.

0 upvotes
stevo23
By stevo23 (10 months ago)

I'm glad they are expanding the line of X series cameras. They have shaken up the market and considering the image quality and versatility you get, $799 is reasonable in my mind.

Lack of an optical or electronic viewfinder isn't a huge issue to me, but if I were buying into this system, I would get the Pro. It's viewfinder is really nice and I would use it a lot.

That being said, I've owned two cameras with LCD only and I never felt it to be a limitation. In fact, I compose better that way.

0 upvotes
supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

No viewfinder, no touch screen, no PDAF, and they want to charge $800 for it? What are they smoking there?

0 upvotes
Felix11
By Felix11 (10 months ago)

They have to release that at the top end first and then move it down the range otherwise they will canabilize their sales

0 upvotes
GabrielZ
By GabrielZ (10 months ago)

So no phase-detection AF like with the X100S then. I thought Fujifilm would be standardising on this tech across its X-series cameras by now. I really want to see a successor to the X-E1 soon too.

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YLK
By YLK (10 months ago)

I wonder how the stills of Fuji would compare against Nex5r on wide end? What about the DR? And what is the compression for video on Fuji?
Looking forward to reading a comparison review of both cameras and lenses.

Comment edited 42 seconds after posting
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Raist3d
By Raist3d (10 months ago)

You can do that now. Get some xe1 Raws and compare. Its the same sensor.

2 upvotes
HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (10 months ago)

YLK--

If you do that test, make sure the Sony has a Zeiss lens mounted on it. Sony Nex kit lenses are a joke.

3 upvotes
peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

I see Tracking AF in the camera spec. Is it new for the Fuji X system?

Also, for the 16-50, B&H specs say it is 3.87" (98.3 mm) long. So what is it? Or is it extending to that length?

0 upvotes
Timmbits
By Timmbits (10 months ago)

that refers to the relative focal length, not the physical dimensions.

they should talk about field of view, in degrees... but for some reason, it seems like experienced old-timers are harder to change, than it is to indoctrinate newcomers with the illogical.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

Timmbits, what are you talking about? 98.3mm is in size column (as length), here on DPR it is 65mm, so is the discrepancy. Focal length has nothing to do with it.

2 upvotes
Eric Hensel
By Eric Hensel (10 months ago)

what's worse is he got two people to agree with him, lol...

2 upvotes
Dave Oddie
By Dave Oddie (10 months ago)

One day fuji will put a tilt-able LCD and an EVF on a camera in this line and then I might be tempted to buy one!

Wafting a camera about to use a rear LCD is no more ergonomic a way to do it now that it's ever been for normal shooting particularly vertical shots. Cameras with viewfinders are so much easier to use.

However an LCD that tilts when you are faced with awkward angles or want to get down low is great. So fixed LCD's on these kind of cameras are equally annoying.

Oly are just as bad. With the ELP5 you have buy a separate EVF which ruins the cameras compactness.

Someone please take the design to its logical conclusion and give us a built in EVF like the XE-1 and a tilt-able LCD the XM-1 in the same camera.

1 upvote
T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

"With the ELP5 you have buy a separate EVF which ruins the cameras compactness."

Here's a bit of magic for you: you remove the Oly EVF, and suddenly the camera is compact again! Not a big deal. I shoot with Oly m4/3, and I shoot with EVF just as much as I shoot without. I can go either way. Not a big deal. And when I'm shooting without, I'm not "wafting a camera about." I think this is a generational thing. The older generation can't seem to make sense out of shooting with the rear LCD because that's not what they grew up with, while the younger generation have no problem with it. They've grown up doing it with smart phones, compact digital cams, and even DSLRs (espec when shooting video), so it's just not an issue for them. They hold no prejudice against it (no pun intended). And they can hold them pretty darn steady. Heck, all the wedding videographers I work with shoot video with DSLRs, shooting off the rear LCD. They do it just fine, not "wafting the camera about."

7 upvotes
Strikeroot
By Strikeroot (10 months ago)

Agreed. I like the option of going viewfinder-less and ultra-compact or attaching the EVF if I need it. I know others have different preferences, but luckily there are other cameras out there if you want built-in EVF and flash.

1 upvote
Felts
By Felts (10 months ago)

To T3,
I had the EP2 with the EVF and I found it a complete PITA to have to fiddle with the little bag and covers of the EVF and hotshoe cover - so for me it was a big deal. No integrated VF, no magic!! But thats why we are all different...

Oh and BTW I'm a young'n sonny, and only been shooting for 2 years but I hate using the LCD to shoot!! Try shooting at 1/15s with the camera held out in front of you!

1 upvote
BJL
By BJL (10 months ago)

Felts: just because snap-shooters most often wave the camera in front of themselves when using the LCD doesn't mean that you have to. Try putting your upper arms and elbows to your body and then bringing the camera about 10 inches [25cm] from your face. It ends up a bit below eye level (so you can glance over the camera to check your subject) and quite steady.

1 upvote
DDWD10
By DDWD10 (10 months ago)

Yeah, I've never understood this "shooting at arms-length" quip. I've always held any LCD-equipped camera about 10 inches from my face when I shoot, elbows bent. Maybe it refers to the very farsighted set.

0 upvotes
Timmbits
By Timmbits (10 months ago)

there we go!!!!
although they make cameras with viewfinders,
here is the "this camera sucks because it nas no evf" circus again!
this is getting old!
really old.
old to the point of pollution.

1 upvote
T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

@Felts- why in the world are you fiddling with "the little bag and covers of the EVF and hotshoe cover"?!? Those things are for newbies who think that those things actually matter! Haha. The first thing I do with those pointless plastic covers is toss them.

As for shooting 1/15s, try not holding the camera "out in front of you" like a dork. Tuck your elbows into your abdomen, bring the camera in just a bit closer so that your forearms are almost vertical, and shoot. I do it all the time. Even easier to do with Oly's in-body stabilization! As with ANY camera you use, whether you're talking about m4/3 with rear LCD, or DSLR with optical viewfinder that you put to your face, or a Bronica medium format camera with waist-level viewfinder, it's ALL a matter of technique that is specific to that particular type of camera. People who are camera-format agnostic understand this.

1 upvote
Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (10 months ago)

> Someone please take the design to its logical conclusion and give us a built in EVF like the XE-1 and a tilt-able LCD the XM-1 in the same camera.

Maybe that will be the X-E2?

2 upvotes
Jon Ragnarsson
By Jon Ragnarsson (10 months ago)

Meh. I got used to LCD shooting. It's no big deal, just different method. Sometimes I think photographers are the most conservative users ever! TTL flash? Useless! AF? Useless! ESP metering? Useless! Digital? Useless! Live View? Useless! No viewfinder? Useless! Smaller than "Full Frame"? Useless! I've seen this trend the whole time I've been camera and photography enthusiast.

If I have to adjust to new/different technology, it is useless to me!

(Not directed personally at you Dave, just my experience...) :)

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Dave Oddie
By Dave Oddie (10 months ago)

>>"With the ELP5 you have buy a separate EVF which ruins the cameras compactness."

>Here's a bit of magic for you: you remove the Oly EVF, and suddenly the camera is compact again! Not a big deal.

T3, that's not magic. It's a camera without a VF again.

And I prefer the excellent view through modern EVF's over using an LCD in bright sunlight in particular. Don't want to faff about attaching one every time its sunny.

The XE-2 Andy mentioned would be great combining best of both worlds and I do find it funny people seem to take issue with a suggested improvement.

I'd love Oly to do it in an ELP camera as I prefer IBIS over in-lens stabilization but it looks like Oly are wedded to add-on EVF's for the ELP's.

The Fuji XE-1 is very compact with its EVF and the LCD on the XM-1 doesn't add much so it seems as I said the logical conclusion without sacrificing compactness.

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sdribetahi
By sdribetahi (10 months ago)

You all need to get over the viewfinder. Believe it or not, not everyone takes pictures at eye level. You should try it once, it actually works without sticking the thing to your face.

16 upvotes
happypoppeye
By happypoppeye (10 months ago)

The majority of old men have closed minds ...won't try anything new and think the way they have been shooting most of their lives is THE best way because, well, thats what they have done.

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

I think it's mainly a generational thing. The older set have more trouble accepting the "off the LCD" style of shooting because it's not what they grew up with. The younger set have no problem with it. I shoot with wedding videographers who are all shooting video with DSLRs these days, and they're always shooting off the rear LCD with no probem. If a videographer can do it to shoot video with a big DSLR, then shooting a photo off of an X-M1 shouldn't be an issue. And for most people, it's not an issue. It's a different style of shooting, sure. But it works for most people, which is why the rear LCD form factor has been so successful on millions of cameras sold over the years. Sure, viewfinders can be great, too. But it's not the only style of shooting. And there are many people who are actually going to *prefer* shooting off an LCD, That's probably sacrilege to the older crowd, but the older crowd is generally a lot more conservative-minded; it's their way or the highway.

4 upvotes
tolleknolle
By tolleknolle (10 months ago)

Actually it is not a generational thing. Coming from the LF and MF tradition, I hate having to squint through a peeping-hole and only ever use the screen. In fact, the squinters were used to be sneered at for their puny negs.

2 upvotes
marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

It's DPR reviews, not old men, who always talk about the limitations of viewfinder-less cameras and it is common for them to subtract points for enthusiast cameras that have neither VF or a way to add an accessory VF (i.e., multi-funtion port).

It has nothing to do with "close minded old men" (one of the more foolish comments to ever appear on DPR comments) but with what works better in all kinds of light, what provides a more stable shooting stance, makes it easier to quickly check the edges of the frame, and in the case of OVFs doesn't get grainy and difficult to see in low-light or night shooting.

@T3

Wedding videographers shoot "off the rear LCD" because with ALL DLSRs except Sony, the OVF is blacked out during video shooting. It's out of necessity no because HDSLR videographers prefer it.

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mytake
By mytake (10 months ago)

@marike6
I had to break my silence (since the "Camera of the year award") and agree with you about the "close minded old men" remark above, it was both foolish and sexist. You may not remember but you gve me some pointers awhile back on using flash...picked up a couple of Oly 600r's the other day for $224 each for my EM5, can't wait to start experimenting. Regards...

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

@marike6 - videographers using "traditional" video cameras that have built-in EVF's *also* regularly shoot off the LCD, too. Part of the reason is that when your eye isn't glued to a viewfinder, you have greater situational awareness (ie, you're more aware of what's around you). And it gives you greater flexibility to maneuver the camera when it's not attached to your face. But my point is that the population of users who are very comfortable with shooting "off the LCD" is actually huge compared to the comparatively smaller population that can't live without a viewfinder. DSLR shooters tend to think that a viewfinder is really the only way a camera should be used, but if they looked around more, they'd see that they are actually in the minority.

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calking
By calking (10 months ago)

I see gangs of young people walking in groups and across streets and sitting in restaurants all staring at their cell phones and texting each other instead of talking. I find that about as stupid as stupid gets but I don't give a crap. I have a fuji xe-1 and that has both an evf and LCD screen and I use both depending on the situation. I also have a Sony rx100 and that has only a LCD. I have a nikon d80 and there's no composing via LCD on that.

Some on here still believe that every flippin camera introduced is supposed to accommodate every conceivable feature some so-called enthusiast or hobbyist photog can dream up as being necessary or optional. Get the heck over it. Learn to actually SHOOT with what you have instead of whining about missing features. Good lord what a bunch of mammas boys there are in this wretched forum.

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marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

@mytake

Glad I could be of some help. Best of luck.

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BobYIL
By BobYIL (10 months ago)

Awww! Fujifilm copied Leica X Vario!! ;p

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Mattersburger
By Mattersburger (10 months ago)

In a week, no less.

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

Except that Fujifilm allows you to change the lens, as opposed to giving you a permanently attached slow zoom.

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jtan163
By jtan163 (10 months ago)

View finder.

Tilting LCD is nice, but...
An accessory EVF would be nice.
I guess the absence of an EVF is intended to force people like me to move up to the XE-1
If that is the case the problem with that strategy is it actually discourages me from buying it.
I might just stick with my EM5 instead of taking the risk.
Give me an accessory EVF and I might buy one of these to try the X series, and then moce up to the XE or XPro. I'm not likely to ust try those as is.
But I might buy one of these more or less on impulse, if it had an EVF. And then I might try and XE or XPro.

But I probably won't find out without an EVF. So they lose me and the opportunity to lure me away from m43.

Otherwise it looks like a nice unit, I assume it can use all X mount lenses including the XFs?

The single command dial is not a problem if you can use the XF lenses, assuming it can be programmed to control shutter.

PS Dig the Lunar like wood grain.

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massimogori
By massimogori (10 months ago)

Jtan, the move you are so afraid of is a no brainer. Go for it! The reward in terms of image quality is huge.

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LJ - Eljot
By LJ - Eljot (10 months ago)

If you are happy with your E-M5 keep it! If you are not happy with it think about why! The E-M5 is a good camera. If you consider a camera as a replacement for your E-M5 thik about if you lose something you realy like with your E-M5.

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Andy Crowe
By Andy Crowe (10 months ago)

> I guess the absence of an EVF is intended to force people like me to move up to the XE-1
> If that is the case the problem with that strategy is it actually discourages me from buying it.

Why? Currently the X-E1 is only $100 more than the X-M1, which is cheaper than an X-M1 plus add-on EVF would likely be.

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

"The single command dial is not a problem if you can use the XF lenses, assuming it can be programmed to control shutter."

There isn't a "single command dial." It has two control dials. The rear vertical dial controls shutter.

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bentheoandrews
By bentheoandrews (10 months ago)

In the UK, price difference for XE1 vs XM1 is £30 (body only). EVF vs Tilt screen and WI FI. An add-on EVF is going to cost you upwards of £200 which then takes the XM1 closer to XPro1 territory.

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AngryCorgi
By AngryCorgi (10 months ago)

Finally Fuji releases a product with a price tag to make it a competitive and compelling alternative to the NEX system. The value of the X-M1/16-50 kit (the lens MTF appears better than the E-mount kit zoom by some margin) and real expanability of the system (Sony has done a poor job expanding its lens options with quality offerings) will definitely make this their most competitive camera yet. It also helps that it's considerably smaller, more in line with the competition. In regard to EP-5 competition, I'm not seeing a reason to go mft now, sans a current investment in mft glass.

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Toccata47
By Toccata47 (10 months ago)

There's more to a camera than a price tag. The xe1 is already a better option than the nex7 unless you need video, cheaper body, decent lenses. Sometime you pay more and get more.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

Why compare X-E1 to NEX-7 (24 mpix full-metal camera) when it is more comparable to NEX-6 (same 16 mpix, same partial metal)?

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Jefftan
By Jefftan (10 months ago)

Anyone know why pair with 16-50mm instead of 18-55mm kit lens
Is the 16-50mm worse than 18-55mm?

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JakeB
By JakeB (10 months ago)

Yes.

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Andy Westlake
By Andy Westlake (10 months ago)

The 16-50mm is clearly cheaper to make (plastic construction, no aperture ring, slower maximum aperture). I wouldn't necessarily assume that means it's 'worse' - for a start it's obviously a lot better at 16mm.

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nspur
By nspur (10 months ago)

Sony has a 16-50

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (10 months ago)

It's a very handy zoom range. Starting out wider (fov equiv. to ff 24mm instead of 28mm) makes it more attractive for many uses, especially shooting indoors in small rooms and landscapes. The minor loss of length in insignificant. A lens like this has all the width many people need. I'm sure it's optically superior to the Sony 16-50mm, but it's about twice as big. The Sony power zoom is also attractive for video. I like this lens, but do wish they had gotten the size down a bit.

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zapatista
By zapatista (10 months ago)

The Sony "kit" zoom lenses are crap. Decent enough for basic stuff, but not in the same league as the Fuji 18-55mm & probably not near the new 16-50mm.

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Mike99999
By Mike99999 (10 months ago)

I like how the Fuji X system is expanding. From my personal experience I prefer the new Olympus lenses to the Fuji lenses though. The Olympus primes (12mm, 45mm, 75mm) seem several times sharper and produce stunning images.

Another problem with Fuji is the size of the lenses. The pancakes are there, which is a good thing, but it seems that compact tele lenses are completely out of the question. So if you are traveling with a kit, your bag won't be much smaller than with Nikkor glass. If lenses are as big as Nikon DX/FX lenses, why not just go with a Nikon?

The Fuji 35mm f/1.4 performs *very* similar to the Sigma 30mm f/1.4, and the Fuji 18-55 f/2.8-4 performs eerily similar to the Sigma 18-50 f/2.8-4.5, which is respectable, but just not nearly as good as similar Olympus or Nikon glass.

Which leads me to my final point, that Fuji is producing cameras that on paper are a dream come true, but in real-life use turn out to be nothing more than a stylized EOS Rebel minus the L glass.

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Beat Traveller
By Beat Traveller (10 months ago)

I have found that the X series lenses produce stunning images. I have to agree though that the telephoto lenses are not exactly compact. 90% of my shots are taken with wide or normals though, so it's the perfect compromise for me.

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Den Sh
By Den Sh (10 months ago)

Have you really compared Oly 12mm to Fuji 14mm and Oly 45mm to Fuji 60mm in face-to-face comparision? Because It's hard to believe that you've found them to be any different at all. All of the listed lens are exceptional performers.

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nathondetroit
By nathondetroit (10 months ago)

Fuji gives you a lot more lens-per-dollar than the other companies. $600 plus your body gets you into L glass territory…

I think everyone will be happy when that X-Pro 2 arrives!

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Raist3d
By Raist3d (10 months ago)

The lenses are not as big as Nikon dx/fx lenses. I don't know what you are smoking ;-). Certainly not the fx

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mytake
By mytake (10 months ago)

I really like both systems (Oly and Fuji). I'm shooting EM5 with panny 20 1.7, oly 45 1.8, and the slow and "fair for stills" oly 12-50, with two oly 600r speedlights shipping now. But, I would love to get a Fuji EX-1 with the wide zoom they announced, along with thier medium and long zooms.
Oly and Fuji was a hard choice for me. I hope that soon I will have wonderful decisions to make like, "will I take the wonderfully, superlative Fuji with me today, or the sublimly versatile Oly? I love choices like that...

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

Try Samsung NX for value and quality lenses.

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (10 months ago)

What a garbage "me too" product. Why remove one of the most desirable features of the Fuji mirror-less cams. I hope this model tanks as a lesson to the entire industry, which causes everyone else to jump on the integrated EVF bandwagon.

...but that ain't likely to happen. Because most people haven't had the experience of using an eye level finder to know how awesome it is.

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

First of all, Fuji *already* offers cameras that have a built-in viewfinder. Secondly, not everyone wants or needs a built-in viewfinder. What's so wrong about offering a camera for those users? Oh, because you're one of those "every-camera-must-have-a-viewfinder" fascists-- it's your way or the highway.

Plus, on the one hand, you criticize this camera as being a "me too" product, but on the other hand, you want every manufacturer to "jump on the integrated EVF bandwagon." So are you against "me too" products, or are you for "me too" products. You seem very confused. I don't think Fuji is confused. They have cameras with viewfinders for those who need or want them, and now they have a camera without a viewfinder, for those who don't need or want them. Sounds like a sound strategy to me.

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starwolfy
By starwolfy (10 months ago)

That is always what I think when someone try to tell me I was a fool buying a real Leica rangefinder. Most people havent'had the experience of using anything else than an electronical viewfinder and focus peaking, so they don't know how a awesome a real rangefinder is.

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Olymore
By Olymore (10 months ago)

I own an old fixed lens Ricoh rangefinder camera bought about 30 years ago. I know it won't have the same quality of rangefinder as a Leica but the best current EVFs are far superior in many ways to my Ricoh viewfinder.
And as technology improves they will only get better.

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ksgant
By ksgant (10 months ago)

I used to shoot Leica's with film, had an M3 and later an M6. I have the opportunity to shoot Leica's now with digital. I don't shoot Leica's with digital.

I personally have been enjoying the electronic viewfinder in the more modern cameras. The older ones were lower rez, they lagged a lot and I just didn't care for them. But I've found now that I use the Electronic viewfinder in my X100s more than I do the optical.

But...that's neither here nor there. The camera at hand has neither optical nor electronic so it doesn't matter.

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (10 months ago)

What's wrong with it? Nothing...Fuji has every right to make a boring "me too" camera. I'm frustrated that they've caved to the actual trend of NOT including a viewfinder, which is one of the things that had distinguished their line. Now they offer the same garbage everyone else does. There isn't an integrated EVF trend, though I wish their was.

The people complaining about a lack of EVF are complaining about a lack of choice. Most manufacturers weren't doing what Fuji was in including it in every model. Instead of Fuji inspiring anyone else, their concession to the mainstream is disappointing. There ISN'T an "EVF bandwagon". Quite the opposite. There are just users like me who wish somebody made the product we wanted without compromise.

In the case of Fuji they have slow AF and a crappy sensor. This isn't a place I will accept compromise.

People will buy this on price, despite the lacking feature. Not because of it.

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

@micahmedia - "The people complaining about a lack of EVF are complaining about a lack of choice."

Wow, the level of hypocrisy in your comment is astounding! LOL. Fuji *is* offering more choice in their line-up by offering a body without an EVF, which makes it more compact and less expensive, to go alongside its other models that already have VF's (and are, as a result, more expensive). So the *increase* in choice that Fuji now offers is: A) without VF and less expensive or B) with VF and more expensive.

As for Fuji "inspiring anyone else", that is the most ridiculous and naive business perspective. It is not Fuji's purpose or goal or responsibility to "inspire anyone else" when they make product decisions. They only have a responsibility to their own business and to their customers. And with this particular decision, the X-M1 will probably be their top-selling model and will attract a lot of buyers for whom a Fuji X-series body might have been out of reach.

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MrTaikitso
By MrTaikitso (10 months ago)

Not to troll, as know how lovely the Fujis are, but spec wise, this is still not as good as my similarly priced Sony NEX 5R + 16-50mm Power Zoom kit, that offers an identical lens to the Fuji zoom, plus 50fps video (important), touch screen that can be flipped forward, faster high speed still shooting (10fps), and correct me if I am wrong, but a larger sensor amongst other things.

The very reason I would move to Fuji was their twin tactile exposure controls, but here, they have removed them, bringing back the same usability issues that effect the mid to low end NEX cameras with their somewhat fiddly on screen menu system. (I only keep my NEX because the IQ and shot to shot speed is superb. As is the articulating display.)

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Raist3d
By Raist3d (10 months ago)

The sensor shouldn't be larger but about same. Most Sony Nex lenses are not all that good, except a select few. Sony is improving on that over time though.

Fuji doesn't have to envy the Nex IQ at all.

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (10 months ago)

This may not have the traditional controls, but it has two control dials that can likely be set up to control the same functions. That rear dial looks weird to me. I can't imagine using it. I guess I'll have to wait until I see one.

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zapatista
By zapatista (10 months ago)

The NEX16-50mm sucks for IQ...sucks bad. Fast accurate AF, dogcrap (and I mean blurry dogcrap) IQ. Sony doesn't have one...not one really good E mount zoom lens. The sensors are exactly the same size. Please actually attempt to read a little about the camera, or god forbid try one out before spouting total crap.

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (10 months ago)

This does not exist. It make little sense to have better screen than X-E1 and that slower zoom lens less sense as the other one isn't f/2.8 constant.

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starwolfy
By starwolfy (10 months ago)

Troll ON. I would rather buy a Samsung NX300 with a 30mm F2 pancake.

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spidermoon
By spidermoon (10 months ago)

In an ideal world, i buy a fujisung camera, fuji sensor with samsung pancake and sony price :)

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (10 months ago)

Troll ON ON. Why no love for 20mm pancake?

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (10 months ago)

Samsung prices are usually lower than Sony

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qwertyasdf
By qwertyasdf (10 months ago)

Like the fact that the new kit lens starts at 16mm, but disappointed the pancake is a f2.8 not f2

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qwertyasdf
By qwertyasdf (10 months ago)

bad news!
"he brown version will be available a bit later than the other two - August rather than July - and in some markets will be exclusive to certain retailers. "

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samhain
By samhain (10 months ago)

Sweet little entry level camera!
Sure it doesn't have the dedicated exposure dials & evf/hybrid viewfinder, but if it did, it wouldn't be an entry level camera(but I'm sure that wont stop people here from complaining about it).

This is a great way to get into the Fuji X system and its awesome lenses). Dare I say- this is exactly what Leica should've done with the X vario; make it with interchangeable lenses.

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RadPhoto
By RadPhoto (10 months ago)

Not for me but a good addition. I own X-E1!

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whtchocla7e
By whtchocla7e (10 months ago)

Once the retro rangefinder look goes out of style, what is going to be the next big trend?

Is the nineties boxy SLR form factor about to make a big comeback?

In my opinion, Samsung has a winner in their button-less camera. Supposedly they're already working on a touch-free unit. Samsung is way ahead of the curve at this point. Are the big boys of the camera world already losers in this race?

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JackM
By JackM (10 months ago)

"I bought a new camera, it's very advanced. You don't even need it." - Steven Wright

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samhain
By samhain (10 months ago)

Luckily there's cameras like these with classic, timeless style for us who like them and there's 'futuristic' cameras without buttons(and future models you don't even need to touch lol) for people like you.

I know one thing- I have way more people(especially women) take interest in my 'retro' looking cameras than any other cameras. When I shoot people on the street with my x100 & 'retro' looking film cameras, they smile. It gets a completely different response than modern bpc styled cameras. I hope the 'retro' look is here to stay.

*bpc= black plastic crap.

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marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

The original Leica (ur-Leica) was made in 1913, the Leica I in 1925, so for 100 years the rangefinder has existed so it's not likely a design that going to go out of style.

Re: Samsung and touch LCD, try operating a touch LCD in the winter out in the field with gloves on. Which is one reason why professional DSLRs have oversized physical buttons can be pressed quickly, with or with gloves and sometimes without even looking. Try that with the inherently fiddly touch LCD.

So no, the big boys aren't losers but understand that touch LCD cannot replace physical controls.

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Raist3d
By Raist3d (10 months ago)

The "retro" is not a fad out of style. Is an interface/usability that works for photographers. It's here to stay.

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

There are now different "styles" of cameras, as it should be. It's just like watches. Some people like classic-looking watches, while others like more trendy styles. I think this "retro" style or camera is like having a Rolex diver-style watch, like the Rolex Submariner, or the much less expensive but similar-looking Invicta Pro Diver (which I happen to own), with the classic rotating bezel. It's a look that never goes out of style.

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tommy leong
By tommy leong (10 months ago)

love at first sight !

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Trollshavethebestcandy
By Trollshavethebestcandy (10 months ago)

M43 size
APSC sensor
Good job.

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (10 months ago)

Tossed the EVF = Fuji fail

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

@micahmedia - actually, I predict that this is going to be Fuji's top-selling X-series camera. It's the most compact, most affordable, has a tilting screen, and has a more flexible control layout. Not everyone wants or needs an EVF, and countless millions of EVF-less digital cameras sold over the years certainly proves this. I definitely think this is a generational thing. The older generation likes sticking their eye through a peephole, while the younger generation prefers looking at large LCD screens.

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Olymore
By Olymore (10 months ago)

Until that younger generation gets into their forties and presbyopia starts kicking in. Then they need reading glasses or bi-focals to see detail on the screen in any light.

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JadedGamer
By JadedGamer (10 months ago)

@micahmedia, Fuji offers both a model with EVF (X-E1) and one without (X-M1). Are you against choice?

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peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

"M43 size
APSC sensor"

And APS-C-sized kit. Compare to Oly 14-42 II, or Pana 14-42PZ. Or even Sony 16-50.

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JmaverickPro
By JmaverickPro (10 months ago)

EVFs in compact cameras are ridiculously overrated.

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (9 months ago)

@T3: of course it'll sell! It's their cheapest model! And it'll probably be on a deep discount by xmas. Watch it fly off the shelves and half off! But that doesn't make it good gear.

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Digitall
By Digitall (10 months ago)

hummm...I think Fuji with this XM-1 model and lenses without aperture ring is giving a false step to the market with the typically Fuji customer that use interchangeable lenses in your bodies and practicing price of $ 500 for a 27mm pancake, will be difficult to see a customer of XM-1 to pay $ 500 for a pancake, not impossible, but rare. We will see the future of this model. I do not put too high expectations.

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Jon A T
By Jon A T (10 months ago)

I'm just wondering how comfortable or easy it will be to operate that rear control dial, being in a vertical orientation. Or will it interfere with the operation of the other control dial as in accidently moving (rotating) it when my big clumsy thumb tries to rotate it.

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Combatmedic870
By Combatmedic870 (10 months ago)

Well, Your not putting the camera up to your face. Think about how your hand is going to be. Its not going to be the way your thinking. I thought the same thing until i thought about it. It should work quite well..

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Absolutic
By Absolutic (10 months ago)

read in imaging-resource.com preview, a site i generally trust:

"Worryingly, we're led to believe that the Fuji X-M1's autofocus system will not be as fast as that in the X-E1. Hopefully that will turn out not to be the case"

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/fuji-x-m1/fuji-x-m1A.HTM

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JackM
By JackM (10 months ago)

Pentax Q has just been rendered obsolete.

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Silvarum
By Silvarum (10 months ago)

Have you seen it? Q is much smaller and lighter system, plus somewhat cheaper.

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Raist3d
By Raist3d (10 months ago)

As someone who has an X-E1 and a Pentax Q (original), I can tell you that's not quite the case. Ironically it's the photographers in the know that will get this and not the masses that both companies are in big part marketing to.

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (10 months ago)

Agreed. And the Pentax Q puts out a file format that many versions of Photoshop can open natively.

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spidermoon
By spidermoon (10 months ago)

Serious ? Those are two different camera. The Pentax Q is a high end compact, currently sold at 200euro with either the 8.5 f1.9 lens or the kit zoom. It produce very good result for a compact, is damn small and very well made (yes, i own one).
Fuji X-M1 is in the same league than nex, samsung or even µ4/3.

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peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

"Pentax Q has just been rendered obsolete."

It was ALWAYS obsolete. Pentax could have revived it with a specially made 1:1 f/2 macro (would be like 5.5:1 macro for FF = AWESOME) and a 50-150/2-2.8 zoom (like 260-825mm) - but they don't, so a simple superzoom P&S makes the whole system useless.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Decent price, bet that grip isn't comfortable though... needs to be deeper into the body a bit (wider) by about 1/2" from the looks of it- however, I'd need to hold it for a 100% sure opinion. No viewfinder/option I presume, that's fine since they have the X-E1 but would have been neat to see Fuji put a viewfinder on this one then every camera in the line up would have one.

Btw, that brown and silver one is SERIOUSLY sexy looking. Wow.

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Photomonkey
By Photomonkey (10 months ago)

Next year everyone will have a brown option.

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

"...bet that grip isn't comfortable though... needs to be deeper into the body a bit (wider) by about 1/2" from the looks of it..."

Then it would be the same size as its larger siblings, which would kind of defeat its purpose. Next, you'll say, "And it should also be a bit taller to accomodate a built-in viewfinder, too!" *Smack hand to forehead*

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Uh no, wider grip doesn't mean thicker, nor a wider camera... it wouldn't add anything to the size you'd notice other than being much more comfortable to the hand for all day shooting. Careful you're going to knock yourself silly with that hand.

Carl

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

Sure, cgarrard, making the camera 1/2" WIDER would NOT make the camera WIDER. LOL. In fact, making any camera WIDER never makes it WIDER. Changing the dimensions of a camera doesn't actually change the dimensions of a camera. And adding a viewfinder to this camera would NEVER alter its dimensions either, because viewfinders don't actually take up any physical space. Yes, they could have made the camera wider, AND added a viewfinder, and it would NOT have altered the camera's size, weight, dimensions, or cost in ANY way. And it would not, in any way, make it too similar to Fuji's other existing X-series models. Nope. So sayeth cgarrad. LOL.

*palm to forehead again*

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Um why don't you learn how to read better instead of focusing on becoming better at insulting? I specifically said the GRIP needed to be wider. Get closer to the screen and read slower next time, that should help you.

Hopefully you knocked yourself out this time.

Carl

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

cgarrad, I guess you'll have to get a job at Fuji and teach them how to design cameras. Because, clearly, they're doing it all wrong without your wise guidance.

My point is that Fuji made all these design decisions for a reason-- based on certain goals, constraints, limitations, etc-- and your recommended changes would essentially nullify all these reasons. But of course, armchair amateur product engineers on the internet always know better. And these amateur product engineers are lucky enough to live in a universe devoid of any kind of constraints or limitations, physical, financial, or otherwise.

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samhain
By samhain (10 months ago)

And you know it's not comfortable because you've actually held it?
That's pretty awesome that you get to handle cameras before they come out.

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Samhain, read again what I said above. No that will be too much effort for you, so I'll quote myself. This goes to both of you who are taking what I said either way too personally or way to serious, or both. That said, I've got a LOT of experience holding cameras so I'm pretty much sure what I'd like to hold or what I'd not like to hold, but you never completely know for sure till you do.

"however, I'd need to hold it for a 100% sure opinion."

That's what I said. And I said it because the grip and size looks very similar to the X20/10 which I've held extensively and did NOT enjoy holding. Since I have a LOT of experience reviewing and using cameras both personally and professionally I'm making my comment (preliminary guess) on both experience and insight- but still leaving the door open to be wrong.

Now if you still don't understand what I've written, I suggest you move on.

Carl

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peevee1
By peevee1 (10 months ago)

"hat brown and silver one is SERIOUSLY sexy looking. Wow."

It is AWFUL with a black lens. Have a look:
http://static.bhphoto.com/images/images345x345/984498.jpg

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cgarrard
By cgarrard (10 months ago)

Indeed it is. Looks like the pancake is offered in silver though? Silver lens looks great on it.

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (10 months ago)

The brown one will only look good if Fuji gives it a different finish. The plastic Fuji has been using seems tough, but it is hard and glossy. A softer, less shiny finish would be much more pleasant to touch and look at.

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mike kobal
By mike kobal (10 months ago)

if every ounce and inch counts, this would make the perfect back up body, just wish it would be offered as a kit with the pancake.

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coltsmild
By coltsmild (10 months ago)

It is offered with the the pancake. Retails for roughly 900USD.

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mike kobal
By mike kobal (10 months ago)

I wish! where did you get that info-and a link please.

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coltsmild
By coltsmild (10 months ago)

In Japan. I just read that this option is limited elsewhere.

http://tinyurl.com/q8k2fk5

[/edit] Apparently this link above is sold as a bundle with both lens! Not bad for this price!

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Richard Murdey
By Richard Murdey (10 months ago)

Funny how Fuji have managed to make this camera still look "retro" even when there is nothing retro about it at all. The EV compensation, shutter speed, and aperture dials are all gone. The control layout (D-pad + 4 flanking buttons) is now utterly conventional.

I mean, its a nice looking camera and all. I just feel its a bit of a sell-out. The idea with the X100 for example was not that it just looked retro, it was that the control surfaces were, too.

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

There are two control dials which control EV comp, aperture, and/or shutter speed. In aperture priority, that means that the top dial controls EV comp while the vertical dial controls aperture. (I shoot 95% of my images in aperture priority, so it'll suit me just fine.) In Manual mode, the top dial controls shutter speed while the vertical dial controls aperture. Simple! Maybe this doesn't perfectly fit your militantly rigid idea of "retro" controls, but for the rest of us it works just fine, thank you very much.

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limlh
By limlh (10 months ago)

At last, a company has produced a tiltable LCD only camera without making it look like a cheap P&S and without astronomical pricing. Good job.

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ThePhilips
By ThePhilips (10 months ago)

Because look of the camera is everything.

This posturing and nitpicking is actually quite ironical. And counterproductive. Two most robust and light metals - magnesium and titanium - both look and feel "cheap".

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (10 months ago)

There's something wrong with the comparable E-PL5? Similar retro styling, tilting screen, similar build quality. I do like the two Fuji control dials, an overdue feature (no, I don't consider rings around the button pad equivalent).

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radissimo
By radissimo (10 months ago)

Hopefully Fuji will succeed, but the strategy is WROOONG! Fuji is not Nikon who can develop some inferior camera ( 1 system) and sell a loads just because the name and market penetration.

This “me too” camera is not bringing anything new ,keeps Fuji styling (which is surely nice), but again is dead on arrival. Plus develop a small camera with big lens is NO NO as Panasonic and later Sony could do the pancake. Sorry Fuji,poor try!

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marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

Fujifilm wants a lower priced body in it's line-up and the X-M1 gives them exactly that. Their strategy is no different than Nikon or Canon offering different bodies at various price points that act as points of entry into their respective mounts. The X-M1 gets users in the door to X-Mount.

The Nikon 1 sells loads because, to borrow Apple's slogan: "it just works". Blazing fast menus, burst modes, and an AF system that's second to none. But Nikon had to go 1" both for size, and because they weren't about to cannibalize their bread and butter DSLR business. With Fujifilm there is nothing to cannibalize as X-Mount is the pièce de résistance. And every X mount camera sold gets the lens buying public through the door.

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Raist3d
By Raist3d (10 months ago)

What you mean it's not bringing anything new. It's bringing a rather kick ass set of lenses with a really good sensor in this price range with good ergonomics in a very small size. That reads as pretty good to me.

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (10 months ago)

It's bringing slow focusing lenses that only do manual by wire with a sensor that is only good for jpegs with comparable ergonomics and sacrificed an excellent EVF for a modest reduction in size.

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micahmedia
By micahmedia (10 months ago)

...it makes me want a R-D1 even more.

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straylightrun
By straylightrun (10 months ago)

Nice one Fuji! Good to see that the cheapest entry level Fujifilm body doesn't compromise on control and has 2 dials.

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DRNottage
By DRNottage (10 months ago)

No EVF. No sale.

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CanonKen
By CanonKen (10 months ago)

Hence the other products in their line...

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

You may not be aware of this, but Fuji does make other bodies with viewfinders. It's nice that Fuji had the sense to offer a less expensive, more compact body without the viewfinder for those who aren't so rigid-minded. I definitely don't think the lack of a viewfinder is going to hurt this camera at all. Excellent job, Fuji! What a drastic contrast to their former rival, Kodak.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (10 months ago)

CanonKen:

Okay, but sometimes cameras have both an EVF and a tilting screen, but not any of the other Fuji X mirrorless system cameras, (eg Sony A99 and Samsung NX20). So with this Fuji system it's become either or.

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samhain
By samhain (10 months ago)

@Howaboutraw- it's their first tilt screen model, I'm sure more will come. My guess is the xe-2.

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stealthhacker
By stealthhacker (10 months ago)

fuji may be good at retro design, but their lens&accesseries are quite expensive. and the body is bulkier than its competitors.

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CanonKen
By CanonKen (10 months ago)

Their lenses are also worth it.

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Photomonkey
By Photomonkey (10 months ago)

There are always uglier and poorer cameras to choose.

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samhain
By samhain (10 months ago)

@stealthhacker What would be this camera's competitor? Is their another camera out there this small with an aps-c sensor & tilt screen?

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (10 months ago)

samhain:

The Samsung NX300, has a tilting screen, dimensions: 4.8 x 2.5 x 1.6" (122.0 x 63.7 x 40.7mm).

Fuji XM-1, dimensions: 4.6 x 2.62 x 1.54" (117 x 67 x 39 mm).

The Samsung is a bit longer and the Fuji is a bit taller–both use APSC sensors.

The best of the Samsung lenses optically surpass even the good Fuji lenses. Sony also makes APSC sensored cameras with tilting screens.

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (10 months ago)

Sure there are. The Sony NEX-3N is smaller than this, with a much more compact kit lens. The NEX-5R is of similar size, thinner through the body, but with a bigger grip (a good thing). This is a typically compact mirrorless model. They are limited by the need for a rear screen, controls, and a grip as much as anything. Those plus a lens mount and you have a modern camera.

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MarkInSF
By MarkInSF (10 months ago)

Oh, and I looked it up. The NEX-5R is noticeably smaller at 4.37"x2.32"x1.54". And the 3N is even smaller, at 4.33"x2.44"x1.38", mostly because it has a small grip. Both are much smaller than the Fuji. Which is pretty average.

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MikeNeufeld30
By MikeNeufeld30 (10 months ago)

Pricing? Or did I miss it.

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DPReview Staff
By DPReview Staff (10 months ago)

Yep, you missed it. From the specs, above: $699 body only, $799/£679.99 with 16-50mm

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2eyesee
By 2eyesee (10 months ago)

From the DPR Hands-on Preview:

"The X-M1 will be sold as a kit with the XC 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OIS in all regions, with an RRP of £679 / $799.95. In the US, the X-M1 will be also be available body-only for $699.95."

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Zerblatt
By Zerblatt (10 months ago)

Good job Fuji, compare this with specs and price of Leica X Vario

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